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Signs in one state about exits, or state highways for another state; BGS

Started by ethanhopkin14, July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM

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ethanhopkin14

     I live in Texas, which isn't very helpful for what is on the other side of the state line.  When I think of signage on BGSes  near state lines for exits in another state, I think of Arizona's signage in Yuma on Interstate 8 for California State Highway 186, and the previous sign for Business Loop 8 that is actually made to CalTrans specs. 

https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.724371,-114.614709&spn=0.000986,0.001525&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=32.724288,-114.614649&panoid=6LLnSj4EEpwnPyBO6mvnNA&cbp=12,328.38,,1,-1.72

Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?


Brandon

Indiana for Illinois along westbound I-80/94, Borman Expressway:



The sign is all Indiana specs.

Missouri for Illinois, I-270 eastbound:

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agentsteel53

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
     I live in Texas, which isn't very helpful for what is on the other side of the state line.  When I think of signage on BGSes  near state lines for exits in another state, I think of Arizona's signage in Yuma on Interstate 8 for California State Highway 186, and the previous sign for Business Loop 8 that is actually made to CalTrans specs. 

https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.724371,-114.614709&spn=0.000986,0.001525&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=32.724288,-114.614649&panoid=6LLnSj4EEpwnPyBO6mvnNA&cbp=12,328.38,,1,-1.72

Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?

not weird, but in the other direction - California has clearly Arizona-made signs for Exit 1 on I-8 eastbound.

also, "to AZ-95" is signed through Needles, thanks to Arizona.
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machias

Taken in 2000, here's a PennDOT sign for NYS Thruway Exit 61.  The sign has been replaced since this photo, twice actually.  There is currently a Clearview sign in its place.


ethanhopkin14

Another one I thought of is eastbound Interstate 10 near the New Mexico/Texas state line, in New Mexico for Exit 0, which is FM 1905, signed in New Mexico and to TxDOT standards:

https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.005178,-106.582894&spn=0.001406,0.00305&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=32.005366,-106.582895&panoid=kXsGLUVRjDZ0jdD1wtfKwQ&cbp=12,214.04,,0,-0.81

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Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?

Maryland and Virginia do a generally decent job of informing motorists of destinations and interchanges on the other side of the border.  Especially on I-95 approaching the Wilson Bridge, but also on I-495 approaching the American Legion Bridge.

Even approaching the border on U.S. 13 (the only place where a major highway crosses the Md./Va. border that does not include a bridge over the Potomac River) the signs are pretty good.

Virginia's mileage signs on U.S. 301 northbound frequently include Baltimore as a destination, even though it has been many years since 301 actually was routed to Charm City. There are at least four or five Maryland (MdTA) signs on Virginia soil approaching the Gov. Harry Nice Bridge on 301 northbound.
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Quote from: cpzilliacus on July 16, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?

Maryland and Virginia do a generally decent job of informing motorists of destinations and interchanges on the other side of the border.  Especially on I-95 approaching the Wilson Bridge, but also on I-495 approaching the American Legion Bridge.

Even approaching the border on U.S. 13 (the only place where a major highway crosses the Md./Va. border that does not include a bridge over the Potomac River) the signs are pretty good.

Virginia's mileage signs on U.S. 301 northbound frequently include Baltimore as a destination, even though it has been many years since 301 actually was routed to Charm City. There are at least four or five Maryland (MdTA) signs on Virginia soil approaching the Gov. Harry Nice Bridge on 301 northbound.





Maryland's advance signage for the Wilson Bridge at one point had the wrong route number (and shield) for Van Dorn Street in Virginia. The erroneous shield was a correct-looking Virginia primary route shield. It's since been fixed with the correct number in a secondary route circle.

I know this one has been controversial here:

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Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 16, 2013, 07:18:37 PMnot weird, but in the other direction - California has clearly Arizona-made signs for Exit 1 on I-8 eastbound.

This sign on California I-8 eastbound just outside the Exit 172 advance guide signing sequence is also Arizona-made:

Yuma
NEXT 6 EXITS


The sign message is typical of Arizona DOT and the sign itself is erected on California soil using a standard Arizona DOT extruded aluminum substrate with green retroreflective sheeting but mounted California-style to wooden posts.  (Inside Arizona, ground-mounted freeway guide signs are typically supported on breakaway steel posts.)  The legend is still Series E Modified in button copy since the sign was erected in 1998 before ADOT abandoned button copy, and was not replaced as part of the later Clearview signing upgrades.
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mukade

Quote from: Brandon on July 16, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
Indiana for Illinois along westbound I-80/94, Borman Expressway:



The sign is all Indiana specs.

Also, INDOT understands what direction I-94 goes when it gets to the Bishop Ford.

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Oregon Exit in Washington (WSDOT Spec)

Washington Exit in Oregon (WSDOT Spec; ODOT mounting design)

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Glenn Jackson Bridge (I-205; WA/OR)
Washington Exit in Oregon (ODOT Spec)

Washington Exit in Washington (ODOT Spec; the entire bridge's signing and street lighting is done by ODOT).


Oregon Exit in Washington (ODOT Spec)

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Not quite a BGS, but here's an ODOT VMS (and an ODOT gantry!!) about 2 miles in CalTrans territory.
http://goo.gl/maps/sTIkD

CalTrans tends to be consistent with their gantries and tubular varients.

Take the road less traveled.

tdindy88

And to complement INDOT's Indiana-style Illinois highway shield on the Borman, IDOT has an Illinois-style Indiana highway shield on the Kingery to the west of the state line.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.577692,-87.532185&spn=0.00451,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.577689,-87.534131&panoid=Av0alAwFCw7vtn9YKFEcDQ&cbp=12,88.41,,0,-3.62

Revive 755

I don't think it is really that uncommon to have signs for an upcoming exit in an adjoining state, but anways:

* One on I-72 in Missouri for IL 106:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.718652,-91.362822&spn=0.001756,0.004128&t=m&layer=c&cbll=39.718588,-91.363042&panoid=Xob6-chgd-kR5B8anD9aBA&cbp=12,79.87,,0,3.45&z=19

* One on I-72 in Illinois for MO 79:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.724072,-91.347134&spn=0.007022,0.016512&t=m&layer=c&cbll=39.72399,-91.347381&panoid=TGT7Z3qehPoO3ZQ9spvnIQ&cbp=12,257.86,,0,7.84&z=17

* One on EB I-255 in Missouri for IL 3:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.49172,-90.293422&spn=0.005053,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=38.49172,-90.293422&panoid=NK6SN09VWpqXQbxRUDL5iA&cbp=12,104.18,,0,-1.46&z=18

* I'm pretty sure there will be some for the new I-70 Mississippi crossing in St. Louis.

* WB I-80 in Illinois for the exit to US 67 in Iowa:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.574714,-90.361562&spn=0.027321,0.066047&t=m&layer=c&cbll=41.574959,-90.361698&panoid=UugSuIJ5jhTlGdk7D5haqw&cbp=12,0.06,,0,0&z=15

* A couple on EB I-94 in Wisconsin for the first two exits into Illinois (may have been replaced; can't recall the exact sign sequence at this moment)
https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.504392,-87.951623&spn=0.003366,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=42.504392,-87.951623&panoid=RG7D9bDeOheJIetmW2QPaw&cbp=12,184.2,,0,-6.84&z=18

https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.533366,-87.95231&spn=0.004757,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=42.533433,-87.951962&panoid=FF_Jtts7RcmrPq9psW-RQA&cbp=12,212.9,,1,-4.15&z=18

* One on EB I-70 near the Indiana border:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=marshall,+il&hl=en&ll=39.429232,-87.567286&spn=0.028077,0.066047&sll=41.229217,-95.92206&sspn=0.054933,0.132093&hnear=Marshall,+Clark,+Illinois&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.429232,-87.567286&panoid=xaJcuKT-AGvNZbWlYOb0xw&cbp=12,97.49,,0,-5.67

mukade

Quote from: tdindy88 on July 16, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
And to complement INDOT's Indiana-style Illinois highway shield on the Borman, IDOT has an Illinois-style Indiana highway shield on the Kingery to the west of the state line.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.577692,-87.532185&spn=0.00451,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.577689,-87.534131&panoid=Av0alAwFCw7vtn9YKFEcDQ&cbp=12,88.41,,0,-3.62


Once across the border in Indiana, the state highway marker for SR 152 is still Illinois-style. When the Kingery/Borman was rebuilt, IDOT managed the project up to Calumet Ave. in Indiana.

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NWI_Irish96

I-65 in Jeffersonville has a sign for the I-64/71 exit in Louisville. 
I-64 in New Albany has a sign for the I-264 exit in Louisville.

Coming the reverse direction, there are signs for the Indiana exits on the bridges, but I have no idea if those signs are Indiana's or Kentucky's. 
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tdindy88

Quote from: cabiness42 on July 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I-65 in Jeffersonville has a sign for the I-64/71 exit in Louisville. 
I-64 in New Albany has a sign for the I-264 exit in Louisville.

Coming the reverse direction, there are signs for the Indiana exits on the bridges, but I have no idea if those signs are Indiana's or Kentucky's. 

The signs on the I-65 bridge are Kentucky's, you can tell because they are in Clearview. The signs on the I-64 bridge are Indiana's, you can tell because they are NOT in Clearview.

PHLBOS

Quote from: NE2 on July 16, 2013, 07:38:04 PM
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-84/e.html
I'm a tad surprised that there isn't a pic of a NYSDOT spec'd BGS for Saw Mill Road (CT Exit 1, 1-mile notice) on that page.  The exit is located just east of the NY-CT border.  There's also a NYSDOT spec'd BGS listing mileages to Danbury and Hartford.

Along I-95 in both directions at the MA-NH border; there are NHDOT spec'd BGS for MA 286 (Exit 60) and I-495 (Exit 59) interchanges and MassDOT spec'd BGS for the NH 107 (Exit 1) interchange.

Similarly along I-95 southbound just before the RI-MA border there are MassDPW (mid-to-late 70s vintage) spec'd BGS for RI Exits 30 (Roosevelt Ave.) & 29 (RI 114). 
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ri/i-95/2.html

Once upon a time, there used to be a RIDOT spec'd BGS for the 2-mile notice of MA Exits 2A-B for MA 1A (though RIDOT uses a US 1A shield) that simply listed Newport Ave. as its control destination.

In PA along I-95 southbound near the PA-DE border, who can forget the PennDOT spec'd diagrametric BGS for I-495 (DE Exit 11).
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/i-95/s.html

Conversely, in DE along I-95 northbound, there's a mileage BGS listing for PA 452 (w/Keystone shield).

I-287 just south of I-87/NY Thruway near the the NY-NJ state line: Diagrametric BGS' in both NYSDOT & NJDOT spec's.
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-287/s1.html

Along I-287 north approaching the same area (note: the NYSDOT spec'd New England USE 87 NORTH TO 84 EAST BGS is actually located in NJ).

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-287/n2.html
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: tdindy88 on July 17, 2013, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I-65 in Jeffersonville has a sign for the I-64/71 exit in Louisville. 
I-64 in New Albany has a sign for the I-264 exit in Louisville.

Coming the reverse direction, there are signs for the Indiana exits on the bridges, but I have no idea if those signs are Indiana's or Kentucky's. 

The signs on the I-65 bridge are Kentucky's, you can tell because they are in Clearview. The signs on the I-64 bridge are Indiana's, you can tell because they are NOT in Clearview.

Thanks.  Font is not something I pay particularly close attention to.  As long as it isn't Comic Sans, I don't really care.
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ethanhopkin14

How could I forget in El Paso, there are several trailblazers for Mexico Fedral Highway 45, but they look like Texas state highway shields with "MEXICO" written where "TEXAS" would be.

Henry

Quote from: mukade on July 16, 2013, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 16, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
Indiana for Illinois along westbound I-80/94, Borman Expressway:



The sign is all Indiana specs.

Also, INDOT understands what direction I-94 goes when it gets to the Bishop Ford.
Probably because it would be weird to see that sign read IL 394 SOUTH and I-94 WEST.
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A couple more from OR/WA:

I-205 North (Glenn Jackson Bridge) distance sign with Oregon's take on a SR-14 shield - http://goo.gl/maps/7poIO

I-5 North (Interstate Bridge), looks like a hybrid of ODOT/WSDOT specs, right at the state line - http://goo.gl/maps/9wO5k

I-82 East, OR exit on the WA side, WSDOT specs. I don't know why a "TO" is included on there when that exit does put you directly on US-395 and US-730 - http://goo.gl/maps/oChsY

ID/OR:
US-95 Spur (not really a BGS, but ODOT specs in ID) - http://goo.gl/maps/XR13v

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One that stands out in my memory from my childhood is the signage on westbound I-64 in West Virginia approaching the Kentucky state line. Advance exit signage for the US 23 exit also included a KY 3 route marker, but once you got into Kentucky, there was no signage for KY 3.


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