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Started by Poiponen13, February 24, 2023, 06:56:47 AM

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Poiponen13

Could hurricane names (both Atlantic and Pacific) be changed? At least it would be interesting if there were several lists used in each season. Or, the lists would be continued from where previous seasons left off and not start again from A.


Max Rockatansky

Hurrican Sault Sainte John Madden and Booger Queen, I think this is needed.

Poiponen13

Official names for winter storms in US.

hotdogPi

Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 24, 2023, 08:44:26 AM
Official names for winter storms in US.

That's been rejected because you can't tell when one ends and the next starts.
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US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 10:53:07 AM
They shouldn't have names at all. Just A,B,C...etc, because you know what if the biggest Cat 5 one ends up getting a male name? Isn't that sexist? What if all the male names end up being 3d and 4s and the female names 1s and 2s? Just Letters would eliminate that form of bigotry.

How are alternating male and female names for non-living weather entities a form of bigotry?

hotdogPi

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 24, 2023, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 10:53:07 AM
They shouldn't have names at all. Just A,B,C...etc, because you know what if the biggest Cat 5 one ends up getting a male name? Isn't that sexist? What if all the male names end up being 3d and 4s and the female names 1s and 2s? Just Letters would eliminate that form of bigotry.

How are alternating male and female names for non-living weather entities a form of bigotry?

It's not sexist, but I could see the argument (that I haven't seen anyone make and that I disagree with anyway) that it's prejudiced against rarer starting letters (assuming having it match your name is a bad thing), since it's starting to get a bit hard to find new names starting with I after several retirements since the obvious ones have been used.
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US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

SectorZ

Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 24, 2023, 08:44:26 AM
Official names for winter storms in US.

The private sector in the USA already covers that. It's what the "weather" channel is there for to handle.

SectorZ

Quote from: 1 on February 24, 2023, 11:01:15 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 24, 2023, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 10:53:07 AM
They shouldn't have names at all. Just A,B,C...etc, because you know what if the biggest Cat 5 one ends up getting a male name? Isn't that sexist? What if all the male names end up being 3d and 4s and the female names 1s and 2s? Just Letters would eliminate that form of bigotry.

How are alternating male and female names for non-living weather entities a form of bigotry?

It's not sexist, but I could see the argument (that I haven't seen anyone make and that I disagree with anyway) that it's prejudiced against rarer starting letters (assuming having it match your name is a bad thing), since it's starting to get a bit hard to find new names starting with I after several retirements since the obvious ones have been used.

The funny thing about the I names as they've gotten more common thru the retirements. The first two retired were Ione and Inez. I've never heard of someone with those first names, and Inez is much more common as a last name (like the Alice in Chains/Ozzy Osbourne bassist).

My C-namesake is always a fart in a windstorm every six years. Your name on the other hand got retired long ago after being one of the worst hurricanes ever.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 02:36:33 PM
BTW, that was sarcasm  :-D
Hopefully your entire forum activity is sarcasm
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 24, 2023, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 02:36:33 PM
BTW, that was sarcasm  :-D
Hopefully your entire forum activity is sarcasm

No, absolutely not. I strained my eyes making those interstate plans yesterday
That's a lot of effort to put it for everyone to just laugh at them.
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MultiMillionMiler

Shouldn't that prove I'm not trying to troll? I wouldn't waste my effort like that and there are easier ways I could have made those maps funny. But I took the time to actually trace out the exact routes the highways would run along, every curve, every change in direction..etc (to be brutally honest even Fritz's maps weren't as topographicaly accurate). With the exception of I-80 in SF, I don't bulldoze through buildings and put 10 numbers on one road just so every single number stretches across the country.

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 24, 2023, 03:50:39 PM
Alan360
Barf
Crash_It (who is also Barf)
MultiMillionMiler
Poiponen13
Don't forget about Dzlasbe or whatever. And Ethanman.
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GaryV

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 03:47:13 PM
every curve, every change in direction
What's the speed limit on those curves?

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 04:24:06 PM
Depending on the sharpness, either 67 mph, 75 mph, or 83 mph, with speed ticket cameras that trigger at the next prime number.
75 isn't a prime number.
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MultiMillionMiler

The speed cameras would ticket at the next prime number, the speed limits don't have to be prime, 75 is too nice and even a benchmark to resist, and 67 and 83 are both prime while evenly spaced from 75. And Ethanman's VA I-366 should have an 83 mph speed limit, not 85.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 04:29:12 PM
The speed cameras would ticket at the next prime number, the speed limits don't have to be prime, 75 is too nice and even a benchmark to resist, and 67 and 83 are both prime while evenly spaced from 75. And Ethanman's VA I-366 should have an 83 mph speed limit, not 85.
What's so special about prime numbers? And what does this have to do with weather or hurricanes?
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jeffandnicole

This thread became a 157 mph Category 5 Shitshow.

MultiMillionMiler

While we're on the topic of hurricanes, the category division wind speed thresholds are laughable. You go from 75 to 95 mph winds, the same category, but going from 110 to 130 mph winds is a two category difference. And where the hell did they get 157 from?

I say, the categories should be as follows:

Tropical Storm: 50 mph sustained winds
Cat 1: 75 mph sustained winds
Cat 2: 100 mph sustained winds
Cat 3: 125 mph sustained winds
Cat 4: 150 mph sustained winds
Cat 5: 175 mph sustained winds
Hypothetical Cat 6: 200+ mph winds

And sustained should mean winds for a minimum of 10 minutes at that speed, not 1 minute.

kphoger

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 24, 2023, 04:36:52 PM
What's so special about prime numbers?

They're ridiculous?

Speed limits should match numbers that are actually on people's speedometers–or at least line up with the tick marks in between.

Also, compare the mental math involved:

Scenario 1:
90 miles to go, speed limit 75 mph
90 ÷ 75 = 1.2
1.2 x 60 = 60 + (0.2)x(60)
60 + 12 = 72 minutes to go

Scenario 2:
90 miles to go, speed limit 73 mph
90 ÷ 73 = ummmmmmm.............
I give up.

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 24, 2023, 04:36:52 PM
And what does this have to do with weather or hurricanes?

Nothing, of course.
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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

MultiMillionMiler

Or you could just go 90 mph, 1 hour exactly.

CoreySamson

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 04:47:30 PM
While we're on the topic of hurricanes, the category division wind speed thresholds are laughable. You go from 75 to 95 mph winds, the same category, but going from 110 to 130 mph winds is a two category difference. And where the hell did they get 157 from?

I say, the categories should be as follows:

Tropical Storm: 50 mph sustained winds
Cat 1: 75 mph sustained winds
Cat 2: 100 mph sustained winds
Cat 3: 125 mph sustained winds
Cat 4: 150 mph sustained winds
Cat 5: 175 mph sustained winds
Hypothetical Cat 6: 200+ mph winds

And sustained should mean winds for a minimum of 10 minutes at that speed, not 1 minute.
Once upon a time, I questioned this too. I believe the Saffir-Simpson scale doesn't scale to wind speed per se, but instead the amount of damage the winds in that category do. The difference in destructive power between 110 and 130 mph is a lot higher than the difference between 75 and 95.

And in other parts of the world, they do classify hurricanes by their 10-minute sustained winds. I personally think 1 minute is fine for measuring them though.
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MultiMillionMiler

That's interesting, I always thought that once you crossed 80-90 mph winds, that's when the real risk of having your car pushed off the road/trees toppling/roof starting to peel off risk begins.

hotdogPi

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 05:34:19 PM
trees toppling

30 mph. I would even say it's possible at 25 mph sustained.
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Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

jeffandnicole

Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 24, 2023, 04:39:02 PM
This thread became a 157 mph Category 5 Shitshow.

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 24, 2023, 04:47:30 PM
While we're on the topic of hurricanes, the category division wind speed thresholds are laughable. You go from 75 to 95 mph winds, the same category, but going from 110 to 130 mph winds is a two category difference. And where the hell did they get 157 from?

MMM. Very disappointed in you. I literally lobbed this one to you and you completely whiffed at what I, and the NWS, did there.



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