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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #175 on: January 12, 2023, 09:46:53 PM »

There is a very nice video of drone footage from the Greensboro News & Record that can be seen here -- https://greensboro.com/news/local/north-elm-street-traffic-can-use-new-ramp-to-access-i-840-on-friday/article_e091bca6-9267-11ed-bb45-e373a99e42ab.html
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #176 on: January 20, 2023, 09:59:00 PM »

The opening of the Greensboro Loop is still scheduled for Monday, 1/23. A newly released video by Heliflyer shows the road apparently set to open with most signage in place. This includes a I-785 South/I-840 East pull through approaching the US 29 exit seen in this still from the video:


I was hoping for Durham instead of Raleigh, but at least that appears on signage at the I-40/I-85 exit.

To view the video yourself, go to: https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/futloop.html#videos

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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #177 on: January 21, 2023, 12:47:05 PM »

The opening of the Greensboro Loop is still scheduled for Monday, 1/23. A newly released video by Heliflyer shows the road apparently set to open with most signage in place. This includes a I-785 South/I-840 East pull through approaching the US 29 exit seen in this still from the video:

File this under "Jumped the gun":  I need to go to downtown Greensboro sometime in the near future, so I checked out the location.  Ducky is back to using AppleMaps and they were showing the entire Greensboro Urban Loop completed as of yesterday afternoon.  I highly suspect that AppleMaps has been watching the GPS data from onboard the contractor vehicles (and perhaps NCDOT vehicles) as they make their way around testing the ride on the unopened freeway.  Anyhow, I decided to wait until next week and possibly clinch the Loop (as well as the one tiny extension of I-73 to the north).
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #179 on: January 23, 2023, 03:59:34 PM »

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You'll be able to drive the 49-mile loop around the Gate City and it should be roughly a 20-minute commute.
Wow! One would have to travel approximately 147 mph to make 49 miles in 20 minutes.

The loop is 39 miles long (I-840, I-85, I-73) and would take approximately 33 minutes to travel at the posted 70 mph speed limit (assuming the last 65 mph zone between US-29 and I-85/I-40 east is increased).
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #181 on: January 23, 2023, 06:15:38 PM »

I am so glad the Loop is finally complete! NCDOT still have a couple of months to put up finishing touches (changing signages, adding new signages, and etc.) which should be completed by Spring 2023. And yes, that includes removing Business I-85 and US 70 shields and rerouting US 70 to Wendover Ave, follow NC 68 through High Point towards Thomasville and US 29 (Business I-85 shields will be removed along that road as well)
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #182 on: January 23, 2023, 06:22:20 PM »

It's open!

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/greensboro-urban-loop-opens/83-4630dee1-6d41-408c-aba1-1ef2a536251e

NCDOT press release. See if you spot the same mistake I saw...

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/01-23-23-greensboro-urban-loop-final-section-opens.aspx
Two of them.

The first being the I-840 designation extending to I-85, and the second being that the loop is 49 miles long. Where does that number come from?
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #183 on: January 23, 2023, 07:58:28 PM »

Google Maps hasn't been fully updated to show the completed Interstate 840 yet: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1466422,-79.7672615,3703m/data=!3m1!1e3. Since it only opened today, that's not surprising. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long until Google Maps acknowledges the completed Greensboro Urban Loop.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #184 on: January 23, 2023, 09:17:10 PM »

It's open!

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/greensboro-urban-loop-opens/83-4630dee1-6d41-408c-aba1-1ef2a536251e

NCDOT press release. See if you spot the same mistake I saw...

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/01-23-23-greensboro-urban-loop-final-section-opens.aspx
Two of them.

The first being the I-840 designation extending to I-85, and the second being that the loop is 49 miles long. Where does that number come from?

Both of them are errors from them. It happens, but still embarrassing. The Loop is actually 39 miles. I think what they meant is that the interchanges with the Loop added to the construction (I am pretty sure interchanges does NOT count towards the total mileage....) so yes, both are errors by them.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #185 on: January 23, 2023, 09:59:38 PM »

Google Maps hasn't been fully updated to show the completed Interstate 840 yet: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1466422,-79.7672615,3703m/data=!3m1!1e3. Since it only opened today, that's not surprising. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long until Google Maps acknowledges the completed Greensboro Urban Loop.

Waze has it up already
https://www.waze.com/en/live-map/directions?latlng=36.14286537528351%2C-79.78400230407716

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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #186 on: January 23, 2023, 10:07:28 PM »

It's open!

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/greensboro-urban-loop-opens/83-4630dee1-6d41-408c-aba1-1ef2a536251e

NCDOT press release. See if you spot the same mistake I saw...

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/01-23-23-greensboro-urban-loop-final-section-opens.aspx
Two of them.

The first being the I-840 designation extending to I-85, and the second being that the loop is 49 miles long. Where does that number come from?

Both of them are errors from them. It happens, but still embarrassing. The Loop is actually 39 miles. I think what they meant is that the interchanges with the Loop added to the construction (I am pretty sure interchanges does NOT count towards the total mileage....) so yes, both are errors by them.
Mistakes do happen. The problem is that if NCDOT makes them in a press release they tend to be repeated over and over again by all the media outlets that get the release. Seeming all the articles I saw on the Greensboro area TV station and publication websites repeat the error about the mileage. Even if NCDOT fixes the error later, this is usually not picked up by the media who have moved on to the next big story. Therefore it should be the goal of NCDOT, or any public agency for that matter, to double check the information they distribute to the pubic for accuracy before sending it out. Of course, it may be of some help if the media did their own checking about the facts given them, instead of just repeating what they get. Do you think we will see an edit to today's press release to correct the 2 errors?

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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #187 on: January 23, 2023, 10:35:24 PM »

It will be interesting to hear/see when they plan on the future interchanges that are still to be constructed.

E. Cone Blvd extension
Lewiston Rd extension to Fleming Rd.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #188 on: January 24, 2023, 01:22:17 AM »

It's open!

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/greensboro-urban-loop-opens/83-4630dee1-6d41-408c-aba1-1ef2a536251e

NCDOT press release. See if you spot the same mistake I saw...

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/01-23-23-greensboro-urban-loop-final-section-opens.aspx
Two of them.

The first being the I-840 designation extending to I-85, and the second being that the loop is 49 miles long. Where does that number come from?

Both of them are errors from them. It happens, but still embarrassing. The Loop is actually 39 miles. I think what they meant is that the interchanges with the Loop added to the construction (I am pretty sure interchanges does NOT count towards the total mileage....) so yes, both are errors by them.
Mistakes do happen. The problem is that if NCDOT makes them in a press release they tend to be repeated over and over again by all the media outlets that get the release. Seeming all the articles I saw on the Greensboro area TV station and publication websites repeat the error about the mileage. Even if NCDOT fixes the error later, this is usually not picked up by the media who have moved on to the next big story. Therefore it should be the goal of NCDOT, or any public agency for that matter, to double check the information they distribute to the pubic for accuracy before sending it out. Of course, it may be of some help if the media did their own checking about the facts given them, instead of just repeating what they get. Do you think we will see an edit to today's press release to correct the 2 errors?
I still want to know where the idea of traveling 49 miles of loop in 20 minutes came from… does no one use any common sense to see, unless you travel triple digits, is legally impossible?
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #189 on: January 24, 2023, 09:01:24 AM »

It's open!

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/greensboro-urban-loop-opens/83-4630dee1-6d41-408c-aba1-1ef2a536251e

NCDOT press release. See if you spot the same mistake I saw...

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2023/01-23-23-greensboro-urban-loop-final-section-opens.aspx
Two of them.

The first being the I-840 designation extending to I-85, and the second being that the loop is 49 miles long. Where does that number come from?

Both of them are errors from them. It happens, but still embarrassing. The Loop is actually 39 miles. I think what they meant is that the interchanges with the Loop added to the construction (I am pretty sure interchanges does NOT count towards the total mileage....) so yes, both are errors by them.
Mistakes do happen. The problem is that if NCDOT makes them in a press release they tend to be repeated over and over again by all the media outlets that get the release. Seeming all the articles I saw on the Greensboro area TV station and publication websites repeat the error about the mileage. Even if NCDOT fixes the error later, this is usually not picked up by the media who have moved on to the next big story. Therefore it should be the goal of NCDOT, or any public agency for that matter, to double check the information they distribute to the pubic for accuracy before sending it out. Of course, it may be of some help if the media did their own checking about the facts given them, instead of just repeating what they get. Do you think we will see an edit to today's press release to correct the 2 errors?
I still want to know where the idea of traveling 49 miles of loop in 20 minutes came from… does no one use any common sense to see, unless you travel triple digits, is legally impossible?

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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #190 on: January 24, 2023, 12:58:03 PM »

On another forum, someone posted that the loop is open and he said it's 39 miles. I questioned that (and made it clear I wasn't questioning him but rather was questioning NCDOT's press release) and I offered the Google Maps link below showing that the already-open portion was about 35.3 miles around. Using surface streets to connect between either end shows a distance of just over five miles, so concluding that the new portion is four miles is reasonable. That, in turn, means a total distance of about 39 miles.

His response? "49 is the total length of the loop around the city."  :banghead:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.1431352,-79.7358381/36.1392219,-79.8045848/@36.0315674,-79.7932681,12.13z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-79.759039!2d35.9971862!3s0x885317f5834d5a49:0xded765cf9dd75b71!1m0!3e0
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #191 on: January 24, 2023, 09:05:54 PM »

It will be interesting to hear/see when they plan on the future interchanges that are still to be constructed.

E. Cone Blvd extension
Lewiston Rd extension to Fleming Rd.

Lewiston Rd extension with the interchange with I-840 has been dropped from the plans a while ago. Now the only one interchange that is proposed is the E. Cone Blvd extension.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #192 on: January 24, 2023, 09:18:31 PM »

It will be interesting to hear/see when they plan on the future interchanges that are still to be constructed.

E. Cone Blvd extension
Lewiston Rd extension to Fleming Rd.

Lewiston Rd extension with the interchange with I-840 has been dropped from the plans a while ago. Now the only one interchange that is proposed is the E. Cone Blvd extension.

Thank you for the information! The east side of Greensboro could use any and all catalysts that it can get, I hope it happens sooner rather than later.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #193 on: January 25, 2023, 07:37:42 PM »

Drove and clinched the entire Greensboro Urban Loop today. I would tell you that I had so much fun! It only took me about 30 to 35 minutes to drive the entire loop (traffic wasn't heavy that time).

The flyover from I-840 East to US 29 North (Future I-785) has a 45 mph curve advisory sign. The curve on the flyover is a little bit tight. And it feels like you are on the high flyover because at that area, US 29/Future I-785 is hilly therefore you can almost see the entire interchange from the top of the flyover. (and no, I did not stop on the top of the flyover, despite having a shoulder there, LOL)
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #194 on: January 25, 2023, 07:42:13 PM »

Google Maps hasn't been fully updated to show the completed Interstate 840 yet: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1466422,-79.7672615,3703m/data=!3m1!1e3. Since it only opened today, that's not surprising. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long until Google Maps acknowledges the completed Greensboro Urban Loop.

Google Maps is showing it now.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #195 on: January 25, 2023, 07:42:30 PM »

It will be interesting to hear/see when they plan on the future interchanges that are still to be constructed.

E. Cone Blvd extension
Lewiston Rd extension to Fleming Rd.

Lewiston Rd extension with the interchange with I-840 has been dropped from the plans a while ago. Now the only one interchange that is proposed is the E. Cone Blvd extension.

Thank you for the information! The east side of Greensboro could use any and all catalysts that it can get, I hope it happens sooner rather than later.


Yeah, east side of the city could use more catalysts. I knew of the 1/2 mile extension of E. Cone Blvd that was finished went from 16th St to Nealtown Rd. But I have not heard of anything of when NCDOT will extend it to meet I-840/I-785 Loop to the east. The bridge that I-840/I-785 crossed at milemarker 16 (around where the proposed interchange will be) that Hines Chapel Rd went under, is wide enough in preparation for the Cone Blvd. Extension.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #196 on: January 25, 2023, 07:43:19 PM »

Drove and clinched the entire Greensboro Urban Loop today. I would tell you that I had so much fun! It only took me about 30 to 35 minutes to drive the entire loop (traffic wasn't heavy that time).

The flyover from I-840 East to US 29 North (Future I-785) has a 45 mph curve advisory sign. The curve on the flyover is a little bit tight. And it feels like you are on the high flyover because at that area, US 29/Future I-785 is hilly therefore you can almost see the entire interchange from the top of the flyover. (and no, I did not stop on the top of the flyover, despite having a shoulder there, LOL)

Did they add a control city for I-840 East now that it's finished?
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2023, 08:37:33 PM »

Google Maps hasn't been fully updated to show the completed Interstate 840 yet: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1466422,-79.7672615,3703m/data=!3m1!1e3. Since it only opened today, that's not surprising. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long until Google Maps acknowledges the completed Greensboro Urban Loop.

Google Maps is showing it now.
But it does not show 840 as concurrent with the 785 section
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #198 on: January 25, 2023, 09:02:00 PM »

Drove and clinched the entire Greensboro Urban Loop today. I would tell you that I had so much fun! It only took me about 30 to 35 minutes to drive the entire loop (traffic wasn't heavy that time).

The flyover from I-840 East to US 29 North (Future I-785) has a 45 mph curve advisory sign. The curve on the flyover is a little bit tight. And it feels like you are on the high flyover because at that area, US 29/Future I-785 is hilly therefore you can almost see the entire interchange from the top of the flyover. (and no, I did not stop on the top of the flyover, despite having a shoulder there, LOL)

Did they add a control city for I-840 East now that it's finished?

Yes. Raleigh from some signages that I have already seen. Not every signage is up yet, so the control city for I-840 East is Raleigh. For I-840 West, it is Winston-Salem.
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Re: Greensboro Urban Loop
« Reply #199 on: January 26, 2023, 07:16:56 PM »

The 49 Miles that NCDOT reported is including all the mileage of entrance and exit ramps as well. Which totals 10 miles?
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