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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4975 on: December 10, 2022, 11:16:34 AM »

AASHTO finally released their result for both meetings and, as always, North Carolina had a small list of changes. Here is the list finally, most of which we all knew.

Spring 2022
  • Future I-685 - Establishment
  • I-885 - Establishment
  • U.S. Route 70 Bypass - Deletion (no specifics yet if either or both)
Annual 2022
  • I-840 - Extension
  • U.S. Route 258 Business (Farmville) - Deletion
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4976 on: December 10, 2022, 03:36:45 PM »

AASHTO finally released their result for both meetings and, as always, North Carolina had a small list of changes. Here is the list finally, most of which we all knew.

Spring 2022
  • Future I-685 - Establishment
  • I-885 - Establishment
  • U.S. Route 70 Bypass - Deletion (no specifics yet if either or both)
Annual 2022
  • I-840 - Extension
  • U.S. Route 258 Business (Farmville) - Deletion

Is there still a plan to have 840 go all the way around the loop or just over the northern half?
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4977 on: December 10, 2022, 04:43:52 PM »

AASHTO finally released their result for both meetings and, as always, North Carolina had a small list of changes. Here is the list finally, most of which we all knew.

Spring 2022
  • Future I-685 - Establishment
  • I-885 - Establishment
  • U.S. Route 70 Bypass - Deletion (no specifics yet if either or both)
Annual 2022
  • I-840 - Extension
  • U.S. Route 258 Business (Farmville) - Deletion

Is there still a plan to have 840 go all the way around the loop or just over the northern half?


Just the northern half.  I do not believe it was ever planned to be on the southern half.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4978 on: December 10, 2022, 05:27:51 PM »

Is there still a plan to have 840 go all the way around the loop or just over the northern half?
Just the northern half.  I do not believe it was ever planned to be on the southern half.

Correct, it was never going to make a complete loop, just the northern half. This makes sense, NCDOT years ago removed I-440 from being a full loop around Raleigh to a half loop because it was deemed unnecessary as I-40 was the other half.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4979 on: December 12, 2022, 11:57:12 AM »

NCDOT has accelerated the proposed start of the second half of the Hampstead Bypass project:
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-12-12-ncdot-wmpo-agree-draft-stip.aspx

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4980 on: December 12, 2022, 08:49:34 PM »

I know how to find downtown Greensboro, having been there many times, but it might be harder for drivers who dont know the city since there are no numbered routes leading downtown. NC 6 came close until it was decommissioned for some reason in 2005. FWIW I suggest returning US 220 to his historic route through town, eliminating its ridiculous and useless dance around three sides of the central city.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4981 on: December 19, 2022, 08:43:51 AM »

On my way to work this morning, I notice 264 Alt between Farmville and Greenville is now just 264. I guess they finally decided the drop the Alt for the entire route.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4982 on: December 19, 2022, 12:17:03 PM »

On my way to work this morning, I notice 264 Alt between Farmville and Greenville is now just 264. I guess they finally decided the drop the Alt for the entire route.

Yeah, AASHTO approved NCDOT's request for it last year.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4983 on: December 19, 2022, 01:30:25 PM »

On my way to work this morning, I notice 264 Alt between Farmville and Greenville is now just 264. I guess they finally decided the drop the Alt for the entire route.

Yeah, AASHTO approved NCDOT's request for it last year.

I believe it is still ALT US 264 through Downtown Wilson and of course west of I-95 where I-587 is still Future I-587.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4984 on: December 19, 2022, 02:03:02 PM »

On my way to work this morning, I notice 264 Alt between Farmville and Greenville is now just 264. I guess they finally decided the drop the Alt for the entire route.

Yeah, AASHTO approved NCDOT's request for it last year.

I believe it is still ALT US 264 through Downtown Wilson and of course west of I-95 where I-587 is still Future I-587.

It is for now, but it'll probably change as well once the rest of the I-587 upgrades between Sims and Zebulon are finished.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4985 on: December 26, 2022, 08:56:13 PM »

I was on I-485 southern section today, and noticed new signs for the Rea Rd exit now include NC 84 East. I researched when i got home, and found there is a project to extend Rea Rd past Providence Rd to connect directly to Weddington Rd, but i cannot find anything to confirm NC 84 will be extended over Rea Rd once that is complete.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4986 on: December 26, 2022, 09:33:06 PM »

I was on I-485 southern section today, and noticed new signs for the Rea Rd exit now include NC 84 East. I researched when i got home, and found there is a project to extend Rea Rd past Providence Rd to connect directly to Weddington Rd, but i cannot find anything to confirm NC 84 will be extended over Rea Rd once that is complete.


http://files.leagueathletics.com/Images/Club/1880/HWY%2084%20Update%20June%2020%202017.pdf

The project have not begun yet or is still under construction, but the link above was from 2017 that mentioned about extending NC 84.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4987 on: December 26, 2022, 11:18:32 PM »

I was on I-485 southern section today, and noticed new signs for the Rea Rd exit now include NC 84 East. I researched when i got home, and found there is a project to extend Rea Rd past Providence Rd to connect directly to Weddington Rd, but i cannot find anything to confirm NC 84 will be extended over Rea Rd once that is complete.


http://files.leagueathletics.com/Images/Club/1880/HWY%2084%20Update%20June%2020%202017.pdf

The project have not begun yet or is still under construction, but the link above was from 2017 that mentioned about extending NC 84.

Unless I just missed it, I'm not seeing at that link anything showing NC 84 going west of NC 16.  The I-485 postings of NC 84 go back to at least June 2022, yet the NC 84 END sign at NC 16 is still there as of Nov 2022.... 
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4988 on: December 29, 2022, 12:48:53 PM »

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4989 on: January 02, 2023, 03:29:03 PM »

I've posted my annual year-in-review about progress during 2022 in building I-73/I-74 and NC's newest and future interstates to the Gribblenation blog: http://www.gribblenation.org/2023/01/i-73i-74-and-nc-future-interstates-year.html

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4990 on: January 03, 2023, 01:44:49 PM »

Annual toll increases for the Triangle and Monroe expressways.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-12-28-annual-toll-rate-increase.aspx
Lately I have noticed new posts next to the signs along NC540 that shows which toll passes are interoperable. The posts are larger and spaced further apart, so they appear to be about to add new, larger signs, which probably means that new interop partner(s) are about to drop.

I wonder if the long-rumored TxTag compatibility is about to go live. Or, perhaps Palmetto Pass.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4991 on: January 04, 2023, 09:39:56 AM »

https://www.equipmentworld.com/better-roads/article/15293796/business-groups-push-for-future-i685-in-north-carolina
Last Summer this article came out. Hope the feelings expressed in it died.  We already have I-40 connecting Greensboro and Wilmington with a possibility of I-74 going there. 3 interstates would be too much.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4992 on: January 04, 2023, 09:32:13 PM »

Federal funding announced for US-64 Alligator River bridge replacement between Tyrrell County and Dare County:  https://www.wral.com/n-carolina-getting-110m-for-replacement-bridge-on-us-64/20654934/

I am surprised that new Alligator River bridge will still be only 2 lanes wide (plus bike lanes).  Indeed, it is a very long structure (about 3.2 miles), but it is also part of the remaining 30 miles between Columbia and Manns Harbor that is the only section of US-64 that has not been four-laned out to the Outer Banks.  Not that this really matters, but that is the only remaining section of two-lane on US-64 all the way out to Siler City.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4993 on: January 04, 2023, 10:29:46 PM »

I find it interesting that about a decade ago, NCDOT was planning a long-term project to widen the remainder of US-64 to a four lane divided highway which included replacing the Alligator River Bridge with a single-structure 4 lane bridge with full outside shoulders.

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx

Im curious if long term plans with this most recent project have provisions for a future parallel 2nd bridge for a total of 4 lanes.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4994 on: January 04, 2023, 10:36:36 PM »

Federal funding announced for US-64 Alligator River bridge replacement between Tyrrell County and Dare County:  https://www.wral.com/n-carolina-getting-110m-for-replacement-bridge-on-us-64/20654934/

I am surprised that new Alligator River bridge will still be only 2 lanes wide (plus bike lanes).  Indeed, it is a very long structure (about 3.2 miles), but it is also part of the remaining 30 miles between Columbia and Manns Harbor that is the only section of US-64 that has not been four-laned out to the Outer Banks.  Not that this really matters, but that is the only remaining section of two-lane on US-64 all the way out to Siler City.
It is disappointing that it will still be two lanes but it will be great to eliminate the swing span. Four lanes would require over half a billion dollars.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4995 on: January 05, 2023, 12:50:03 AM »

Federal funding announced for US-64 Alligator River bridge replacement between Tyrrell County and Dare County:  https://www.wral.com/n-carolina-getting-110m-for-replacement-bridge-on-us-64/20654934/

I am surprised that new Alligator River bridge will still be only 2 lanes wide (plus bike lanes).  Indeed, it is a very long structure (about 3.2 miles), but it is also part of the remaining 30 miles between Columbia and Manns Harbor that is the only section of US-64 that has not been four-laned out to the Outer Banks.  Not that this really matters, but that is the only remaining section of two-lane on US-64 all the way out to Siler City.
It is disappointing that it will still be two lanes but it will be great to eliminate the swing span. Four lanes would require over half a billion dollars.

I think it will just be two lane bridge for now and then build an additional bridge later. I guess NCDOT is trying to save money. Everything is so expensive these days.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4996 on: January 05, 2023, 07:49:13 AM »

The US 64 widening projects in Dare and Tyrrell counties have always scored too low in the prioritization process to make it into the STIP. Add in the huge environmental impact, wetlands mitigation, wildlife concerns, etc. and any funded widening project would have likely faced years of legal battles. THEN add in NCDOT's budgeting issues and the never-ending inflation of the last few years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/lindsay-warren-bridge-replacement/Documents/lindsay-warren-bridge-replacement-categorical-exclusion.pdf
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/lindsay-warren-bridge-replacement/Documents/lindsay-warren-bridge-replacement-west-end-tyrrell-county-map.pdf
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/lindsay-warren-bridge-replacement/Documents/lindsay-warren-bridge-replacement-east-end-dare-county-map.pdf

I think NCDOT may finally be realizing they can't four-lane every highway to every nook and cranny of the state. Take the recent "Corridor K" projects that are moving forward on the other end of the state. After decades of the project going nowhere, they abandoned four-lanes due to lawsuits and costs and are proceeding with the less costly and environmentally damaging alternatives.

https://www.southernenvironment.org/news/corridor-k-broad-coalition-celebrates-long-fought-win-for-right-sized-road/
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4997 on: January 05, 2023, 10:41:36 AM »




NCDOT already knows that. The only difference was that Corridor K was to be 4 laned. That part of Corridor K is very mountainous and goes through some natural parks. No need to widen that part road to 4 lanes. Just leave it as it is and make improvements to it.

Some roads should just be left as is (especially in the mountains). Making improvements are fine, but why widening it? There are alternatives to take traffic around.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4999 on: January 19, 2023, 04:00:27 PM »

I contacted NCDOT to see if the Military Cutoff Road may be open when I drive through Wilmington, and the response I received was that it will not be open until Fall.
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