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Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)

Started by Interstate 69 Fan, November 15, 2016, 07:17:07 PM

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bob7374

Quote from: sprjus4 on July 08, 2022, 02:37:08 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 08, 2022, 12:34:59 AM
And there will be another 3di concurrency in North Carolina once NCDOT completes the "missing gap" from N Elm Street to US 29/I-785 in Greensboro.
It's already under construction, it will be complete within the next year or so.
The official completion date for the Greensboro Urban Loop is Spring 2023.


bob7374


The Ghostbuster

Still no 587 shields along the US 264 freeway between Wilson and Greenville on Google Maps. I (or somebody else) will keep all you posted on whether this changes. Stay tuned!

LM117

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 13, 2022, 06:20:37 PM
Still no 587 shields along the US 264 freeway between Wilson and Greenville on Google Maps. I (or somebody else) will keep all you posted on whether this changes. Stay tuned!

They may be waiting until all of the signs have been changed, and according to an article posted upthread, aluminum shortage is still an issue, so it could be a while.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

74/171FAN

Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 22, 2022, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Not the best photo sadly, but I think it is good enough for you to get the point.  Basically, this is a similar shield for I-83 with a white "END".  I believe it was installed as a part of the I-83 construction so I believe it will be around for a while.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217275077509474&set=a.10216218268569911

I added a second photo showing the left END sign for I-83 more clearly.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217384499764962&set=a.10216218268569911)
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LM117

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Quote from: bob7374 on June 26, 2022, 10:54:57 AM
Greenville newspaper article regarding signing of I-587 which indicates a slow timeline for sign updates due to 'supply change issues' for aluminum signs. It also quotes an NCDOT official saying "about 900 signs will be changed out intermittently at a cost of about $9 million." Does that number seem reasonable? 37 miles of 1/2 mile markers in each direction yields only about 150 signs and there are less than 20 exits needing new reassurance and trailblazer markers along with exit number changes between I-95 and Greenville. Perhaps this includes US 264 sign changes as well:
https://www.reflector.com/news/local/community-celebrates-signage-for-interstate-587/article_6ba29ba2-29cd-51dd-a31d-ecfff55cbf02.html

NCDOT press release about the sign changes, including a new numbering system for the section between I-95 and Zebulon.

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

bob7374

Quote from: LM117 on July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PM
Quote from: bob7374 on June 26, 2022, 10:54:57 AM
Greenville newspaper article regarding signing of I-587 which indicates a slow timeline for sign updates due to 'supply change issues' for aluminum signs. It also quotes an NCDOT official saying "about 900 signs will be changed out intermittently at a cost of about $9 million." Does that number seem reasonable? 37 miles of 1/2 mile markers in each direction yields only about 150 signs and there are less than 20 exits needing new reassurance and trailblazer markers along with exit number changes between I-95 and Greenville. Perhaps this includes US 264 sign changes as well:
https://www.reflector.com/news/local/community-celebrates-signage-for-interstate-587/article_6ba29ba2-29cd-51dd-a31d-ecfff55cbf02.html

NCDOT press release about the sign changes, including a new numbering system for the section between I-95 and Zebulon.

Also noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx
It might have been helpful to include the new exit numbers with the press release. I have an exit list with my best guesses at: https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/i587exits.html

Will the US 264 mile markers be ones without a shield or with a I-587 shield covered up, for now.

ahj2000

Google maps still doesn't have I-587. For how quick they are on some changes, they sure are slow in this.

LM117

Quote from: LM117 on July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PMAlso noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

Mapmikey

Quote from: LM117 on July 29, 2022, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: LM117 on July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PMAlso noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:

I-369 comes to mind in the recent past.  I-269 probably qualifies too.

It is a certainty that this dynamic existed during the early years before substantial completion of the system.


sprjus4

Quote from: Mapmikey on July 29, 2022, 10:06:18 AM
I-369 comes to mind in the recent past.
I-369 currently only exists as a 3 mile route near Texarkana... the entire I-369 highway will be over 100 miles long once completed, stretching south to meet I-69 at Tenaha.

bob7374

Google Maps Street View has updated images taken along I-587 West to June 2022 between Farmville and Wilson. I was able to take some screen grabs of the mile markers that had been placed by that time (unfortunately, it appears they traveled the route a few days before the I-587 shields started going up though, comparing images with earlier ones, they had already started taking down US 264 signs in Pitt and Greene Counties), such as:


The remaining photos are at https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut587.html#photos

Based on the images I made some corrections to my preliminary exit list, especially in the Wilson area.

Alps

Quote from: LM117 on July 29, 2022, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: LM117 on July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PMAlso noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
Not in the least. Every single x95 qualifies under this, for example.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: Alps on July 29, 2022, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: LM117 on July 29, 2022, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: LM117 on July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PMAlso noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
Not in the least. Every single x95 qualifies under this, for example.

Lots of x70s too.

dfilpus

Quote from: JayhawkCO on July 29, 2022, 05:28:26 PM
Quote from: Alps on July 29, 2022, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: LM117 on July 29, 2022, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: LM117 on July 27, 2022, 04:54:59 PMAlso noted is that a contract to upgrade the rest of US-264 to interstate standards between I-95 and Zebulon will be awarded in 3 to 4 years.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2022/2022-07-27-new-signs-future-i-587.aspx

Something occurred to me about this just now. Assuming NCDOT keeps this schedule, would this be the first time a 3di was completed and signed before the parent 2di was finished? :hmmm:
Not in the least. Every single x95 qualifies under this, for example.

Lots of x70s too.
And x40s and x90s, as well.

I-55

Quote from: ahj2000 on July 28, 2022, 08:28:09 PM
Google maps still doesn't have I-587. For how quick they are on some changes, they sure are slow in this.

Especially since I-885 is already in Google despite the east end connector being opened after I-587 was signed.
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The Ghostbuster


bob7374

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 04, 2022, 05:00:21 PM
Good News! Interstate 587 is now marked on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6780375,-77.7093894,30049m/data=!3m1!1e3.
Though they took US 264 off the freeway east of Wilson, they still have Alt US 264 signed between there and Greenville. A small step forward though.

Bobby5280

I-587 is visible in Google Earth as well.

bob7374

Quote from: bob7374 on August 09, 2022, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 04, 2022, 05:00:21 PM
Good News! Interstate 587 is now marked on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6780375,-77.7093894,30049m/data=!3m1!1e3.
Though they took US 264 off the freeway east of Wilson, they still have Alt US 264 signed between there and Greenville. A small step forward though.
Noticed today that I-587 has now also appeared on NCDOT's own 'Real-Time Traffic' maps. (Too bad they don't include exit numbers.)

The Ghostbuster

Is the US 264/NC 11 Bypass segment no longer planned to become part of Interstate 587? I believe that at one point, the segment from Exit 73 to Exit 80 was going to be included as part of 587.

LM117

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 19, 2022, 02:12:31 PM
Is the US 264/NC 11 Bypass segment no longer planned to become part of Interstate 587? I believe that at one point, the segment from Exit 73 to Exit 80 was going to be included as part of 587.

No, it was never planned to become part of I-587.

However, it was part of a proposed new interstate between Kinston and Bethel, which was included in the Eastern NC Gateway Act that was introduced in Congress shortly before the 2016 elections. It obviously didn't get anywhere, and there's been no further talk of it since.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

bob7374

I've posted screen grabs from the updated (July and August) Google Maps Street View coverage of I-587, which includes this End I-587 sign (again using a US route white banner) just beyond the first Greenville Bypass exit:


The rest can be found at: https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut587.html#photos

The Ghostbuster

Will the exit numbers on Interstate 587 be renumbered anytime soon? Or will the US 264 numbers remain until the 587 designation reaches US 64 (and future Interstate 87)?

LM117

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 06, 2022, 04:37:13 PM
Will the exit numbers on Interstate 587 be renumbered anytime soon? Or will the US 264 numbers remain until the 587 designation reaches US 64 (and future Interstate 87)?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19189.msg2757943#msg2757943
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette



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