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Started by bing101, January 14, 2016, 06:58:14 PM

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Quote from: bing101 on July 18, 2018, 12:18:43 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/07/18/you-are-looking-live-at-brent-musburgers-return-to-the-booth-with-the-raiders/?utm_term=.136de426be06&noredirect=on

Update Brent Musburger former ESPN announcer has a broadcasting deal with the Raiders.

Apparently Greg Papa just didn't want to make the move to Las Vegas (can't fault him for that!), whereas Musberger (who's pushing 80!) lives there full time and was itching to do play-by-play again.   Too bad; Papa was a very good broadcaster; hope he catches another gig in a town he can tolerate! 

Alex

Was in Las Vegas last weekend, and rode by the new Raiders Stadium site along Dean Martin Drive. They are making some serious progress there.






sparker

Quote from: sparker on July 19, 2018, 02:11:12 AM
Quote from: bing101 on July 18, 2018, 12:18:43 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/07/18/you-are-looking-live-at-brent-musburgers-return-to-the-booth-with-the-raiders/?utm_term=.136de426be06&noredirect=on

Update Brent Musburger former ESPN announcer has a broadcasting deal with the Raiders.

Apparently Greg Papa just didn't want to make the move to Las Vegas (can't fault him for that!), whereas Musberger (who's pushing 80!) lives there full time and was itching to do play-by-play again.   Too bad; Papa was a very good broadcaster; hope he catches another gig in a town he can tolerate! 

According to an article in this mornings' Murky News, they also sacked Tom Flores, their old coach and current "color" guy.  According to Flores, he didn't expect anything of the sort until he heard Papa was leaving -- but then assumed management was going to do a "clean sweep".  He may have been a bit of a dick, but old Al Davis at least had a sense of team history (of which his kid seems to be a bit short!).

MantyMadTown

Quote from: sparker on July 05, 2018, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on May 21, 2018, 04:04:35 PM
You could move the Chargers there. The LA thing is going to flop and there is no way they are moving back to San Diego.

Spanos Central (where the family hails from and has most of their commercial interests) is Stockton; seeing how that town just is not going to get a NFL team, nearby Sacramento might be a contender if they can select a site for a stadium+parking (likely back out in Natomas or across the river in West Sac -- or even down in Elk Grove) -- if the L.A. situation eventually shows that it can't support two teams.   

That would be weird seeing another sports team in the Sacramento market. The Kings have always been terrible. Who's to say the Chargers wouldn't be if they moved?
Forget the I-41 haters

sparker

Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 04, 2018, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 05, 2018, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on May 21, 2018, 04:04:35 PM
You could move the Chargers there. The LA thing is going to flop and there is no way they are moving back to San Diego.

Spanos Central (where the family hails from and has most of their commercial interests) is Stockton; seeing how that town just is not going to get a NFL team, nearby Sacramento might be a contender if they can select a site for a stadium+parking (likely back out in Natomas or across the river in West Sac -- or even down in Elk Grove) -- if the L.A. situation eventually shows that it can't support two teams.   

That would be weird seeing another sports team in the Sacramento market. The Kings have always been terrible. Who's to say the Chargers wouldn't be if they moved?

The Kings have always been terrible because their owners are cheapskates.  They played in what was essentially a couple of converted Natomas-area warehouses until they for all intents & purposes blackmailed the city of Sacramento into subsidizing a downtown arena for them.  While the Spanos family have never been mistaken for huge spenders, at least they know how to attract enough talent to keep a team competitive (although not enough at times to overcome injuries).  All that being said, the chances of the Chargers moving to Sacramento are quite slim; if L.A. is not profitable for them in the long run, other cities out of state (SLC, Austin, El Paso, Albuquerque) may well be in a better position to acquire their services. 

dvferyance

Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 04, 2018, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 05, 2018, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on May 21, 2018, 04:04:35 PM
You could move the Chargers there. The LA thing is going to flop and there is no way they are moving back to San Diego.

Spanos Central (where the family hails from and has most of their commercial interests) is Stockton; seeing how that town just is not going to get a NFL team, nearby Sacramento might be a contender if they can select a site for a stadium+parking (likely back out in Natomas or across the river in West Sac -- or even down in Elk Grove) -- if the L.A. situation eventually shows that it can't support two teams.   

That would be weird seeing another sports team in the Sacramento market. The Kings have always been terrible. Who's to say the Chargers wouldn't be if they moved?
Sacramento can just support the 49ers they are too close to the bay area for major league sports.

MantyMadTown

Quote from: dvferyance on August 07, 2018, 04:45:37 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 04, 2018, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 05, 2018, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on May 21, 2018, 04:04:35 PM
You could move the Chargers there. The LA thing is going to flop and there is no way they are moving back to San Diego.

Spanos Central (where the family hails from and has most of their commercial interests) is Stockton; seeing how that town just is not going to get a NFL team, nearby Sacramento might be a contender if they can select a site for a stadium+parking (likely back out in Natomas or across the river in West Sac -- or even down in Elk Grove) -- if the L.A. situation eventually shows that it can't support two teams.   

That would be weird seeing another sports team in the Sacramento market. The Kings have always been terrible. Who's to say the Chargers wouldn't be if they moved?
Sacramento can just support the 49ers they are too close to the bay area for major league sports.

I heard the Niners are gonna be good again!
Forget the I-41 haters

sparker

Seeing as how the Niners actually play in Santa Clara -- and the distance between there and Sacramento is about the same as between Philadelphia and NYC (and both of those metro areas feature NFL/NBA/MLB teams) -- the matter of distance should be moot.  OK -- I know the Northeast is "special" because of its longstanding relationship with the pro leagues -- but the reality is that at 500K in the city and 2M in the metro area, Sacramento is capable of supporting more than a basketball team.  Now whether Jed York pisses and moans because someone is "invading" his home territory (although he and previous ownership have coexisted with the Raiders for 58 years minus the L.A. stint) is yet to be determined (and frankly, WTF cares!). 

And, yes, the Niners will be on the road to greatness if Jimmy G. can maintain his mastery enough to get at least a 11-5 record in the coming season (that should be enough to slide past the Rams and Seattle).

MantyMadTown

Quote from: sparker on August 08, 2018, 12:32:07 AM
Seeing as how the Niners actually play in Santa Clara -- and the distance between there and Sacramento is about the same as between Philadelphia and NYC (and both of those metro areas feature NFL/NBA/MLB teams) -- the matter of distance should be moot.  OK -- I know the Northeast is "special" because of its longstanding relationship with the pro leagues -- but the reality is that at 500K in the city and 2M in the metro area, Sacramento is capable of supporting more than a basketball team.  Now whether Jed York pisses and moans because someone is "invading" his home territory (although he and previous ownership have coexisted with the Raiders for 58 years minus the L.A. stint) is yet to be determined (and frankly, WTF cares!). 

And, yes, the Niners will be on the road to greatness if Jimmy G. can maintain his mastery enough to get at least a 11-5 record in the coming season (that should be enough to slide past the Rams and Seattle).

Speaking of which I'm glad the Raiders are moving, simply because the Niners cannot say they represent San Francisco if their stadium is farther away from San Francisco than Oakland is. I was thinking that the 49ers could call themselves "San Francisco" to represent the entire Bay Area, so they would pretty much have to be the only team there, despite having shown a successful market for two teams. I actually thought the Raiders should've moved to Los Angeles before the Rams and the Chargers decided to move there and the Raiders chose to move to Las Vegas.
Forget the I-41 haters

sparker

Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 01:20:03 AM
Quote from: sparker on August 08, 2018, 12:32:07 AM
Seeing as how the Niners actually play in Santa Clara -- and the distance between there and Sacramento is about the same as between Philadelphia and NYC (and both of those metro areas feature NFL/NBA/MLB teams) -- the matter of distance should be moot.  OK -- I know the Northeast is "special" because of its longstanding relationship with the pro leagues -- but the reality is that at 500K in the city and 2M in the metro area, Sacramento is capable of supporting more than a basketball team.  Now whether Jed York pisses and moans because someone is "invading" his home territory (although he and previous ownership have coexisted with the Raiders for 58 years minus the L.A. stint) is yet to be determined (and frankly, WTF cares!). 

And, yes, the Niners will be on the road to greatness if Jimmy G. can maintain his mastery enough to get at least a 11-5 record in the coming season (that should be enough to slide past the Rams and Seattle).

Speaking of which I'm glad the Raiders are moving, simply because the Niners cannot say they represent San Francisco if their stadium is farther away from San Francisco than Oakland is. I was thinking that the 49ers could call themselves "San Francisco" to represent the entire Bay Area, so they would pretty much have to be the only team there, despite having shown a successful market for two teams. I actually thought the Raiders should've moved to Los Angeles before the Rams and the Chargers decided to move there and the Raiders chose to move to Las Vegas.

Several years ago there was a plan to lure the Raiders back to L.A. with a new stadium alongside the CA 57/60 multiplex straddling Walnut and Diamond Bar near the Grand Ave. interchange; the land was there and optioned, but nothing came of it.  Just as well -- that would have added to the existing mess out there.  IIRC, the main problem was parking; much of the hillside north of the freeway would have had to be flattened to provide adequate room for both a 80K capacity stadium plus parking for about 30K cars & buses; the prospect of that happening sounded an alarm with Diamond Bar NIMBY's, and the plan was dropped soon thereafter.   



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