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Your state’s border crossings ranked

Started by thspfc, April 25, 2021, 03:19:22 PM

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thspfc

Rank your state's border crossings by importance.
My opinion for Wisconsin's top 10:

1. I-41/94 at the IL border
2. I-39/90 at the IL border
3. I-94/US-12 at the MN border
4. I-90 at the MN border
5. US-61/151 at the IA border
6. I-535/US-53 at the MN border
7. US-41 at the MI border
8. US-12 at the IL border
9. US-14/61 at the MN border
10. US-2 at the MI border (in Ironwood)


Max Rockatansky

California subjectively:

1.  I-15 at the Nevada State Line
2.  I-5 at the Oregon State Line
3.  I-10/US 95 at the Arizona State Line
4.  I-80 at the Nevada State Line
5.  I-40 at the Arizona State Line
6.  I-8 at the Arizona State Line
7.  US 50 at the Nevada State Line
8.  US 395 for passenger cars south of Reno but probably now CA 167 for freight.
9.  US 95 at the Nevada State Line
10.  US 199 at the Oregon State Line
11.  CA 88 at the Nevada State Line
12.  US 395 north of Reno.
13.  US 101 from the Oregon State Line
14.  CA 62 from the Arizona State Line
15.  CA 28 from the Nevada State Line

TheHighwayMan3561

MN, where I struggle to rank beyond #1.

1. I-94 at the WI border
2. MN 36/WIS 64
3. I-94 at the ND border
4. I-90 at the WI border
5. I-35 at the IA border
6. I-535 and US 2 WI crossings
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NWI_Irish96

For Indiana:

1. I-80/94 at IL
2. I-65 at KY
3. I-94 at MI
4. I-80/90 at OH
5. I-70 at OH
6. I-70 at IL
7. I-74 at OH
8. I-64 at KY
9. US 41 at KY
10. I-69 at MI
11. I-90 at IL
12. I-74 at IL
13. I-64 at IL
14. US 30 at OH
15. US 31 at MI
Indiana: counties 100%, highways 100%
Illinois: counties 100%, highways 61%
Michigan: counties 100%, highways 56%
Wisconsin: counties 86%, highways 23%

ilpt4u

Quote from: cabiness42 on April 25, 2021, 04:34:17 PM
For Indiana:

1. I-80/94 at IL
2. I-65 at KY
3. I-94 at MI
4. I-80/90 at OH
5. I-70 at OH
6. I-70 at IL
7. I-74 at OH
8. I-64 at KY
9. US 41 at KY
10. I-69 at MI
11. I-90 at IL
12. I-74 at IL
13. I-64 at IL
14. US 30 at OH
15. US 31 at MI
No love for US 24 at OH on the Toledo/Fort Wayne route?
IN 10/IL 114 gets some traffic as an alternate to 80/94 for I-65 traffic, to jump over to I-57

Roadgeekteen

#5
I'm going to try (just interstates):

I-84 MA/CT
I-95 MA/NH
I-93 MA/NH
I-95 MA/RI
I-90 MA/NY
I-91 MA/CT
I-195 MA/RI
I-295 MA/RI
I-395 MA/CT
I-91 MA/VT
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Max Rockatansky

What about least important?  Here are some non-OHV examples for California:

-  Nipton Road on the Nevada State Line
-  Needles Highway on the Nevada State Line
-  K Street in the Arizona State Line
-  CA 299 on the Nevada State Line
-  Stateline Road on the Nevada State Line
-  Daylight Pass Road on the Nevada State Line
-  CA 266 on the Nevada State Line
-  Anges Wilson Road on the Arizona State Line
-  River Road (this is fun finding this one) on the Arizona State Line
-  CA 182 on the Nevada State Line
-  Red Rock Road on the Nevada State Line
-  Surprise Valley Road on the Nevada State Line
-  Barrel Springs Road on the Nevada State Line
-  County Road 1 on the Oregon State Line
-  All the roads leading to Goose Lake State Park in Oregon
-  Anything entering Oregon from CA 161
-  Hilt Road over the Oregon State Line
-  Grayback Road to the Oregon State Line

I guess now that I think about it US 6, CA 139 and US 97 would all be a step down from the original 15 in terms of importance I posted above. 

SkyPesos

#7
Ohio (2019 AADT for each crossing in parenthesis)

Interstate crossings and 4 lane divided US routes included. Most others are below 10k AADT.

I-71/I-75 KY (153k)
I-471 KY (107k)
I-275 KY (81k)
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
I-74 IN (45k)
I-470 WV (40k)
I-70 IN (36k)
US 22 WV (32,035)
I-275 IN (31,849)
I-80 PA (30k)
I-76 PA (26k)
I-90 PA (23,894)
I-70 WV (23,790)
US 35 WV (20,899)
I-80/90 IN (20,779)
I-77 WV (20,757)
US 52 WV (20,207)
US 30 IN (15,306)
US 24 IN (14,822)
US 50 WV (13k)

I'm actually surprised that I-80/90 at IN border ended up this low on the list, barely above I-77 WV as the second least used of the 14 interstate crossings. Thought it would be at least above the I-70 IN crossing.

tigerwings

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
Ohio (2019 AADT for each crossing in parenthesis)

Interstate crossings and 4 lane divided US routes included. Most others are below 10k AADT.

I-71/I-75 KY (153k)
I-471 KY (107k)
I-275 KY (81k)
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
I-74 IN (45k)
I-470 WV (40k)
I-70 IN (36k)
US 22 WV (32,035)
I-275 IN (31,849)
I-80 PA (30k)
I-76 PA (26k)
I-90 PA (23,894)
I-70 WV (23,790)
I-80/90 IN (20,779)
I-77 WV (20,757)
US 35 WV (21k)
US 52 WV (20k)
US 24 IN (15k)
US 30 IN (15k)
US 50 WV (13k)

I'm actually surprised that I-80/90 at IN border ended up this low on the list, barely above I-77 WV as the second least used of the 14 interstate crossings. Thought it would be at least above the I-70 IN crossing.

Lots of trucks jump off at OH 15 and OH 49 and take US 20 into Indiana. But I don't think its enough to make a huge difference.

Also suspect US 24 takes some to the traffic from 80/90.

ozarkman417

I'm not going to make a list of border crossings for MO right now, but the Poplar Street Bridge (I-55, I-64/US 40, and formerly I-70) is at the top of the list for the state.

jp the roadgeek

I'll try my state (CT)

1. I-95 NY
2. I-84 MA
3. I-84 NY
4. I-91 MA
5. CT 15/HRP NY
6. Both I-684 NY crossings (odds are if cross one, you'll cross the other)
7. I-95 RI
8. US 6/202 NY
9. US 6 RI (though most traffic uses SR 695 before/after)
10. CT/MA 159 (seasonal for Six Flags)
11. I-395 MA
12. CT/RI 78 (seasonal for beach traffic)
13. Bridgeport/Port Jeff ferry
14. US 1 NY
15. CT/RI 101 (most direct from Hartford to Providence)
16. US 5 MA (if I-91 is backed up)
17. US 7 MA (back-way to Albany)
18. NY 120A (King St straddling the border between Rye Brook & Greenwich)
19. CT/MA 8 (another back-way to Albany)
20. CT/NY 35 (to avoid the 84/684 mess in Brewster)
21. US 1 CT/RI (more for local traffic)
22. Any of the various crossings in the Stamford/Greenwich area (eg CT/NY 123, CT/NY 137)
23. CT/MA 75 (especially during the Big E)
24. US 202 & CT/MA 10
25: US 44 NY
26: US 44 RI
27: CT/MA 12 (as an alternate to I-395)
28. CT/MA 131 (a shortcut from Putnam to Sturbridge)
29. Joe's Hill Rd/CR 54 NY (a secret backway from Danbury to NY 22)
30. CT/RI 14

The next 10 (in no particular order):
CT/RI 165
CT/RI 138
CT/MA 32
CT/MA 187
CT/MA 41
CT/MA 169 (scenic)
CT/MA 83
CT/MA 192
CT/MA 220
New London/Orient ferry
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

ftballfan

Here are Michigan's border crossings (2019):
State borders
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
I-94 IN: 45,616
US-41 WI: 26,839
I-69 IN: 25,445
US-31 IN: 20,925
M-51 IN: 14,409
M-66 IN: 10,778
M-62 IN: 10,286
US-24 OH: 9,928
US-131 IN: 8,565
US-12 IN: 8,147
US-141 WI (Niagara): 7,030
US-2/141 WI (Iron Mountain): 6,683
M-125 OH: 6,304
BUS US-2 WI: 5,435 (it jumps up dramatically from 1,859 just east of the crossing)
M-95 WI: 5,154
M-103 IN: 5,012
US-2 WI (Ironwood): 5,005
M-239 IN: 4,919
M-217 IN: 4,568
Memorial Hwy OH (former US-223 still maintained as an unsigned state trunkline): 3,311
US-2/141 WI (Crystal Falls): 2,803
M-52 OH: 2,627
US-127 OH: 2,336
M-99 OH: 2,236
US-45 WI: 2,138
US-8 WI: 1,661
M-156 OH: 1,491
M-189 WI: 1,081
M-49 OH: 1,051
M-64 WI: 552
M-73 WI: 408

The Canadian crossings don't have accurate AADT numbers, but here are their rankings in importance:
1. Ambassador Bridge
2. Blue Water Bridge
3. Detroit-Windsor Tunnel
4. International Bridge (Sault Ste. Marie)

The Howe Bridge will jump to #1 when it opens.

Bonus:
Major non-trunkline crossings (over 5,000 AADT)
Lewis Rd (Monroe County -> OH): 13,632
Gumwood Rd (Cass County -> IN): 6,021
Jackman Rd (Monroe County -> OH): 5,910
Cassopolis Rd/Old M-205 (Cass County -> IN): 5,542
Ironwood Rd (Cass County -> IN): 5,138

SkyPesos

Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.

ftballfan

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.

I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.

epzik8

For Maryland:


  • I-95/495 at DC line (Wilson Bridge)
  • I-95 at DE line
  • I-495 at VA line (American Legion Bridge)
  • I-68 at WV line
  • I-70 at PA line
  • I-81 at PA line
  • I-83 at PA line
  • I-81 at WV line
  • I-295 at DC line
  • US 301 at VA line
  • US 50 at DC line
  • MD 295 at DC line
  • US 1 at PA line
  • US 13 at VA line
  • US 40 at DE line
  • US 1 at DC line
  • US 13 at DE line
  • MD 404 at DE line
  • US 15 at PA line
  • US 219 at PA line
  • US 301 at DE line
  • US 340 at VA line
  • US 29 at DC line
  • US 40 at PA line
  • US 220 at WV line
  • US 11 at PA line
  • US 113 at DE line
  • US 15 at VA line
  • US 222 at PA line
  • US 522 at PA line

Honorable mentions:
US 522 at WV line
MD 355 at DC line
US 11 at WV line
MD 97 at PA line
US 50 at WV line
US 50 at VA line
MD 4 at DC line
US 219 at WV line
MD 165 at PA line
MD 272 at PA line
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gonealookin

#15
Nevada:

1.  I-15 from California (47,000)
2.  US 50 from California  (27,400) (this includes a lot of pedestrian traffic too though)
3.  I-80 from California (36,500)
4.  I-15 from Arizona (24,000) (welcome, Utah)
5.  I-11/US 93 from Arizona (20,500)
6.  CA 28/NV 28 from California (12,900)
7.  AZ 95/NV 163 from Arizona (30,500) (this number is fluffy because of a lot of local traffic in Laughlin/Bullhead City)
8.  I-80 from Utah (5,850)
9.  US 93 from Idaho (4,150)
10.  US 95 from Oregon (Idaho) (2,750)

Edit: Being a Nevadan I tend to think of the "importance of border crossings" as "how much money visitors bring across the border at each crossing", so I ranked them intuitively that way.  I did go back and add representative 2019 AADT, and for the most part there's a correspondence.

webny99

Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.

I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.

Probably just a difference in which day OH and MI did their counts.

SkyPesos

#17
Quote from: webny99 on April 25, 2021, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.

I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.

Probably just a difference in which day OH and MI did their counts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that AADT is counted with the total number of vehicles that crossed over the AADT sensor (or whatever it uses) in a year, then divide that number by 365, hence the word "average". If that's the case, theoretically, there shouldn't be that big of a difference between AADT counts of that same road in two states.

US 89

#18
Going to use AADT numbers for this since I feel like all our interstate border crossings are about the same importance level. This is every state-maintained road that crosses the Utah state line:

I-15 at AZ line: 25000
I-80 at WY line: 16000
I-15 at ID line: 12000
I-84 at ID line: 9800
US 91 at ID line: 8500
I-70 at CO line: 7700
I-80 at NV line: 7600
US 89A at AZ line: 5200
US 89 at AZ line: 4800
SR 59 at AZ line: 4400
US 40 at CO line: 3200
US 491 at CO line: 3100
US 89 at ID line: 2800
SR 58/BL-80 at NV line: 2600
US 163 at AZ line: 2500
SR 162 at CO line: 2000
US 191 at AZ line: 1900
SR 43 at WY line (east): 1700
SR 200 at ID line: 1400
SR 23 at ID line: 1300
SR 16 at WY line: 1300
US 191 at WY line: 1200
SR 43 at WY line (west): 1200
SR 30 at WY line: 780
SR 56 at NV line: 590
US 6/50 at NV line: 420
SR 46 at CO line: 420
SR 30 at NV line: 400
SR 150 at WY line: 350
SR 42 at ID line: 260
SR 21 at NV line: 170
FA 1364 at CO line (not state maintained in Utah, but connects to SH 318): 70

I was initially surprised to see US 91 higher than two Interstate crossings, but it does make sense as Logan is the closest good-size city for Franklin County and a good chunk of southeast Idaho.

EDIT: bolding the ones I've crossed myself because why not.

webny99

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 25, 2021, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.

I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.

Probably just a difference in which day OH and MI did their counts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that AADT is counted with the total number of vehicles that crossed over the AADT sensor (or whatever it uses), then divide that number by 365, hence the word "average". If that's the case, theoretically, there shouldn't be that big of a difference between AADT counts of that same road in two states.

It depends if it's a short count or an ongoing count. This could vary by state. Here in New York, our data is mostly short counts (data is usually collected over a period of 3-5 weekdays, with equipment set up at the beginning of the count and taken down at the end) except for a few select locations which gather data year-round.

Obviously, there's going to be some variation with short counts, say if Ohio collected their data in April and Michigan collected theirs in June. But even if one state uses ongoing counts, you'd need both to do so for the numbers to be exact, and even then, the exact time frame could skew it a bit. I'm honestly surprised the numbers are as close as they are. I wouldn't have batted an eyelash at an even larger difference.

corco

Idahoooo
1. I-90 Washington
2. I-84 Oregon
3. I-15 Utah
4. I-84 Utah
5. US 91 Utah
6. US 95 Oregon
7. US 12 Washington
8. Idaho 8 Washington
9. Idaho 33 Wyoming
10. US 30 Oregon

Bitmapped

#21
Quote from: epzik8 on April 25, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
For Maryland:

3. I-68 at WV line
This seems a very high ranking for this crossing relative to other much more heavily traveled ones.

Quote from: epzik8 on April 25, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
5. I-70 at PA line
30. US 522 at PA line
I-70 and US 522 are multiplexed at the state line. These are the same crossing.

JoePCool14

I'll try to do Illinois' just based on personal perception. Most of these are probably just crapshoots in no particular order.

1. I-80/I-94 with Indiana
2. I-94 with Wisconsin
3. I-270 with Missouri
4. I-39/I-90 with Wisconsin
5. I-70 with Indiana
6. I-90 with Indiana
7. I-74 with Indiana
8. I-80 with Iowa
9. US-20 with Iowa
10. I-64 with Kentucky

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JayhawkCO

#23
In the style of US89, here's Colorado by AADT:

1. I-25 Wyoming  (23,000)
2. I-25 New Mexico  (13,000)
3. I-70 Kansas  (11,000)
4. I-76 Nebraska  (9,900)
5. US550 New Mexico  (9,100)
6. I-70 Utah  (8,500)
7. US287 Wyoming  (4,200)
8. US491 New Mexico  (3,700)
9. US85 Wyoming  (3,500)
10. US287/385 Oklahoma  (3,100)
11. US491 Utah  (2,800)
12. CO140 New Mexico  (2,100)
13. US40 Utah  (2,000)
14. US160 New Mexico  (1,800)
15. US50/400 Kansas  (1,500)
16a. US285 New Mexico  (1,400)
16b. CO13 Wyoming  (1,400)
18a. US84 New Mexico  (1,200)
18b. US34 Nebraska  (1,200)
18c. CO113 Nebraska  (1,200)
21. CO127 Wyoming  (950)
22. CO41 Utah  (870)
23. CO159 New Mexico  (840)
24. US40 Kansas  (800)
25. CO71 Nebraska  (790)
26. US6 Nebraska  (710)
27. US138 Nebraska  (660)
28. CO23 Nebraska  (520)
29. CO11 Nebraska  (500)
30. CO17 New Mexico  (480)
31. CO125 Wyoming  (460)
32. US385 Nebraska  (430)
33. CO96 Kansas  (410)
34. US36 Kansas  (360)[/b]
35. CO172 New Mexico  (330)
36. CO90 Utah  (290)
37. US160 Kansas  (220)
38. CO116 Kansas  (120)
39. CO318 Utah  (110)
40. CO389 New Mexico  (100)

Bonus - Not a State Maintained Highway in Colorado, But State Maintained in Bordering State:
WYO430/Moffat CR10N (280)
WYO10/Larimer CR103 (233)
WYO214/Weld CR79 (199)
K-15/Baca CR-M (115)

The only ones I think I'd re-order would be having I-70 Kansas and I-76 Nebraska higher than I-25 New Mexico.  I think, by importance, the truck traffic on those routes brings it a little higher than the NM traffic which has some local Raton-Trinidad stuff going on.

I was a little bit surprised to see US550 New Mexico higher than US287 Wyoming as well as having CO140 the highest of the state routes.

Chris

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