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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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interstatefan990

Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:21:56 AM
What information does it convey in error?

What about the title "Erroneous road signs" conveys "incorrect information only"? Many things can be erroneous, not just the accuracy of what the sign tells you.

Quote from: 1 on April 27, 2021, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:21:56 AM
What information does it convey in error?

I don't see any change in the pavement as you pass the sign.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I wasn't sure if GSV wasn't showing enough detail or if the road really did just never get rough.
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JoePCool14

Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 27, 2021, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:21:56 AM
What information does it convey in error?

What about the title "Erroneous road signs" conveys "incorrect information only"? Many things can be erroneous, not just the accuracy of what the sign tells you.

A design error is indeed erroneous. It's just that on this forum we have created separate threads for different issues on signs. Signs with Design Errors, Redundant Signs, The Worst Of, US/State Shield Mix-ups, The Good, The Bad, the Ugly, etc. Admittedly it's gotten to the point where we all play politics with where a specific sign should go when in the end it probably doesn't matter. And yes, I'm guilty of this too.

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Scott5114

Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 27, 2021, 10:23:50 PM
It's just that on this forum we have created separate threads for different issues on signs. Signs with Design Errors, Redundant Signs, The Worst Of, US/State Shield Mix-ups, The Good, The Bad, the Ugly, etc. Admittedly it's gotten to the point where we all play politics with where a specific sign should go when in the end it probably doesn't matter.

Behold, the real design error.
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interstatefan990

Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 27, 2021, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 27, 2021, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:21:56 AM
What information does it convey in error?

What about the title "Erroneous road signs" conveys "incorrect information only"? Many things can be erroneous, not just the accuracy of what the sign tells you.

A design error is indeed erroneous. It's just that on this forum we have created separate threads for different issues on signs. Signs with Design Errors, Redundant Signs, The Worst Of, US/State Shield Mix-ups, The Good, The Bad, the Ugly, etc. Admittedly it's gotten to the point where we all play politics with where a specific sign should go when in the end it probably doesn't matter. And yes, I'm guilty of this too.

I guess signs can qualify for multiple threads. It's just a matter of choosing which one, which may be more difficult for people like me who haven't yet discovered the entire list of possible choices.  :spin:
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JoePCool14

Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 28, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 27, 2021, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 27, 2021, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 11:21:56 AM
What information does it convey in error?

What about the title "Erroneous road signs" conveys "incorrect information only"? Many things can be erroneous, not just the accuracy of what the sign tells you.

A design error is indeed erroneous. It's just that on this forum we have created separate threads for different issues on signs. Signs with Design Errors, Redundant Signs, The Worst Of, US/State Shield Mix-ups, The Good, The Bad, the Ugly, etc. Admittedly it's gotten to the point where we all play politics with where a specific sign should go when in the end it probably doesn't matter. And yes, I'm guilty of this too.

I guess signs can qualify for multiple threads. It's just a matter of choosing which one, which may be more difficult for people like me who haven't yet discovered the entire list of possible choices.  :spin:

That's why at one point I suggested pinning the most common of those threads to the top of the board so people would see them more easily. It wouldn't "solve" the problem, but maybe make it a bit better.

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jakeroot

I gave up a long time ago, and just started posting everything in the "Unique -- Good/Bad/Ugly" thread.

kphoger

That is quite a broad title, isn't it?

–  Hey, that's not unique!
–  I know.  It's bad.
–  Yeah, I think it's really ugly.
–  That too.
–  Actually, I like it quite a bit.
–  Well, then, it's good.
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roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/sMz22ndKyYnbtAft8
I-80 east should have its arrow pointing to NJ 53 South.  The entrance ramp for I-80 is near the end of the ramp to the right.
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interstate73

Quote from: roadman65 on May 01, 2021, 11:59:27 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/sMz22ndKyYnbtAft8
I-80 east should have its arrow pointing to NJ 53 South.  The entrance ramp for I-80 is near the end of the ramp to the right.

Ah, one of my favorite stretches of road! Always gets my heart pumping to fight with traffic coming off 80 to get to 53 :D Although maybe they're intentionally directing traffic bound for I-80 East to keep going on 46 and get on 80 at Cherry Hill Road because of the numerous issues (congestion, conflict with local traffic, a blind turn, weaving at both ends, etc) at the 53 South ramp?
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wanderer2575

Quote from: roadman65 on May 01, 2021, 11:59:27 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/sMz22ndKyYnbtAft8
I-80 east should have its arrow pointing to NJ 53 South.  The entrance ramp for I-80 is near the end of the ramp to the right.

Error aside, this illustrates one of my pet peeves:  Posting trailblazer and detour confirmation assemblies just past an exit ramp.  Thanks a heap, folks, I've got no choice but to continue straight at that point.  Posting the trailblazer assembly before the exit to confirm that I should continue straight would actually have been helpful.

mrsman

Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 02, 2021, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 01, 2021, 11:59:27 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/sMz22ndKyYnbtAft8
I-80 east should have its arrow pointing to NJ 53 South.  The entrance ramp for I-80 is near the end of the ramp to the right.

Error aside, this illustrates one of my pet peeves:  Posting trailblazer and detour confirmation assemblies just past an exit ramp.  Thanks a heap, folks, I've got no choice but to continue straight at that point.  Posting the trailblazer assembly before the exit to confirm that I should continue straight would actually have been helpful.

There is a sign over here, only a few feet back:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8925289,-74.480719,3a,75y,138.08h,96.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smSLPUJ4vSEjKgrRhsqQw9w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I think interstate73 has the right explanation.  Yes you can reach I-80 east at this exit, but given the geometries the DOT would prefer that you stay on 46 a little while longer so that you don't create extra congestion at 73.

While the 80 trailblazer is beyond the exit, it isn't drastically so, and it is clear as to how they want you to travel.

If that upsets you, you probably hate the new exit signage in California.  (I do too!)

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0373979,-118.3061824,3a,75y,286.93h,87.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8UUoMWNxjji-BWsuzZFyMw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192



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Quote from: JMoses24 on December 10, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on November 29, 2016, 09:40:56 AM
Saw this one in August on I-35 in Oklahoma, and I'm pretty sure :nod: this is a goof:



Exit 174, I-35 South, Oklahoma

Still there in 2019.

And in 2021... STILL there.

JoePCool14

Quote from: JMoses24 on May 15, 2021, 12:19:29 AM
Quote from: JMoses24 on December 10, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on November 29, 2016, 09:40:56 AM
Saw this one in August on I-35 in Oklahoma, and I'm pretty sure :nod: this is a goof:



Exit 174, I-35 South, Oklahoma

Still there in 2019.

And in 2021... STILL there.

It's Oklahoma... do you really think that will ever get fixed?

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jakeroot

No one's going to fix the sign because no one knows what the problem is. There is nothing erroneous on that sign.

renegade

Quote from: jakeroot on May 16, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
No one's going to fix the sign because no one knows what the problem is. There is nothing erroneous on that sign.
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jakeroot

Quote from: renegade on May 17, 2021, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 16, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
No one's going to fix the sign because no one knows what the problem is. There is nothing erroneous on that sign.
No meat cleaver ?

Lacking the meat cleaver is a design error at best. The information portrayed is still correct: "Highway 51 towards Stillwater or Hennessey, next exit".

Most likely: few if any would notice the lack of the meat cleaver.

TBKS1

This is a really subtle error, and it's one that I didn't notice for quite a while. It is still technically a mixup, although it's definitely not noticeable to almost everybody at first glance.



This was on I-30 near Saltillo, TX. I took this on May 2nd, 2019 so this sign may have been replaced since. This is supposed to be FM 900, not SH 900.
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CoreySamson

Quote from: TBKS1 on May 23, 2021, 07:04:00 PM
This is a really subtle error, and it's one that I didn't notice for quite a while. It is still technically a mixup, although it's definitely not noticeable to almost everybody at first glance.



This was on I-30 near Saltillo, TX. I took this on May 2nd, 2019 so this sign may have been replaced since. This is supposed to be FM 900, not SH 900.
This happens a lot more than you'd think, at least from my experience. One of the few mess-ups TxDOT does a lot.
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Scott5114

Quote from: jakeroot on May 17, 2021, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: renegade on May 17, 2021, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 16, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
No one's going to fix the sign because no one knows what the problem is. There is nothing erroneous on that sign.
No meat cleaver ?

Lacking the meat cleaver is a design error at best. The information portrayed is still correct: "Highway 51 towards Stillwater or Hennessey, next exit".

Most likely: few if any would notice the lack of the meat cleaver.

looks like SOMEONE got sent on an all-expenses-paid-trip to Craig County by ODOT

The centered tab is also wrong.
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LilianaUwU

Neither of those two signs are correct for the road condition.



It should be a D-360 sign.

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TBKS1

I guess I didn't think about it but I could also post this one in here too (taken on October 16th, 2020)



Honestly it's not wrong.
I take pictures of road signs, that's about it.

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hotdogPi

Quote from: TBKS1 on May 24, 2021, 12:20:52 AM
I guess I didn't think about it but I could also post this one in here too (taken on October 16th, 2020)



Honestly it's not wrong.

I don't see the error.
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Scott5114

Quote from: 1 on May 24, 2021, 06:18:24 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 24, 2021, 12:20:52 AM
I guess I didn't think about it but I could also post this one in here too (taken on October 16th, 2020)



Honestly it's not wrong.

I don't see the error.

I-49 is old I-540. They swapped the shield but didn't change the text on the sign.

Though you could theoretically take I-49 south to the remaining section of I-540 in Fort Smith, which is probably dozens of miles away from this sign.
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