I-69 in TX

[Thegeet]

How long will it take upon freeway completion for I-69 to be designated on US 59:

1. From Cleveland to Splendora?
2. Spur 10 to Fort Bend/Wharton county line ?

My guess, with at least the second one, is that given the project is effectively extending from an existing I-69 segment, it would be signed immediately.

A similar project of this nature, the Driscoll Bypass and interstate upgrade between Bishop and Robstown, already has "I-69E"  shields on the new signage, as seen in the above pictures.

In that case, US 59 in Cleveland would be signed Immediately too. And so would Bishop to Kingsville, US 77.

[sprjus4]

^ Not sure how they'll address US-77 south of the official I-69E project near Driscoll, but it could and should be singable as immediately I-69E.

[vdeane]

^ Not sure how they'll address US-77 south of the official I-69E project near Driscoll, but it could and should be singable as immediately I-69E.

Singable?  Like US 31W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNenadZFOoU

[Thegeet]

^ Not sure how they'll address US-77 south of the official I-69E project near Driscoll, but it could and should be singable as immediately I-69E.

Singable?  Like US 31W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNenadZFOoU

XD, yes. But the I-69 anthem would be Summer of "˜69 by Bryan Adams, or better yet, I-69 by Roman GianArthur.

[GreenLanternCorps]

Whiling the updates to I-69E/US-77 at Discroll and I-69/US-59 at FB County is nice and all, but any updates on the direct I-69/US-59 Nacogdoches intersection?

None. But, from May: https://youtu.be/QCBwl8c7DDw

I was looking at that interchange location on Google maps.  They really threaded the needle on that.  It looks like very few properties along US 59 had to be removed for the Future I-69 lanes.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/sonic/@31.5749366,-94.6751594,664m/data=!3m1!1e3

[ethanhopkin14]

^ Not sure how they'll address US-77 south of the official I-69E project near Driscoll, but it could and should be singable as immediately I-69E.

Singable?  Like US 31W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNenadZFOoU

XD, yes. But the I-69 anthem would be Summer of "˜69 by Bryan Adams, or better yet, I-69 by Roman GianArthur.

'Summer of 69E'

[Thegeet]

^ Not sure how they'll address US-77 south of the official I-69E project near Driscoll, but it could and should be singable as immediately I-69E.

Singable?  Like US 31W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNenadZFOoU

XD, yes. But the I-69 anthem would be Summer of "˜69 by Bryan Adams, or better yet, I-69 by Roman GianArthur.

'Summer of 69E'

I guess construction will last forever, forever, no!

P.S. if the infrastructure bill is passed by Congress, will it cover I-69 in any capacity?

[sparker]

^ Not sure how they'll address US-77 south of the official I-69E project near Driscoll, but it could and should be singable as immediately I-69E.

Singable?  Like US 31W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNenadZFOoU

XD, yes. But the I-69 anthem would be Summer of "˜69 by Bryan Adams, or better yet, I-69 by Roman GianArthur.

'Summer of 69E'

I guess construction will last forever, forever, no!

P.S. if the infrastructure bill is passed by Congress, will it cover I-69 in any capacity?

That all depends upon how much influence the rural states have over the language of the final bill.  Chances are that the bill won't cover specific projects, but parse out funds for various road projects over the specified timeframe.  That amount would determine if there's any room for new construction alongside the repairs and maintenance that prompted the legislative activity to begin with.  Once the language of the final/passed version is published, things will become somewhat more clear in this respect.  But unless there's funds specified for particular projects, it'll be business as usual, with state DOT's and the corresponding state delegation lining up to snag funding each fiscal year.  But with earmarks back in the game, enterprising representatives can often get funds directed where they want -- and TX historically hasn't been a slouch with that activity.  But whether that translates into any more activity for the less touted sections of I-69 (read in LA/AR/MS) remains to be seen; those states have generally been less active in such pursuits (or in the case of MS, just unable to come up with their share). 

[Thegeet]

Update: TxDOT has announced they're letting the US 59 frontage rd project contract (From SH 185 to US 87, in Victoria) on their live video today.

[TheBox]

Just sayin this

the population of Brownsville (182,271), McAllen (141,968), Edinburg (95,847), and Harlingen (65,129) combined makes the RGV metroplex have about a population of 485,215+

Add in the population of Mission (83,567) and Pharr (78,073) and you get 646,855+

EDIT: Weslaco (40,464) also makes the RGV metroplex population 687,319+. In comparison Corpus Christi population is 325,780+, even when you add in Robstown (11,400) and Portland (17,025) it only goes as far as 354,205+.

EDIT: And yes, I'm making the RGV metroplex seem bigger than it actually is, like just combine DFW like everyone in their mother nowadays, maybe add in Arlington in there and they'll easily out number the Houston metroplex by a long shot. Just wanted to talk about the population of the RGV, Brownsville does have a population of nearly 200k tho.

[Thegeet]

Just sayin this

the population of Brownsville (182,271), McAllen (141,968), Edinburg (95,847), and Harlingen (65,129) combined makes the RGV metroplex have about a population of 485,215+

Add in the population of Mission (83,567) and Pharr (78,073) and you get 646,855+

EDIT: Weslaco (40,464) also makes the RGV metroplex population 687,319+. In comparison Corpus Christi population is 325,780+, even when you add in Robstown (11,400) and Portland (17,025) it only goes as far as 354,205+.

EDIT: And yes, I'm making the RGV metroplex seem bigger than it actually is, like just combine DFW like everyone in their mother nowadays, maybe add in Arlington in there and they'll easily out number the Houston metroplex by a long shot. Just wanted to talk about the population of the RGV, Brownsville does have a population of nearly 200k tho.

In addition, Laredo metro is 259,172.

[TheBox]

Tyler (104,789), Longview (81,653), and Marshall (23,080) together make 209,522

that is more than Texarkana (66,589), but Shreveport-Bossier City (260,283) still beats them, when also together

[bwana39]

Was this bridge in Jefferson, TX ever going to be on the future I-369 route?  It just got hit by containers off a derailed train:

http://www.ksla.com/story/35834420/hwy-59-shut-down-in-jefferson-tx-after-2-trains-collide

They are almost finished with the final repairs four years later....

[debragga]

Just sayin this

the population of Brownsville (182,271), McAllen (141,968), Edinburg (95,847), and Harlingen (65,129) combined makes the RGV metroplex have about a population of 485,215+

Add in the population of Mission (83,567) and Pharr (78,073) and you get 646,855+

EDIT: Weslaco (40,464) also makes the RGV metroplex population 687,319+. In comparison Corpus Christi population is 325,780+, even when you add in Robstown (11,400) and Portland (17,025) it only goes as far as 354,205+.

EDIT: And yes, I'm making the RGV metroplex seem bigger than it actually is, like just combine DFW like everyone in their mother nowadays, maybe add in Arlington in there and they'll easily out number the Houston metroplex by a long shot. Just wanted to talk about the population of the RGV, Brownsville does have a population of nearly 200k tho.

Forget city limits, there's too many small towns in the area for that. Just combine the populations of Hidalgo/Cameron/Willacy counties and you get nearly 1.2 million.

[O Tamandua]

Just sayin this

the population of Brownsville (182,271), McAllen (141,968), Edinburg (95,847), and Harlingen (65,129) combined makes the RGV metroplex have about a population of 485,215+

Add in the population of Mission (83,567) and Pharr (78,073) and you get 646,855+

EDIT: Weslaco (40,464) also makes the RGV metroplex population 687,319+. In comparison Corpus Christi population is 325,780+, even when you add in Robstown (11,400) and Portland (17,025) it only goes as far as 354,205+.

EDIT: And yes, I'm making the RGV metroplex seem bigger than it actually is, like just combine DFW like everyone in their mother nowadays, maybe add in Arlington in there and they'll easily out number the Houston metroplex by a long shot. Just wanted to talk about the population of the RGV, Brownsville does have a population of nearly 200k tho.

Forget city limits, there's too many small towns in the area for that. Just combine the populations of Hidalgo/Cameron/Willacy counties and you get nearly 1.2 million.

Don't forget Starr County and the cities on the other side of the river from south of Roma, TX east to the Gulf.

[Bobby5280]

There is a hell of a lot of American citizens living in the Rio Grande Valley area of far South Texas. Over 1.2 million people live in the cluster of cities from La Joya on the West end to Brownsville and the Padre Island/Port Isabel area on the East End. That region doesn't get a lot of attention since there is no major stand-out city in that cluster of cities and towns.

Roma, Escobares, Los Alverez, Rio Grande City and Las Lomas make up another cluster of towns. Going farther North towns like Zapata are a little bit more isolated.

Laredo has a 2019 population estimate of over 260,000 residents. Plus it is the busiest non-coastal/inland port of entry in the United States.

All of that adds up to plenty of justification to fully build-out the I-2 corridor all the way to Laredo.

[Thegeet]

There is a hell of a lot of American citizens living in the Rio Grande Valley area of far South Texas. Over 1.2 million people live in the cluster of cities from La Joya on the West end to Brownsville and the Padre Island/Port Isabel area on the East End. That region doesn't get a lot of attention since there is no major stand-out city in that cluster of cities and towns.

Roma, Escobares, Los Alverez, Rio Grande City and Las Lomas make up another cluster of towns. Going farther North towns like Zapata are a little bit more isolated.

Laredo has a 2019 population estimate of over 260,000 residents. Plus it is the busiest non-coastal/inland port of entry in the United States.

All of that adds up to plenty of justification to fully build-out the I-2 corridor all the way to Laredo.

That and the I-69W corridor.

[Thegeet]

Here's a video on the new overpass on US 59 in Victoria. https://youtu.be/5ENMdWbBu6A

[O Tamandua]

Any word on how the Kenedy County part of I-69 upgrading is going?

[CoreySamson]

Any word on how the Kenedy County part of I-69 upgrading is going?

Per GSV the Sarita and Thomas Ranch exits appear to be finished but it looks like no work has taken place on the ranch access roads and crossings.

[Thegeet]

Any word on how the Kenedy County part of I-69 upgrading is going?

Per GSV the Sarita and Thomas Ranch exits appear to be finished but it looks like no work has taken place on the ranch access roads and crossings.

Yturria is finished I think. The rest between there and Riviera will be built by 2035.

[O Tamandua]

Any word on how the Kenedy County part of I-69 upgrading is going?

Per GSV the Sarita and Thomas Ranch exits appear to be finished but it looks like no work has taken place on the ranch access roads and crossings.

Yturria is finished I think. The rest between there and Riviera will be built by 2035.

Thank you both! 

[Thegeet]

Victoria is now sculpting the concrete guards for the median on US 59. They're also redoing a drainage bridge thing to replace the old one. They've got like 4 or 8 concrete cubes left. I've been driving there weekly before college. (Between LP463 and FM1686) TxDOT has authorized the construction of the new turnaround and frontage roads for US 59 between US 87 and SH185. The west 2017 retaining wall on US 87 will be removed. (What a waste!) there will be a soil nail wall built there. New ramps, a new bridge, and new traffic lights will be built.

Any updates on the CC district (US 77) btw?

[yakra]

Trying to figure out what if anything needs to be updated for TravelMapping...

Any word on how the Kenedy County part of I-69 upgrading is going?

Per GSV the Sarita and Thomas Ranch exits appear to be finished but it looks like no work has taken place on the ranch access roads and crossings.

OK, I see Sarita. No signed exit number. Probably no part of I-69E yet, not connecting to the rest of I-69E elsewhere...
An oddity: OSM shows an interchange here, but it looks dubious. The ramps are way too short and way too close to the cross road. Is this legit?

Thomas Ranch, I still see U/C in Sep 2019 imagery. Oh OK, satellite imagery does show it as complete though. OSM shows too, with the NB exit ramp & frontage rd extending a lot farther south that what Google shows. (OSM more recently updated?) Has anybody field checked this, can confirm? Is there an exit number?

Yturria is finished I think. The rest between there and Riviera will be built by 2035.

Anyone seen signage? Is there an exit number, or signed road (or place) name?

OSM shows complete lanes in between the frontage roads halfway across the county.
Remarkable progress -- if it's to be believed. Is this anything more than an OSM editor getting too excited?

How legit is any of this stuff?
Half-interchange, with dodgy-looking geometry again.
This "bridge" looks suspiciously long...
Here's another one
Grade separation, no ramps
Ditto
#3

Is I-69E now signed farther north than the US77 Bus (Raymondville) exit?

Finally, on that note, is Exit 51 still a thing?
Same geometry + one more puzzle piece (new mainlanes) = opposite functionality; an exit becomes an entrance.
It's not the mainline behind the camera & ahead to the left with an exit straight ahead anymore --
It's the frontage road behind the camera & straight ahead, with an entrance ramp bearing off left.
I don't see any slip ramps on OSM or Google Satellite (SB, that is. NB, is this Exit 52?) until... holy cow. North of Yturria. Seriously? You gotta get off that early to take US77 Bus?

[Thegeet]

No exit number for Ytturia exits. Exit 51 is gone.