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Title: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 08, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
Jackie Gleason on the Honeymooners who used to threaten his wife with his fists and making the famous lines "You're going to the moon." 

Ed Asner, as Lou Grant in Mary Tyler Moore, where he told Mary in the pilot episode " Hey Mary you have a nice caboose" meaning he though her ass was hot, as in those days all freight trains used cabooses at the rear of the train.

Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy spanking Lucy.

Those were classic and made TV funny, but with today's worlds standards and the escalation of acts of men toward women being degrading, modern television would not allow this thing as political activists groups would be making headlines and protesting the networks if a show like these were aired today.


Here is another twist All In The Family which allowed for censorship to be relaxed such as allowing phrases "What the Hell" and  allowing the toilet to be mentioned (and heard) plus allowing politics to be talked about on network TV and subjects such as the Vietnam protests and women's lib, along with talking about sexual promiscuous and the related were taboo as Rolling Stones when on the Ed Sullivan Show had to change the lyrics to their hit song Lets Spend The Night Together to  as the hint of sex could not even be mentioned at all originally, would not be allowed in today's world either.

Then look at the Honeymooners again, and What's Happening which used humor derived at poking fun at overweight people.  That is a big no no today.  I do not even think that Good Times or Maude (two more Norman Lear programs) could not be aired today with their controversial themes. 

It seems like slapstick comedy, obese jokes,  funny statements about punching females and commentary are not at all acceptable many decades later.  Any other things about modern television that changed comedy or even drama that can't be aired today?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
Smoking is minimal.

A group of 4 friends has about 78 races and nationalities among them, in order not to offend anyone.

Remember many years ago the biggest issue was glasses?  Usually a group of kids had at least one wearing glasses, so that kids with glasses watching the show would feel like they would fit in.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 08, 2017, 11:12:23 AM
Yes that is a great one.  Smoking!  As previous stars would smoke on camera, nowadays with the clean air act, nobody dares to feature them except when making a point about smoking being bad.

The last shows I remember were back in the 80's. Simon & Simon, where Gerald McRainey lit up smokes while playing Rick Simon was the last of that era with maybe a little spillage into the 90's.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: LM117 on July 08, 2017, 11:54:07 AM
For over-the-air TV, Sanford & Son.

(Warning: NSFW)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQiqvwQ5Xk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQiqvwQ5Xk)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: english si on July 08, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
This segment from the mid-90s on a satire of the news would never get on the BBC today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMdPj3HXMgQ
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 08, 2017, 12:13:57 PM



Flintstones and the Smoking commercials. If this commercial aired today then lawsuits would go off the charts.





If Flintstones did the commercial then it would have a Pepe Frog type fallout here too.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pepe-frog-creator-wants-make-him-symbol-peace-love-n779101


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/3936554/creator-of-pepe-the-frog-white-supremacist-meme-wants-to-reclaim-him-as-universal-symbol-of-peace-and-love/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P39H3YFx_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxuuRv1URE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWLmOdpQW0


Here is the fallout here.



Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 08, 2017, 12:14:27 PM
Old Motorweek episodes reference Asian automakers as "Orientals" which would probably be considered derogatory today.  There are a ton of them on the 70s, 80s, and 90s car thread.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Brian556 on July 08, 2017, 12:34:19 PM
On Married With Children, Al Bundy always made fun of overweight women.

On the first episode of MTV's "The Real World", they featured a gay guy with AIDS, as if to suggest that all or almost all gays had AIDS.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 08, 2017, 03:19:47 PM
People today don't realize that some famous classic cartoons such as Looney Tunes and the Flintstones were not originally intended to be for children/family viewing. It's kind of like the Simpsons and South Parks and Family Guys of today are just the evolution of animation intended for adult viewing that grew out of that era.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SidS1045 on July 08, 2017, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: bing101 on July 08, 2017, 12:13:57 PMFlintstones and the Smoking commercials. If this commercial aired today then lawsuits would go off the charts.

Cigarette commercials were banned on radio and TV by an act of Congress, effective January 2, 1971.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: GaryV on July 08, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
Speedy Gonzales.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on July 08, 2017, 05:06:25 PM
Several years ago, the planned showing of a series of old Charlie Chan movies was cancelled after the network bosses got cold feet over a fear of offending Asians.

:rolleyes:

Also, the old 'I can't believe I ate the whole thing' series of Pepto-Bismol ads, over fear of offending Italians.

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Big John on July 08, 2017, 05:12:51 PM
^^ And it was a flop since people did not remember it was an Alka-Seltzer ad, along with the spicy meatball ad.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: nexus73 on July 08, 2017, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: bing101 on July 08, 2017, 12:13:57 PM



Flintstones and the Smoking commercials. If this commercial aired today then lawsuits would go off the charts.





If Flintstones did the commercial then it would have a Pepe Frog type fallout here too.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pepe-frog-creator-wants-make-him-symbol-peace-love-n779101


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/3936554/creator-of-pepe-the-frog-white-supremacist-meme-wants-to-reclaim-him-as-universal-symbol-of-peace-and-love/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P39H3YFx_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxuuRv1URE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWLmOdpQW0


Here is the fallout here.





Candy cigarettes, remember them?  After TV commercials disappeared with Jan 1, 1971 being the last day, as was mentioned during the Rose Bowl broadcast by NBC (it can be found on Youtube), the advertising had to be sneakier.  When watching a replay of the NFC Championshop game from January 1982 ("The Catch" DAL at SF), one sees a prominent Marlboro billboard in Candlestick Park.  As restrictions on advertising got tighter, point of sale advertising got more emphasis.  Joe Camel and Camelbucks anyone?

Now we have Pepe/Kek and Kekistan.  Shadilay!  As mass media turned into niche markets, so one could make TV shows garnering 1 to 2 percent marketshares a doable proposition, the real mass phenomenon became the meme.  Just like the weather, they're random action elements that can erupt at any time, sweep across the nation and then poof, they're last week's news.  Instead of commercials made by Madison Avenue, now it is whatever bubbles up from the audience that makes the splash!  I find it entertaining.

Rick
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on July 08, 2017, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 08, 2017, 05:12:51 PM
^^ And it was a flop since people did not remember it was an Alka-Seltzer ad, along with the spicy meatball ad.



Sweet & sour snails
Poached oysters
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Desert Man on July 08, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
Ethnic, racial and cultural stereotypes on commercials, comedies and cartoons are NOT acceptable in today's societal norms, esp. we became opposing of racism, as well sexism, anti-semitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, classism, ableism and ageism. Either this attitude started in the 1930s by the MPAA banned defamatory imagery of groups of people in film, the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s and PCness was a 1990s trend.

3 examples are the Alka-Seltzer ad from 1969 features an Italian-American family, actors in a commercial take set, the 1966 ad of Mountain Dew features poor whites or hillbillies with the commercial version of the soft drink, and the 1970 Fritos ad starring their retired Mexican character the Frito Bandito. (all can be found on Youtube).

My wife, who's of Mexican (technically Spanish and Apache), Italian and Filipino descent doesn't take offense from these commercials. I'm of half-French/Flemish, Scottish, German and Cherokee Indian descent. I've seen western movies portray Native Americans as savages and a movie character Detective Clouseau of the Pink Panther anthology played by Peter Sellers received negative attention in France for being a very "crude" French stereotype.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 08, 2017, 08:21:14 PM
Some violence scenes from Captain Scarlet & the Mysterons, it was a kid show then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azr1jVw8wjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FTdS5IglLg

And stuff we saw in the 1967-70 Spider-man cartoon who wouldn't be made today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMdh4DkslVk

The 1980s classic kids show You Can't Do that on Television is perfectly named, I doubt we could do the same kinds of skits today.
https://youtu.be/cctW1OCB3P8
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bandit957 on July 08, 2017, 08:39:55 PM
A lot of stuff went right past the censors. There was an episode of 'CHiPs' where Erik Estrada made a big deal about the number 69, and the censors didn't catch it.

Around the same time, there was a set of episodes on 'Sesame Street' where several of the characters flew to Hawaii. The scene where Oscar the Grouch tries to take his trash can through the metal detector is full of very subtle adult jokes.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on July 08, 2017, 09:13:39 PM
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Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 08, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 08, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
Speedy Gonzales.

Ironically, IIRC, Mexicans actually love that character.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on July 08, 2017, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 08, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 08, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
Speedy Gonzales.

Ironically, IIRC, Mexicans actually love that character.

"Hey, Rosita come quick
Down at the cantina they giving green stamps with tequila!!"



Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: 1995hoo on July 08, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
http://youtu.be/BJP5f-fsHrs
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Duke87 on July 09, 2017, 12:04:04 AM
Doug Funnie having a best friend nicknamed "Skeet". Though, this one is not a case of changing standards - the show predates the existence of the current slang term "skeet" and it's entirely a coincidence.


A movie, not a TV show, but the whole sequence with the Indian tribe in Peter Pan would never fly today.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bandit957 on July 09, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
When I was growing up, because of the Calgon commersh, every time someone said that "we need more" anything, someone would always say, "Ancient Chinese secret, huh?"

"We need more Froot Loops!"

"Ancient Chinese secret, huh?"
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bandit957 on July 09, 2017, 12:18:55 AM
One thing you never see on TV anymore is commercials for bubble gum. I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 09, 2017, 12:44:52 AM
See how Camels agree with your throat:



And two just for me....which you'll never see again:



Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 09, 2017, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 08, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 08, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
Speedy Gonzales.

Ironically, IIRC, Mexicans actually love that character.

Much of the time, it's a very small subset of a culture that gets upset about something. They contact the media; the media does a story about how upset these people are, and eventually someone decides to apologize or change a law or whatever.

In many cases, if you take a careful look at the news story, the protesters may number in the teens or twenties. Careful editing will make it appear that the screen is full of protesters. But you continuously see the same people over and over again.  Most people aren't offended, and the results of the protest make it worse for them rather than helping.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on July 09, 2017, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on July 09, 2017, 12:18:55 AM
One thing you never see on TV anymore is commercials for bubble gum. I have no idea why.

Not even Saturday AM cartoons?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SP Cook on July 09, 2017, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2017, 08:58:57 AM

Not even Saturday AM cartoons?

Those are gone too.   The FCC came up with a rule about educational content and the networks had to swap the cartoons out for cheaply made nature shows. 
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: The Nature Boy on July 09, 2017, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on July 09, 2017, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2017, 08:58:57 AM

Not even Saturday AM cartoons?

Those are gone too.   The FCC came up with a rule about educational content and the networks had to swap the cartoons out for cheaply made nature shows.

It's actually worse than that.

Congress came up with the rule, the FCC didn't enforce it very well for 6 years, and then they were pressured by Congress to do something. If the FCC had come up with it, it could be repealed relatively easy but getting rid of the E/I requirement is going to take an act of Congress now.

It's a shame because Congress basically killed the tradition of Saturday morning cartoons.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on July 09, 2017, 09:37:24 AM
I was watching an episode of Johnny Carson on TV last night from 1974, and Ed McMahon was mentioning a fundraiser he was going to attend to benefit "retarded" children.

Now the PC term is "mentally challenged".
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: LM117 on July 09, 2017, 11:49:16 AM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on July 09, 2017, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on July 09, 2017, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2017, 08:58:57 AM

Not even Saturday AM cartoons?

Those are gone too.   The FCC came up with a rule about educational content and the networks had to swap the cartoons out for cheaply made nature shows.

It's actually worse than that.

Congress came up with the rule, the FCC didn't enforce it very well for 6 years, and then they were pressured by Congress to do something. If the FCC had come up with it, it could be repealed relatively easy but getting rid of the E/I requirement is going to take an act of Congress now.

It's a shame because Congress basically killed the tradition of Saturday morning cartoons.

Congress fucking things up...what else is new? :meh:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: 1995hoo on July 09, 2017, 12:56:56 PM
Here's an old favorite from the DC area. I'm sure they'd never allow the two kids at the end today because they'd call it stereotypical.

If the singer's voice sounds familiar, that's because it's Nils Lofgren.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7PEMGuA6tw
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 09, 2017, 01:52:17 PM
Any Tex Avery cartoon would had triggered the various Peggy Charen and others trigglypuffs.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4832ax_batty-baseball-1944_fun
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: I-39 on July 09, 2017, 05:40:03 PM
Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network would never be allowed today. That should had a mild edginess to it and people are too sensitive these days.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 09, 2017, 06:31:48 PM
I couldn't resist to post this one. ^^;   We won't see "real news" on CNN anymore with all the #CNNBlackmail and #CNNmemewars happening.  :pan:

But we could still watch various Downfall parodies clips on Youtube/Dailymotion/Vimeo/etc.... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWKgZv7CXD8
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 09, 2017, 07:35:33 PM
We don't see a scene like that often in any recent Disney toons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuclnKHE12A
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 09, 2017, 07:52:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VApZrgriw_8


The TV edition of Ghostbusters. I don't think the part of Slimer kissing the front desk lady would work in 2017. Certain people will find that offensive though.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 09, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Bogeyman_Is_Back.

That episode storyline cannot be done anymore due to the sensitivity of the post 9/11 fallout.




Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: GCrites on July 09, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on July 09, 2017, 07:35:33 PM
We don't see a scene like that often in any recent Disney toons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuclnKHE12A

I seem to recall Baloo drinking at Louie's before flying fairly often.

The Duke Boys definitely were seen drinking beer at the Boar's Nest then hopping in the General if they had to chase someone.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on July 09, 2017, 10:47:39 PM
Pretty much this whole skit. Especially the line "well today you're not gay, but one day you wake up, you like men, Gerald Ford dies and we're screwed!" and the Zimbabwe part.
https://youtu.be/fvQKH1O4Hkw
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:17 PM
There was a (classic) Hawaii Five-O that was only seen once.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: okc1 on July 10, 2017, 09:09:33 AM
I suspect Quick Draw McGraw, Yosemite Sam, and other cartoon characters using guns casually were pulled for fear kids would copy them.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: 21stCenturyRoad on July 10, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Anything by Archie Bunker
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SP Cook on July 10, 2017, 10:42:36 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:17 PM
There was a (classic) Hawaii Five-O that was only seen once.

Really?  Details?

I do know that I Love Lucy had probably the first use of what became a sit-com standard of a Christmas Carol with Fred as Scrooge, but appartently is was so unfunny and mean spirited that it was never rerun and not included in the syndication until being "found" (it really was not lost) and released in the early 90s.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on July 10, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on July 10, 2017, 10:42:36 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:17 PM
There was a (classic) Hawaii Five-O that was only seen once.

Really?  Details?


Per Wikipedia: "Bored, She Hung Herself", the 16th episode of the second season, depicted a Five-O investigation into the apparent suicide of a woman by hanging, which she was supposedly practicing as part of a health regimen. A viewer reportedly died trying the same technique, and as a result, the episode was not rebroadcast, was never included in any syndication packages, and has not been included on any DVD release of the show to date
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: vdeane on July 10, 2017, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
Per Wikipedia: "Bored, She Hung Herself", the 16th episode of the second season, depicted a Five-O investigation into the apparent suicide of a woman by hanging, which she was supposedly practicing as part of a health regimen. A viewer reportedly died trying the same technique, and as a result, the episode was not rebroadcast, was never included in any syndication packages, and has not been included on any DVD release of the show to date
Sounds like the Porygon episode of the Pokemon anime.  The episode included rapidly flashing colors that gave kids seizures; the dubbing company was prepared to edit the video to fix it, but instead the episode received an international ban and will never be seen again.

Speaking of anime, content standards in Japan have gotten stricter in recent years, so even some 90s anime/manga like Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura could not be produced today, which has actually affected recent releases; Sailor Moon Crystal had to edit out the nightmare fuel to make the monsters less scary, and the new arc of Cardcaptor Sakura actually has one of the minor characters written out entirely.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 10, 2017, 05:16:37 PM
No one would use a revolver-telephone like Cool McCool anymore.
https://youtu.be/P-uRt5tgqgc?t=3m15s
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 10, 2017, 06:12:18 PM
Quote from: 21stCenturyRoad on July 10, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Anything by Archie Bunker


Anything by Bill Cosby will not be allowed on TV today for pretty obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 10, 2017, 06:17:49 PM



If you are from Los Angeles You remember the Wally George show. This person would not be on local TV today. If Wally George was done today then it would be on national news every night like any rant the president makes on Twitter.








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9BVvmE1a8g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPWQ4oVP-3Q


If Morton Downey did his show today then it would be a battle on Cable News over the presidents connections to two talk show host in question both Wally George and Morton Downey and it becomes a cabinet scandal.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 10, 2017, 07:18:02 PM
The 1983 Inspector Gadget cartoon showed her niece Penny in various perils and often being the damsel in distress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJm5WVYIMNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_43asAIAA
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 11, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 09, 2017, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 08, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 08, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
Speedy Gonzales.

Ironically, IIRC, Mexicans actually love that character.

Much of the time, it's a very small subset of a culture that gets upset about something. They contact the media; the media does a story about how upset these people are, and eventually someone decides to apologize or change a law or whatever.

In many cases, if you take a careful look at the news story, the protesters may number in the teens or twenties. Careful editing will make it appear that the screen is full of protesters. But you continuously see the same people over and over again.  Most people aren't offended, and the results of the protest make it worse for them rather than helping.
Also to note the same was done with the baseball strike a long while ago.  The media reported how disappointed fans wanted scabs to be hired to play ball while the regular players whined and boycotted playing to have game being played.  However, once replacement players started playing then the same media reported how the fans were not going to watch the game until the real players came back.    As illogical as that sounds, it really is logical because the media in both reports interviewed a different set of fans, but in both cases made it sound like it was the majority both times.

Yes the media can make a few people look like a majority.   That is why we have so many political wars today, as because one newsworthy event in one state's community goes viral it makes one think that the majority is that way when it just a small bunch of people in one corner of the US actually feeling what is being reported.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 11, 2017, 09:28:15 AM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on July 10, 2017, 07:18:02 PM
The 1983 Inspector Gadget cartoon showed her niece Penny in various perils and often being the damsel in distress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJm5WVYIMNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_43asAIAA

I thought Penny and Brian more often than not were the one bailing Gadget out because he was an idiot?  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Henry on July 11, 2017, 10:04:01 AM
Anything with Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner, particularly because the former always gets blown up or falls off a cliff in his attempts to catch the latter. Although, during the one time when he actually succeeds, he holds up a sign saying I FINALLY CAUGHT HIM...NOW WHAT DO I DO? or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kurumi on July 11, 2017, 12:02:42 PM
"They'll never let us show that one again -- not in a million years!"

https://youtu.be/WgMrToJvZwg?t=3m23s

(jump to 3:20; apparently cannot embed a link with a timestamp)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: PHLBOS on July 11, 2017, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 08, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
http://youtu.be/BJP5f-fsHrs
Believe it or not, that exact commercial was still being shown (though not as frequently) some 15 to 20 years after its initial airing.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: hm insulators on July 12, 2017, 02:00:38 PM
Underoos! Remember when Underoos came out in the late '70s? Numerous ads on Saturday morning TV featuring children of about nine or ten wearing Underoos dancing, prancing and singing about the advertised product. A pedophile's wet dream come true. Won't ever see that again today!
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Big John on July 12, 2017, 02:22:02 PM
SNL skit that aired only once since it took potshots at the parent company: https://vimeo.com/34419805
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bandit957 on July 12, 2017, 02:47:20 PM
If the networks had any sense, they'd boycott scab baseball games.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SectorZ on July 12, 2017, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on July 12, 2017, 02:47:20 PM
If the networks had any sense, they'd boycott scab baseball games.

Scab games? Like games with non-union players? I mean, we haven't replacement players in a strike in baseball, well, ever (expect for spring training in 1995 - not real baseball).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 12, 2017, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 11, 2017, 09:28:15 AM

I thought Penny and Brian more often than not were the one bailing Gadget out because he was an idiot?  :eyebrow:

There's that but there's more from what I saw on a website called TVTropes.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 12, 2017, 10:22:26 PM
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/340542-john-oliver-roasts-sinclair-medias-conservative-slant


http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/sinclair-boris-epshteyn-increase-segments-donald-trump-1202490923/


http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ/20170705/NEWS/170709951


How about the fact that Sinclair owns the most TV stations around the USA.  Note lots of stuff may not appear on TV today due to how powerful Sinclair TV leaders are.


http://www.politico.com/media/tipsheets/morning-media/2017/07/10/sinclair-triples-down-on-boris-russian-runaround-newspapers-team-up-to-take-on-google-facebook-001306
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on July 12, 2017, 10:48:31 PM
Mr. Magoo.

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 12, 2017, 11:19:04 PM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/A-pair-of-decades-old-policies-may-change-the-way-11246082.php (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/A-pair-of-decades-old-policies-may-change-the-way-11246082.php)


http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/local-tv/tegna-mum-nexstar-merger-keen-growth/166121 (http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/local-tv/tegna-mum-nexstar-merger-keen-growth/166121)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc

SOme articles about Nexstar and Sinclair will determine how certain TV content will be handled in some parts of the nation.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 16, 2017, 08:44:05 PM
Does anyone date on TV shows anymore having platonic relationships?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on July 17, 2017, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.
Jet Airliner was censored, Money wasn't.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on July 17, 2017, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 17, 2017, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.
Jet Airliner was censored, Money wasn't.

Many radio stations did censor Money, too.

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: capt.ron on July 17, 2017, 02:21:06 PM
Beavis and Butthead (early 1990's episodes).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on July 17, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.

I thought the edited version of "Jet Airliner" said "Funky Kicks going down in the city"???
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cjk374 on July 17, 2017, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 17, 2017, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 17, 2017, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.
Jet Airliner was censored, Money wasn't.

Many radio stations did censor Money, too.

Mike

I hear the unedited versions of Money, Jet Airliner, & $$ for Nothing on my radio TODAY.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: dvferyance on July 17, 2017, 06:38:23 PM
Mr Haney used the W word which refers to an illegal immigrant on Green Acres. I believe Mr Kimball also used that same word on the show. That was back in 1965 would never be allowed on TV today.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 17, 2017, 09:32:45 PM
Money for Nothing got the F word deleted in some stations. I believe that was originally a crack toward George Michael's sexuality in its video. Now it would be controversial to use it of course.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jp the roadgeek on July 17, 2017, 09:36:43 PM
I remember when MTV and VH-1 used to edit Tom Petty's You Don't Know How it Feels video and the line "Let's roll another joint" to make joint sound like "tnioj".   
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 17, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
Pissed off could not be said and since the 90s it was even said on Law and Order by Benjamin Bratt in one of his episodes he starred in.

Also the classification of Black can't be used anymore thanks to two nameless phony reverends who say its politically incorrect and racist even though many Africans I know, who are very pro Obama and anti Trump have no issues being called Blacks whatsoever.

However TV must comply with the same brass who owns the news.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on July 17, 2017, 11:22:03 PM
What really bugs me (no pun intended) is that all of these Bible-Thumpin' TV watchdogs who thought a kid was gonna turn into a criminal by watching "violent" Bugs Bunny/Road Runner/Tom & Jerry cartoons.  Yet I don't know of too many murderers (etal) said they got their ideas from watching Saturday Morning Cartoons.

These TV policing groups got all these cartoons edited or banned, yet the real problem at that time (and still is to a degree) was the Music/MTV videos of gansta rappers, Madonna-ish slut puppies, and violent video games (that put "firepower" into their hands) which corrupted the young minds and bred future criminals far more than animation ever did. 

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on July 18, 2017, 12:37:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6uKOS3S2E


Well Mark Hyman would do well in some states but not in my area though.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Henry on July 18, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 17, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.

I thought the edited version of "Jet Airliner" said "Funky Kicks going down in the city"???
You're exactly right; I momentarily forgot what it said, probably because it's been a while since the last time I heard it.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: spooky on July 18, 2017, 11:00:16 AM
Law&Order (both the original and SVU) have instances where the f-word (the gay slur, not the one for fornication) is used. Both shows are re-run on several networks; some censor the word, some do not.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Desert Man on July 18, 2017, 12:39:55 PM
Both TV and radio are subject to content regulations, standards and practices. Avoidance of graphic, controversial, non-kid-friendly, offensive, sensitive and "taboo" subjects is the norm. With PC-ness, the term "ghetto" like "that's so gay", "retarded", "redneck" and "illegals" are deemed hate speech of some kind. Like this song from the 1970s, the world is a a ghetto by the multiracial band War - white, black, Latino and Native American members.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKMdmPBWRk
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: english si on July 18, 2017, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM3 instances of the British word for cigarette.
You mean bundle of sticks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)), or ball of offal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)).

The word for cigarettes only has the first three letters.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 18, 2017, 08:01:17 PM
Quote from: Desert Man on July 18, 2017, 12:39:55 PM
Both TV and radio are subject to content regulations, standards and practices. Avoidance of graphic, controversial, non-kid-friendly, offensive, sensitive and "taboo" subjects is the norm. With PC-ness, the term "ghetto" like "that's so gay", "retarded", "redneck" and "illegals" are deemed hate speech of some kind. Like this song from the 1970s, the world is a a ghetto by the multiracial band War - white, black, Latino and Native American members.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKMdmPBWRk
Good Times used ghetto alot. That was a social class sitcom of the 70s that had a African American ensemble too.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Big John on July 18, 2017, 08:06:03 PM
Even Elvis sang In the Ghetto:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jp the roadgeek on July 18, 2017, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 18, 2017, 08:06:03 PM
Even Elvis sang In the Ghetto:


So did Cartman

https://youtu.be/YpufzJNrZ2Y
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on July 18, 2017, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 18, 2017, 08:06:03 PM
Even Elvis sang In the Ghetto:



And his mother cried...
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: OracleUsr on July 19, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Speaking of radio cuts, does any radio station play the full version of "Killing in the Name of" or "The Bartender Song" with the original lyrics?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2017, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: english si on July 18, 2017, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM3 instances of the British word for cigarette.
You mean bundle of sticks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)), or ball of offal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)).

The word for cigarettes only has the first three letters.

I recall Mr Brains (http://mrbrains.co.uk) were fighting with Facebook because the latter would not allow them to refer to their product by name.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Henry on July 21, 2017, 09:45:57 AM
Many Mike & Molly reruns (mostly from the earlier seasons) censor certain offensive words (such as bitch, getting laid and masturbation) with ellipses in their captioning. Similarly, NYPD Blue does the same thing with a series of X's along with the audible muting out of the word.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: tchafe1978 on July 21, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: OracleUsr on July 19, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Speaking of radio cuts, does any radio station play the full version of "Killing in the Name of" or "The Bartender Song" with the original lyrics?
I've heard Killing In the Name on radio both with the final verse completely cut out and with the final verse included the the F word cut. But it's been awhile since I've heard the latter version.

LGL56VL

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 21, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
I don't think this movie would had been made today. O_o You can be sure then lots of trigglypuffs and snowflakes will do a big uproar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSrGWUyMuI

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Desert Man on July 21, 2017, 08:23:28 PM
In 2017, American TV tolerates two animated sitcoms (FOX's Family Guy and Comedy Central's South Park) are full of racist, anti-semitic, sexist and homophobic jokes, references to welfare poor people and "cripples" (the physically disabled), and crude, juvenile, toilet and shock humor. Imagine as recently as 20-25 years ago, the FCC wouldn't allow MTV's Beavis and Butthead known for the character's criminality, and FOX's the Simpsons which has dark, negative and pessimistic satire, to get away with much gross or un-PC material on the air or advertisers dare to sponsor these comedies. 
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: GCrites on July 23, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: english si on July 18, 2017, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM3 instances of the British word for cigarette.
You mean bundle of sticks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)), or ball of offal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)).

The word for cigarettes only has the first three letters.


OK, do British people really call cigarettes "biscuits" or is that just something they tell Americans because we don't know they're taking the piss?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on July 23, 2017, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: GCrites80s on July 23, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: english si on July 18, 2017, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM3 instances of the British word for cigarette.
You mean bundle of sticks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)), or ball of offal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)).

The word for cigarettes only has the first three letters.


OK, do British people really call cigarettes "bundles of sticks" or is that just something they tell Americans because we don't know they're taking the piss?
They really do.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
In 1985 when Rodney Dangerfield came out in Back To School, he made that appearance walking across the school campus wearing a bathrobe over his swim suit claiming he did not like to change clothes in front of other guys for fear of being pinned to a guy name Steve. 

Now to feature that in film would be considered a homophobic remark and would not even be at all as humorous as jokes about the alternative lifestyles used to be.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: PHLBOS on July 25, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
7-word catchphrase from one particular Seinfeld episode: "Not that there's anything WRONG with that!"
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on August 23, 2017, 10:04:10 PM
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on August 24, 2017, 10:31:09 AM
R. Budd Dwyer's public suicide being broadcast uncensored.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: nexus73 on August 24, 2017, 12:15:07 PM
"Johnny Quest" lasted one season.  It was cancelled for being too violent.  Even "Old TV" from the Sixties had its limits.  The Smothers Brothers got KO'ed by social conservative PC types.  Oh well, we did get "Laugh-In", which set the table nicely for the original SNL. 

"South Park" surprises me by hanging in there during these oh-so-PC times. 

Rick
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Desert Man on August 24, 2017, 01:11:15 PM
600th registered post, 100th post on this thread.

I seriously doubt America will go back to the 1950s puritan, prudish or "proper" TV  standards, because if we did that, shows won't allow female characters to say they're "pregnant" if they really are (written into the show script) or couples will sleep in separate beds.  I'm convinced All in the Family of the 1970s became banned TV network material by the 1990s, so don't expect a reboot of the Bunkers. In the 2000s, the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake Super Bowl 38 scandal on global live TV made the FCC crack-down on any indecent material not seen since the 1960s. Ironically in the 1980s, there were subjects children didn't know about like pregnancy (I was age 9 when I found out where babies came from...technically not completely, just saw a teacher pregnant on campus).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...

For all the "they couldn't get away with that today" talk, things like bloodshed, farting, explicit language, and penis-size innuendos wouldn't have been allowed on network TV 25-30 years ago.

Funny how it all balances out.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on August 24, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...

For all the "they couldn't get away with that today" talk, things like bloodshed, farting, explicit language, and penis-size innuendos wouldn't have been allowed on network TV 25-30 years ago.

Funny how it all balances out.

"Network" TV, not much.  Cable/Satellite push the envelope much further.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 24, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...

For all the "they couldn't get away with that today" talk, things like bloodshed, farting, explicit language, and penis-size innuendos wouldn't have been allowed on network TV 25-30 years ago.

Funny how it all balances out.

"Network" TV, not much.  Cable/Satellite push the envelope much further.

I saw enough as a nine-year-old on HBO (and sometimes on the scrambled channels) to be sure to say "network."
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: CapeCodder on August 24, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 17, 2017, 09:36:43 PM
I remember when MTV and VH-1 used to edit Tom Petty's You Don't Know How it Feels video and the line "Let's roll another joint" to make joint sound like "tnioj".

I remember that. I would ask my mom what a tnioj was. She'd get all flustered. Granted I was 5 at the time. My mom let me watch MTV by then (yeah, she wasn't exactly the most thoughtful mother.)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: vdeane on August 24, 2017, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...
What about a penguin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyFxXdqtGNk
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: davewiecking on August 24, 2017, 08:14:54 PM
What's that penguin doing there?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on August 24, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
(https://img0.etsystatic.com/070/0/5175241/il_fullxfull.813350802_66k6.jpg)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on August 24, 2017, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 24, 2017, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...
What about a penguin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyFxXdqtGNk

Also cats.

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on August 24, 2017, 09:50:39 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 24, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...

For all the "they couldn't get away with that today" talk, things like bloodshed, farting, explicit language, and penis-size innuendos wouldn't have been allowed on network TV 25-30 years ago.

Funny how it all balances out.

"Network" TV, not much.  Cable/Satellite push the envelope much further.

Obviously, you haven't seen Family Feud over the last 5 years.  Pretty much every other survey has "penis" as an answer, or some sort of crude humor answer.  Sad part of it all is this is why you can find episodes and reruns of Steve Harvey hosted episodes for no less than 8 hours a day across local TV and cable channels.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on August 24, 2017, 09:54:18 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 24, 2017, 09:50:39 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 24, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...

For all the "they couldn't get away with that today" talk, things like bloodshed, farting, explicit language, and penis-size innuendos wouldn't have been allowed on network TV 25-30 years ago.

Funny how it all balances out.

"Network" TV, not much.  Cable/Satellite push the envelope much further.

Obviously, you haven't seen Family Feud over the last 5 years.  Pretty much every other survey has "penis" as an answer, or some sort of crude humor answer.  Sad part of it all is this is why you can find episodes and reruns of Steve Harvey hosted episodes for no less than 8 hours a day across local TV and cable channels.

IMO, they killed Feud.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Desert Man on August 27, 2017, 12:00:31 PM
TV shows or cartoons will not mock or make fun of people with disabilities, like Mr Magoo (blind) or Porky Pig (stuttering). Now we have sitcoms and dramas feature people with disabilities like Speechless - named for a character, a teenager in a wheelchair unable to speak, and the Good Doctor (coming this fall) - the main character has autism. At least they don't degrade or insult, they feature the disabled as everyday, ordinary people.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on August 27, 2017, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: Desert Man on August 27, 2017, 12:00:31 PM
TV shows or cartoons will not mock or make fun of people with disabilities, like Mr Magoo (blind) or Porky Pig (stuttering).


Barry Kripke says, "Hewwo"

(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.wBZ6yO0nXvq6_aWqsg-gPgEsCo&pid=15.1&P=0&w=315&h=178)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on August 27, 2017, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: Desert Man on August 24, 2017, 01:11:15 PM
  I'm convinced All in the Family of the 1970s became banned TV network material by the 1990s, so don't expect a reboot of the Bunkers.

It reminds me of a MAD-tv skit aired in 2001 just before Carroll O'Connor passed away about what if "All in the Family" was revived in the 2000s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZsHHwBgPlI
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: english si on August 27, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: Desert Man on July 21, 2017, 08:23:28 PMIn 2017, American TV tolerates two animated sitcoms (FOX's Family Guy and Comedy Central's South Park) are full of racist, anti-semitic, sexist and homophobic jokes, references to welfare poor people and "cripples" (the physically disabled), and crude, juvenile, toilet and shock humor.
South Park doesn't treat the racism, etc as laudable - unlike the Family Guy manatees they call out Cartman (and others - basically everyone, but it's normally Cartman) on their awfulness rather than basically shout "isn't racism funny" as those manatees do when they put the jokes into Family Guy. Family Guy is garbage and Seth McFarland hates it and wants to end it and it seems crossing the line into unfunny toxicity has done nothing to tank the show in the network's eyes.

South Park hates political correctness (and really hates censorship), but sees people being dicks as not noble either. Family Guy just wants to be awful.
QuoteImagine as recently as 20-25 years ago, the FCC wouldn't allow MTV's Beavis and Butthead known for the character's criminality, and FOX's the Simpsons which has dark, negative and pessimistic satire, to get away with much gross or un-PC material on the air or advertisers dare to sponsor these comedies.
But Comedy Central could get away with South Park being far more immature 20 years ago - it derived its humor from crude and vulgar things, rather than making fun of such things as it does now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKGEjBMd9Zk
Quote from: GCrites80s on July 23, 2017, 05:40:15 PMOK, do British people really call cigarettes "bundles of sticks" or is that just something they tell Americans because we don't know they're taking the piss?
No - 'bundles of sticks' are daggots, cigarettes are 'dags'. Oh, my dinger has slipped, but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: OracleUsr on August 27, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
I remember a Tex Avery cartoon (I think it was Tex Avery) where you had George and Junior (first strike, throwback to Of Mice and Men) out hunting and everytime Junior screwed up he had to bend over (!!!!) to be kicked in the rear.  Well, one time, George was setting up a dynamite trap (!!!!) which Junior accidentally set off in his face.  When the smoke cleared George was in blackface and he looks up at Junior and in a good imitation of Rochester from the Jack Benny Show, "OKAY JUNIOR BEND OVER"
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cjk374 on August 27, 2017, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: OracleUsr on August 27, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
I remember a Tex Avery cartoon (I think it was Tex Avery) where you had George and Junior (first strike, throwback to Of Mice and Men) out hunting and everytime Junior screwed up he had to bend over (!!!!) to be kicked in the rear.  Well, one time, George was setting up a dynamite trap (!!!!) which Junior accidentally set off in his face.  When the smoke cleared George was in blackface and he looks up at Junior and in a good imitation of Rochester from the Jack Benny Show, "OKAY JUNIOR BEND OVER"

Half the time anything blew up on "Tom &Jerry" someone was going to come out of it in black face, maybe even with a bone in either their nose or hair. Also on "Tom & Jerry": Tom's owner (in the older episodes) spoke fluent black dialect. Those same episodes, when they air on TV now, now have another woman's voice that is free of dialect.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: 1995hoo on August 27, 2017, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Desert Man on August 27, 2017, 12:00:31 PM
TV shows or cartoons will not mock or make fun of people with disabilities, like Mr Magoo (blind) or Porky Pig (stuttering). Now we have sitcoms and dramas feature people with disabilities like Speechless - named for a character, a teenager in a wheelchair unable to speak, and the Good Doctor (coming this fall) - the main character has autism. At least they don't degrade or insult, they feature the disabled as everyday, ordinary people.

When we visited relatives in Florida last month, one of their kids had on some sort of kids' channel (I have no idea what one) and we were struck by the artificial efforts to work so-called "diversity" (as in racial) into the shows wherever possible.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on August 28, 2017, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 27, 2017, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: OracleUsr on August 27, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
I remember a Tex Avery cartoon (I think it was Tex Avery) where you had George and Junior (first strike, throwback to Of Mice and Men) out hunting and everytime Junior screwed up he had to bend over (!!!!) to be kicked in the rear.  Well, one time, George was setting up a dynamite trap (!!!!) which Junior accidentally set off in his face.  When the smoke cleared George was in blackface and he looks up at Junior and in a good imitation of Rochester from the Jack Benny Show, "OKAY JUNIOR BEND OVER"

Half the time anything blew up on "Tom &Jerry" someone was going to come out of it in black face, maybe even with a bone in either their nose or hair. Also on "Tom & Jerry": Tom's owner (in the older episodes) spoke fluent black dialect. Those same episodes, when they air on TV now, now have another woman's voice that is free of dialect.
The Roadrunner is more of a classic example as all the traps set for the Roadrunner always ended up being used on Wile E. Coyote and thus never dying from that same device that was to kill the roadrunner.

Yet in one episode Wile E. Coyote did die from a rocket that went into space only to be seen again in the next cartoon anyway.  Although each individual cartoon is to be self contained anyway, but that is the fiction of TV.

As far as All In The Family goes despite all of its humor not being friendly for today's TV, it was the one that busted through the censorship barrier as before that show politics and even the infamous toilet flush were not allowed on TV before that as even the Brady Bunch had a toilet less bathroom in the show. 


Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: noelbotevera on August 28, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
If anybody has seen the 1990-1991 series of Twin Peaks, there's a lot of stuff that'd never be allowed today on that show.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: tchafe1978 on August 29, 2017, 04:36:24 AM
I don't get where people say there is all this stuff that would never be allowed on TV today. Must be people thinking we've gone too politically correct or something. Because have you ever seen The Walking Dead? All sorts of blood, guts, gore and swearing on that show. Granted it's on cable and not "network TV", but it's not on HBO either.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on August 29, 2017, 05:57:24 AM
It all is about political stuff not the gore.   For example watch the Honeymooners, an old sitcom starring Jackie Gleason aired in the mid 50's, and you will see the humor on that show featured Ralph Kramden who was a hot head and loved to threaten his wife by sending her to the moon.   Although we as the viewers always knew he would never physically hurt her as he loved her deeply, it was funny to see him raise his fist to her face and even sometimes use the catchphrase " Bang Zoom" and then use his hands to show the audience that he was sending her flying through the air (presumably to the moon).  Now of course that would be not allowed as that would be considered offensive to many and considered as promoting violence.

All In The Family would not be allowed today as the remarks on the show made by key character Archie Bunker would be considered advocating racism despite at the time of its viewing it was considered by many blacks and other minorities to be a milestone as it brought out subjects that the original TV networks would never allow to be used as topics for any TV show.  Many praised creator Norman Lear, even Star Trek's LeVar Burton, for bringing sex and racism controversy out into the open and ending the rural purge that CBS once had only promoting old fashioned conservative ideals.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 29, 2017, 06:12:11 AM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on August 29, 2017, 04:36:24 AM
I don't get where people say there is all this stuff that would never be allowed on TV today. Must be people thinking we've gone too politically correct or something. Because have you ever seen The Walking Dead? All sorts of blood, guts, gore and swearing on that show. Granted it's on cable and not "network TV", but it's not on HBO either.

Cable is not regulated like over-the-air channels such as ABC/NBC.  They fall into a grey area where they could do more than over-the-air channels, but less than pay-tv channels.  Those rules have seemingly been relaxed.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on August 29, 2017, 10:05:06 AM
I remember a few years ago when a cable TV network (I forget offhand which one) was planning a Charlie Chan movie festival.  Fantastic series of mystery movies from the earliest days of TV and before.

Yep, the PC Police shot it down.

:banghead:

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bandit957 on August 29, 2017, 10:06:05 AM
People blowing a bubble on TV usually isn't allowed these days, for fear it might promote tooth decay.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SP Cook on August 29, 2017, 01:15:29 PM
The point of All In The Family was totally different.  The creators made up an unrealistic characture of what was then called Nixon's "silent majority" and then exposed him and his supporting cast to sounds true but the facts are changed just enough from the real world to make him and his ideas seem rediculious. 

It was about condesention and ridicule.  As such it has been remade and reworked in 100s of shows since.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Rothman on August 30, 2017, 03:09:10 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 28, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
If anybody has seen the 1990-1991 series of Twin Peaks, there's a lot of stuff that'd never be allowed today on that show.
Like what?  If anything, shows have become more controversial, not less. The old Twin Peaks pales in comparison (Season 3 is different, though, and has had its share of nudity and sex).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: dvferyance on September 03, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 24, 2017, 09:50:39 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 24, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
You can't put much of anything on the narrow widths of a modern TV today: cable boxes, remotes, TV Guides, an antenna, a vase...

For all the "they couldn't get away with that today" talk, things like bloodshed, farting, explicit language, and penis-size innuendos wouldn't have been allowed on network TV 25-30 years ago.

Funny how it all balances out.

"Network" TV, not much.  Cable/Satellite push the envelope much further.

Obviously, you haven't seen Family Feud over the last 5 years.  Pretty much every other survey has "penis" as an answer, or some sort of crude humor answer.  Sad part of it all is this is why you can find episodes and reruns of Steve Harvey hosted episodes for no less than 8 hours a day across local TV and cable channels.
That answer was given back when Louie Anderson was hosting it. That is nothing new.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on September 04, 2017, 09:21:15 AM
I guess the slapstick comedy a la Benny Hill wouldn't be made today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=099Cmu4cY7Q
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cjk374 on September 04, 2017, 09:31:08 AM
You really don't see any slap-stick comedy anymore. Such a shame.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on September 05, 2017, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on September 04, 2017, 09:31:08 AM
You really don't see any slap-stick comedy anymore. Such a shame.

I agree, some oldies like the Three Stooges still give us laughs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXHVVXAcNYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpQBVKF7KU0
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on September 09, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
NCIS
Quote from: cjk374 on September 04, 2017, 09:31:08 AM
You really don't see any slap-stick comedy anymore. Such a shame.
NCIS with Gibbs smacking Dinozzo on the back of the head was on rather recently airing that running feature.  Now I think he does it to McGee now that Dinozzo is gone from the show.

Quote from: SP Cook on August 29, 2017, 01:15:29 PM
The point of All In The Family was totally different.  The creators made up an unrealistic characture of what was then called Nixon's "silent majority" and then exposed him and his supporting cast to sounds true but the facts are changed just enough from the real world to make him and his ideas seem rediculious. 

It was about condesention and ridicule.  As such it has been remade and reworked in 100s of shows since.
The Meathead Character was based on Norman Lear himself and Archie was based on his real dad.  Lear had a relationship similar to Meathead and Archie with his own father and wanted to show the world how a child can be smarter than his parents. 
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on October 08, 2017, 10:50:49 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on July 10, 2017, 07:18:02 PM
The 1983 Inspector Gadget cartoon showed her niece Penny in various perils and often being the damsel in distress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJm5WVYIMNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_43asAIAA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aAiLZkPW0Lk

The 1987 edition of Ducktales showed Webby as a damsel in distress

But in the 2017 edition of Ducktales the current management had to change her into the lead explorer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0kqEN2iFk

In the 1987 edition of Ducktales that show was originally a parody of Indiana Jones in a cartoon. The 2017 Ducktales includes jokes of people who like to yell conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
Anyone else remember when Mario saying that drug users would go to Hell before they die?

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 09, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
Anyone else remember when Mario saying that drug users would go to Hell before they die?



I didn't saw that one, I remember more the PSA one with Pee-Wee Herman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agT2GVNQjao
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on October 09, 2017, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
Anyone else remember when Mario saying that drug users would go to Hell before they die?


"Before"  being the key word here.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Henry on October 09, 2017, 10:19:05 AM
As long as Bob Barker is alive, he will not allow certain episodes of The Price is Right to be shown on the air, mainly those with fur coats and other animal-based products, due to his ongoing animal rights cause. Maybe this is why not even the BUZZR game show channel has gotten around to airing his show at the moment.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2017, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: Takumi on October 09, 2017, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
Anyone else remember when Mario saying that drug users would go to Hell before they die?


"Before"  being the key word here.

Exactly....Mario and Ronnie Reagan were $@%in around with War on Drugs.  :-o

Jontron actually did a review all the good 80s Drug PSAs awhile back.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jwolfer on October 09, 2017, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2017, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: Takumi on October 09, 2017, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
Anyone else remember when Mario saying that drug users would go to Hell before they die?


"Before"  being the key word here.

Exactly....Mario and Ronnie Reagan were $@%in around with War on Drugs.  :-o

Jontron actually did a review all the good 80s Drug PSAs awhile back.


Drugs are bad mmmkay

Z981

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 10, 2017, 12:10:11 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on October 09, 2017, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2017, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: Takumi on October 09, 2017, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
Anyone else remember when Mario saying that drug users would go to Hell before they die?


"Before"  being the key word here.

Exactly....Mario and Ronnie Reagan were $@%in around with War on Drugs.  :-o

Jontron actually did a review all the good 80s Drug PSAs awhile back.


Drugs are bad mmmkay

Z981

But which are good?  Which are bad?

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Otto Yamamoto on October 12, 2017, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
Pissed off could not be said and since the 90s it was even said on Law and Order by Benjamin Bratt in one of his episodes he starred in.

Also the classification of Black can't be used anymore thanks to two nameless phony reverends who say its politically incorrect and racist even though many Africans I know, who are very pro Obama and anti Trump have no issues being called Blacks whatsoever.

However TV must comply with the same brass who owns the news.
Really. Then what do you call Blacks from Africa, The Caribbean or Europe?

P00I

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Otto Yamamoto on October 12, 2017, 07:44:06 AM
Quote from: bing101 on July 18, 2017, 12:37:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6uKOS3S2E


Well Mark Hyman would do well in some states but not in my area though.
This is really constructive.

P00I

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 15, 2017, 03:49:48 PM
There was on and off-talks of a new Police Academy movie (I don't know if it'll be PA8 or a reboot of the franchise). And in PA1, PA2, PA3 and PA4, there was these scene involving the Blue Oyster bar, could you imagine doing these scenes today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo3m2ATiomY
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on October 15, 2017, 10:38:02 PM


Yes WABC-TV's Eyewitness News 1984.
I don't think the phrase Tom Snyder said "Pussycat" would be used that much on TV or even on YouTube at this point though. See the start of the video.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on October 15, 2017, 10:47:09 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ix53Yyp1-Fc

1-900 numbers that used to exist in the 1980's and 1990's but that got replaced quickly with the tweets of celebs though.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Scott5114 on October 19, 2017, 06:06:48 AM
Quote from: bing101 on October 15, 2017, 10:38:02 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwIGxrunFE

Yes WABC-TV's Eyewitness News 1984.
I don't the phrase Tom Snyder said "Pussycat" would be used that much on TV or even on YouTube at this point though. See the start of the video.

I don't think any news director would allow their weatherman to draw the forecast on the back side of a sheet of Plexiglas anymore now that you can just chromakey a computer graphic behind the weatherman (or even put it on a big video wall, as several stations in OKC are doing now). Wonder how long that guy had to practice writing backward...
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on October 19, 2017, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 19, 2017, 06:06:48 AM
Quote from: bing101 on October 15, 2017, 10:38:02 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwIGxrunFE

Yes WABC-TV's Eyewitness News 1984.
I don't the phrase Tom Snyder said "Pussycat" would be used that much on TV or even on YouTube at this point though. See the start of the video.

I don't think any news director would allow their weatherman to draw the forecast on the back side of a sheet of Plexiglas anymore now that you can just chromakey a computer graphic behind the weatherman (or even put it on a big video wall, as several stations in OKC are doing now). Wonder how long that guy had to practice writing backward...

And before that, they used such things as chalkboards and those black felt things that one would stick letters and numbers into their paralleling horizontal grooves.  Also South Park-like 'construction' paper cutouts on a basic map base.

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Scott5114 on October 19, 2017, 07:26:02 PM
In fact, just looking at the screenshot without the video, I thought he was writing the temperature onto a chalkboard below him and out-of-frame, and it was being luminescence-keyed over him, which would have been cool enough. (Luminescence-keying is more or less the same as chroma-keying, except instead of keying out a particular color, you're keying out black. It was used a lot to superimpose graphics before Chyrons and such were invented. The original flashing light border around the screen at the beginning of The Price is Right, for instance, was an actual physical string of lights around a black square in the middle that was keyed over top of the camera feed.)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: renegade on October 22, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 19, 2017, 06:06:48 AMI don't think any news director would allow their weatherman to draw the forecast on the back side of a sheet of Plexiglas anymore now that you can just chromakey a computer graphic behind the weatherman (or even put it on a big video wall, as several stations in OKC are doing now). Wonder how long that guy had to practice writing backward...

Back in the 1960s. the weather person for WSPD-TV in Toledo used to do the plexiglas thing live on the street in front of its downtown studios.  On one such broadcast, a new person was substituting for the regular guy.  When you're on live TV, that is not the time to discover you cannot write backwards!  :-D
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: allniter89 on October 23, 2017, 12:22:08 AM
Quote from: bing101 on October 15, 2017, 10:38:02 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwIGxrunFE :-

Yes WABC-TV's Eyewitness News 1984.
I don't the phrase Tom Snyder said "Pussycat" would be used that much on TV or even on YouTube at this point though. See the start of the video.

That reminds me of an urban legend about the old Tonight Show. Johnnys guest was Zsa Zsa Gabor or one of the Gabor sisters, who cares? Anyway ZsaZSa was holding her cat in her lap talking to Johnny. ZsaZ sa asked Johny if he'd like to pet her pussy, Johnny said "I would if you'd move that damn cat."  :-D :-D :spin: :clap:
https://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/zsazsa.asp
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on October 23, 2017, 11:57:59 AM
http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Van-Amburg-former-king-of-Bay-Area-TV-news-dies-11260305.php

KGO San Francisco in the 1970's supposedly had Van Amburg say "Severed Penis on railroad in the Peninsula"

If Van Amburg said it today its the equivalent of a Youtube conspiracy clickbait.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vbJtKVAIug

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pgAomZl677Y

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePLkAm8i2s
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on October 28, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfM5jIi7ZM

Note if Roger Grimsby said that today, expect the families of people who jump off bridges to have the news director to fire Grimsby for being hollow to the victims families.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-gkACVd5Hg
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on October 28, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
Wasn't Grimsby fired anyway for something.  I heard that it was because he came to work stoned and made a forward  comment in his drunken stupor and he was let go either during the commercial break or at the end of the broadcast.

Then again WABC TV in NYC had another fired for jokingly saying that a woman rape victim deserved to be raped.  Also Jim Jensen from WCBS TV too had a drug issue which let him go while treatment for his illness.  It could have been one of these two.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on October 29, 2017, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
Wasn't Grimsby fired anyway for something.  I heard that it was because he came to work stoned and made a forward  comment in his drunken stupor and he was let go either during the commercial break or at the end of the broadcast.

Then again WABC TV in NYC had another fired for jokingly saying that a woman rape victim deserved to be raped.  Also Jim Jensen from WCBS TV too had a drug issue which let him go while treatment for his illness.  It could have been one of these two.

By the Way Roger Grimsby was once a KGO-TV San Francisco Anchor before ABC Moved him to WABC-TV though.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpX5y381sI

I heard stuff that Roger Grimsby was removed from KGO-TV because he was feuding with the General Manager of Channel7 in San Francisco before he went to the east coast though. Grimsby's San Francisco spot went to Van Amburg.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0r-bXnpSNs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tm96qliO8Ow

Apparently ABC let Roger go visit KGO in 1988 for the 40th anniversary of that station though.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on January 03, 2018, 06:49:04 PM
I was just thinking of Roger Grimsby.  Funny you posted about him.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: english si on January 03, 2018, 07:44:16 PM
Aussie Kids TV show Round the Twist (that aired on the BBC) tight-ropes this line. My peers and I loved it aged 8 (when it aired in the UK). There was an episode whose plot was about seeing how high you can pee up the wall* which they had to apologise for (and didn't rerun it) as it crossed the lines of what was acceptable on TV at that time of day. The rest of the show sailed close to the line of 'suitable for children' with horror stuff, gross-out humor, etc. Which, of course, is why we all loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sxR-hfisPs

*we boys talked about how great it was for about 5 months after, tried to pee as high as we could for a few weeks until we gave up. It literally was the must-see TV episode of our childhood simply as it crossed the line (it wasn't even a good episode of the show).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on January 04, 2018, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Henry on October 09, 2017, 10:19:05 AM
As long as Bob Barker is alive, he will not allow certain episodes of The Price is Right to be shown on the air, mainly those with fur coats and other animal-based products, due to his ongoing animal rights cause. Maybe this is why not even the BUZZR game show channel has gotten around to airing his show at the moment.

He doesn't seem to have a problem with them rerunning the episodes where he makes women reach into his pants pocket for the cash bonus they received for guessing the exact price of a product during One Bid.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on January 04, 2018, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 04, 2018, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Henry on October 09, 2017, 10:19:05 AM
As long as Bob Barker is alive, he will not allow certain episodes of The Price is Right to be shown on the air, mainly those with fur coats and other animal-based products, due to his ongoing animal rights cause. Maybe this is why not even the BUZZR game show channel has gotten around to airing his show at the moment.

He doesn't seem to have a problem with them rerunning the episodes where he makes women reach into his pants pocket for the cash bonus they received for guessing the exact price of a product during One Bid.

Actually, it was the pockets of the suit jackets he wore.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on January 04, 2018, 02:35:50 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 04, 2018, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 04, 2018, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Henry on October 09, 2017, 10:19:05 AM
As long as Bob Barker is alive, he will not allow certain episodes of The Price is Right to be shown on the air, mainly those with fur coats and other animal-based products, due to his ongoing animal rights cause. Maybe this is why not even the BUZZR game show channel has gotten around to airing his show at the moment.

He doesn't seem to have a problem with them rerunning the episodes where he makes women reach into his pants pocket for the cash bonus they received for guessing the exact price of a product during One Bid.

Actually, it was the pockets of the suit jackets he wore.

It was his pants.  I've seen clips of those eps on YouTube.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on January 05, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Well, every female contestant that was at least 16 years old.

And while he was a pervert, he didn't discriminate in his perversion.  He kissed women of all races and creeds.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: traffic light guy on April 08, 2018, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Could be due to feminism
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 08, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
Richard Dawson probably was the best villain Arnold Schwarzenegger ever went up against in any of his movies:

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: LM117 on April 08, 2018, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Doing that these days will get you #MeToo'ed.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on April 08, 2018, 10:27:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EACO6UUOyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfDE9bndfg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana_Tragedy%3A_The_Story_of_Jim_Jones

I don't think a movie like the Jonestown Movie from 1980 would air today on broadcast television. If it was aired today Netflix, Hulu, would be the only places to see this movie.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: sparker on April 09, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
Two episodes of "Married With Children" wouldn't make it in the post-PC world:  the "Period Piece" episode from one of the first seasons, where Al, Peg, and the kids go on a camping trip with Marcy and Ted, and all three females have their periods at the same time and subsequently terrorize the men.  The second, from one of the later seasons, was called "A Royal Flush", in which Al's beloved downstairs toilet finally fails, and there are only "low-flush" units available as replacements -- so he scours Chicagoland's "underground plumbing world" for a commercial toilet with a "manly flush" -- which, when finally installed in the episode's final scene, shakes everything off the walls when in use.  But then, little about that series would have been aired these days in any case!
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on April 09, 2018, 07:44:31 AM
Quote from: bing101 on October 23, 2017, 11:57:59 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePLkAm8i2s

That part of Alex Jones was reximed into a sort of song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8

And now Molly Ringwald, who had her moment of fame in The Breakfast Club, unload the Breakfast Club in the #Metoo era.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/molly-ringwald-problematic-breakfast-club-sixteen-candles-scenes-metoo-era-1100625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAACc604xKw

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 09, 2018, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2018, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Doing that these days will get you #MeToo’ed.

Ironically, the stuff on Harvey's version of Family Feud today would never have been permitted in the past!
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cjk374 on April 09, 2018, 08:41:54 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 09, 2018, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: LM117 on April 08, 2018, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Doing that these days will get you #MeToo’ed.

Ironically, the stuff on Harvey's version of Family Feud today would never have been permitted in the past!

Very good point.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on April 09, 2018, 10:54:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlNVEKrMoOw


Mork Interviews Robin Williams segment on Mork and Mindy.


This is one of the rare events where Robin Williams shows who he really is off camera but this scene was never looked at again until his death. Its one of the rare cases where Robin Williams really admits what Hollywood is like behind the scenes on this show.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: formulanone on April 10, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 08, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
Richard Dawson probably was the best villain Arnold Schwarzenegger ever went up against in any of his movies:

I always though the irony of The Running Man was that Richard Dawson was the villain you rooted for, just as the fans eventually rooted for The Butcher of Bakersfield.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on April 10, 2018, 11:43:40 PM
That was a great movie, yet it was not in the list of Arnold's best movies nor even came close to it.  I wish it would as I thought it was a good movie and yes Dawson did well as the villain.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on April 13, 2018, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
Wasn't Grimsby fired anyway for something.  I heard that it was because he came to work stoned and made a forward  comment in his drunken stupor and he was let go either during the commercial break or at the end of the broadcast.

Then again WABC TV in NYC had another fired for jokingly saying that a woman rape victim deserved to be raped.  Also Jim Jensen from WCBS TV too had a drug issue which let him go while treatment for his illness.  It could have been one of these two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Antoine

Well Tex Antoine got fired for the rant over rape on WABC-TV though.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on April 13, 2018, 11:37:20 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Field

Storm Field the former New York weather segment talent would not be allowed on TV for his name given recent events and people outside of NYC would not understand him well
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 16, 2018, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

He said he stopped kissing the female contestants because his daughter saw an old episode and asked why he was kissing women who wasn't her mommy.

Note that the mommy she was talking about, Richard met as a contestant on the show.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kkt on April 16, 2018, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: bing101 on April 13, 2018, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
Wasn't Grimsby fired anyway for something.  I heard that it was because he came to work stoned and made a forward  comment in his drunken stupor and he was let go either during the commercial break or at the end of the broadcast.

Then again WABC TV in NYC had another fired for jokingly saying that a woman rape victim deserved to be raped.  Also Jim Jensen from WCBS TV too had a drug issue which let him go while treatment for his illness.  It could have been one of these two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Antoine

Well Tex Antoine got fired for the rant over rape on WABC-TV though.

Maybe she should consider a career in scripted TV shows.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on April 16, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Well you gotta update this argument

http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/13/steve-harvey-lawsuit-fitness-model-talk-show-slutty/?adid=hero3

Now Steve Harvey and his staff is getting sued for stuff that happened on his talk show.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on April 16, 2018, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 16, 2018, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: bing101 on April 13, 2018, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
Wasn't Grimsby fired anyway for something.  I heard that it was because he came to work stoned and made a forward  comment in his drunken stupor and he was let go either during the commercial break or at the end of the broadcast.

Then again WABC TV in NYC had another fired for jokingly saying that a woman rape victim deserved to be raped.  Also Jim Jensen from WCBS TV too had a drug issue which let him go while treatment for his illness.  It could have been one of these two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Antoine

Well Tex Antoine got fired for the rant over rape on WABC-TV though.

Maybe she should consider a career in scripted TV shows.

With Mariska Hargitay coaching her.  "Oh honey, I know how you feel, I have been raped myself" as SVU Olivia Benson would always say..
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Jardine on April 16, 2018, 10:41:22 PM
Didn't think a thing about it at the time, but nowadays, I don't think any TV station would use a cat puppet to deliver the weather report like a TV station in Milwaukee used to.

If any one recalls more about this feel free to help me out.  It's been a while and I don't remember the name of the puppet or the TV station call letters.


As for a more serious thing I've noticed on reruns of Keeping Up Appearances, Hyacinth is mauled, groped and kissed by horny old men in at least 2 episodes.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 16, 2018, 11:02:26 PM
Quote from: sparker on April 09, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
Two episodes of "Married With Children" wouldn't make it in the post-PC world:  the "Period Piece" episode from one of the first seasons, where Al, Peg, and the kids go on a camping trip with Marcy and Ted, and all three females have their periods at the same time and subsequently terrorize the men.
Really? Because there as a "Modern Family" episode where all three Dunphy girls got their periods at the same time, thus freaking out Phil and Luke.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: LM117 on April 17, 2018, 01:24:38 PM
Quote from: bing101 on April 16, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Well you gotta update this argument

http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/13/steve-harvey-lawsuit-fitness-model-talk-show-slutty/?adid=hero3

Now Steve Harvey and his staff is getting sued for stuff that happened on his talk show.

I wonder who else is gonna come out the woodwork now... :coffee:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: RobbieL2415 on April 17, 2018, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on April 16, 2018, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

He said he stopped kissing the female contestants because his daughter saw an old episode and asked why he was kissing women who wasn't her mommy.

Note that the mommy she was talking about, Richard met as a contestant on the show.
Dawson was also heavily criticized for kissing African-American women and, I think, for even having black families on the show.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on April 17, 2018, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on April 17, 2018, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on April 16, 2018, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

He said he stopped kissing the female contestants because his daughter saw an old episode and asked why he was kissing women who wasn't her mommy.

Note that the mommy she was talking about, Richard met as a contestant on the show.
Dawson was also heavily criticized for kissing African-American women and, I think, for even having black families on the show.
Look at lately, since ole Steve took over the show, every episode features a black family!  Not that is anything wrong with any race playing the game, but it seems that the show's producers want one to be in every game almost like Al Sharpton was complaining Mark Goodman is racist and insist that he use affirmative action in casting contestants that every game be at least one family.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: signalman on April 17, 2018, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 17, 2018, 04:58:37 PM
Look at lately, since ole Steve took over the show, every episode features a black family!  Not that is anything wrong with any race playing the game, but it seems that the show's producers want one to be in every game almost like Al Sharpton was complaining Mark Goodman is racist and insist that he use affirmative action in casting contestants that every game be at least one family.
I've seen episodes under Steve's watch that didn't have a black family.  But admittedly, that's the exception and not the norm.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on April 20, 2018, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: bing101 on April 16, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 04, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Even better....Richard Dawson, the host of Family Feud in the 80s, kissing EVERY female contestant on the show. You don't see Steve Harvey doing that on his version of Family Feud.  :no:

Well you gotta update this argument

http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/13/steve-harvey-lawsuit-fitness-model-talk-show-slutty/?adid=hero3

Now Steve Harvey and his staff is getting sued for stuff that happened on his talk show.

His ideas of what it means to be a Christian are...interesting, to say the least.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on April 20, 2018, 01:31:15 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 16, 2018, 11:02:26 PM
Quote from: sparker on April 09, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
Two episodes of "Married With Children" wouldn't make it in the post-PC world:  the "Period Piece" episode from one of the first seasons, where Al, Peg, and the kids go on a camping trip with Marcy and Ted, and all three females have their periods at the same time and subsequently terrorize the men.
Really? Because there as a "Modern Family" episode where all three Dunphy girls got their periods at the same time, thus freaking out Phil and Luke.

The episode of MwC mentioned above never actually made it to air.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on June 07, 2018, 03:19:39 PM

Here is one example at the end of the Goofy Segment where a kid says "I will not Bomb the School again". Walt Disney will get targeted by various victim's rights groups of School shootings and school attacks if this cartoon aired today.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on June 07, 2018, 03:21:53 PM

And yes this was mentioned in the 2018 NBA Finals thread. I don't know if the scene where 2:16 questioning the referee's eyesight will be allowed in 2018 in this Disney Cartoon given that Disney's ESPN has rights to the NBA Finals.  Even though this cartoon was originally about the College Basketball Finals everything in this cartoon is still true today.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 07, 2018, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: bing101 on June 07, 2018, 03:19:39 PM

Here is one example at the end of the Goofy Segment where a kid says "I will not Bomb the School again". Walt Disney will get targeted by various victim's rights groups of School shootings and school attacks if this cartoon aired today.

Besides Goofy, shorts about Popeye giving driving lessons to Olive and how women driving was portrayed wouldn't be made today. Note then this is a colourized version.
http://dai.ly/x5utrt7

And it was ramade later as "Car-Azy Drivers"
http://dai.ly/x3w1rh6

And here a mash-up clip coming various 1967-70 Spider-man episodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMdh4DkslVk
To think there was an episode where Spider-man awaken after being put in a cooler by 2 thieve in a post-apocalyptic future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJw2UptjnE

Edit: Is there a way to embede a video located on Dailymotion?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on June 07, 2018, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 07, 2018, 04:31:38 PMTo think there was an episode where Spider-man awaken after being put in a cooler by 2 thieve in a post-apocalyptic future

What makes it especially odd is that the trope "stuffed in the fridge," which refers to the plot device where a (generally male) protagonist's motivation is the death of their significant other, has its origins in a comic book, where a superhero's girlfriend is killed by locking her in a fridge.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 07, 2018, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 07, 2018, 05:10:30 PM
What makes it especially odd is that the trope "stuffed in the fridge," which refers to the plot device where a (generally male) protagonist's motivation is the death of their significant other, has its origins in a comic book, where a superhero's girlfriend is killed by locking her in a fridge.

That or being throwed from the top of a bridge (Gwen Stacy) and let's not forget one of the classic damsel in distress trope, being tied to railroads, used in Dudley Do-Right opening and in some Popeye shorts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM_hC1acybA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npfi0UZL2ow

Another Spider-man episode who wouldn't be made today "Revolt in the Fifth Dimension" who was a remake of the Rocket Robin Hood episode "Dementia Five" by recylcling backgrounds and stock footage. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8_2GUXnPu4
https://youtu.be/_1fXf8CLkw0
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on June 07, 2018, 10:34:45 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/roseanne-barr-obama-adviser-baby-muslim-brotherhood-planet/story?id=55504982

Roseanne both the 1980's/1990's edition and 2018 reboot cannot be aired anymore due to Roseanne making questionable tweets.  Yes ABC/Disney cut the contract away from the Owners of Roseanne due to a rant that is straight outta Alex Joneses mouth.

However if Roseanne Barr were to get a role again today then it would have to be a pundit for Alex Jones.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 09, 2018, 09:02:18 AM
It's a wonder then some folks had gived the green light for that episode of the cartoon Braceface.
https://youtu.be/qg05TGcn28g
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on June 09, 2018, 11:00:20 AM
There was a classic Hawaii Five-O episode that has never been syndicated. I believe it featured someone who hanged themselves.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on June 12, 2018, 01:40:26 PM
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gi1hd

Mickey's Parrot Clip yes where Mickey Mouse was defending his home for a killer alert with a gun. This Clip will not run in today's Disney Studios because of various backlash.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 12, 2018, 08:10:42 PM
In Popeye's "Lunch with a punch" around 5:10 Olive cheers up Popeye's nephews to knock out Bluto. We won't see that today.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3qt9w7
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on June 14, 2018, 04:17:00 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 08, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
Jackie Gleason on the Honeymooners who used to threaten his wife with his fists and making the famous lines "You're going to the moon." 

Ed Asner, as Lou Grant in Mary Tyler Moore, where he told Mary in the pilot episode " Hey Mary you have a nice caboose" meaning he though her ass was hot, as in those days all freight trains used cabooses at the rear of the train.

Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy spanking Lucy.

Those were classic and made TV funny, but with today's worlds standards and the escalation of acts of men toward women being degrading, modern television would not allow this thing as political activists groups would be making headlines and protesting the networks if a show like these were aired today.


Here is another twist All In The Family which allowed for censorship to be relaxed such as allowing phrases "What the Hell" and  allowing the toilet to be mentioned (and heard) plus allowing politics to be talked about on network TV and subjects such as the Vietnam protests and women's lib, along with talking about sexual promiscuous and the related were taboo as Rolling Stones when on the Ed Sullivan Show had to change the lyrics to their hit song Lets Spend The Night Together to  as the hint of sex could not even be mentioned at all originally, would not be allowed in today's world either.

Then look at the Honeymooners again, and What's Happening which used humor derived at poking fun at overweight people.  That is a big no no today.  I do not even think that Good Times or Maude (two more Norman Lear programs) could not be aired today with their controversial themes. 

It seems like slapstick comedy, obese jokes,  funny statements about punching females and commentary are not at all acceptable many decades later.  Any other things about modern television that changed comedy or even drama that can't be aired today?


Television was always censored, and it always will be.

Animation of the 1970s was supposed to be for preschool children. There were some things that must be deleted, but the main reasons for censoring and editing animation was to sell toys. 1970s episodes of Tom & Jerry were very different. Episodes of Tom & Jerry made before the 1970s had to be edited. It was more than blackface. They wanted the character Mammy Two Shoes gone. Chuck Jones was given the assignment of adapting theatrical animation for television, which included whitewashing Mammy Two Shoes. Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies was also Edited For Television. Scenes of Sylvester trying to kill himself (such as by means of cigarettes and alcohol and drug overdose) had to be deleted. But remember most of these theatricals (perhaps not Tom & Jerry nor Pink Panther, as Pink Panther is newer ... but the very very old ones such as Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies) were created during War Times, for War Times. Consider them animated editorial cartoons.

Other Animation such as Gatchaman was imported to The United States, with a complete redesign. It wasn't until the 21st Century when every episode was left Intact.

Now as for Gatchaman offending anybody today: Gatchaman contains two or three scenes where a woman is slapped. One of the scenes a woman was slapped so hard, the slap knocked her to the ground. And the slapping characters were the HEROES of the show, not the villains. The slapping was necessary because the women were stubborn and their lives were in danger. It won't be long before some people want the scenes deleted (again).

Room 222 ... I really doubt that a programme such as Room 222 could be aired today.

The original Dark Shadows. Dark Shadows is a Halloween themed soap opera  with various Supernatural, and having Seance, and depicting churches as corrupt cults. Dark Shadows is popular enough to make new episodes, (but first they should restore Night Of Dark Shadows) be cause of its popularity. It would still infuriate people who love churches.

Are these examples not good enough?

Episode A Farewell Tree From Marly of The Rookies has Marly Devon as "Retarded". I don't think that would would be used so easily. Or perhaps that was the point of the episode.

Not Good Enough?

There was Richard Dawson. Richard Dawson is one of the Family Feud hosts and gently kissed the lady contestants on the side of her face.

Still not good enough?

There was Bert Convy. Bert Convy hosted many game shows. One of them is Tattle Tales or Tattletales. This game show seems to blend The Ellen Degeneres Talk Show with T.M.Z.. (The audience won tiny cash prizes and the programme said it was "The Show Of Celebrity Gossip") Bert Convy seemed to be one of those very healthy "foreign" romantics that sometimes kissed an unsuspecting female. (Or perhaps she was warned in advance) The kiss was a very long mouth kiss. If a man tried to do that today, I am certain he would be killed.


...

Quote from: I-39 on July 09, 2017, 05:40:03 PM
Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network would never be allowed today. That should had a mild edginess to it and people are too sensitive these days.


Yes, I agree with Johnny Bravo also.  A friendly, but lonely man that tried to date, rapidly asked her out, and get attacked by her. This could offend women. On the other hand, now there is a generation of men that are single or in a bad relationship, hate it, but do nothing about it. Perhaps Johnny Bravo should not have aired.


Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on October 12, 2017, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
Pissed off could not be said and since the 90s it was even said on Law and Order by Benjamin Bratt in one of his episodes he starred in.

Also the classification of Black can't be used anymore thanks to two nameless phony reverends who say its politically incorrect and racist even though many Africans I know, who are very pro Obama and anti Trump have no issues being called Blacks whatsoever.

However TV must comply with the same brass who owns the news.
Really. Then what do you call Blacks from Africa, The Caribbean, or Europe?

P00I

Native African.


Quote from: Scott5114 on October 19, 2017, 07:26:02 PM
In fact, just looking at the screenshot without the video, I thought he was writing the temperature onto a chalkboard below him and out-of-frame, and it was being luminescence-keyed over him, which would have been cool enough. (Luminescence-keying is more or less the same as chroma-keying, except instead of keying out a particular color, you're keying out black. It was used a lot to superimpose graphics before Chyrons and such were invented. The original flashing light border around the screen at the beginning of The Price is Right, for instance, was an actual physical string of lights around a black square in the middle that was keyed over top of the camera feed.)

I am surprised that they used Chalkboards. Markerboards were in use by 1970, seen in [The] Mary Tyler Moore [Show]. Look for it in "Lou's First Date", and "Sue Ann Gets The Ax".


As for the Luminescence Over The Chalkboard or whatever, it would have been easier for The Weather Anchor to use a Telestrator, as they did in Now You See It.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on June 14, 2018, 08:57:58 AM
Quote from: In_Correct on June 14, 2018, 04:17:00 AMRichard Dawson is one of the Family Feud hosts and gently kissed the lady contestants on the side of her face.

Yeah, no, he kissed them on the lips.  Every.  Single.  Time.  I've been watching the reruns on Buzzr (some sort of OTA version of Game Show Network).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on June 14, 2018, 11:07:08 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 14, 2018, 08:57:58 AM
Quote from: In_Correct on June 14, 2018, 04:17:00 AMRichard Dawson is one of the Family Feud hosts and gently kissed the lady contestants on the side of her face.

Yeah, no, he kissed them on the lips.  Every.  Single.  Time.  I've been watching the reruns on Buzzr (some sort of OTA version of Game Show Network).

It has been a long time since I have watched episodes of either kissing on Tattle Tales or Richard Dawson's hosting of Family Feud. Unfortunately, I have not found any thing clip related. But I do remember that Bert Convy's kissing (perhaps it was only one time) was shown on Most Outrageous Moments. Perhaps Richard Dawson was the first one to do this and Bert Convy decided to kiss on his show after he saw Dawson? ... but I thought that Richard Dawson's was gentle while Bert Convy's was more extreme. I will have to watch them again.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on August 02, 2018, 10:51:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzH1iaKVsBM


Donald Duck ties to Hitler would not be used today by current Disney Staff. However this is one of the cartoons that questions is Walt Disney or the staff at the time of the cartoon tied to Hitler.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on August 03, 2018, 10:46:30 AM
Not so much "not allowed on TV today"  as "largely inaccurate today,"  but I just watched Rob Petrie ask Laura to remember her wedding vow to love, honor, and obey.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cpzilliacus on August 04, 2018, 04:37:38 PM
In Living Color, which aired on FoX-TV in its early days, had plenty of non-PC content. 

The late former Mayor-for-Life of the District of Columbia, Marion Shepilov Barry, Jr. was featured in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b91i-LnbIx8).  Likely non-PC now.

And Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam was torched (along with Star Trek) here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52o1d7XPni0).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: dvferyance on August 07, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
Richard Dawson kissing women on Family Fued.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on August 08, 2018, 12:25:47 AM
In Season one of Family Ties, Alex P. Keaton (who was only 17 in character on the program) slept with a woman older than 18 years of age.  With the whole sex crimes thing nowadays (as even on Law & Order SVU they have older teens being charged with sex crimes for sleeping with younger teens being forced to register as offenders) that would not be allowed by any network.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on August 13, 2018, 11:21:33 AM
Two days ago a rerun of Archie Bunker's Place was on. It featured the episode of when Archie had a gay waiter in the first season.  There was a line in it that  had "He's going to turn our bar and grill into a fairyland" said by Caroll O' Connor' character the famous Archie Bunker.

Now not only would that be allowed, but totally irrelivant as even most on the political right and born again types look at the lifestyle in a more serious (not funny) manner.  I laughed at it when first aired decades ago, but when I heard it this past week I did not think its so funny anymore.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on August 13, 2018, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 13, 2018, 11:21:33 AM
Two days ago a rerun of Archie Bunker's Place was on. It featured the episode of when Archie had a gay waiter in the first season.  There was a line in it that  had "He's going to turn our bar and grill into a fairyland" said by Caroll O' Connor' character the famous Archie Bunker.

Now not only would that be allowed, but totally irrelivant as even most on the political right and born again types look at the lifestyle in a more serious (not funny) manner.  I laughed at it when first aired decades ago, but when I heard it this past week I did not think its so funny anymore.
At the time it was probably considered progressive because they acknowledged that the character was gay.

We were watching a Webster rerun the other day that included the following exchange:

"I thought he was Oriental!"
"No, he was just squinting."
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on August 14, 2018, 03:44:48 PM
Charlie Chan would likely have to be re-tooled given it was a White man in the role and affirmed stereotypes of the day.

Hop Sing from Bonanza would also have to be re-imagined as his character was rather stereotypical.

Kato from the Green Hornet started out mostly as the Karate expert and chauffeur, until Bruce Lee requested his character be given more to do.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on August 14, 2018, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on August 13, 2018, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 13, 2018, 11:21:33 AM
Two days ago a rerun of Archie Bunker's Place was on. It featured the episode of when Archie had a gay waiter in the first season.  There was a line in it that  had "He's going to turn our bar and grill into a fairyland" said by Caroll O' Connor' character the famous Archie Bunker.

Now not only would that be allowed, but totally irrelivant as even most on the political right and born again types look at the lifestyle in a more serious (not funny) manner.  I laughed at it when first aired decades ago, but when I heard it this past week I did not think its so funny anymore.
At the time it was probably considered progressive because they acknowledged that the character was gay.

We were watching a Webster rerun the other day that included the following exchange:

“I thought he was Oriental!”
“No, he was just squinting.”
Previously on All In The Family there was an episode that acknowledged homosexuality.  The one where Archie thought that Meathead's friend Roger was gay, due to his flamboyant demeanor, but it turned out Archie's old time buddy was the one who was really gay while Roger was straight.

I think Lear wanted to show that looks can be deceiving and used that to prove that not all effeminine men are homosexuals and that all straight looking guys could really not be as straight as they look.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on November 04, 2018, 06:16:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y881yjtFluQ


Here is a good Disney Cartoon but its more real though its about the effects gentrification and this cartoon is still true today.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on November 04, 2018, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 04, 2018, 06:16:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y881yjtFluQ


Here is a good Disney Cartoon but its more real though its about the effects gentrification and this cartoon is still true today.

It reminds me of another cartoon with a similar pattern but this time with a car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktRLlWh8gE
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on November 05, 2018, 11:00:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtDYEkXwzVk


Here's one parody that Disney Did Recently on their show. Mickey Mouse did a parody of Extreme Makeover: Home Edition that used to air a decade ago on Disney's ABC Primetime lineup.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9WE-7DTmCw


I don't think ABC or Disney would allow the Mickey Mouse cartoon episode to happen if Extreme Makeover: Home Edition was still under contract. 

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on November 05, 2018, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 05, 2018, 11:00:57 AM
Here's one parody that Disney Did Recently on their show. Mickey Mouse did a parody of Extreme Makeover: Home Edition that used to air a decade ago on Disney's ABC Primetime lineup.

I don't think ABC or Disney would allow the Mickey Mouse cartoon episode to happen if Extreme Makeover: Home Edition was still under contract. 

That's a unique turn on the topic:  Stuff today that would not be allowed on old TV.   :-P
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on November 05, 2018, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 05, 2018, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 05, 2018, 11:00:57 AM
Here's one parody that Disney Did Recently on their show. Mickey Mouse did a parody of Extreme Makeover: Home Edition that used to air a decade ago on Disney's ABC Primetime lineup.

I don't think ABC or Disney would allow the Mickey Mouse cartoon episode to happen if Extreme Makeover: Home Edition was still under contract. 

That's a unique turn on the topic:  Stuff today that would not be allowed on old TV.   :-P
(1) Black people and white people drinking from the same drinking fountain.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on November 05, 2018, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 04, 2018, 06:16:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y881yjtFluQ


Here is a good Disney Cartoon but its more real though its about the effects gentrification and this cartoon is still true today.
Considering the copyright date, it's probably more accurate to say that it's anti-urban renewal as opposed to anti-gentrification. 
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: PHLBOS on March 04, 2019, 11:36:47 AM
Thread bump:

Compilation of actual old TV commercials, mostly from the 1960s but some are from the late 70s as well, that would likely not be aired today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66mQz44pPY4
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: RobbieL2415 on March 08, 2019, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on August 07, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
Richard Dawson kissing women on Family Fued.
They REALLY didn't like it when he would kiss black women, supposedly.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on March 08, 2019, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 08, 2019, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on August 07, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
Richard Dawson kissing women on Family Fued.
They REALLY didn't like it when he would kiss black women, supposedly.
Who's "they"?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2019, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: bing101 on March 09, 2019, 11:40:35 PMYes using a Red hat these days would somehow end up being controversial if Jason Mraz were to air his first music video today on TV. Note this song and video was on VH1 back in 2003-2004.

But back then a red hat didn't have the political controversies that it has in the past 3 years tough for obvious reasons.
IMHO, you're seriously overreaching in your above-post.  Many baseball teams use red hats (Phillies & Red Sox being two of them).  I have never heard of someone wearing a red sports team's hat being yelled at and/or assaulted for wearing such... unless they were in a rival team's territory and even such are rare, isolated & usually involve excessive alcohol consumption.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on March 11, 2019, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2019, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: bing101 on March 09, 2019, 11:40:35 PMYes using a Red hat these days would somehow end up being controversial if Jason Mraz were to air his first music video today on TV. Note this song and video was on VH1 back in 2003-2004.

But back then a red hat didn't have the political controversies that it has in the past 3 years tough for obvious reasons.
IMHO, you're seriously overreaching in your above-post.  Many baseball teams use red hats (Phillies & Red Sox being two of them).  I have never heard of someone wearing a red sports team's hat being yelled at and/or assaulted for wearing such... unless they were in a rival team's territory and even such are rare, isolated & usually involve excessive alcohol consumption.


True though.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on June 12, 2019, 10:14:42 PM
That old The Little House cartoon, complete with the clown faces, is about Anti-Urban-Renewal.

But what about all those other links to videos with no thumbnail on them. What is the title?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 12, 2019, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: In_Correct on June 12, 2019, 10:14:42 PM
That old The Little House cartoon, complete with the clown faces, is about Anti-Urban-Renewal.

But what about all those other links to videos with no thumbnail on them. What is the title?

The video with no thumbnail, was "Susie the little blue coupe"(1952) made around the same era featuring the little house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTF6v3ejaJQ
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on December 16, 2019, 11:03:41 AM
Tom and Jerry.  The pool hall cartoon where Jerry uses the score wire to launch a mechanical bridge to fire at Tom.  Of course like always Tom changes physical shape as the cartoon's running gag throughout its entire run, but Tom swallows the handle of the bridge with the actual bridge stuck in his mouth altering his face to look like a doofus.  Being that he said "Uh duh a duh a duh" could in today's world be considered picking on the mentally challenged.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on December 16, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
I don't have all the details handy, but Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer has had a few things changed/edited out over the years.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: GaryV on December 16, 2019, 06:38:31 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 16, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
I don't have all the details handy, but Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer has had a few things changed/edited out over the years.

And yet a lot of the sexism remains.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 16, 2019, 10:33:19 PM
Somehow I don't think the Sonic Sez regarding "everyone loves getting hugs from someone they like"  would really fly in this era of PC kids programming.  Come to think of it how much of the old school PSA culture (especially regarding drugs) would fly these days?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Rothman on December 16, 2019, 10:57:50 PM
How are fried eggs non-PC?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Big John on December 16, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 16, 2019, 10:33:19 PM
Somehow I don't think the Sonic Sez regarding "everyone loves getting hugs from someone they like"  would really fly in this era of PC kids programming.  Come to think of it how much of the old school PSA culture (especially regarding drugs) would fly these days?
This 70s PSA could address amonst other things: Mr Yuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVU6uTADf9w
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 17, 2019, 12:07:39 AM
Quote from: Big John on December 16, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 16, 2019, 10:33:19 PM
Somehow I don't think the Sonic Sez regarding "everyone loves getting hugs from someone they like"  would really fly in this era of PC kids programming.  Come to think of it how much of the old school PSA culture (especially regarding drugs) would fly these days?
This 70s PSA could address amonst other things: Mr Yuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVU6uTADf9w

I'm more of the fan of the 80s War on Drugs stuff.  I wouldn't haven't known what drugs were if a Snake Man hadn't told me:

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman on December 17, 2019, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: In_Correct on June 12, 2019, 10:14:42 PM
That old The Little House cartoon, complete with the clown faces, is about Anti-Urban-Renewal.

As a young child, the Virginia Lee Burton book The Little House was one of my favorites.  Never could admit it to anyone though, as it was considered to be a "girls" book at the time.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on December 17, 2019, 10:25:20 AM
Quote from: US71 on December 16, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
I don't have all the details handy, but Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer has had a few things changed/edited out over the years.

There are a few reasons for that.

At the end of it, the guy threw his axe and licked it yet again. But this time he found Peppermint.

Viewers demanded that there were not enough scenes involving The Island Of Misfit Toys. So the next year, They replaced the original ending with an ending about The Island Of Misfit Toys. Since this is supposed to air on television every year, they did not have enough time to air both scenes.

And 20 years ago they began to delete even more scenes to make room for commercials. Actually most of these commercials are not advertisements. They have to do with other programmes. I am not a fan of Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer. Despite Rudolph's Shiny New Year being spookier than Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer, I became more frightened of Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer. One of the things I never liked is when he licked his axe, even if the original ending explained why.

But there are other specials that I preferred, such as The Year Without A Santa Claus, and Twas The Night Before Christmas. A.B.C. Family deleted one of the songs a long time ago. ... the "Let Up A Little On The Wonder Why And Give Your Heart A Try" song. And now the "My World Is Beginning Today" song from Santa Claus Is Coming To Town is deleted.

The only things inappropriate for television that they have is not providing enough time for commercials as well as "commercials". But they released them on DVD and Blu Ray including the deleted scenes. Sometimes they have them completely restored such as having the Peppermint ending occurring before the final Island Of Misfit Toys scene.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Scott5114 on December 17, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
There has been some question in recent years about whether the Rudolph story in general is in good taste, since the message that could be reasonably be taken away from it is that any difference or deformity one has will only be accepted when it is useful to someone else.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Terry on December 17, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
Try doing this opening from "Here come the 70's", a Canadian produced program that aired on CTV from 1970 to 1973.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on December 17, 2019, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 17, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
There has been some question in recent years about whether the Rudolph story in general is in good taste, since the message that could be reasonably be taken away from it is that any difference or deformity one has will only be accepted when it is useful to someone else.

Funny.  I started saying that in jest years ago.  Now people are saying it in earnest?  Our society is pathetic.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: bing101 on December 17, 2019, 05:55:15 PM
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/04/28/717595757/brady-bunch-episode-fuels-campaigns-against-vaccines-and-marcia-s-miffed (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/04/28/717595757/brady-bunch-episode-fuels-campaigns-against-vaccines-and-marcia-s-miffed)

The Brady Bunch Measles episode will not be allowed today because of the vaccine debates and measles fallouts in various parts of the world. The most recent cases reported in Denver, Los Angeles, Samoa and Fiji.



https://kdvr.com/2019/12/17/several-people-quarantined-at-home-after-possible-measles-exposure-at-childrens-hospital-er/ (https://kdvr.com/2019/12/17/several-people-quarantined-at-home-after-possible-measles-exposure-at-childrens-hospital-er/)


https://ktla.com/2019/12/16/3-measles-patients-who-traveled-through-lax-while-contagious-may-have-exposed-others/ (https://ktla.com/2019/12/16/3-measles-patients-who-traveled-through-lax-while-contagious-may-have-exposed-others/)


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samoa-extends-measles-state-of-emergency-as-death-toll-climbs-2019-12-14/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samoa-extends-measles-state-of-emergency-as-death-toll-climbs-2019-12-14/)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on December 17, 2019, 06:02:05 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 17, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
There has been some question in recent years about whether the Rudolph story in general is in good taste, since the message that could be reasonably be taken away from it is that any difference or deformity one has will only be accepted when it is useful to someone else.

As the Fakebook meme points out

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f7ef5890c0582716d5b18f24debe2f4bfb47b980/c=92-0-1280-893/local/-/media/2017/12/15/INGroup/Evansville/636489109267062306-Rudolph---screenshot.jpg?width=540&height=405&fit=crop)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: RobbieL2415 on December 18, 2019, 05:53:46 PM
They will never allow there to be another Star Wars Holiday Special.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cwf1701 on December 19, 2019, 04:26:29 PM
Of course, many skits and stunts now have the disclaimer "do not try". I remember watching comedy skits on tv where kids did funny stuff that would not be shown today unless they put "do not attempt" before the skit. for example, When i was a boy about 9, i saw a skit with a boy (about the same age as me in the skit) at the bowling alley. in the skit, when the boy goes to release his bowling ball, he is taken over the foul line and down the lane to the pins for a strike. I Don't know how many kids of the mid 70s (myself included) after seeing something like it, would then try to do what he did on tv.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman on December 19, 2019, 04:41:09 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on December 18, 2019, 05:53:46 PM
They will never allow there to be another Star Wars Holiday Special.

Given how pathetic the franchise has become (Baby Yoda - really?), I don't see how that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman on December 19, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 17, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
There has been some question in recent years about whether the Rudolph story in general is in good taste, since the message that could be reasonably be taken away from it is that any difference or deformity one has will only be accepted when it is useful to someone else.

Must we ruin everything?!?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Scott5114 on December 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 19, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 17, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
There has been some question in recent years about whether the Rudolph story in general is in good taste, since the message that could be reasonably be taken away from it is that any difference or deformity one has will only be accepted when it is useful to someone else.

Must we ruin everything?!?

Won't someone think of the poor NBC and General Electric executives' bank accounts?!
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 19, 2019, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 16, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 16, 2019, 10:33:19 PM
Somehow I don't think the Sonic Sez regarding "everyone loves getting hugs from someone they like"  would really fly in this era of PC kids programming.  Come to think of it how much of the old school PSA culture (especially regarding drugs) would fly these days?
This 70s PSA could address amonst other things: Mr Yuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVU6uTADf9w

And this PIF (public information film as they're known in the UK) wouldn't be made today as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZhB7fTLezw

Meanwhile, this anti-drug PSA broadcasted in Canada during the 1990s was more better then some others of the same era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rO3TGDAHs
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on December 19, 2019, 08:39:02 PM
and if you needed an "Indian" there was always a white guy who could put on the red face.  Of course it's still an NFL logo.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on December 20, 2019, 01:16:12 PM
Any cartoon for children in which the characters don't all get along, cooperate, live happy and fulfilling lives.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: formulanone on December 20, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 20, 2019, 01:16:12 PM
Any cartoon for children in which the characters don't all get along, cooperate, live happy and fulfilling lives.

Go watch Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, or The Venture Bros...in order of decreasing family-friendliness.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman on December 20, 2019, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 20, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 20, 2019, 01:16:12 PM
Any cartoon for children in which the characters don't all get along, cooperate, live happy and fulfilling lives.

Go watch Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, or The Venture Bros...in order of decreasing family-friendliness.
Adventure Time.  Everything that's gone wrong with animation and television neatly summarized in a single cartoon series.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: formulanone on December 20, 2019, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 20, 2019, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 20, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 20, 2019, 01:16:12 PM
Any cartoon for children in which the characters don't all get along, cooperate, live happy and fulfilling lives.

Go watch Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, or The Venture Bros...in order of decreasing family-friendliness.
Adventure Time.  Everything that's gone wrong with humanity animation and television neatly summarized in a single cartoon series.

Fixed that for you.

Some of us prefer TV without a studio audience, predictable plots, or low-quality acting.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on December 21, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
Different strokes
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: RobbieL2415 on December 23, 2019, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 20, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 20, 2019, 01:16:12 PM
Any cartoon for children in which the characters don't all get along, cooperate, live happy and fulfilling lives.

Go watch Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, or The Venture Bros...in order of decreasing family-friendliness.
Add Gumball and Steven Universe to that list.  But at least these shows are tackling serious issues like rape and sexuality.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on December 23, 2019, 05:03:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 16, 2019, 11:03:41 AM
Tom and Jerry.  The pool hall cartoon where Jerry uses the score wire to launch a mechanical bridge to fire at Tom.  Of course like always Tom changes physical shape as the cartoon's running gag throughout its entire run, but Tom swallows the handle of the bridge with the actual bridge stuck in his mouth altering his face to look like a doofus.  Being that he said "Uh duh a duh a duh" could in today's world be considered picking on the mentally challenged.

Not only the violence but the fat black woman is a stereotype....never mind that there are fat black women....
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: dvferyance on December 30, 2019, 01:18:59 PM
On Green Acres Mr Haney mentioned a taco parlor that gets busy during the season we import our then he used a word that starts with a w that refers to an illegal immigrant. I know that would never be allowed on TV today.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman on December 30, 2019, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on December 30, 2019, 01:18:59 PM
On Green Acres Mr Haney mentioned a taco parlor that gets busy during the season we import our then he used a word that starts with a w that refers to an illegal immigrant. I know that would never be allowed on TV today.
Not the only time during the series he used that term.  In another episode, he was trying to get Mr. Douglas to invest in building an automated tomato planter that he described as "The answer to every farmer's prayers.  A mechanized w."
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on December 31, 2019, 12:24:15 AM
Would Sanford and Son's scene with Fred raising his fists at his nemesis sister in law Esther be allowed today?  Being they were not married it can't be considered spousal abuse.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: allniter89 on December 31, 2019, 10:14:55 PM
I'm surprised they allowed it then.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on January 02, 2020, 10:47:13 AM
It is produced by Norman Lear. He got away with any thing.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SectorZ on January 02, 2020, 06:45:40 PM
Quote from: In_Correct on January 02, 2020, 10:47:13 AM
It is produced by Norman Lear. He got away with any thing.

I guess that was his idea of the "American Way"...
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 02, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
-All smoking and tobacco
-All negative portrayals of African-Americans
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on January 02, 2020, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 02, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
-All smoking and tobacco
-All negative portrayals of African-Americans

JJ Evans. Esther Rolle even left the show over his character.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 03, 2020, 07:14:51 AM
This doesn't really count as "old TV", but Borat.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 03, 2020, 08:16:07 AM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 02, 2020, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 02, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
-All smoking and tobacco
-All negative portrayals of African-Americans

JJ Evans. Esther Rolle even left the show over his character.

John Amos left the show before she did, for the same reason.  Whether he quit or was let go depends on who you ask.  Interestingly, Rolle was more outspoken over her dissatisfaction of the show moving away from serious issues and concentrating on Jimmie Walker's one-dimensional comedy antics, but it was Amos who drew the producers' wrath.

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 02, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
-All smoking and tobacco

You still see some smoking.  What's amusing on really old black-and-white TV is seeing people smoking in hospitals.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on January 03, 2020, 10:52:08 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on December 30, 2019, 01:18:59 PM
a word that starts with a w that refers to an illegal immigrant

Quote from: roadman on December 30, 2019, 01:47:08 PM
"The answer to every farmer's prayers.  A mechanized w."

Wisconsinite

Just type the word instead of pussy-footing around it.

(I've waded across the Rio Grande before, approximately here (https://goo.gl/maps/pkaeQGiaH37x21uQ8).  Does that make me a Wisconsinite?)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on January 03, 2020, 03:10:22 PM
Good times:

Throughout seasons two and three, Rolle and Amos grew increasingly disillusioned with the direction of the show and especially with J.J.'s antics and stereotypically buffoonish behavior.[7] Rolle was vocal about her hate of his character. In a 1975 interview with Ebony magazine she stated:


He's 18 and he doesn't work. He can't read or write. He doesn't think. The show didn't start out to be that...Little by little–with the help of the artist, I suppose, because they couldn't do that to me–they have made J.J. more stupid and enlarged the role. Negative images have been slipped in on us through the character of the oldest child.[8]

Although doing so less publicly, Amos also was outspoken about his dissatisfaction with the J.J. character. Amos stated:


The writers would prefer to put a chicken hat on J.J. and have him prance around saying "DY-NO-MITE", and that way they could waste a few minutes and not have to write meaningful dialogue.[9]
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on January 03, 2020, 07:15:42 PM
It seems that even Jimmie Walker himself got tired of his character over the decades. When he tried to announce his new book, the news anchor kept insisting that he perform his Famous (or perhaps Infamous) hyperactive "DynaMITE!". He kept telling her that he did not want to. Ironically, the book is named "Dyn-o-mite!"

The J.J. character has been parodied at least once. The English dub of the first 105 episodes of Gatchaman they changed the character Jinpei (similar sounding names also) to mimic J.J. half the time.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on January 04, 2020, 12:28:38 AM
JJ stood for Jar Jar :)
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: PHLBOS on January 06, 2020, 08:57:00 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PMHow about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?
One line in a Season 3 episode of Lost In Space (original version, The Promised Planet episode) had both Will & Penny bargaining w/Dr. Smith, who's wearing a long-haired wig & hippie medallions, uttering the phrase (to Smith); You're a hard man.  While the script writers meant such in reference to bargaining; the above-phrase in and of itself can be interpreted a completely different way.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on January 09, 2020, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM

Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike

Leave it to Beaver aired not very many years before the word 'gay' started to be favored by homosexuals, in fact.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: cwf1701 on January 09, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 09, 2020, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM

Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike

Leave it to Beaver aired not very many years before the word 'gay' started to be favored by homosexuals, in fact.

And the word "biscuit" in British slang has a different meaning than in American slang. In Britain, a biscuit is a slang term for a cigarette. I don't they would allow any British show to use the word "biscuit" for cigarette anymore.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SectorZ on January 09, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 09, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 09, 2020, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM

Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike

Leave it to Beaver aired not very many years before the word 'gay' started to be favored by homosexuals, in fact.

And the word "bundle of sticks" in British slang has a different meaning than in American slang. In Britain, a bundle of sticks is a slang term for a cigarette. I don't they would allow any British show to use the word "bundle of sticks" for cigarette anymore.

I don't know, it's still pretty common to Brits. In Ozzy Osbourne's recent autobiography he uses the word well over a dozen times (in its cigarette related context).
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on January 09, 2020, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 09, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 09, 2020, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM

Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike

Leave it to Beaver aired not very many years before the word 'gay' started to be favored by homosexuals, in fact.

And the word "bundle of sticks" in British slang has a different meaning than in American slang. In Britain, a bundle of sticks is a slang term for a cigarette. I don't they would allow any British show to use the word "bundle of sticks" for cigarette anymore.

I thought bundle of sticks was a cigarette

Thanks to whoever edited this and completely changed the meaning :P
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Bluenoser on January 10, 2020, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike

And speaking of "Gay"...
I'm one of those strange creatures known as a TV Guide collector...I have a copy of the Nebraska edition from the mid-50s, where a station aired a local music show where the house band was named...the Gay Heinies! :-D
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on January 10, 2020, 11:23:17 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
How about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?

Or when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?

Mike

My dad had a major problem with (as he believed)  homosexuals perverting the word "gay".
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on January 10, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 09, 2020, 07:30:04 PM
I thought bundle of sticks was a cigarette

Correct.  Sort of.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: US71 on January 18, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
I wonder if Mushmouse and Punkin' Puss would be allowed today?



Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on January 19, 2020, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: US71 on January 18, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
I wonder if Mushmouse and Punkin' Puss would be allowed today?





I wondered the same question about that Popeye short titled "Pop-Pie a la mode".
https://popeye.fandom.com/wiki/Pop-Pie_a_la_Mode
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5utss0
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: PHLBOS on January 21, 2020, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 08, 2020, 09:37:26 PMOr when 'gay' was just way of saying 'happy and festive'?
Though not-TV-related per se, but the word junk has had an additional meaning for about a decade-and-a-half to two decades now (I will not elaborate, but most here certainly know).  I only bring such up because while I was making an appointment for 1-800-GOT-JUNK; one prompt lists Tell Us About Your Junk.

Obviously, such means to list/describe what furniture pieces & such for them to take; but, man somebody could have a field-day with that line.  One has to wonder if that site indeed has received some wild replies.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on January 21, 2020, 03:34:04 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 06, 2020, 08:57:00 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 04, 2020, 03:17:15 PMHow about words that have a different meaning today than when the show first aired. If they did a new "Leave It to Beaver", Could they have June day "Ward, was you a little hard on the Beaver"?
One line in a Season 3 episode of Lost In Space (original version, The Promised Planet episode) had both Will & Penny bargaining w/Dr. Smith, who's wearing a long-haired wig & hippie medallions, uttering the phrase (to Smith); You're a hard man.  While the script writers meant such in reference to bargaining; the above-phrase in and of itself can be interpreted a completely different way.

I might as well bring another one up. ... Star Trek's first pilot movie The Cage was filmed In Living Color in 1964. I was shocked when one of the Talosian demanded that Captain Pike choose a mate.

They found two women from his crew. One of them is Majel Barrett, voice of the computer, Suspiria, actress for Christine Chapel, Deanna's Mother, and Number One ... who seems to be closer in age to Pike.

Laurel Goodwin's character J. M. Colt is the other woman the Talosians found. It seems that she is much younger than Number One. ... perhaps in her early 20s. But it is as if she is young enough to be Pike and Number One's daughter. When describing Colt they brought up her "unusually strong female drives" referring to fertility as well as a potential mate for Pike. It is probably not good to say it today, but it is very shocking that they brought it up in 1964.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: dvferyance on January 21, 2020, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2020, 10:52:08 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on December 30, 2019, 01:18:59 PM
a word that starts with a w that refers to an illegal immigrant

Quote from: roadman on December 30, 2019, 01:47:08 PM
"The answer to every farmer's prayers.  A mechanized w."

Wisconsinite

Just type the word instead of pussy-footing around it.

(I've waded across the Rio Grande before, approximately here (https://goo.gl/maps/pkaeQGiaH37x21uQ8).  Does that make me a Wisconsinite?)
I felt better about not taking that chance I thought I would play it safe. I am from Milwaukee where local talk show host Mark Belling was suspended for using that word
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on January 21, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?

I didn't catch the specifics, but in today's show Rush Limbaugh mentioned something about a local commentator somewhere who was recently fired for saying that there are two biological genders in the human species (ie, something about the physical XX and XY thing).

:rolleyes:

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on January 21, 2020, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 21, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?

I didn't catch the specifics, but in today's show Rush Limbaugh mentioned something about a local commentator somewhere who was recently fired for saying that there are two biological genders in the human species (ie, something about the physical XX and XY thing).

:rolleyes:

Mike

It does not surprise me at all!  Ever since ole Barack left office, this society has been mixed up and turned upside down.  At one time we kept religion and politics out of conversations.  Now people can't wait to voice their opinions about something political and tell someone to f*** off if the other person supports a candidate or a cause that differs from their own.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Scott5114 on January 22, 2020, 03:48:02 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 21, 2020, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 21, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?

I didn't catch the specifics, but in today's show Rush Limbaugh mentioned something about a local commentator somewhere who was recently fired for saying that there are two biological genders in the human species (ie, something about the physical XX and XY thing).

:rolleyes:

Mike

It does not surprise me at all!  Ever since ole Barack left office, this society has been mixed up and turned upside down.  At one time we kept religion and politics out of conversations.  Now people can't wait to voice their opinions about something political and tell someone to f*** off if the other person supports a candidate or a cause that differs from their own.

Like you just did?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on January 22, 2020, 07:11:54 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 21, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?

I didn't catch the specifics, but in today's show Rush Limbaugh mentioned something about a local commentator somewhere who was recently fired for saying that there are two biological genders in the human species (ie, something about the physical XX and XY thing).

:rolleyes:

Mike

I just wasn't made for these times
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on January 22, 2020, 02:40:30 PM
The Bob Newhart Show tried anything with comedy.

Getting this one out of the way first:

In the episode Jerry's Retirement, Emily says "Heil Whitler!" and the episode ends with her in a troll face. I do not think this is offensive, but perhaps it is today. But the worse jokes are in the first two seasons.

Occasionally they would go to a restaurant and act kinda ignorant. In Bob and Emily and Howard And Carol And Jerry. There was the Japanese Restaurant, but that was Howard goofing up on a date. Even though he has been to Japan many times. Pat Morita, Shizuko Hoshi, and James Hong.

There was the time in Over The River And Through The Woods they drunk dialed mumbling Moo Goo Gai Pan over and over again. ... The Chinese Restaurant did not mind. They simply delivered multiple dishes and billed him. David Himes.

Beginning with Emily I'm Home -- Emily?, The Hartleys are supposed to have a weekly maid Marina (Alma Bertran) ... a slightly tanned Spanish Speaking woman that does not speak any English at all. Some how Emily hired her. Bob on the other hand has very weak Spanish. Today this would be considered cheap.

And also The Bob Newhart Show is set in Chicago ... North Chicago ... and Edgewater, Illinois. Even so Bob Newhart had Native Africans as his patients in several episodes. The first episode is Not With My Sister You Don't, about a man (Mr. Dabney, Mel Stewart) with unexplained anger issues that he blames Caucasians. But after he explodes in the stair well be cause he failed to catch an elevator he forgets the whole thing and agrees to continue seeing Dr. Hartley. But since he is a recurring patient, why does he not return in other episodes?

The episode You Can't Win 'Em All has Phil Bender (a fictional character) depicted quite heroically. Jim Watkins / Julian Christopher.

But in the episode Blues For Mr. Borden they tried to tell the first joke (from Not With My Sister You Don't) a second time, but simply is not funny the second time. It is not the same character nor actor, but it is about another angry man (Mr. Billings, Julius Harris). Just as the first angry patient, he is on for only one scene. They never go in depth about any of his problems. Instead they gloss over the same thing as he did with Mr. Dabney earlier. The only thing they added was some type of warrior costume for the third patient as well as a guard dog named Whitey. Perhaps named after the poem Whitey On The Moon. ... As the patient leaves he tells his dog to sit, as a result Jerry cowers to them. This time I never laughed. While this scene is supposed to be memorable, it seems that everybody remembers it wrong.

The episode My Business Is Shrinking has Ron McIlwain as Wayne Jefferson, another athlete who motivated Dr. Hartley.

The episode We Love You Good Bye has Ann Weldon as Adele Sinclair, a positive character in a woman only group. This is the first episode with a Native African Person in more than one scene.

The episode Here's To You, Mrs. Robinson has a Native African Couple. Fred D. Scott has a few lines.

The episode Desperate Sessions (a very spooky episode, as well as the elevator scene from Mary Tyler Moore's Christmas And The Hard Luck Kid) has a Native African couple in the background.

The next two episodes Ex Con Job and Son Of An Ex Con Job is about Bob working in a prison. These are perhaps the most sincere episodes. Entire episodes (two of them) instead of only scenes. One of the guys (Arthur Tatum) goes to their place which Emily offers him coffee. She asks him without pausing: "How do you like your coffee? Black?" with him replying "You can call me Tatum." These lines deserve more laughs, with Reuben asking if the P.R. guy (Pubic Relations) is a Puerto Rican in second place. Allen Case as Steve Kopelson, Ric Mancini as Al Brolio, Bert Rosario as Reuben Ortiz, Wyatt Johnson as Richard Hawkins, and Taurean Blacque as Arthur Tatum.

I might be completely wrong, but it seems like during the first two seasons of The Bob Newhart Show they were not afraid to tell many jokes no matter what.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: GenExpwy on January 22, 2020, 02:45:02 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 21, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?

I didn't catch the specifics, but in today's show Rush Limbaugh mentioned something about a local commentator somewhere who was recently fired for saying that there are two biological genders in the human species (ie, something about the physical XX and XY thing).

:rolleyes:

Mike

Jon Caldara, columnist for the Denver Post.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on January 22, 2020, 03:09:57 PM
The Rookies episode A Farewell Tree From Marly. The word that they used to describe her as Retarded.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Rothman on January 22, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 22, 2020, 02:45:02 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 21, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
A radio talk show host using provocative language?  Oh, the humanity!

Can't have that in snowflake America, now can we?

I didn't catch the specifics, but in today's show Rush Limbaugh mentioned something about a local commentator somewhere who was recently fired for saying that there are two biological genders in the human species (ie, something about the physical XX and XY thing).

:rolleyes:

Mike

Jon Caldara, columnist for the Denver Post.
You let "gender" out your mouth, you will pay the price if you don't know the difference between sex and gender.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on January 22, 2020, 04:31:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 22, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
You let "gender" out your mouth, you will pay the price if you don't know the difference between sex and gender.

:rolleyes:

Quote from: Merriam Webster
gender

noun

2a: SEX sense 1a

Quote from: Merriam Webster
sex

noun

1a: either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Rothman on January 22, 2020, 05:18:10 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 22, 2020, 04:31:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 22, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
You let "gender" out your mouth, you will pay the price if you don't know the difference between sex and gender.

:rolleyes:

Quote from: Merriam Webster
gender

noun

2a: SEX sense 1a

Quote from: Merriam Webster
sex

noun

1a: either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
Don't go into journalism.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: GaryV on January 22, 2020, 05:43:23 PM
The Smothers Brothers.



Oh wait.  They weren't allowed back then either.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Terry on January 22, 2020, 06:11:09 PM
Haven't watched this for quite a while but Bizarre would never be shown on TV. Starring John Byner and Bob Einstein (his alter ego Super Dave Osborne was first popularized on the show).

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080200/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_29

There's various clips on Youtube: https://www.google.ca/search?q=bizarre+john+byner&newwindow=1&sxsrf=ACYBGNRGJ7BsgXyzYvxXU-zfn8Xt1obVjQ:1579734169927&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOx6awqJjnAhUJHjQIHYzVAqEQ_AUoAXoECFEQAw&biw=1366&bih=625
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: In_Correct on January 22, 2020, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 22, 2020, 05:18:10 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 22, 2020, 04:31:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 22, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
You let "gender" out your mouth, you will pay the price if you don't know the difference between sex and gender.

:rolleyes:

Quote from: Merriam Webster
gender

noun

2a: SEX sense 1a

Quote from: Merriam Webster
sex

noun

1a: either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
Don't go into journalism.

Journalism is silly. They deliberately avoid The Serial Comma.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Scott5114 on January 22, 2020, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 22, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
The people telling you gender and sex are different are also the ones telling you there are 342 genders

Do not continue this discussion. The forum rules are being amended. Stand by.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: NE2 on January 22, 2020, 11:41:41 PM
I'm bringing gender back.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Alps on January 22, 2020, 11:50:40 PM
Go search Youtube for the racist Mickey Mouse cartoons.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on January 23, 2020, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: Alps on January 22, 2020, 11:50:40 PM
Go search Youtube for the racist Mickey Mouse cartoons.

Not only racist Mickey Mouse, there was also racist Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Popeye cartoons as well. They're on Dailymotion if you can't find them on Youtube.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on January 23, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: In_Correct on January 22, 2020, 06:18:44 PM
Journalism is silly. They deliberately avoid The Serial Comma.

But can we continue this discussion?   :awesomeface:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: mgk920 on January 23, 2020, 01:44:08 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on January 23, 2020, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: Alps on January 22, 2020, 11:50:40 PM
Go search Youtube for the racist Mickey Mouse cartoons.

Not only racist Mickey Mouse, there was also racist Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Popeye cartoons as well. They're on Dailymotion if you can't find them on Youtube.

You mean that they escaped from the clutches of Disney™?  It will be very interesting, indeed, when those copyrights (Finally, as Congress has shown no interest in any further protection term extensions) start to expire!

:-o

Mike
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Stephane Dumas on January 23, 2020, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 23, 2020, 01:44:08 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on January 23, 2020, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: Alps on January 22, 2020, 11:50:40 PM
Go search Youtube for the racist Mickey Mouse cartoons.

Not only racist Mickey Mouse, there was also racist Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Popeye cartoons as well. They're on Dailymotion if you can't find them on Youtube.

You mean that they escaped from the clutches of Disney™?  It will be very interesting, indeed, when those copyrights (Finally, as Congress has shown no interest in any further protection term extensions) start to expire!

:-o

Mike

Here some of them, it also escaped the clutches of Warner Bros, Paramount, MGM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWAf3dQxAfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZkcsIb2l3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LgUPJG9eOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSSkeb6qdCI
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on January 24, 2020, 08:14:50 AM
Zip a dee doo dah
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: KEVIN_224 on January 26, 2020, 07:46:57 PM
1:35 into the third linked cartoon. The one with Daffy, Shultz and the other guy...Notice the woman's picture on the bunker wall?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on December 13, 2022, 06:34:39 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=jan+brady+im+not+a+creep&client=safari&hl=en&sxsrf=ALiCzsYy49OVjqxwepan25mhWpXVgStjog:1670930432959&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZkpr3vPb7AhUPRTABHSXJDrgQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1121&bih=1352&dpr=2#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f3589910,vid:TKXzUAb5om0

Actually it's more conceptual here, than not allowed. SNL could get away with airing that as a funny, but in regular situation comedy, they wouldn't even think of writing that in a script due to offending not so much the clergy and the US Bishops, but the victims over the years.  However, if it were written it would be not allowed. sNL is a different story due to its being a parody, although I can see a group within the Church protesting against (though not able to get anywhere with it) SNL if they used that Brady Bunch scene as a template for a skit.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 22, 2020, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 22, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
The people telling you gender and sex are different are also the ones telling you there are 342 genders

Do not continue this discussion. The forum rules are being amended. Stand by.

Clicked on this thread after not having done so for three years.

Which forum rule was amended as a result of this discussion?

Is there now a rule against discussing definitions of words?  :-D

Quote from: kphoger on January 23, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: In_Correct on January 22, 2020, 06:18:44 PM
Journalism is silly. They deliberately avoid The Serial Comma.

But can we continue this discussion?   :awesomeface:

This former journalist, now a PR practitioner in an agency that uses AP style with certain exceptions (such as capitalizing the word "Governor" even if a name is not used, and not abbreviating the word as "Gov." when used before the name of the person holding the office) has made his own exception and now uses the serial comma, also known as the Oxford comma.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PM
I see this is an old thread but will continue.

I have never understood the title of this thread.  I have heard people say this all the time.  "You can't do that on today's TV!"

Frankly, I think it's absurd.

What I mean by that is this:
I get where the people that say that are referring to slurs that weren't slurs when the shows aired but are not.  They are referring to terms that more recently became a term but were not that term when the show aired. 

When I hear people say that I think of the shows I watched growing up and of course the FCC regulations.

I think of The Andy Griffith Show, Green Acres, I Dream of Genie and Bewitched going all the way up to the 90s.  I think about the more wholesome world these shows belonged in and then think of the shows on network television in the past 25 years.  Everything now is police drama or first world drama.  They talk about sexual assault on Law and Order, SVU.  The FCC guidelines have gotten so relaxed, hell, damn, bitch and even words about genitalia are permissible.  There will be strategic scenes of implied nudity.  There will be bloody scenes and hospital scenes referring to rape and talk of an abortion.  I am not saying any of this bother me personally, but I think about how all of this wouldn't be expectable even in the mid 90s.  I remember the Simpsons episode "Brush with Greatness", Marge paints Mr. Burns in the nude and the show runners of the show said they got a lot of flack from the censors for using the word genitalia at the end when Mr. Burns talks about the painting.  The broadest and least descriptive word for that subject and they were having a fit.  Now, you can call it whatever you want, and I am just talking about network TV.  Now with the world of streaming services that have television series on them, now you basically can do whatever you want with zero censorship.  You have "TV" shows with a thousand F-bombs, sex and nudity all over the place. 

I just don't remember the Family Matters episode with an extended sex scene in it or that one episode of Newhart when Dick went on an F-bomb laced tirade.  I say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: SectorZ on December 13, 2022, 02:53:15 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PM
I see this is an old thread but will continue.

I have never understood the title of this thread.  I have heard people say this all the time.  "You can't do that on today's TV!"

Frankly, I think it's absurd.

What I mean by that is this:
I get where the people that say that are referring to slurs that weren't slurs when the shows aired but are not.  They are referring to terms that more recently became a term but were not that term when the show aired. 

When I hear people say that I think of the shows I watched growing up and of course the FCC regulations.

I think of The Andy Griffith Show, Green Acres, I Dream of Genie and Bewitched going all the way up to the 90s.  I think about the more wholesome world these shows belonged in and then think of the shows on network television in the past 25 years.  Everything now is police drama or first world drama.  They talk about sexual assault on Law and Order, SVU.  The FCC guidelines have gotten so relaxed, hell, damn, bitch and even words about genitalia are permissible.  There will be strategic scenes of implied nudity.  There will be bloody scenes and hospital scenes referring to rape and talk of an abortion.  I am not saying any of this bother me personally, but I think about how all of this wouldn't be expectable even in the mid 90s.  I remember the Simpsons episode "Brush with Greatness", Marge paints Mr. Burns in the nude and the show runners of the show said they got a lot of flack from the censors for using the word genitalia at the end when Mr. Burns talks about the painting.  The broadest and least descriptive word for that subject and they were having a fit.  Now, you can call it whatever you want, and I am just talking about network TV.  Now with the world of streaming services that have television series on them, now you basically can do whatever you want with zero censorship.  You have "TV" shows with a thousand F-bombs, sex and nudity all over the place. 

I just don't remember the Family Matters episode with an extended sex scene in it or that one episode of Newhart when Dick went on an F-bomb laced tirade.  I say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

Vulgarity and political correctness have been taking parallel tracks but riding past each other instead of with each other over the 70 years of TV.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on December 13, 2022, 03:58:58 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 01:46:01 PM
Which forum rule was amended as a result of this discussion?

Is there now a rule against discussing definitions of words?  :-D

Nope.  Just "discriminatory comments" and "disparaging or offensive content".

Quote from: SectorZ on December 13, 2022, 02:53:15 PM
Vulgarity and political correctness have been taking parallel tracks but riding past each other instead of with each other over the 70 years of TV.

There's a certain irony in there, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PMI say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

This is my thought as well. Back in the day, married heterosexual couples weren't even shown sleeping in the same bed. Now, it's not uncommon to see homosexual couples.

And the language has definitely loosened up, but there are quite a few obvious double standards. It's not uncommon to hear the s-word on "On Patrol Live" even though it's on a profanity delay, but that same word is omitted from Clark Griswold's rant about his boss in "Christmas Vacation." Now, it goes straight from "Hallelujah" to "where's the Tylenol?"
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on December 14, 2022, 06:43:47 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=jan+brady+im+not+a+creep&client=safari&hl=en&sxsrf=ALiCzsYy49OVjqxwepan25mhWpXVgStjog:1670930432959&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZkpr3vPb7AhUPRTABHSXJDrgQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1121&bih=1352&dpr=2#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f3589910,vid:TKXzUAb5om0

Actually it's more conceptual here, than not allowed. SNL could get away with airing that as a funny, but in regular situation comedy, they wouldn't even think of writing that in a script due to offending not so much the clergy and the US Bishops, but the victims over the years.  However, if it were written it would be not allowed. sNL is a different story due to its being a parody, although I can see a group within the Church protesting against (though not able to get anywhere with it) SNL if they used that Brady Bunch scene as a template for a skit.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Rothman on December 14, 2022, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PMI say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

This is my thought as well. Back in the day, married heterosexual couples weren't even shown sleeping in the same bed. Now, it's not uncommon to see homosexual couples.

And the language has definitely loosened up, but there are quite a few obvious double standards. It's not uncommon to hear the s-word on "On Patrol Live" even though it's on a profanity delay, but that same word is omitted from Clark Griswold's rant about his boss in "Christmas Vacation." Now, it goes straight from "Hallelujah" to "where's the Tylenol?"
Are we comparing homosexuality to vulgarity?
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: hbelkins on December 14, 2022, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 14, 2022, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PMI say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

This is my thought as well. Back in the day, married heterosexual couples weren't even shown sleeping in the same bed. Now, it's not uncommon to see homosexual couples.

And the language has definitely loosened up, but there are quite a few obvious double standards. It's not uncommon to hear the s-word on "On Patrol Live" even though it's on a profanity delay, but that same word is omitted from Clark Griswold's rant about his boss in "Christmas Vacation." Now, it goes straight from "Hallelujah" to "where's the Tylenol?"
Are we comparing homosexuality to vulgarity?

No, we're talking about things that you never saw on TV years ago but are commonplace now.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 14, 2022, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 14, 2022, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PMI say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

This is my thought as well. Back in the day, married heterosexual couples weren't even shown sleeping in the same bed. Now, it's not uncommon to see homosexual couples.

And the language has definitely loosened up, but there are quite a few obvious double standards. It's not uncommon to hear the s-word on "On Patrol Live" even though it's on a profanity delay, but that same word is omitted from Clark Griswold's rant about his boss in "Christmas Vacation." Now, it goes straight from "Hallelujah" to "where's the Tylenol?"
Are we comparing homosexuality to vulgarity?

No, we're talking about things that you never saw on TV years ago but are commonplace now.
No one has ever been able to explain (to me, anyway) how it is that I can say 'ass', and i can say 'hole'., but eliminate one space, and suddenly it's bad.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: MikieTimT on December 14, 2022, 02:41:52 PM
Fat Albert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiWEyUMm5Lo)

Characters and Bill Cosby would find offense today, but was on Saturday mornings in my childhood on one of the 4 over the air channels our rabbit ears would pick up.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Henry on December 14, 2022, 08:12:10 PM
In a recent interview, The Office star Mindy Kaling revealed that most of the content would be offensive in today's world. Given that it ended less than a decade ago, the series is still too new to be called classic TV, even though it has enjoyed a second life in cable reruns.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: thenetwork on December 14, 2022, 08:27:12 PM
I've been watching several TV series from Australia and New Zealand, and I am amazed at what language they let fly.  Great Britain has a few words they can freely say that are barely said here in the US.

The only thing I've seen stand out is the word s#!t, which is allowed on most non-pay movie channels now.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: hbelkins on December 15, 2022, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 14, 2022, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 14, 2022, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PMI say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

This is my thought as well. Back in the day, married heterosexual couples weren't even shown sleeping in the same bed. Now, it's not uncommon to see homosexual couples.

And the language has definitely loosened up, but there are quite a few obvious double standards. It's not uncommon to hear the s-word on "On Patrol Live" even though it's on a profanity delay, but that same word is omitted from Clark Griswold's rant about his boss in "Christmas Vacation." Now, it goes straight from "Hallelujah" to "where's the Tylenol?"
Are we comparing homosexuality to vulgarity?

No, we're talking about things that you never saw on TV years ago but are commonplace now.
No one has ever been able to explain (to me, anyway) how it is that I can say 'ass', and i can say 'hole'., but eliminate one space, and suddenly it's bad.

It's odd how the word "ass" is treated in the TV edit of "Christmas Vacation." I can't remember if  Clark refers to Eddie as a "dumbass" or an "asshole" when he spots him emptying the sewer of his tenement on wheels into the storm drain. But only the word "ass" can be heard in the TV edit. I know it's not treated the same as the word in the "jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the nuthouse" rant.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 15, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 13, 2022, 02:41:25 PMI say, you can't do a tenth of what you do now if you were producing a show in the 20th century.  I say you have it backwards.

This is my thought as well. Back in the day, married heterosexual couples weren't even shown sleeping in the same bed. Now, it's not uncommon to see homosexual couples.

And the language has definitely loosened up, but there are quite a few obvious double standards. It's not uncommon to hear the s-word on "On Patrol Live" even though it's on a profanity delay, but that same word is omitted from Clark Griswold's rant about his boss in "Christmas Vacation." Now, it goes straight from "Hallelujah" to "where's the Tylenol?"

My favorite was back in the early 90s, the TV broadcast on USA (a cable network, not even network TV) of the movie "Major League".  In the theatrical version, right before Harris take the shot of rum, he says, "Up your butt JoBu." but on the TV broadcast they edited this to "Up your bucket JoBu."  Now days the word ass would be completely acceptable, especially on a cable network, but maybe the censors had an issue with the preceding "up your". 

So, when I hear "you can't do what you used to on TV in today's world" line, I laugh and think, the word butt was censored in a movie when it aired ON CABLE in the 90s!
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: roadman65 on December 23, 2022, 05:52:53 PM
All In The Family now, which was controversial when it first aired, would not be allowed today.

Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on December 23, 2022, 10:02:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
Smoking is minimal.

A group of 4 friends has about 78 races and nationalities among them, in order not to offend anyone.

Remember many years ago the biggest issue was glasses?  Usually a group of kids had at least one wearing glasses, so that kids with glasses watching the show would feel like they would fit in.

If friends aired today they'd have a black character, an asian character, and a gay character in the group of 6
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on December 23, 2022, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.

Funky KICKS
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: texaskdog on December 23, 2022, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 29, 2017, 05:57:24 AM
It all is about political stuff not the gore.   For example watch the Honeymooners, an old sitcom starring Jackie Gleason aired in the mid 50's, and you will see the humor on that show featured Ralph Kramden who was a hot head and loved to threaten his wife by sending her to the moon.   Although we as the viewers always knew he would never physically hurt her as he loved her deeply, it was funny to see him raise his fist to her face and even sometimes use the catchphrase " Bang Zoom" and then use his hands to show the audience that he was sending her flying through the air (presumably to the moon).  Now of course that would be not allowed as that would be considered offensive to many and considered as promoting violence.

All In The Family would not be allowed today as the remarks on the show made by key character Archie Bunker would be considered advocating racism despite at the time of its viewing it was considered by many blacks and other minorities to be a milestone as it brought out subjects that the original TV networks would never allow to be used as topics for any TV show.  Many praised creator Norman Lear, even Star Trek's LeVar Burton, for bringing sex and racism controversy out into the open and ending the rural purge that CBS once had only promoting old fashioned conservative ideals.

Ultimately he was portrayed as kind of a buffoon and eventually befriended George Jefferson and others and mellowed out
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: abefroman329 on December 24, 2022, 08:25:54 AM
Quote from: texaskdog on December 23, 2022, 10:02:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
Smoking is minimal.

A group of 4 friends has about 78 races and nationalities among them, in order not to offend anyone.

Remember many years ago the biggest issue was glasses?  Usually a group of kids had at least one wearing glasses, so that kids with glasses watching the show would feel like they would fit in.

If friends aired today they'd have a black character, an asian character, and a gay character in the group of 6
By all accounts, Chandler was supposed to have been gay, but network TV wasn't ready for that in 1994.

I have this theory that the premise of My Two Dads makes a lot more sense if you pretend it's about a gay couple adopting a teenage girl.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: skluth on December 24, 2022, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: texaskdog on December 23, 2022, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 16, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Not TV, but just heard Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on the radio.  Now, most stations edit the second verse because it contains 3 instances of the British word for cigarette.  Yet, Ill regularly hear the other F word unedited when I hear Who Are You? by The Who.
To my knowledge, WKLR in Richmond does the opposite. Who Are You is censored and Money For Nothing still has cigarettes.
What about the Steve Miller Band's Jet Airliner and Pink Floyd's Money? Both songs mention BS in their lyrics, although the former is often edited to "funky stuff"; I don't know about the latter.

Funky KICKS
In Money, only "Bull" makes it past the censor on the 45. The shit is just edited out; at least it was on the version played by my local radio stations. I was in high school and couldn't afford the album at first so it surprised me when I first heard the unedited version. The Money 45 was edited pretty seamlessly, especially when you compare it to the hack editing back then. To edit the Doors Light My Fire down to a single, they just hacked out most of the instrumental and it's not a clean edit. Even if you'd never heard the song it sounds like someone screwed up the edit.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on December 24, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
Smoking is minimal.

It cracks me up, when I'm watching a show on Netflix, and it lists "Smoking" as a parental advisory–but there are multiple scenes of people drinking alcohol without such a warning.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: Takumi on December 24, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 24, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
Smoking is minimal.

It cracks me up, when I'm watching a show on Netflix, and it lists "Smoking" as a parental advisory–but there are multiple scenes of people drinking alcohol without such a warning.

Please drink.





















Responsibly.
Title: Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
Post by: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 12:12:04 PM
We just watched Mrs Doubtfire as a family last night.  My wife and I were telling our older two sons that we both remember how, when the movie first came out, there was controversy surrounding the ending lines:

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There are all sorts of different families, Katie.  Some families have one mommy, some families have one daddy, or two families.  Some children live with their uncle or aunt.  Some live with their grandparents, and some children live with foster parents.  Some live in separate homes and neighborhoods in different areas of the country.  They may not see each other for days, weeks, months or even years at a time.  But if there's love, dear, those are the ties that bind.

It isn't that there was a gay couple in the movie that we remember being controversial, but specifically the lines quoted above.  This is because we all heard as stopping just one step short of saying "some families have two mommies and that's OK", and the implication was clear enough to get people talking.  I don't think a movie could have done that a whole lot earlier than 1993.  So anyway, we were talking about that last, after the movie and before bedtime, and I remarked how quaint that all seems now, in today's cultural climate.  Compared to the messaging of today's shows, that was nothing.  I started to exclaim that I was surprised such a shift had occurred in such a short amount of time, in just...  And then I realized 1993 was 29 years ago.  We paused at that point, and we felt old.  Then I did the math:  in 1993, a 29-year-old movie would have been Mary Poppins or My Fair Lady or The Pink Panther.  That really put things in perspective.