Most Unnecessary Interstate

[OCGuy81]

I-39. The alignment is necesary, but it's either US 51 or I90/94 for its whole route.

So long as we're in Wisconsin,  there's the matter of I 41

[Roadgeekteen]

I-39. The alignment is necesary, but it's either US 51 or I90/94 for its whole route.

So long as we're in Wisconsin,  there's the matter of I 41

I-39 in Wisconsin is pretty much useless but in Illinois it is important enough to be an interstate.

[ilpt4u]

I-39. The alignment is necesary, but it's either US 51 or I90/94 for its whole route.

So long as we're in Wisconsin,  there's the matter of I 41

I-39 in Wisconsin is pretty much useless but in Illinois it is important enough to be an interstate.

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

[Roadgeekteen]

I-39. The alignment is necesary, but it's either US 51 or I90/94 for its whole route.

So long as we're in Wisconsin,  there's the matter of I 41

I-39 in Wisconsin is pretty much useless but in Illinois it is important enough to be an interstate.

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

Also a northern extension to US 2 in Ironwood.

[inkyatari]

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

Also a northern extension to US 2 in Ironwood.

Unless they build an interstate across the UP, I don't ever see that happening.  Makes more sense to angle it to the Duluth metro, but that will never happen either.


That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

[Roadgeekteen]

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

Also a northern extension to US 2 in Ironwood.

Unless they build an interstate across the UP, I don't ever see that happening.  Makes more sense to angle it to the Duluth metro, but that will never happen either.


That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

I would upgrade US 53 to give Duluth freeway access from the east.

[kphoger]

I-39. The alignment is necesary, but it's either US 51 or I90/94 for its whole route.

So long as we're in Wisconsin,  there's the matter of I 41

I-39 in Wisconsin is pretty much useless but in Illinois it is important enough to be an interstate.

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

I thought we'd had this discussion on the forum before.  Took some digging.

Re: US-51 ...

Having driven US-51 all the way from Rockford to Sandoval before, and having driven it with great frequency at all points from from there on south for work (I was a delivery driver in southern Illinois) I would agree that four lanes anywhere north between Pana and Sandoval might be overkill. But I would support it down to Pana.

Well, I would support a four lane U.S 51.......................... if it were built as a fully access controlled facility (Interstate standards) and brought down to hook up with I-57 north of Salem (like the original FAP 412 corridor proposed), but since we all know that will not happen, I'd say forget it. If you can't build like that, it's not worth it at all. IDOT can focus the money on more priority issues like the U.S 20 and 67 corridors. Nonetheless, I DO think IDOT ought to take another look at U.S 51 between Bloomington and Decatur for possibly building a new freeway or fixing the existing expressway (i.e properly bypassing Clinton and Forsyth, which if you do that, might as well build the whole corridor as a freeway).

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

Also a northern extension to US 2 in Ironwood.

Unless they build an interstate across the UP, I don't ever see that happening.  Makes more sense to angle it to the Duluth metro, but that will never happen either.


That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

I would upgrade US 53 to give Duluth freeway access from the east.

Probably not necessary, though it would help to clean up some of the intersections along the surface street portion of 2/53 and maybe get the speed limit up to 45-50 from the current 35.

There's quite a bit of push to 4-lane US 2 across northern WI, but a freeway would be overkill.

[20160805]

Probably never gonna happen, but would love to see it making it further South in IL. Start getting it to Decatur/I-72, then Vandalia/I-70, then Salem/I-57

Also a northern extension to US 2 in Ironwood.

Unless they build an interstate across the UP, I don't ever see that happening.  Makes more sense to angle it to the Duluth metro, but that will never happen either.


That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

[Beltway]

That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

Does it make you feel like puking?

[20160805]

That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

Does it make you feel like puking?

It doesn't make me feel like puking, no, but it's enough to trigger significant periods of annoyance upon just thinking about it.

[Buffaboy]

Forgot I-790.  It's multiplexed with NY 5 and NY 12 the entire route

The long term plan is to renumber NY-49/ny-365 to I-790.

[fillup420]

I-87 and I-587 in North Carolina. All I hear anyone say about those decisions is, "Why are they changing the number? Those roads have always been 64 and 264".

[ftballfan]

I-73 most likely isn't going to happen. Michigan has no interest in it and I don't think Ohio does either.

IMHO, the only way it ever happens in MI and OH is if it uses the US-23 corridor between Toledo and Flint (it fits in the grid). Also, the NC portion could easily be a 3di or two.

[jp the roadgeek]

That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

Does it make you feel like puking?

I-395 in MD does that for me.  Think I'll slap a 3di on every exit ramp longer than  1/4 mi. 

[TheHighwayMan3561]

all of them

[Beltway]

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

Does it make you feel like puking?

I-395 in MD does that for me.  Think I'll slap a 3di on every exit ramp longer than  1/4 mi. 

I-395 is a complex and expensive-to-build elevated 6-lane freeway spur that provides vital access from I-95 to the central business district of Baltimore.

[sparker]

That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

Does it make you feel like puking?

I-395 in MD does that for me.  Think I'll slap a 3di on every exit ramp longer than  1/4 mi. 

Ha!  Florida beat you to that -- twice in St. Petersburg.  And those were off another 3di rather than the trunk -- talk about insult to injury!

[Flint1979]

There are four I-180's and two of them are a complete waste of space.

[LM117]

I-73 most likely isn't going to happen. Michigan has no interest in it and I don't think Ohio does either.

Virginia isn't interested either, despite Roanoke and Martinsville screaming for it. That part of the state usually gets the shaft.

[Flint1979]

I-73 most likely isn't going to happen. Michigan has no interest in it and I don't think Ohio does either.

Virginia isn't interested either, despite Roanoke and Martinsville screaming for it. That part of the state usually gets the shaft.

The thing is I've traveled to North Carolina and through it from Michigan and it really isn't that hard to get to if you just follow I-77 to the Ohio Turnpike and then over to Toledo and up into Michigan so to me I-73 makes no sense.

[Beltway]

That having been said, I don't know what all the discussion is about.  I-180 in Illinois is the most unneeded and unnecessary interstate in the country.

And I-180 in Wyoming is the most unneeded and unnecessary designation.  Complete slap in the face to the entire Interstate system.

Does it make you feel like puking?

I-395 in MD does that for me.  Think I'll slap a 3di on every exit ramp longer than  1/4 mi. 

Ha!  Florida beat you to that -- twice in St. Petersburg.  And those were off another 3di rather than the trunk -- talk about insult to injury!

I'm not sure what is the problem with urban Interstate spurs.  By definition they are usually short in length and much more expensive to build than rural mainline mileage of similar length, and are very useful connectors.  They were authorized under the national Interstate project and got 90% federal funding.  I suppose they don't -have- to be posted with an Interstate route number, but then again why not?

Plus Interstate auxiliary routes can parent other Interstate auxiliary routes, there are a number of such cases.  MD I-370 and I-795 and NJ I-195 for a few in this area of the country.

[hotdogPi]

I suppose they don't -have- to be posted with an Interstate route number, but then again why not?

Because they're already another route, at least in some cases (I-180 WY, I-587, I-393, etc.). Something that isn't overlapped, like I-381 in Virginia, is fine, except I-375 (FL) should be US 92.

[Beltway]

I-73 most likely isn't going to happen. Michigan has no interest in it and I don't think Ohio does either.

Virginia isn't interested either, despite Roanoke and Martinsville screaming for it. That part of the state usually gets the shaft.

As I have said a number of times, it is a very worthwhile project, except for the $4 billion cost, like how to obtain that level of funding.  Especially when there is a very capable 4-lane divided highway with town bypasses in that corridor (US-220 between NC and I-81).

[Beltway]

I suppose they don't -have- to be posted with an Interstate route number, but then again why not?

Because they're already another route, at least in some cases (I-180 WY, I-587, I-393, etc.). Something that isn't overlapped, like I-381 in Virginia, is fine, except I-375 (FL) should be US 92.

The ones I was thinking of are not overlapped.   I see on a map that it is kinda hard to see where all that US-92 goes in St. Pete.