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ClassicHasClass

I liked the underlined cardinal directions. I don't think I've seen that before.


Scott5114

Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2021, 11:26:30 PM
I liked the underlined cardinal directions. I don't think I've seen that before.

Used to be MDOT standard practice before the concept of small-caps directions made it there, I believe.
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fwydriver405

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Three Maine Turnpike signs:

Maine Welcome Sign* (Mile ~1.1):
July 2004 (source: zacharymaillard)


Sometime when Paul LePage (January 5, 2011 – January 2, 2019) was in office as ME Governor, an "Open for Business" plaque was added (Source: WGME 13, BDN File)


This sign was replaced completely when Janet Mills (January 2, 2019-present) took office as ME Governor, and the slogan was changed to "Welcome Home" (source, Maine Turnpike Authority, January 31, 2019)


"The Way Life Should Be" slogan was reinstated by a new plaque (source, WCSH6, installed during Easter Weekend (April 21, 2019))


*Originally in the late 1950s, the Maine Turnpike was constructed starting around MM 2.2 to the north. In the 1970s, MaineDOT constructed the I-95 bridge over the river and constructed I-95 from the bridge to MM 2.2. In 2015, the Maine Turnpike purchased this section of I-95 from MaineDOT.


Exit 44/45 (old 6 A/7) signs, I-95 (Maine Turnpike) Northbound, Mile 43

November 18, 2001 (before widening and exit renumbering) (source, James D. Teresco)


April 14, 2017 (before Contract 2020.03: Portland Area Widening & Safety Improvements MM 43.0 to MM 46.4)


September 9, 2018 (sometime during the I-295 ramp extension project)


May 5, 2021 (during Contract: 2020.03 Portland Area Widening & Safety Improvements MM 43.0 to MM 46.4)


Not sure if this is allowed per rules, but this is from plans on Contract: 2020.03 Portland Area Widening & Safety Improvements MM 43.0 to MM 46.4. The lane arrows for Exit 44 will be covered with a ½ MILE plaque once the widening project is complete.



Exit 52 (old Exit 9), ½ Mile Signs
Exit 52 (old 9) before exit renumbering and route re-designation in 2004. I-95 was a TOTSO movement, while I-495 started here at its former terminus. Photo by Gary S. Peterson (February 14, 2002) from interstate-guide

Exit 52 (old 9) after exit renumbering and route re-designation in 2004. I-95 now encompasses the entire Maine Turnpike, and I-495 (unsigned) was moved to the Falmouth Spur. Photo from AARoads Photo Gallery (June 30, 2011)

Exit 52, new signs installed with no diagram and metric units removed, taken on December 26, 2017 by me.

wanderer2575

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 05, 2021, 12:55:52 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2021, 11:26:30 PM
I liked the underlined cardinal directions. I don't think I've seen that before.

Used to be MDOT standard practice before the concept of small-caps directions made it there, I believe.

And Clearview.  All three design standard changes came at the same time.  (LEFT tabs and exit arrows in the yellow EXIT ONLY banner field came later.)

JoePCool14

Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 04, 2021, 09:13:28 PM
Westbound M-14 at US-23 in Ann Arbor before sign replacement...


The squared-off corner for the exit sign is on the right when it should be on the left. Nice.

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ClassicHasClass

QuoteExit 52, new signs installed with no diagram and metric units removed,

Interesting. Did MDOT ditch metric signage everywhere, or just there? I remember it being prominent the last time I was in-state, but that was 2006.

fwydriver405

Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 05, 2021, 11:30:40 AM
QuoteExit 52, new signs installed with no diagram and metric units removed,

Interesting. Did MDOT ditch metric signage everywhere, or just there? I remember it being prominent the last time I was in-state, but that was 2006.

Under these contracts, Maine Turnpike 2018.13 Guide Sign Modifications (Phase III) and Maine Turnpike 2019.03 Guide Sign Modifications (Phase IV), all of the metric signage was stripped, all new signs replaced have only miles on them.

I remember asking the Maine Turnpike Authority on March 22, 2020 about that. Here is their reseponse to that:

Quote3. When and why were metric units signed on some of the guide signs on the Turnpike? In addition, why weren’t exits 7, 42, 102 northbound, and 109 ever signed with metric units?   

The quick answer is that it was a Federal Highway Administration guideline that was then removed. The Federal Highway (FHWA) began its conversion process in December 1990 by establishing an FHWA metric work group and setting a Sept. 30, 1996 deadline.  FHWA issued addition guidance regarding the metric conversion in 2001, however in 2008 the FHWA rescinding the requirement to utilize metric units. The Maine Turnpike had a replacement project in 1996 & 1997 resulting in most MTA signs having the metric distances added to them (and since removed in this last round of replacements 20 years later).

I also wrote to NHDOT regarding that in 2018 and they said something similar to what the Maine Turnpike said.

hbelkins

Bluefield, Va., on SR 720 west approaching the ramp to US 460 east:

Old (2016) -- note use of the VA primary marker for secondary 720 and same-size lettering in East

2016 Bluefield Trip, Day 1-190 by H.B. Elkins, on Flickr

New (2021) -- note larger first letter in East and corrected SR 720 marker

IMG_7216 by H.B. Elkins, on Flickr

Old (2016) -- check out the circle sticker pasted over an upside-down US route marker for SR 720 and the US 460 sign and East banner

2016 Bluefield Trip, Day 1-191 by H.B. Elkins, on Flickr

New (2021) -- All signs have been replaced (can't tell about the arrows, though)

IMG_7217 by H.B. Elkins, on Flickr





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LilianaUwU

Quote from: hbelkins on June 02, 2021, 04:59:10 PM
Old (2016) -- check out the circle sticker pasted over an upside-down US route marker for SR 720 and the US 460 sign and East banner

2016 Bluefield Trip, Day 1-191 by H.B. Elkins, on Flickr

New (2021) -- All signs have been replaced (can't tell about the arrows, though)

IMG_7217 by H.B. Elkins, on Flickr

It seems as though the arrows were indeed replaced, as the straight arrow is less squished.
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mrsman

^^^^

While the shield for 720 in the first picture is wrong, it is a very cool shape.

LilianaUwU

Quote from: mrsman on June 04, 2021, 10:55:33 AM
^^^^

While the shield for 720 in the first picture is wrong, it is a very cool shape.

It's actually an upside-down US blank with a circle pasted over it IIRC.
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mrsman

Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: mrsman on June 04, 2021, 10:55:33 AM
^^^^

While the shield for 720 in the first picture is wrong, it is a very cool shape.

It's actually an upside-down US blank with a circle pasted over it IIRC.

It reminds me of upside down pigs head, especially of the cartoon variety.

Albert

US 101 and or 42:

Old sign

            <------->
    42          |     101
                 |
COQUILLE  | BANDON
ROSEBURG | BROOKINGS

New sign

42 EAST | 101 SOUTH
             |
Coquille  | Bandon
Roseburg|Brookings
LEFT LANE|RIGHT LANE
ONLY      |   ONLY

Albert

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on April 27, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
A new game....How about we post a pic of an older sign and the pic of the sign's current replacement. 
The rules are it has to be the same sign and an actual pic. No cheating with GSV. 
You can post more than one version of the older sign.  For example a pic of the current replacement, and then the sign it replaced and the sign that the older one replaced as well.

CT-8 on-ramp in Shelton, CT.

OLD (Sign dates to the 1960s and was up until April 2021)


NEW (sign went up in April 2021)



I would imagine this would be real easy for FL people as they tend to replace signs fast.  I noticed on GSV the I-95 ENDS sign was replaced 3 times in 10 years.
The bottom image was broken. When I open image in a new tab, then it says: 'These aren't the droids you're looking for.' What's the cause, Mergingtraffic?

Scott5114

Quote from: Albert on August 29, 2022, 10:38:13 PM
The bottom image was broken. When I open image in a new tab, then it says: 'These aren't the droids you're looking for.' What's the cause, Mergingtraffic?

The fact that the post you're quoting was posted a year and a half ago probably has something to do with it......
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