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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3250 on: October 03, 2021, 11:57:54 PM »




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When can we expect Google Maps to street view this new bypass?

Seems to me this stretch of interstate would do well to have the I-49 shield painted on the right lanes and the U S 71 badge painted on the left.  From the skid marks it looks like someone came close to having a problem already and we're just one weekend into this.  Then again, there's only one center lane so my idea mightn't work at all.  :wow:

Those aren't skidmarks.  That's where they ground off the old shoulder lines.  They would do well to have the shields painted on the lanes, though, like they do on I-49 southbound in Fayetteville after you crest the hill past Clear Creek where AR-112 and the Fulbright Expressway exit off.  Still wondering when they're going to replace the old I-540 era milemarkers/exit numbers south of Bella Vista.  Never got a good answer from ARDOT when I emailed them.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3251 on: October 04, 2021, 02:49:03 AM »




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When can we expect Google Maps to street view this new bypass?

Seems to me this stretch of interstate would do well to have the I-49 shield painted on the right lanes and the U S 71 badge painted on the left.  From the skid marks it looks like someone came close to having a problem already and we're just one weekend into this.  Then again, there's only one center lane so my idea mightn't work at all.  :wow:

Those aren't skidmarks.  That's where they ground off the old shoulder lines.  They would do well to have the shields painted on the lanes, though, like they do on I-49 southbound in Fayetteville after you crest the hill past Clear Creek where AR-112 and the Fulbright Expressway exit off.  Still wondering when they're going to replace the old I-540 era milemarkers/exit numbers south of Bella Vista.  Never got a good answer from ARDOT when I emailed them.
When they replaced the exit signs you’d think they would’ve went ahead and changed them. There is room for 3 digit exit numbers on the signs, however. Maybe they are waiting on the new Arkansas river bridge. Which will hopefully be built in my lifetime.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3252 on: October 04, 2021, 07:29:21 AM »

Google maps has the new stretch of I-49 up.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4853735,-94.3463068,23726m/data=!3m1!1e3

But it's labeled 549, even in Missouri...

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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3253 on: October 04, 2021, 11:02:43 AM »

Google maps has the new stretch of I-49 up.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4853735,-94.3463068,23726m/data=!3m1!1e3

But it's labeled 549, even in Missouri...


Also, the SPUI at the southern end isn't even complete, with the movements to and from the BVB missing. And there never was a reason for MO 549 to exist, as before the bypass existed, I-49 was simply an upgraded US 71 freeway.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3254 on: October 04, 2021, 02:14:48 PM »

Google maps has the new stretch of I-49 up.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4853735,-94.3463068,23726m/data=!3m1!1e3

But it's labeled 549, even in Missouri...


Also, the SPUI at the southern end isn't even complete, with the movements to and from the BVB missing. And there never was a reason for MO 549 to exist, as before the bypass existed, I-49 was simply an upgraded US 71 freeway.

As of this post,  the SPUI is correct, except for the missing southbound ramp (which isn't open yet), still marked as 549.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3255 on: October 04, 2021, 02:19:14 PM »

i need to find another construction project to watch since this is 99.99% complete.  Something more interesting than a Zoom meeting
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3256 on: October 04, 2021, 03:06:41 PM »

The linework is indeed showing up in Google Maps but the route is not entirely routable at the moment. Try doing a route from Goodman, MO, to Springdale, AR, and it still takes the old 71 alignment. Can't even drag the routing to make it go on the new segment spanning the state line.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3257 on: October 04, 2021, 09:26:13 PM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3258 on: October 04, 2021, 09:42:46 PM »

Now that the Bella Vista Bypass is completed, how long until they renumber the old Interstate 540-mileage exits into Interstate 49-mileage exits? I think those exits should have been renumbered in 2014, when the Interstate 540-to-Interstate 49 conversion occurred.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3259 on: October 04, 2021, 09:55:52 PM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
Howso?

They have 2 separate carriageways and all the interchanges…Looks very “Freeway” to me on Google Maps
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3260 on: October 04, 2021, 10:35:34 PM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
Howso?

They have 2 separate carriageways and all the interchanges…Looks very “Freeway” to me on Google Maps
Freeway is a separate layer, it looks different, is bolder, etc.

The bypass is not marked as such.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3261 on: October 04, 2021, 10:36:46 PM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
Howso?

They have 2 separate carriageways and all the interchanges…Looks very “Freeway” to me on Google Maps

Depends on the zoom level you're looking at. It's missing altogether at the zoom level that has the mileage scale for 20 miles, and looks like a 2 lane road at most others until you zoom right into it.  I know there's a fair chunk of the new mileage that's on relatively narrow ROW with a concrete divider, but not a 2-lane's worth.  The navigation of Google Maps is still dumping everyone off on US-71.  Thankfully, most people aren't buying everything that the Goog is selling and staying on the new route.  I had a job in Bella Vista today, and it was confused as soon as I got onto the overpass.  Took a few minutes after getting to the job site to submit a correction in Google Maps about a missing road.  Had to trace pretty much all of the new mileage with my phone and label it I-49, requesting they also correct the road designation, put the route on the navigation portion, and correct the routing.  We'll see how long it takes for them to get it all together.  You'd think there must be several other areas of the U.S. that have had over a dozen miles of new Interstate Highway open recently or something with their lag time.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3262 on: October 04, 2021, 10:40:17 PM »

i need to find another construction project to watch since this is 99.99% complete.  Something more interesting than a Zoom meeting

Next up, AR-612's western leg in NWA.  They are still actively working in the Jacksonville, AR area on projects for Future I-57 as well.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3263 on: October 05, 2021, 12:14:42 AM »

i need to find another construction project to watch since this is 99.99% complete.  Something more interesting than a Zoom meeting

Next up, AR-612's western leg in NWA.  They are still actively working in the Jacksonville, AR area on projects for Future I-57 as well.
Only project we got is Wedington interchange and the forever ROW acquisition for the airport connector


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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3264 on: October 05, 2021, 07:35:13 AM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
Howso?

They have 2 separate carriageways and all the interchanges…Looks very “Freeway” to me on Google Maps

Depends on the zoom level you're looking at. It's missing altogether at the zoom level that has the mileage scale for 20 miles, and looks like a 2 lane road at most others until you zoom right into it.  I know there's a fair chunk of the new mileage that's on relatively narrow ROW with a concrete divider, but not a 2-lane's worth.  The navigation of Google Maps is still dumping everyone off on US-71.  Thankfully, most people aren't buying everything that the Goog is selling and staying on the new route.  I had a job in Bella Vista today, and it was confused as soon as I got onto the overpass.  Took a few minutes after getting to the job site to submit a correction in Google Maps about a missing road.  Had to trace pretty much all of the new mileage with my phone and label it I-49, requesting they also correct the road designation, put the route on the navigation portion, and correct the routing.  We'll see how long it takes for them to get it all together.  You'd think there must be several other areas of the U.S. that have had over a dozen miles of new Interstate Highway open recently or something with their lag time.
The routing not properly working is normal with new roadways for the first week or so.

Regardless of how the road is designated, soon enough the routing should be accurate.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3265 on: October 05, 2021, 09:09:12 AM »

Does anyone know about the IH 49/Wedington interchange improvements? Tease the folks? Will it be a SPUI? Or a DDI or just minor additions that just serve as a bandaid on a bullet wound? That interchange was crazy congested when I lived there 20 years ago, ditto for US 62 and 412 at IH49, total cluster####s
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3266 on: October 05, 2021, 10:39:23 AM »

Now that the Bella Vista Bypass is completed, how long until they renumber the old Interstate 540-mileage exits into Interstate 49-mileage exits? I think those exits should have been renumbered in 2014, when the Interstate 540-to-Interstate 49 conversion occurred.
My guess is that those changes won't take place until the entire interstate is completed.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3267 on: October 05, 2021, 01:52:20 PM »

Does anyone know about the IH 49/Wedington interchange improvements? Tease the folks? Will it be a SPUI? Or a DDI or just minor additions that just serve as a bandaid on a bullet wound? That interchange was crazy congested when I lived there 20 years ago, ditto for US 62 and 412 at IH49, total cluster####s

Not reconfiguring, other than eliminating the left turn onto northbound I-49 from the west on AR-16.  They will be putting a quarter clover right turn under the overpass instead and widening Wedington up to and including the overpass to 3 lanes each direction out to Rupple Rd.  Cross Church and the fitness business will be butting up against the northbound onramp.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3268 on: October 05, 2021, 01:56:38 PM »

i need to find another construction project to watch since this is 99.99% complete.  Something more interesting than a Zoom meeting

Next up, AR-612's western leg in NWA.  They are still actively working in the Jacksonville, AR area on projects for Future I-57 as well.
Only project we got is Wedington interchange and the forever ROW acquisition for the airport connector


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They are also getting started on AR-112 widening now with surveying and engineering, but that project is more for a local audience.  Those from out of the area will be more interested in I-49 in the Ft. Smith to Texarkana area, US-412 from Lowell to I-35, and I-57 and I-69.  Most of those other than I-57 are a little further down the road at this point with funding constraints.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3269 on: October 05, 2021, 09:24:06 PM »

112 should have been widened 20 years ago
OT, I Was hoping that there would be more development south and east of Fayetteville. There should be more hotels and Truck stops in the Greenland area! Has that area grown any? US 71 south of Fayetteville near the airport is awful IMO but should be a prime area for development? Has there been any expansion out there?
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3270 on: October 06, 2021, 05:02:56 PM »

FYI, Apple Maps does not have the new section of I-49 marked.  It only has the old section of AR 549.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3271 on: October 07, 2021, 12:15:11 AM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
Howso?

They have 2 separate carriageways and all the interchanges…Looks very “Freeway” to me on Google Maps

Depends on the zoom level you're looking at. It's missing altogether at the zoom level that has the mileage scale for 20 miles, and looks like a 2 lane road at most others until you zoom right into it.  I know there's a fair chunk of the new mileage that's on relatively narrow ROW with a concrete divider, but not a 2-lane's worth.  The navigation of Google Maps is still dumping everyone off on US-71.  Thankfully, most people aren't buying everything that the Goog is selling and staying on the new route.  I had a job in Bella Vista today, and it was confused as soon as I got onto the overpass.  Took a few minutes after getting to the job site to submit a correction in Google Maps about a missing road.  Had to trace pretty much all of the new mileage with my phone and label it I-49, requesting they also correct the road designation, put the route on the navigation portion, and correct the routing.  We'll see how long it takes for them to get it all together.  You'd think there must be several other areas of the U.S. that have had over a dozen miles of new Interstate Highway open recently or something with their lag time.
The routing not properly working is normal with new roadways for the first week or so.

Regardless of how the road is designated, soon enough the routing should be accurate.

Looks like they at least have the route and designation fixed.  Don't know about the navigation part yet.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4930877,-94.3474906,11z
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3272 on: October 07, 2021, 10:21:01 AM »

Looks like Google doesn't recognize it as a freeway either.  It seems to be drawn as an arterial.
Howso?

They have 2 separate carriageways and all the interchanges…Looks very “Freeway” to me on Google Maps

Depends on the zoom level you're looking at. It's missing altogether at the zoom level that has the mileage scale for 20 miles, and looks like a 2 lane road at most others until you zoom right into it.  I know there's a fair chunk of the new mileage that's on relatively narrow ROW with a concrete divider, but not a 2-lane's worth.  The navigation of Google Maps is still dumping everyone off on US-71.  Thankfully, most people aren't buying everything that the Goog is selling and staying on the new route.  I had a job in Bella Vista today, and it was confused as soon as I got onto the overpass.  Took a few minutes after getting to the job site to submit a correction in Google Maps about a missing road.  Had to trace pretty much all of the new mileage with my phone and label it I-49, requesting they also correct the road designation, put the route on the navigation portion, and correct the routing.  We'll see how long it takes for them to get it all together.  You'd think there must be several other areas of the U.S. that have had over a dozen miles of new Interstate Highway open recently or something with their lag time.
The routing not properly working is normal with new roadways for the first week or so.

Regardless of how the road is designated, soon enough the routing should be accurate.

Looks like they at least have the route and designation fixed.  Don't know about the navigation part yet.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4930877,-94.3474906,11z

Navigation is working now, just routed KC to Ft. Smith and it was straight down I-49.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3273 on: October 07, 2021, 10:51:38 AM »

On navigation the on ramps still say AR 549 (even at the MO 90 exit) but the highway itself says I-49


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