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Title: Longmeadow Parkway corridor
Post by: I-39 on July 22, 2015, 05:41:01 PM
http://www.kcchronicle.com/2015/07/20/longmeadow-parkway-construction-could-begin-in-march/a6h8xcx/ (http://www.kcchronicle.com/2015/07/20/longmeadow-parkway-construction-could-begin-in-march/a6h8xcx/)

Edit (07/23/2020): changed thread name to reflect general discussion about corridor
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 22, 2015, 06:09:10 PM
No mention of tolls?
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 22, 2015, 06:09:10 PM
No mention of tolls?

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 22, 2015, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 22, 2015, 06:09:10 PM
No mention of tolls?

It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Supposedly $1.50

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150427/news/150428852/

These NIMBY'ers are really getting on my nerves
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)

Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Joe The Dragon on July 23, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
they can EOE tolling or something like 407 ERT
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on July 23, 2015, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

Since when did I-55 west/south of I-294, I-57, IL 394, and the sections of I-80 that are separate from I-294 get tolled?
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:31:39 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 23, 2015, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

Since when did I-55 west/south of I-294, I-57, IL 394, and the sections of I-80 that are separate from I-294 get tolled?

55 southwest of 80 and 57 south of 80 are 4 lane highways. The ones I mentioned are carry much more traffic.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ET21 on July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

One of the reasons is Illinois has a sales tax on gas, other states don't. Second, the tollway isn't filled with patronage hags by Madigan or Quinn. Lastly, with more electric cars, hybrids, better fuel efficient cars, tolls are a fair way of collecting revenue to put towards highways. Pay per use. If you don't want to pay, there are other "free" alternatives paid for by you and me. Also, the gas tax in Illinois goes towards numerous stupid things: bike paths, public transportation, balancing a budget, etc. etc.

Seems to me, the only decent highways in this region are the toll roads. IDOT has the worst roads around. Be glad we're not like other states and use tolls to balance budgets.

What we really need is remove that silly sentence in the state constitution that says "pensions can't be diminished blah blah blah" or have a federal court do it for us as federal bankruptcy laws trump state constitutional laws.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: tribar on July 24, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

Finally someone who gets it!  Illinois should be working to decrease the amount of tolled miles of roadway in Illinois, not increase it.  Wisconsin does not have ONE toll and yet has enough money to do far more projects than IDOT does. 
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: tribar on July 24, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

One of the reasons is Illinois has a sales tax on gas, other states don't. Second, the tollway isn't filled with patronage hags by Madigan or Quinn. Lastly, with more electric cars, hybrids, better fuel efficient cars, tolls are a fair way of collecting revenue to put towards highways. Pay per use. If you don't want to pay, there are other "free" alternatives paid for by you and me. Also, the gas tax in Illinois goes towards numerous stupid things: bike paths, public transportation, balancing a budget, etc. etc.

Seems to me, the only decent highways in this region are the toll roads. IDOT has the worst roads around. Be glad we're not like other states and use tolls to balance budgets.

What we really need is remove that silly sentence in the state constitution that says "pensions can't be diminished blah blah blah" or have a federal court do it for us as federal bankruptcy laws trump state constitutional laws.

How are public transportation and bike paths a stupid way to spend money?
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 05:12:44 PM
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How are public transportation and bike paths a stupid way to spend money?

Good idea, but gas tax shouldn't go towards it, hence stupid.

Gas tax should go towards roads, not beautification projects, bike paths, public transportation, etc. ROADS
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 24, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 23, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 23, 2015, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 22, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 22, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 22, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
It's a local road, really doubt it would be tolled

Last I heard it will be tolled at the Fox River Bridge, as otherwise Kane County would not have the funds to build it.  Supposedly it will be a time of day toll - $1.50 during the peak hours, $1 otherwise.

The reason there is no mention of tolls is because the article is referencing the Huntley Road to west of Randall Road section, shown in these plans. (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Longmeadow%20Parkway/Longmeadow%20Parkway%20Bridge%20Corridor%20-%20Link%20to%20Prefinal%20Contract%20Plans%20-%20May%202015.pdf)
Ipass rate? pay online rate?

Ipass only.

There was a toll bridge in Rockford a few years ago. Unlike Illinois tollway, they kept their promise and knocked down the toll booths as soon as the bonds were paid off.

http://www.rrstar.com/article/20120907/NEWS/309079924

Only a few politicians "promised" making the tollways free.  It was never in any law passed nor in any literature after they were built.  IMHO, it is wiser that they were not pushed onto IDOT.  IDOT can barely take care of what they have.

I wouldn't have a problem with the concept of "ITHSA" if they had made some of the freeways that run into chicago (290, 90/94, 55) tolls. Once again, we're giving Chicago a free ride at the expense of the suburbs.

55 would be the only viable option to do a toll (as it has been suggested to build the 4th lane). Good luck building a toll booth anywhere along The Kennedy or the Dan Ryan in between the Edens and the Skyway

I don't see why 290 can't be tolled since IDOT plans on rebuilding it who knows when.  Just hand it over to ITHSA and toll it.

It'll improve traffic flow since it'll keep the idiot Oak Park drivers off the highway who just jump on and then jump off the next exit.

While I wouldn't mind that, let's not forget the roadway space issue unless you wanna make 290 all I-PASS which would probably be the easiest way to go.

No more expansion of the tollway system! Illinois is getting WAY too reliant on tolls for building new highways. Pretty soon, every major Interstate in Chicago will be tolled, which is unacceptable considering the highways were paid with taxpayer money. Why is it that Illinois has to toll everything yet surrounding states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Iowa can pay for new highways with no tolls? Illinois in theory should have a larger tax base.

I don't mind leaving tolls on the existing tollways, but I don't want the 303 mile (counting the new EOWA roads) tollway system to expand any further, and that includes tolling existing highways (the only exception I would make is building the IL-53 extension as a toll road, but don't toll the existing IL-53).

What needs to happen is serious reforms in the practices of IDOT (bring in new leadership that will bring down the costs of contracts, incorporate more innovative planning, reform finances, etc) and raising the gas tax to fund an IDOT capital program. At this point, I wouldn't mind a gas tax increase to keep the expansion of the tollway system in check.

Get going IDOT!

One of the reasons is Illinois has a sales tax on gas, other states don't. Second, the tollway isn't filled with patronage hags by Madigan or Quinn. Lastly, with more electric cars, hybrids, better fuel efficient cars, tolls are a fair way of collecting revenue to put towards highways. Pay per use. If you don't want to pay, there are other "free" alternatives paid for by you and me. Also, the gas tax in Illinois goes towards numerous stupid things: bike paths, public transportation, balancing a budget, etc. etc.

Seems to me, the only decent highways in this region are the toll roads. IDOT has the worst roads around. Be glad we're not like other states and use tolls to balance budgets.

What we really need is remove that silly sentence in the state constitution that says "pensions can't be diminished blah blah blah" or have a federal court do it for us as federal bankruptcy laws trump state constitutional laws.

The Illinois Constitution needs to be COMPLETELY repealed and replaced with a brand new one that removes all the protections for pensions, imposes term limits for Governor (two terms for life, modeled after the US presidential term limit amendment), term limits for the state legislature, redistricting reform (independent redistricting commission), etc.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs). Why even have a state transportation department if they can't rebuild/expand Interstates and other highways? Go look at IDOT's website and see how many projects are stuck in Phase I because there is no money to advance them. By contrast, go to WisDOT's website and see how many projects that are under construction or moving forward in the study phase because of good funding. It is night and day. WisDOT is not perfect, but they are lightyears ahead of IDOT. They have a smaller population and yet, they can move forward with rebuilding/widening I-39/90 and I-94 between the state line and Madison and Milwaukee respectively (both $1 billion+ projects), plus build new four lane highways along WIS 26, 29, US 151, etc. Meanwhile, IDOT cannot do anything to rebuild/widen I-55 between downtown Chicago and Joliet or build the EOWA or IL-53 extension because it's too expensive.

IDOT needs new leadership that is competent and innovative, and we need to create a state transportation fund where gas tax money goes to that can only be used for transportation purposes (with severe punishments for any attempts to raid the fund), then increase the gas tax to fund a major capital program. And they need to keep their website updated for pete's sake! There are many projects on there that have been completed and yet they are still listed as under construction. Plus, there is a ton of outdated data.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 05:12:44 PM
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How are public transportation and bike paths a stupid way to spend money?

Good idea, but gas tax shouldn't go towards it, hence stupid.

Gas tax should go towards roads, not beautification projects, bike paths, public transportation, etc. ROADS

Local municipalities (county level and below) should pay for bike paths if they want them.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 05:56:17 PM

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The Illinois Constitution needs to be COMPLETELY repealed and replaced with a brand new one that removes all the protections for pensions, imposes term limits for Governor (two terms for life, modeled after the US presidential term limit amendment), term limits for the state legislature, redistricting reform (independent redistricting commission), etc.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs). Why even have a state transportation department if they can't rebuild/expand Interstates and other highways? Go look at IDOT's website and see how many projects are stuck in Phase I because there is no money to advance them. By contrast, go to WisDOT's website and see how many projects that are under construction or moving forward in the study phase because of good funding. It is night and day. WisDOT is not perfect, but they are lightyears ahead of IDOT. They have a smaller population and yet, they can move forward with rebuilding/widening I-39/90 and I-94 between the state line and Madison and Milwaukee respectively (both $1 billion+ projects), plus build new four lane highways along WIS 26, 29, US 151, etc. Meanwhile, IDOT cannot do anything to rebuild/widen I-55 between downtown Chicago and Joliet or build the EOWA or IL-53 extension because it's too expensive.

IDOT needs new leadership that is competent and innovative, and we need to create a state transportation fund where gas tax money goes to that can only be used for transportation purposes (with severe punishments for any attempts to raid the fund), then increase the gas tax to fund a major capital program. And they need to keep their website updated for pete's sake! There are many projects on there that have been completed and yet they are still listed as under construction. Plus, there is a ton of outdated data.

To be fair, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan etc. don't really have a solid public transportation system like Illinois does. IDOT pays for things like rail cars for Metra, helps Union Pacific third rail from West Chicago to Geneva, etc. etc. Not all of IDOT's money goes back towards roads like they do in other states. IDOT also funds a terrible, terrible system called Amtrak as well.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

My bad. They are the only exception. If you want to get to downtown without paying tolls, you can, but you still only have I-355 and I-294 for suburb to suburb commutes.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: tribar on July 24, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

Ok, that can stop now.  The fact is while there are exceptions, more than half of interstate miles in the Chicago suburbs are tolled. 
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

You're right, let's start building toll booths on those highways too.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: dietermoreno on July 24, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
So what happens if you drive the bridge without an IPass?  Will you be able to pay online, or will it automatically become a violation with a violation mailed to you?  Same question for the EOWA.  I've heard ISTHA is working on a way of collecting tolls with smart phones, but I doubt that will ever happen due to privacy concerns from GPS tracking every vehicle with the app turned on.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ET21 on July 25, 2015, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

I-290 is the free gateway to the northwest suburbs and free ;)

My bad. They are the only exception. If you want to get to downtown without paying tolls, you can, but you still only have I-355 and I-294 for suburb to suburb commutes.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Brandon on July 25, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

You're right, let's start building toll booths on those highways too.

Actually, there are people here who wish I-80 and I-55 were tollways.  Then we'd actually have really good roads that were wide enough to accommodate the traffic flow.  We see how good the interstates are to Elgin, Waukegan, and Aurora, and wish we had their interstates.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on July 25, 2015, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 25, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

You're right, let's start building toll booths on those highways too.

Actually, there are people here who wish I-80 and I-55 were tollways.  Then we'd actually have really good roads that were wide enough to accommodate the traffic flow.  We see how good the interstates are to Elgin, Waukegan, and Aurora, and wish we had their interstates.

I-80 was just converted to 6 lanes near I-355 last year, I-55 was converted to 6 lanes from Weber rd to I-80 back in 2008. 90/94 on the south side was converted to the mega highway it is today 10 years ago.

What investments has IDOT made to 290, 190 or 90/94 on the north side in the last decade?

Oh, we pay the price for those roads. However the older highways like 90, 88, and 294 are very reasonable when it comes to toll.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Stratuscaster on July 26, 2015, 06:53:19 PM
Wasn't the removal relocation of the I-290 "Hillside Strangler" done within the last decade?

Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: tribar on July 26, 2015, 06:58:04 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on July 26, 2015, 06:53:19 PM
Wasn't the removal relocation of the I-290 "Hillside Strangler" done within the last decade?

I think it was closer to 15 years ago. 
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ET21 on July 27, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 25, 2015, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 25, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

You're right, let's start building toll booths on those highways too.

Actually, there are people here who wish I-80 and I-55 were tollways.  Then we'd actually have really good roads that were wide enough to accommodate the traffic flow.  We see how good the interstates are to Elgin, Waukegan, and Aurora, and wish we had their interstates.

I-80 was just converted to 6 lanes near I-355 last year, I-55 was converted to 6 lanes from Weber rd to I-80 back in 2008. 90/94 on the south side was converted to the mega highway it is today 10 years ago.

What investments has IDOT made to 290, 190 or 90/94 on the north side in the last decade?

Oh, we pay the price for those roads. However the older highways like 90, 88, and 294 are very reasonable when it comes to toll.

290 north of the I-355 merge was enhanced to 10 lanes each direction about 8-9 years ago. So far the only Kennedy projects have been the Ohio feeder redo, the Jane Byrne (290 and 90/94), and Cumberland was redone just last year.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ChiMilNet on July 28, 2015, 10:25:38 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 27, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 25, 2015, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 25, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on July 24, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 24, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 24, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I understand the toll roads are the best around, because ISTHA is an innovative thinking agency that generates their own revenue. But they should not have control of every major commuter route in Chicagoland (basically they already do in the suburbs).

Thanks for trowing Joliet and the south suburbs under the bus.  What the hell are I-55, the Ryan, I-57, and Calumet Expressway?  Chopped liver?

You're right, let's start building toll booths on those highways too.

Actually, there are people here who wish I-80 and I-55 were tollways.  Then we'd actually have really good roads that were wide enough to accommodate the traffic flow.  We see how good the interstates are to Elgin, Waukegan, and Aurora, and wish we had their interstates.

I-80 was just converted to 6 lanes near I-355 last year, I-55 was converted to 6 lanes from Weber rd to I-80 back in 2008. 90/94 on the south side was converted to the mega highway it is today 10 years ago.

What investments has IDOT made to 290, 190 or 90/94 on the north side in the last decade?

Oh, we pay the price for those roads. However the older highways like 90, 88, and 294 are very reasonable when it comes to toll.

290 north of the I-355 merge was enhanced to 10 lanes each direction about 8-9 years ago. So far the only Kennedy projects have been the Ohio feeder redo, the Jane Byrne (290 and 90/94), and Cumberland was redone just last year.

I-290 immediately North of the I-355 merge has been 10 lanes for over 20 years. In fact, I think this configuration has existed since I-355 opened. However, the portion North of IL-390 to just North of IL-72 was rebuilt about 10 years ago, and it was enhanced to have 8 through lanes and 2 auxiliary lanes. The biggest improvement was probably the stretch right near Woodfield where the Northbound merge from four to 3 lanes before the split into local/express was eliminated (though the area overall is still a bottleneck, mostly due to the I-90 interchange, it used to be much worse). However, IDOT has done very little in the North/NW Suburbs since then.

Getting back on topic. I get the feeling this is going to cause a major traffic surge on Algonquin Road. Surely IDOT will need to finally widen the stretch between IL-68 and IL-25.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on January 13, 2016, 09:58:33 PM
Kane County has posted preliminary plans for supposedly the next section of Longmeadow that will be let, west of Randall to west of IL 31:  Link (79 MB pdf). (https://kdotqbs.countyofkane.org/uploads/attachments/82/100915_PrefinalIDOT_A2B1_Plans_11x17.pdf)

Kane County also appears to have already let a tree removal contract for Longmeadow between Huntley Road and Randall Road:  Bid tab for the project. (http://www.countyofkane.org/BidsAndProposals/As%20Read%20Bid%20Tab%2012-1-15%20LMP%20A-1%20Tree%20Removal.pdf)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on January 19, 2016, 08:38:33 PM
Kane County has let the first construction contract for Longmeadow, which will include redoing the Huntley Road/Boyer Road intersection, but the new construction under this contract will stop short of Randall Road.  Bid tab for Section A1 of Longmeadow Parkway. (http://www.countyofkane.org/BidsAndProposals/As%20Read%20Bid%20Tab%201-12-16%20LMP%20A-1.pdf)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: johndoe780 on March 06, 2016, 02:44:52 PM
http://kanecountyconnects.com/2016/02/county-municipal-officials-break-ground-on-longmeadow-parkway-project/

Construction broke ground.

75 cents for the toll to cross the fox river isn't bad. Not sure if the recent Federal transportation bill FAST act had any funding for longmeadow.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: quickshade on March 06, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Interesting to note that if they get any further funding it would be used to pay back for the bridge. Considering one of the secondary issues in the presidential candidates running is infrastructure rebuilding I could see this getting additional funding down the road. Although $.75 is not bad and nothing to complain about.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on March 06, 2016, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 06, 2016, 02:44:52 PM
75 cents for the toll to cross the fox river isn't bad. Not sure if the recent Federal transportation bill FAST act had any funding for longmeadow.

At least they are keeping fairly close to the cost to cross the Fox River on I-90 (75 cents if one gets on/off at Randall, 65 cents if one gets on/off at IL 31).
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on July 29, 2016, 11:09:53 PM
Kane County is having a public meeting regarding the reevaluation of the EIS for Longmeadow Parkway, and has posted the reevaluation documents: http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx (http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: ChiMilNet on July 31, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 29, 2016, 11:09:53 PM
Kane County is having a public meeting regarding the reevaluation of the EIS for Longmeadow Parkway, and has posted the reevaluation documents: http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx (http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx)

It's amazing we get anything built these days! They do an EIS, and now they have to RE-EVALUATE it???? No wonder our infrastructure can't keep up! This is a perfectly sensible route and would improve mobility in the area greatly. Here's the thing, fumes are not good for the environment... why can't people understand this as well???
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Rothman on August 31, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 31, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 29, 2016, 11:09:53 PM
Kane County is having a public meeting regarding the reevaluation of the EIS for Longmeadow Parkway, and has posted the reevaluation documents: http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx (http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx)

It's amazing we get anything built these days! They do an EIS, and now they have to RE-EVALUATE it???? No wonder our infrastructure can't keep up! This is a perfectly sensible route and would improve mobility in the area greatly. Here's the thing, fumes are not good for the environment... why can't people understand this as well???

You can't do an EIS years ago and expect it to pass federal muster today.  I forget what the expiration date is on them, but you do have to update them when necessary.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on December 03, 2016, 10:19:50 PM
The Longmeadow/Huntley Road/Boyer Road intersection appears to be mostly complete.  Longmeadow east of this intersection appears ready to open - though I believe they are waiting for the Randall Road intersection to be built before they will do so.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on December 11, 2016, 12:10:01 PM
The next section of Longmeadow Parkway, A2-B1/west of Randall to about 2/3rd's of the way to IL 31 is going to be on IDOT's January 2017 Letting:  See Page 61 of 101 (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/01.20.2017/Vol19n50.pdf).  Plans will be posted here. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/012017/)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Anthony_JK on December 11, 2016, 12:33:19 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 31, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 31, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 29, 2016, 11:09:53 PM
Kane County is having a public meeting regarding the reevaluation of the EIS for Longmeadow Parkway, and has posted the reevaluation documents: http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx (http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/foxBridges/longmeadowPkwy.aspx)

It's amazing we get anything built these days! They do an EIS, and now they have to RE-EVALUATE it???? No wonder our infrastructure can't keep up! This is a perfectly sensible route and would improve mobility in the area greatly. Here's the thing, fumes are not good for the environment... why can't people understand this as well???

You can't do an EIS years ago and expect it to pass federal muster today.  I forget what the expiration date is on them, but you do have to update them when necessary.

Usually, a Re-Evaluation of an completed EIS/ROD or an EA/FONSI is mandated if more than 3 years passes from the date of signature of a completed ROD or FONSI and no construction or final design is taken. It has to be done to take into considerations changes in the natural and physical environment since the original documentation was completed, and if any additional or expanded studies (through a Supplemental EIS or a totally new from scratch EIS) are deemed necessary.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on September 13, 2018, 10:14:39 PM
Dusting off this thread . . .

Kane County has posted bid documents for the Fox River Bridge portion of Longmeadow Parkway, with bids to be opened October 2.  Link to posting. (http://countyofkane.org/Pages/countyBids.aspx#InplviewHasha5ecb601-7ffb-43bd-afc3-8755f9c161f0=SortField%3DClosing_x0020_Date-SortDir%3DDesc)  Link to plans. (http://countyofkane.org/BidsAndProposals/130021520BR%20Longmeadow%20Parkway%20over%20the%20Fox%20River%20Combined%20S.P.s%20and%20Plans.pdf)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on October 12, 2018, 11:54:56 PM
Google Earth has updated imagery showing progress on Sections B2 (includes IL 31) and D (the IL 62 intersection) of Longmeadow.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on February 09, 2020, 12:17:09 PM
Google Earth now has a section of updated imagery showing progress on Longmeadow, including the Fox River Bridge and a mostly complete Section D (IL 25 to IL 62)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: edwaleni on February 09, 2020, 06:01:41 PM
Bolz & Sandbloom, showing the Fox River bridge under construction.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49512646753_b58850462c_z.jpg)

The east terminus at Algonquin Road.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49512647178_6f9a03a788_z.jpg)

The prep work for the IL-25 overpass.

Looking west

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49512646878_e1879b0a52_z.jpg)

Looking east.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49513163746_1015c865d3_z.jpg)

Ongoing work at IL-31

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49512711308_3e5361235c_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway construction to begin next year
Post by: Revive 755 on July 21, 2020, 10:11:25 PM
https://kanecountyconnects.com/2020/07/longmeadow-parkway-white-chapel-lane-to-il-route-31-open-to-traffic/ (https://kanecountyconnects.com/2020/07/longmeadow-parkway-white-chapel-lane-to-il-route-31-open-to-traffic/)
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway corridor
Post by: Revive 755 on December 13, 2020, 12:48:10 PM
The portion of Longmeadow between IL 25 and the Bolz Road Connector is open (even shows up on Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/7HtrPVKY8W4DsbYB6), but each direction only has one of the future two lanes open.  Google Maps isn't quite correct on the transition from Longmeadow to the Bolz Road Connector - it's a right angle turn currently controlled by an all-way stop.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway corridor
Post by: Revive 755 on December 30, 2021, 11:31:57 PM
The section of Longmeadow Parkway between IL 25 and IL 62 has fully opened.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway corridor
Post by: edwaleni on January 01, 2022, 01:43:26 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 13, 2020, 12:48:10 PM
The portion of Longmeadow between IL 25 and the Bolz Road Connector is open (even shows up on Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/7HtrPVKY8W4DsbYB6), but each direction only has one of the future two lanes open.  Google Maps isn't quite correct on the transition from Longmeadow to the Bolz Road Connector - it's a right angle turn currently controlled by an all-way stop.

Google Maps used to have a view of the pylons going up over the Fox River from Old Williams Road, but they disappeared earlier this year and fell back to an older pre-construction view of just trees.
Title: Re: Longmeadow Parkway corridor
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on January 24, 2024, 03:47:01 PM
https://www.dailyherald.com/20240123/transportation/longmeadow-parkway-bridge-will-be-toll-free-when-its-expected-to-open-this-fall-after-much-controve/

The Longmeadow Parkway Bridge will be toll-free when it opens sometime this fall.