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Author Topic: Contradictory signs  (Read 34018 times)

mrsman

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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #150 on: November 10, 2021, 01:42:46 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/zJWHjTv7HEuwhz7b6

Which way is NJ Route 3 east here?

The sign on the right should probably have "LOCAL EXITS" in yellow to distinguish between the two Route 3's.  Both ramps go to Route 3, but the left ramp joins route 3 from the left, making it difficult to merge to an exit, if someone needs to exit within the next 2 miles.
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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #151 on: November 11, 2021, 12:07:10 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/XRfq9i57FLKQujwZ8

Would the real Exit 1D please stand up?

Gawd, the layout of that Alameda sign is atrocious. Even within the constraints of Caltrans signing practices, they could have done better...
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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #152 on: December 01, 2021, 05:40:12 PM »

Noticed this on the way to classes today. So do I follow the bike signal or the pedestrian signal?


The 8-8-8 bike signals that they added this year are nice signals, but if one is actually riding a bike on the bike path, one waits forever at each intersection for the exclusive WALK phase unless one manages to hit them just right.  Almost better to ride in the street and follow the regular signals.
At least they figured out eventually that having a vehicle (bike) follow the pedestrian signals was stupid.  Now they can take the signs down....
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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #153 on: December 04, 2021, 02:36:46 PM »

My wife just got a job in Oklahoma City, which she isn't very familiar with driving-wise (usually when we go up to the city I drive). Today, she went up there, which led to this exchange:
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She's southbound on Meridian Avenue at I-40. Technically contradictory, although you can kind of grok OKC's/ODOT's intent when you've been through a few interchanges set up this way. But still, there is no signage indicating that the "left turn" here is for the eastbound I-40 service road (and thus the eastbound I-40 ramp) after the bridge.

As is my tendency when I run across a squirrelly ODOT practice, I went to check how KDOT handles the same sort of situation, and it's much clearer (southbound 78th Street at I-70 in Kansas City):
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Can confirm. Walker Avenue southbound approaching I-240’s westbound service road has a one way sign…but the left turn lane is marked on the NORTH side of I-240. Unless I-240’s service roads are planned for two-way conversion (and I have seen zero to substantiate that being the case), following the lane marking would lead to a head on collision with westbound service road traffic.
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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #154 on: December 29, 2021, 04:19:05 PM »

Not technically a road sign, but on county property off a county route


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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #155 on: December 29, 2021, 04:44:06 PM »

Not contradictory at all—they'll watch you lose your items or watch people steal them...and not do anything about it. But they have it on tape, so they can relive the experience over and over!
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Re: Contradictory signs
« Reply #156 on: December 29, 2021, 06:40:11 PM »

More like the county's not responsible, but if the surveillance video can be used as evidence by the county against a private party then it will.
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