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Signs at state lines put up by one state that refer to things in the other state

Started by KCRoadFan, August 22, 2020, 09:25:36 PM

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hbelkins

Don't have a photo, but for years, the one-mile advance sign for the US 23 exit on westbound I-64, which was located in West Virginia, had route markers for both US 23 and KY 3. Once into the Bluegrass State, however, there was no mention of KY 3 on the exit signs.


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The Nature Boy

Quote from: 1 on August 23, 2020, 08:49:20 AM
I-93 in MA has a "road work next 20 miles" sign and a "I-293 X miles Y minutes" electronic sign intended for I-93 in New Hampshire. I don't have a photo, unfortunately.

I-495 in MA near I-93 tells you to use I-93 north for the airport in Manchester, NH. There's also one between exits 48 and 47 southbound telling you to use MA 213 to I-93.



This one is similar to the 107 photo I posted above. It's for NH 121, but the sign is in Massachusetts. (NH 121 does not become MA 121.)
[Side note: that's not a nonstandard signal; it's the camera.]

Massachusetts really hates using other state's highway shields, don't they?

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ftballfan

This old sign (gone now) was barely in Ohio and had mileages to Monroe, Detroit, and Flint, all in Michigan: https://goo.gl/maps/3wZzpSvTked3kzVB6

Flint is 108 miles using I-75 to I-275 to I-96 to US-23 back to I-75 vs. 118 miles staying on I-75 (it would have been ~100 miles if I-275 were built north of I-96/I-696)

GaryV

But for locations not that much south of that sign, it would be shorter to take I-475 to US-23 and go via Ann Arbor.  So the Flint distance on that sign was essentially unneeded for most traffic.


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JCinSummerfield

On M-52 as you leave Adrian, MI heading south is a mileage sign, with US-20 as one of the destinations.

bulldog1979

Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 28, 2020, 01:10:38 PM
On M-52 as you leave Adrian, MI heading south is a mileage sign, with US-20 as one of the destinations.

On US 127 southbound approaching the M-36 intersection in Hudson, there's a sign with US 20 mentioned as the destination ahead. The state line is still just over 10 miles away, and US 20 is another two miles south of the state line at that point.

US 89

There's this sign on I-80 as it passes through the twin towns of West Wendover, NV and Wendover, UT. This is a UDOT sign, about a mile into the state, but exit 410 is fully in Nevada. Perhaps the most interesting part is that there's actually another Utah exit between here and 410.

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Flint1979

This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

Flint1979

Quote from: bulldog1979 on August 29, 2020, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 28, 2020, 01:10:38 PM
On M-52 as you leave Adrian, MI heading south is a mileage sign, with US-20 as one of the destinations.

On US 127 southbound approaching the M-36 intersection in Hudson, there's a sign with US 20 mentioned as the destination ahead. The state line is still just over 10 miles away, and US 20 is another two miles south of the state line at that point.
The one on M-52 includes the mileage but the one on US-127 doesn't. US-20 is 9 miles south of the state line along M-52/OH-109. M-49 has one for US-20 south of Camden as well.

I-55

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

IN-63 acts as de facto US-41 between Terre Haute and Carbondale, being four lane and more direct than 41, and since 41's control cities are Terre Haute and Evansville southbound it is appropriate.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

The roadway goes to Chicago even though the route number doesn't come close. If you exit onto IN 63 northbound and just continue onward, you will cross into Chicago on Indianapolis Blvd, though you will have been on IN 63, US 41, IN 152, US 12 and US 20 in doing so.
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I-55

Quote from: cabiness42 on September 05, 2020, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

The roadway goes to Chicago even though the route number doesn't come close. If you exit onto IN 63 northbound and just continue onward, you will cross into Chicago on Indianapolis Blvd, though you will have been on IN 63, US 41, IN 152, US 12 and US 20 in doing so.

It's similar I-57 having a control city of Memphis. Number changes but the transition between routes is natural.
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ilpt4u

Quote from: I-55 on September 05, 2020, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 05, 2020, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

The roadway goes to Chicago even though the route number doesn't come close. If you exit onto IN 63 northbound and just continue onward, you will cross into Chicago on Indianapolis Blvd, though you will have been on IN 63, US 41, IN 152, US 12 and US 20 in doing so.

It's similar I-57 having a control city of Memphis. Number changes but the transition between routes is natural.
Memphis-bound traffic on I-57 has to follow a loop ramp at the I-55 Cloverleaf in Sikeston, to continue on 55 SB

IN 63 NB traffic for Chicago can get to Chicago without turning/by continuing "straight"

Scott5114

I wonder if when the I-57 extension goes through, IDOT will change from "Memphis" to "Little Rock".
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Flint1979

Quote from: I-55 on September 05, 2020, 01:33:03 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

IN-63 acts as de facto US-41 between Terre Haute and Carbondale, being four lane and more direct than 41, and since 41's control cities are Terre Haute and Evansville southbound it is appropriate.
I've been on IN-63 quite a bit while county clinching it's a nice highway to ride on but if it said something like Carbondale instead it'd make more sense. Yeah I know you'd get to Chicago by simply following US-41 but it's so far south of Chicago and doesn't go anywhere near there. The gap in the route is the reason I said it should be Terre Haute instead and even then Terre Haute is a big enough city to warrant control city signage over Evansville north of Terre Haute.

Flint1979

IN-63 has both Terre Haute and Evansville at the northern terminus at US-41. Then US-41 has Attica which is basically near that interchange. The thing that I don't get is that Evansville replaces Terre Haute even north of Terre Haute, I know that Evansville is quite a bit bigger than Terre Haute but it's still a city of about 60,000 and a metro of about 175,000. However Evansville is the hub of Southern Indiana pretty much, although there is a gap in IN-63's route. I haven't yet understood INDOT's obsession over making the cities have control of the former highways through the city.

On the flip side in Terre Haute, IN-63 NB has Clinton and Chicago for control cities while US-41 has Rockville. Rockville is fine and I guess Chicago being on IN-63's sign is evidence that IN-63 is the major highway in that part of the state.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 06:10:07 PM
Quote from: I-55 on September 05, 2020, 01:33:03 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

IN-63 acts as de facto US-41 between Terre Haute and Carbondale, being four lane and more direct than 41, and since 41's control cities are Terre Haute and Evansville southbound it is appropriate.
I've been on IN-63 quite a bit while county clinching it's a nice highway to ride on but if it said something like Carbondale instead it'd make more sense. Yeah I know you'd get to Chicago by simply following US-41 but it's so far south of Chicago and doesn't go anywhere near there. The gap in the route is the reason I said it should be Terre Haute instead and even then Terre Haute is a big enough city to warrant control city signage over Evansville north of Terre Haute.

Carbondale wouldn't make any sense at all because it's not a destination. It's barely a place. Chicago makes sense exactly because there isn't any real destination until you get close to Chicago.
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Flint1979

Quote from: cabiness42 on September 05, 2020, 06:37:55 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 06:10:07 PM
Quote from: I-55 on September 05, 2020, 01:33:03 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 05, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
This is about 6 miles from the Indiana/Illinois state line on US-36. IN-63 has Chicago and Evansville (which yes it is in Indiana but Terre Haute should be the control city not Evansville) for the control cities. IN-63 doesn't even get you anywhere near Chicago as it ends over 100 miles south of Chicago at US-41.

As for the Evansville control city, IN-63 is a discontinuous highway and ends once again at US-41 in Terre Haute so that sign is truly misleading.

IN-63 acts as de facto US-41 between Terre Haute and Carbondale, being four lane and more direct than 41, and since 41's control cities are Terre Haute and Evansville southbound it is appropriate.
I've been on IN-63 quite a bit while county clinching it's a nice highway to ride on but if it said something like Carbondale instead it'd make more sense. Yeah I know you'd get to Chicago by simply following US-41 but it's so far south of Chicago and doesn't go anywhere near there. The gap in the route is the reason I said it should be Terre Haute instead and even then Terre Haute is a big enough city to warrant control city signage over Evansville north of Terre Haute.

Carbondale wouldn't make any sense at all because it's not a destination. It's barely a place. Chicago makes sense exactly because there isn't any real destination until you get close to Chicago.
Well Hammond would probably be the only other Indiana city to go with and that's right next to Chicago so if Hammond would be it you mine as well make it Chicago.

ErmineNotyours

Almost last sign in Washington, Southbound I-82.  This sign is made up of many small horizontal panels, typical of Oregon DOT.  It's possible Washington actually put it up.

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