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VA 9xxxx routes explained
« on: June 20, 2022, 04:30:47 PM »

While perusing Virginia's arcgis map viewer, I found a bunch more 9xxxx routes.

It turns out these are the designations for "Federal Lands Roads" and after several hours of compiling it seems to me these are roads that are open to the public in some way (i.e. internal roads on military bases for example do not turn up as anything).  For 90003, 90004 and 90005, the designation is "primary state highway" instead.  I did not find 90000, 90001 or 90002 (I still think BR Pkwy and Skyline Dr would be two of these if not for VA 48) but found the following list before I got tired of trying to fill in gaps with harder-to-locate 9xxxx roads.

I imagine some 9xxxx roads have been discontinued.

Here is the list of what I found:

90003 - Colonial Pkwy (primary)
90004 - Dulles Apt Rd (primary)
90005 - GW Pkwy (primary)
90006 - Rudder Rd Dulles Apt
90007 - Cargo Dr and Aviation Dr Dulles Apt
90011 - Saarinen Cir Dulles Apt
90012 - Ariane Way Dulles Apt
90013 - Materials Rd Dulles Apt
90015 - Cockpit Ct Dulles Apt
90017 - Package Ln Dulles Apt
90018 - directly west from 90013
90019 - Thomas Ave Natl Apt
90020 - Potomac View Dr Natl Apt
90021 - road west of TSA Natl Apt
90022 - Air Cargo Rd Natl Apt
90023 - Abingdon Dr Natl Apt
90024 - National Ave Natl Apt
90025 - Aviation Cir Natl Apt
90026 - Entrance Dr Natl Apt
90027 - Turkey Run Rd off GW Pkwy
90028 - Access Rd from GW Pkwy to Turkey Run Rd
90029 - Iwo Jima Memorial Access Rd
90031 - Great Falls Park off SR 738
90032 - Colonial Farm Rd off VA 193
90033 - loop off SR 676 Wolf Trap
90034 - underpass of SR 676 Wolf Trap
90035 - Wolf Trap
90037 - Trap Rd Wolf Trap
90038 - back road at Wolf Trap
90039 - Law Enforcement Access at Manassas Battlefield
90040 - Brawner Farm Access Manassas Battlefield
90041 - 5th Regiment NY Monument Manassas Battlefield
90043 - Chin Ridge Rd off VA 234 Manassas Battlefield
90050 - PW Forest Vis Center Rd
90051 - Entrance off SR 619 to PW Forest Park
90052 - Scenic Dr - PW Forest Park
90057 - PW Forest Campground
90058 - PW Forest Campground
90059 - PW Forest Campground
90071 - CIA exit off GW Pkwy
90073 - Fort Hunt Rd off GW Pkwy plus NE access
90075 - Fort Hunt Rd SW access from GW Pkwy
90078 - Music Center Dr BR Pkwy
90079 - side road off Music Center Dr BR Pkwy
90084 - Rocky Knob Campground BR Pkwy
90085 - Rocky Knob Campground BR Pkwy
90086 - Rocky Knob Campground BR Pkwy
90087 - Smart View Rec Area BR Pkwy
90088 - Smart View Rec Area BR Pkwy
90089 - US 221 Conn to BR Pkwy s of Roanoke
90092 - Mill Mtn Pkwy BR Pkwy
90095 - Roanoke River Dr BR Pkwy
90096 - Johnson Farm Rd Peaks of Otter BR Pkwy
90097 - Johnson Farm Rd Peaks of Otter BR Pkwy
90098 - Peaks of Otter Lodge BR PKwy
90107 - Otter Creek Rec Area BR Pkwy
90108 - Otter Creek Campground BR Pkwy
90113 - Dundo Campground Rd Skyline Dr
90114 - Dundo Campground Skyline Dr
90115 - Loft Mtn Rd Skyline Dr
90116 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90117 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90118 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90119 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90120 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90121 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90122 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90123 - Loft Mtn Campground Skyline Dr
90124 - Simmons Gap Ranger Station Skyline Dr
90127 - Lewis Mtn Picnic Area Skyline Dr
90129 - Rocky Knob BR Pkwy
90130 - Rocky Knob BR Pkwy
90131 - connects BR Pkwy to VA 130
90132 - Big Meadows Lodge Access Skyline Dr
90133 - Big Meadows Wayside Skyline Dr
90134 - Big Meadows WWTP Rd Skyline Dr
90135 - Big Meadows Maintenance Rd Skyline Dr
90136 - across from Big Meadows Maintenance Rd Skyline Dr
90137 - Big Meadows Skyline Dr
90139 - Big Meadows Lodge
90140 - Big Meadows Campground Skyline Dr
90141 - Big Meadows Campground Skyline Dr
90142 - Big Meadows Campground Skyline Dr
90143 - Big Meadows Campground Skyline Dr
90148 - Skyland Upper Lp Skyline Dr
90149 - Skyland Lower Lp Skyline Dr
90150 - Skyland WWTP Rd Skyline Dr
90152 - just s of Pinnacles Picnic Skyline Dr
90153 - Pinnacles Picnic Skyline Dr
90156 - Mathews Arm Campground Access Skyline Dr
90160 - Dickey Ridge Visitor Center Skyline Dr
90161 - Dickey Ridge Visitor Center Skyline Dr
90163 - Gordon Dr Appomattox
90164 - Richmond-Lynchburg Stage Ln Appomattox
90165 - Bocock-Isbell House access Appomattox
90166 - George Peers Dr NE Appomattox
90167 - National Park Dr from VA 24 Appomattox
90168 - National Park Dr past parking area Appomattox
90169 - Bocock Ln Appomattox
90170 - George Peers Dr S Appomattox
90171 - Chincoteague Seashore Causeway
90172 - Wildlife Dr Chincoteague Seashore
90174 - Wildlife Loop Chincoteague Seashore
90175 - Access to Booker T Washington NM
90176 - Booker T Washington NM side road off VA 122
90177 - side road at parking area Booker T Washington NM
90179 - Jamestown Settlement
90180 - Short Tour Loop Jamestown
90181 - Full Tour Loop Jamestown
90182 - Historical Tour Rd Yorktown (n US 17 overpass)
90183 - Historical Tour Rd Yorktown
90184 - Historical Tour Rd Yorktown
90185 - Historical Tour Rd Yorktown (s US 17 overpass)
90186 - Historical Tour Rd Yorktown
90200 - Gulick Rd Ft Monroe
90201 - Fuller Ln Ft Monroe
90202 - Rose Cir Ft Monroe
90203 - Battery Derussey Ft Monroe
90204 - Hill Ewell Dr Wilderness Battlefield
90205 - Stuart Dr Chancellorsville Battlefield
90206 - Ranger Ln Chancellorsville Battlefield
90207 - Chancellorsville Battlefield Visitor Center
90208 - Hooker Dr Chancellorsville Battlefield
90209 - Slocum Dr/McLaws Dr Chancellorsville Battlefield
90210 - Berry Paxton Dr Chancellorsville Battlefield
90211 - Jackson Tr Chancellorsville Battlefield
90212 - Jackson Tr Chancellorsville Battlefield
90217 - Chatham Heights Fredericksburg Battlefield
90219 - Fredericksburg Battlefield Natl Cemetery
90222 - Lee Dr Fredericksburg Battlefield
90223 - Stonewall Jackson Shrine
90224 - Bridges Creek Rd GW Birthplace
90228 - side road Grants HQ Hopewell
90229 - Grants HQ Hopewell
90230 - Siege Rd Petersburg Battlefield
90235 - Beaver Dam Creek Battlefield off VA 156
90236 - Garthright House Cold Harbor Battlefield
90237 - Anderson Wright Dr Cold Harbor Battlefield
90241 - Battlefield Park Rd Fort Harrison area
90242 - Hoke Brady Rd in Fort Harrison area
90244 - Chickahominy Bluff of US 360
90500 - Russell Dr Quantico between SR 637 and just east of US 1

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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2022, 06:16:17 PM »

I do not feel right bragging about having clinched VA 90230.   :-D
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2022, 06:20:00 PM »

^ You mean you haven't clinched VA 90500?  Pity...
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2022, 06:47:51 PM »

^ You mean you haven't clinched VA 90500?  Pity...

I am sure I know people that have (probably my dad, one of my closest friends, etc.), but I personally have not.
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2022, 06:50:52 PM »

I drove most of 90500 every workday from April 1996 to August 1998.  Only got the part west of I-95 a few times though...
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2022, 06:57:33 PM »

90244 is one of those blink-and-you’ll-miss-it driveways. I worked across the street from it for awhile and it was rarely ever visited.
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2022, 09:30:56 AM »

Good to see I've clinched VA 90500.

Too bad I've never been on VA 90210...
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2022, 09:42:40 AM »

Evidently I have clinched VA 90026. Woo. A deep pit in my stomach about having never clinched a route in Virginia has been filled.

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2022, 08:17:45 PM »

When the military left Fort Monroe, the company I was working for at the time were the ones that moved them out. We were all over the place in there. Until now I had no idea about the 9xxxx routes there. Now that the former base is wide open I'm pretty sure a lot of people outside the roadgeek community have clinched 90202 (because of Paradise Ocean Club) many times over.
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2022, 09:36:07 AM »

It's a shame that 90210 doesn't go to some high school populated by snobby kids.

(Watching that show was a guilty pleasure of mine back in the 1990s.)
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2022, 09:39:58 AM »

It's a shame that 90210 doesn't go to some high school populated by snobby kids.

(Watching that show was a guilty pleasure of mine back in the 1990s.)

There IS a high school about 2 miles from VA 90210, though I don't know if the kids there are snobby.  :-D
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2022, 10:38:40 AM »

Messing around some more with the arcgis site I was able to get it to show a list (after substantial scrolling) of these 9xxxx routes.

All numbers 90003 through 90246, plus 90500 are the entirety of the list.  But the list doesn't say where there are at, so it is a slow process to identify where these are.  Spot checking the gaps in my list, the only facility I have found I completely missed was Cumberland Gap campground (I checked the actual parking area but didn't look far enough afield).

Incidentally there are well over 1000 school routes per a summary table so I am curious how that works when these have been the 9000-series routes.

Also, ramps are given individual numbers, and these are 99xxx. 

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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2022, 12:34:43 PM »

Messing around some more with the arcgis site I was able to get it to show a list (after substantial scrolling) of these 9xxxx routes.

All numbers 90003 through 90246, plus 90500 are the entirety of the list.  But the list doesn't say where there are at, so it is a slow process to identify where these are.  Spot checking the gaps in my list, the only facility I have found I completely missed was Cumberland Gap campground (I checked the actual parking area but didn't look far enough afield).

Incidentally there are well over 1000 school routes per a summary table so I am curious how that works when these have been the 9000-series routes.

Also, ramps are given individual numbers, and these are 99xxx. 



The map is a bit weird because some of the numbered routes aren't labeled, particularly primary routes in independent cities.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2022, 10:04:04 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2022, 10:17:14 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?

Because that would be a living nightmare with the massive state-maintained secondary route system Virginia has.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2022, 07:50:56 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?

Because that would be a living nightmare with the massive state-maintained secondary route system Virginia has.

The routes have to be cataloged somehow. That's easier done with numbers than names. Even in Kentucky, where we definitely have county- and city-maintained roads and streets, there are internal numbering systems. It's rare that the counties post the route numbers, but they're there.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2022, 07:06:22 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?

Because that would be a living nightmare with the massive state-maintained secondary route system Virginia has.
Does anyone ever refer to those roads by their number? I would think not they would say the live on whatever the street name they are on and not Hwy 1535 or something like that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2022, 07:33:24 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?

Because that would be a living nightmare with the massive state-maintained secondary route system Virginia has.
Does anyone ever refer to those roads by their number? I would think not they would say the live on whatever the street name they are on and not Hwy 1535 or something like that.

The last time I was there, many people in western Hanover County were still calling the roads by the numbers, even the secondary routes (600 and above). They didn't say "Route" or anything in front of it, literally just the number: 33, 54, 271, 610, 623, 657, etc. The exception to this was US 1, which was referred to as "Numba One".

I think it's just common in many rural areas because back in the day the roads in many places didn't have names at all.
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2022, 12:26:51 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?

Because that would be a living nightmare with the massive state-maintained secondary route system Virginia has.
Does anyone ever refer to those roads by their number? I would think not they would say the live on whatever the street name they are on and not Hwy 1535 or something like that.

If anyone does use a number they have probably been around a while. Just about every street and road, even out in rural areas, has a name due to improvements in the 911 system. Newer (younger) residents may be aware of some numbers but typically refer to a road by name.
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Re: VA 9xxxx routes explained
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2022, 12:46:04 PM »

It's been my observation that some of the counties signpost roads with names; others do not. Going strictly from memory, even some of the primary state and US routes have names, and the names on the local signs don't always match up with what the state posts on signs (Orby Cantrell, George C. Peery, etc.)
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2022, 07:56:49 PM »

I never understood why every road in Virgina has to get a number. They even number short dead end residential streets. Even though they have names. Why not just go by their names?

Because that would be a living nightmare with the massive state-maintained secondary route system Virginia has.
Does anyone ever refer to those roads by their number? I would think not they would say the live on whatever the street name they are on and not Hwy 1535 or something like that.

Occasionally. In Fairfax County, Route 644 is sometimes called such (and is almost always called such by radio traffic reporters) because it changes names from Franconia Road to Old Keene Mill Road when it crosses I-95. The Fairfax County Parkway was often called simply “7100” before it was renumbered as a primary route, though it was again mostly traffic reporters who did that.
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