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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/s8fsFLDyMDhhjUMb6
The NB Garden State Parkway does not go to US 22 here.   

Thankfully soon new signs will go up as part of the intersection improvements project replacing the overpass ahead. 
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe


odditude


roadman65

Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

CardInLex

Quote from: roadman65 on November 30, 2021, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: odditude on November 29, 2021, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 29, 2021, 11:33:36 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/s8fsFLDyMDhhjUMb6
The NB Garden State Parkway does not go to US 22 here.   

... but that ramp does.

The ramp is not the NB Parkway.

I think the sign is more right than it is wrong. But, if I were designing it, I would eliminate the "north"  and "to"  since you can take that ramp to join NB and SB Garden State Pkwy and EB and WB US 22.

roadman65

Quote from: CardInLex on November 30, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 30, 2021, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: odditude on November 29, 2021, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 29, 2021, 11:33:36 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/s8fsFLDyMDhhjUMb6
The NB Garden State Parkway does not go to US 22 here.   

... but that ramp does.

The ramp is not the NB Parkway.

I think the sign is more right than it is wrong. But, if I were designing it, I would eliminate the "north"  and "to"  since you can take that ramp to join NB and SB Garden State Pkwy and EB and WB US 22.

The old text signs it replaced did just say "PARKWAY " and " US 22."
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

mrsman

Quote from: CardInLex on November 30, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 30, 2021, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: odditude on November 29, 2021, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 29, 2021, 11:33:36 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/s8fsFLDyMDhhjUMb6
The NB Garden State Parkway does not go to US 22 here.   

... but that ramp does.

The ramp is not the NB Parkway.

I think the sign is more right than it is wrong. But, if I were designing it, I would eliminate the "north"  and "to"  since you can take that ramp to join NB and SB Garden State Pkwy and EB and WB US 22.

Agreed.  For 82 WB traffic, this is the ramp to reach any direction of 22 and any direction of GSP.  You don't take the parkway to 22 from here.  You don't take 22 to reach the parkway from here.  The ramp leads to both.

The simplest way of addressing it would be to just remove the words "NORTH" and "TO" from the existing sign, and then hope that the following signs all make it clear to drivers which way they should go.  IMO a few key signs seem to be missing.

This is good.  But I'd remove the "JCT".

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6946979,-74.2608222,3a,75y,52.31h,82.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ8ZywAxSc82XPim3nOATuA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

At the gore there is a prominent sign for GSP north, but no so much for GSP south.  Even though GSP south is free, I would recommend a trailblazer of equal size in the gore for the southbound GSP and another reminder for US 22 to head to the right.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6949049,-74.2603717,3a,75y,52.31h,82.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqciTbxP2kYOdVnnAUoVqAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Who yields to whom over here?  Perhaps a yield or a merge sign is in order here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.695146,-74.2594511,3a,75y,104.04h,74.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR9S750ELPrtbH-r63_Qshw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This sign certainly needs more.  From the persepective of EB 22 drivers, the left ramp is for SB GSP, WB 82, and WB 22 (u-turn).  But given that some WB 82 drivers are also seeing this sign a WB 22 shield and even the Somerville control should also be added here.  There also needs to reassurance of some kind, ideally an overhead sign, that going straight will lead you to EB 22 to Newark.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6954412,-74.258677,3a,75y,95.16h,74.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swms8fwxqwwp620cNryLh3g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


Entrance ramps onto Highway A that are right before a major interchange with Highway B are always a little tricky.  It is definitely a ramp to Highway A.  But given the lane configuraions, often when you use the ramp, it is easier to take the exit to Highway B (which is probably the next right exit) then it would be to stay with Highway A (which may require multiple lane changes).  So even if a particular entrance like this is more useful for highway B, it would still be an entrance to Highway A, as a technical matter.

Here's an example of another similar mistake:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1412309,-118.1541134,3a,75y,288.19h,79.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWxL4arw9DgBUfs0Hhf95yQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is an on-ramp to the 710 NB stub in Pasadena.  It is signed as an entrance to WB 134, but it really isn't an entrance to 134.  It also isn't exclusively an entrance to 134, as you can still reach 210 EB or WB from this ramp as well.

Other signs do let drivers know that you can reach either freeway here, but it still signed as an official entrance to 134.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1409302,-118.1541286,3a,15y,343.04h,91.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sne8aTaDGIOsz7DQnoGqDsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

As the 710 project to connect Pasadena to Alhambra is basically dead, to the extent that the Pasadena stub is kept by Caltrans, it should get a new separate number (i.e. 789*) .  Then this would be an entrance directly to that highway which leads to the other freeways.  So signs can say: 789 north to 210 and 134 freeways and the freeway entrance sign should absolutely have the 789 shield.

* Random number

sprjus4

This overhead signage was recently replaced to be on a new gantry alongside new Express Lane overhead signage, and I couldn't help but notice "I-464" now reads "I-264". I didn't manage to get a picture, unfortunately, as it was last minute.

It's just blatantly incorrect.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8013383,-76.2002036,3a,47.4y,230.36h,92.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szNSQ6utAAuUZLTZquBtwAw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

HTM Duke

I spotted this error shield about a week ago, but the error's not too obvious:

https://goo.gl/maps/PqG9jE5WXYrxESVt6

It should be 686A, not 686.

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LilianaUwU

Quote from: HTM Duke on December 24, 2021, 07:54:07 PM
I spotted this error shield about a week ago, but the error's not too obvious:

https://goo.gl/maps/PqG9jE5WXYrxESVt6

It should be 686A, not 686.

And since it's closed, it should be covered and not say anything at all.
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roadman65

This US 17 shield should have an ALT or Alternate Banner above it.

Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

roadman65

Another goofy in SC.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51796867584/in/photostream/

SC 63 is supposed to be signed NORTH not EAST.

Although technically SC 63 runs more E-W than N-S, but SCDOT and their rule all odd numbers N-S and all even numbers E-W hence why US 52 is signed E-W in a state where it runs N-S.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

roadman65

#4961
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/8697701913/in/dateposted-public/
Should be an Orange County Pentagon shield here. Though I have been told now this assembly is now removed.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Declan127



This assembly is not on either of these latter two routes. In fact, 17 is an E-W route the last time I checked, as is 287.
Imma New Yoikah, fuggedaboudit!

roadman65

NY 17 is N-S Route on the section between the Jersey Line and the Quickway in Woodbury.




This one here is ALT US 17. The word ALT abbreviation faded beyond recognition.


Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

7/8

I found an example on Highway 6 in Fergus, ON (GSV link).

There are two lanes going northbound. The sign is a thru-right lane designation sign (Rb-44) over a "right lane exits" sign. These are contradictory since "right lane exits" means the right lane can't go straight.

At the light ahead, you'll see the left lane is thru-only and the right lane becomes a right-only turn lane. Therefore, the Rb-44 should be replaced with a right lane designation sign (Rb-42).

roadman65

I'm not complaining, but this sign should have a TO between US 401 and SC 403 being the latter does not connect with the freeway here directly.

Though close enough away, still you have to use US 401 south to reach SC 403 from the exit in the photo.

Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

US71

A few years back in Oklahoma



Do you go left or right?
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ClassicHasClass

Just make sure you yield to traffic, either, uh, way.

rlb2024

Don't know if this has already been posted and I'm not going through almost 200 pages of posts to see, but this is in Fairhope, AL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5457045,-87.8963539,3a,28.6y,37.1h,84.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spvcFvzbpfgRHnhe0pQxkcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's US 98, not Alabama 98.

Big John

Quote from: rlb2024 on February 24, 2022, 04:39:58 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted and I'm not going through almost 200 pages of posts to see, but this is in Fairhope, AL:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5457045,-87.8963539,3a,28.6y,37.1h,84.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spvcFvzbpfgRHnhe0pQxkcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's US 98, not Alabama 98.

US/State shield mixup thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.0

FredAkbar

Quote from: Big John on February 24, 2022, 05:09:25 PM
US/State shield mixup thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.0

Is there a thread for US/Interstate shield mixup? If not, this can go here: the temporary sign for the 380 ramp from 101S in San Bruno, CA has US highway shields for the (interstates) 380 and 280:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6406344,-122.4060525,3a,75y,182.17h,94.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0-eKJekdeMyg5nbbrNY1ig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I had originally assumed that was some default option when ordering the sign, perhaps because it's cheaper for some reason, but after reading this thread I figure it's just human error.


roadman65

US 48 in New York.
https://goo.gl/maps/7YxYWnv1Uh8GMrzu5


Or should this count the same as a US Route shielded as a state designation and be posted in that thread? Whatever, I always have trouble finding that thread as the search engine here isn't all that great.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

odditude

Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2022, 09:04:02 PM
US 48 in New York.
https://goo.gl/maps/7YxYWnv1Uh8GMrzu5


Or should this count the same as a US Route shielded as a state designation and be posted in that thread? Whatever, I always have trouble finding that thread as the search engine here isn't all that great.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.0

hotdogPi

Costumes required. And no parking even if you do wear costumes.



A school should really know better.


Not a road sign, but the same error again:
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NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

odditude

Quote from: 1 on March 20, 2022, 11:34:14 AM
A school should really know better.


they're a grammar school, not a spelling school



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