Virginia

[jmacswimmer]

95 is a much a bigger local, state, and national priority since the surrender at Appotomax Courthouse.

I don't know, there's that famous quote from General Grant about how US 460 should be upgraded to an interstate corridor.

Also it's Appomattox. But I'm not surprised you spelled it like Potomac.

Ah yes. Don't forget when Patrick Henry made that famous speech about how I-295 should be routed around both Richmond and Petersburg.

Give me an 85 mph speed limit on I-366 or give me death!

And as we all know, Jamestown was founded by English explorers who were looking for an alternate route to I-64 on the Peninsula.

And speaking of I-64, Thomas Jefferson was, of course, very influential in getting the highway west of Richmond routed along the US 250 corridor versus the US 60 corridor so that he could get to & from Monticello more easily.

[WillWeaverRVA]

95 is a much a bigger local, state, and national priority since the surrender at Appotomax Courthouse.

I don't know, there's that famous quote from General Grant about how US 460 should be upgraded to an interstate corridor.

Also it's Appomattox. But I'm not surprised you spelled it like Potomac.

Ah yes. Don't forget when Patrick Henry made that famous speech about how I-295 should be routed around both Richmond and Petersburg.

Give me an 85 mph speed limit on I-366 or give me death!

And as we all know, Jamestown was founded by English explorers who were looking for an alternate route to I-64 on the Peninsula.

Oh right, when Captain John Smith paved VA 359 to accomplish just that.

[VTGoose]

95 is a much a bigger local, state, and national priority since the surrender at Appotomax Courthouse.

I don't know, there's that famous quote from General Grant about how US 460 should be upgraded to an interstate corridor.

Also it's Appomattox. But I'm not surprised you spelled it like Potomac.

Ah yes. Don't forget when Patrick Henry made that famous speech about how I-295 should be routed around both Richmond and Petersburg.

Give me an 85 mph speed limit on I-366 or give me death!

And as we all know, Jamestown was founded by English explorers who were looking for an alternate route to I-64 on the Peninsula.

And speaking of I-64, Thomas Jefferson was, of course, very influential in getting the highway west of Richmond routed along the US 250 corridor versus the US 60 corridor so that he could get to & from Monticello more easily.

Don't forget Stonewall Jackson's influence on improvements to U.S. 11 so he had an easier time moving troops during his campaigns in the Shenandoah Valley.

[Mapmikey]

95 is a much a bigger local, state, and national priority since the surrender at Appotomax Courthouse.

I don't know, there's that famous quote from General Grant about how US 460 should be upgraded to an interstate corridor.

Also it's Appomattox. But I'm not surprised you spelled it like Potomac.

This likely explains why Appomattox was moved the 3 miles to where it is now.  Upgrading VA 24 to interstate status was a non-starter

[Dirt Roads]

Don't forget Stonewall Jackson's influence on improvements to U.S. 11 so he had an easier time moving troops during his campaigns in the Shenandoah Valley.

And Harry Flood Byrd's insistence that there should be a turnpike between Winchester -and- Staunton.  Oops, better fact check that one.

[1995hoo]

Remember William Henry Harrison played a vital role in routing I-81 down towards Cumberland Gap to make it easier to loop around to the south of the western counties to reach Ohio via Kentucky.

[Rothman]

The derailing of this thread has gone too far.

[1995hoo]

The derailing of this thread has gone too far.

Make sure the trains run only along the I-95 corridor, otherwise bluecountry will be upset.

[VTGoose]

The derailing of this thread has gone too far.

Make sure the trains run only along the I-95 corridor, otherwise bluecountry will be upset.

TRAINS??!!? We don't need trains, alternative transportation sucks money away from highway projects! We must pave the earth first!

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/Y8aFFPTymFZvVobq8

Is there a reason why VDOT won't allow AASHTO to make VA 37 part of US 11 and create a Business route for US 11 along existing Route through Dowtown?

If this were Georgia, like with US 41 at Valdosta using the Permiter as Mainline US 41, I'm sure they would create a business route for US 11 here and co-sign VA 37 with US 11.

The above link of GSV seems to  show VDOT  having imply US 11 as de facto Business route already.

[famartin]

https://goo.gl/maps/Y8aFFPTymFZvVobq8

Is there a reason why VDOT won't allow AASHTO to make VA 37 part of US 11 and create a Business route for US 11 along existing Route through Dowtown?

If this were Georgia, like with US 41 at Valdosta using the Permiter as Mainline US 41, I'm sure they would create a business route for US 11 here and co-sign VA 37 with US 11.

The above link of GSV seems to  show VDOT  having imply US 11 as de facto Business route already.

37 is intended to be a complete beltway. That's probably part of their reasoning.

[plain]

https://goo.gl/maps/Y8aFFPTymFZvVobq8

Is there a reason why VDOT won't allow AASHTO to make VA 37 part of US 11 and create a Business route for US 11 along existing Route through Dowtown?

If this were Georgia, like with US 41 at Valdosta using the Permiter as Mainline US 41, I'm sure they would create a business route for US 11 here and co-sign VA 37 with US 11.

The above link of GSV seems to  show VDOT  having imply US 11 as de facto Business route already.

37 is intended to be a complete beltway. That's probably part of their reasoning.

If VA 37 would've existed before I-81 then I suspect it would've indeed be US 11. But no need for that now because I-81.

[famartin]

https://goo.gl/maps/Y8aFFPTymFZvVobq8

Is there a reason why VDOT won't allow AASHTO to make VA 37 part of US 11 and create a Business route for US 11 along existing Route through Dowtown?

If this were Georgia, like with US 41 at Valdosta using the Permiter as Mainline US 41, I'm sure they would create a business route for US 11 here and co-sign VA 37 with US 11.

The above link of GSV seems to  show VDOT  having imply US 11 as de facto Business route already.

37 is intended to be a complete beltway. That's probably part of their reasoning.

If VA 37 would've existed before I-81 then I suspect it would've indeed be US 11. But no need for that now because I-81.

When was 11 business in Staunton created?

[froggie]

https://goo.gl/maps/Y8aFFPTymFZvVobq8

Is there a reason why VDOT won't allow AASHTO to make VA 37 part of US 11 and create a Business route for US 11 along existing Route through Dowtown?

If this were Georgia, like with US 41 at Valdosta using the Permiter as Mainline US 41, I'm sure they would create a business route for US 11 here and co-sign VA 37 with US 11.

The above link of GSV seems to  show VDOT  having imply US 11 as de facto Business route already.

37 is intended to be a complete beltway. That's probably part of their reasoning.

If VA 37 would've existed before I-81 then I suspect it would've indeed be US 11. But no need for that now because I-81.

When was 11 business in Staunton created?

1971

[plain]

Yeah basically mainline US 11 already had its routing switched in Staunton before I-81 came, they just changed ALT to BUS there. Not the same as the Winchester situation.

[bluecountry]

95 is a much a bigger local, state, and national priority since the surrender at Appotomax Courthouse.

I don't know, there's that famous quote from General Grant about how US 460 should be upgraded to an interstate corridor.

Also it's Appomattox. But I'm not surprised you spelled it like Potomac.

Ah yes. Don't forget when Patrick Henry made that famous speech about how I-295 should be routed around both Richmond and Petersburg.

Give me an 85 mph speed limit on I-366 or give me death!

And as we all know, Jamestown was founded by English explorers who were looking for an alternate route to I-64 on the Peninsula.

And speaking of I-64, Thomas Jefferson was, of course, very influential in getting the highway west of Richmond routed along the US 250 corridor versus the US 60 corridor so that he could get to & from Monticello more easily.

I'm not sure TJ would have wanted an interstate so close to his property.
Speaking of I-64, I was on it between I-295 and SR33 yesterday, no delays, but steady volume, I am always surprised given this is a rural area.  Why isn't it more like I-66 is west of Rt 15?

[bluecountry]

The derailing of this thread has gone too far.

Make sure the trains run only along the I-95 corridor, otherwise bluecountry will be upset.

TRAINS??!!? We don't need trains, alternative transportation sucks money away from highway projects! We must pave the earth first!

No, we need everything.  Roads and rails.  I-95 in VA needs to be like the NJTP 95 corridor.

What makes it so so frustrating is the ROW is mostly there.  It is just trees!  This is NOT that hard a concept.

I say the same thing as I drive down I-81 stuck in bumper to bumper traffic or walls of trucks... there's all the room, why not widen this?

95 comes first, if after that, there is money, then yes.  But not before 95.

[bluecountry]

If you want to know what VDOT actually supports for I-95, here is the report - http://www.ctb.virginia.gov/resources/projects/cip/i-95_cip_final_report_092021.pdf

They are more inclined to improve bus/rail capacities which is a much smaller cost than the $12B they say it would cost to widen I-95 by a lane in each direction from Thornburg to Springfield.

North of Dale City the ROW is mostly NOT there to make the Express lanes bi-directional.

VDOT never seems to publish what the compensation penalty would be for various widenings in locations where the Express lanes already exist, but (especially NB) an extra lane would be helpful even if it is open only when the Express lanes are open in the opposite direction.

VDOT also solicited adding a 4th lane between Stafford Exit 140 and Centreport Pkwy Exit 136 as part of the DDI project at Stafford but no bids came in that fit within the budget VDOT had in mind.

Widening I-81 to 6-lanes everywhere was estimated to cost $4B at least 15 years ago, so I'm sure that number is double by now.  So VDOT's entire annual budget is only $6-7B...so I-81 will be piecemealed to death but I believe will be fully 6-lanes at some point.

Just make 95 a tolled facility then, anything is better than now.

[plain]

@bluecountry



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[Mapmikey]

Speaking of I-64, I was on it between I-295 and SR33 yesterday, no delays, but steady volume, I am always surprised given this is a rural area.  Why isn't it more like I-66 is west of Rt 15?

Likely because there isn't a metropolitan area of 2 million people 35 miles west of Haymarket the way there is starting 35 miles east of I-295.

[sprjus4]

Speaking of I-64, I was on it between I-295 and SR33 yesterday, no delays, but steady volume, I am always surprised given this is a rural area.  Why isn't it more like I-66 is west of Rt 15?

That segment of I-64 is always busy, lots of traffic traveling between Hampton Roads and Richmond / the I-95 corridor. During summer weekends, the highway is usually congested with rolling backups on the rural stretches. One accident and it's a mess.

VDOT has secured the funding needed and widening the remaining 29 miles between MM 205 and MM 234 to six lanes, and construction is planned to be complete on at least the next 10 miles west of Williamsburg by 2027-2028, meaning construction should begin within the next year or two. VDOT has already widened around 26 miles of this corridor since 2016 from four to six lanes.

[Mapmikey]

Just discovered that VA 349 has been converted to a one-way only routing (from US 501 to VA 360) and is also no longer posted anywhere including the rectangle 349 present half-way around this very short route.

GMSV - https://goo.gl/maps/f52if7BouJD4MdJ28

[74/171FAN]

Just discovered that VA 349 has been converted to a one-way only routing (from US 501 to VA 360) and is also no longer posted anywhere including the rectangle 349 present half-way around this very short route.

GMSV - https://goo.gl/maps/f52if7BouJD4MdJ28

Well I do not have to worry about clinching it now for Travel Mapping purposes.   

[dlsterner]

Just discovered that VA 349 has been converted to a one-way only routing (from US 501 to VA 360) and is also no longer posted anywhere including the rectangle 349 present half-way around this very short route.

GMSV - https://goo.gl/maps/f52if7BouJD4MdJ28

Well I do not have to worry about clinching it now for Travel Mapping purposes.   

Well, if you're in the general area of the country, MD 349 is quite clinchable. 

[74/171FAN]

Just discovered that VA 349 has been converted to a one-way only routing (from US 501 to VA 360) and is also no longer posted anywhere including the rectangle 349 present half-way around this very short route.

GMSV - https://goo.gl/maps/f52if7BouJD4MdJ28

Well I do not have to worry about clinching it now for Travel Mapping purposes.   

Well, if you're in the general area of the country, MD 349 is quite clinchable. 

Already did that one.