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cahwyguy:

--- Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 22, 2022, 02:52:10 PM ---In theory subsection (2) ought to delete the definition of 187 but it seemingly isnít?  Maybe Daniel will see this and chime in regarding the definition of 187 as being active or not:

487. 
(a) Route 187 is from Lincoln Boulevard to Route 10 via Venice Boulevard.
(b) Upon a determination by the commission that it is in the best interest of the state to do so, the commission may, upon terms and conditions approved by it, relinquish to the City of Los Angeles Route 187 within the city between the routeís western terminus at Lincoln Boulevard (approximately postmile 3.5) and its eastern terminus at Cadillac Avenue near Route 10 (approximately postmile 8.9), if the department and the city enter into an agreement providing for that relinquishment. The following conditions shall apply upon relinquishment:
(1) The relinquishment shall become effective on the date following the county recorderís recordation of the relinquishment resolution containing the commissionís approval of the terms and conditions of the relinquishment.
(2) On and after the effective date of the relinquishment, Route 187 shall cease to be a state highway.
(3) Route 187, as relinquished under this subdivision, shall be ineligible for future adoption under Section 81.
(Amended by Stats. 2015, Ch. 561, Sec. 2. (AB 810) Effective January 1, 2016.)


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I think you are confusing the legislative definition with the adopted route. There are many routes that have legislative definitions, which signals the intent of the legislature to have a route between point A and point B. At some point, a specific route is adopted and maintained. At some later point, that maintained route is either relinquished or vacated. This often has the stipulation that the relinquished physical route can't come back into state maintenance. That doesn't preclude a NEW adopted route sometime in the future between point A and point B.

When the legislature decides it no longer wants the route, it deletes the legislative definition.

(And yes, they do need to do a cleanup of the State Highway Code to get rid of dead routes and other errors, but none of the legislators are sufficiently nerdy to care).

mrsman:

--- Quote from: cahwyguy on May 23, 2022, 09:37:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 22, 2022, 02:52:10 PM ---In theory subsection (2) ought to delete the definition of 187 but it seemingly isnít?  Maybe Daniel will see this and chime in regarding the definition of 187 as being active or not:

487. 
(a) Route 187 is from Lincoln Boulevard to Route 10 via Venice Boulevard.
(b) Upon a determination by the commission that it is in the best interest of the state to do so, the commission may, upon terms and conditions approved by it, relinquish to the City of Los Angeles Route 187 within the city between the routeís western terminus at Lincoln Boulevard (approximately postmile 3.5) and its eastern terminus at Cadillac Avenue near Route 10 (approximately postmile 8.9), if the department and the city enter into an agreement providing for that relinquishment. The following conditions shall apply upon relinquishment:
(1) The relinquishment shall become effective on the date following the county recorderís recordation of the relinquishment resolution containing the commissionís approval of the terms and conditions of the relinquishment.
(2) On and after the effective date of the relinquishment, Route 187 shall cease to be a state highway.
(3) Route 187, as relinquished under this subdivision, shall be ineligible for future adoption under Section 81.
(Amended by Stats. 2015, Ch. 561, Sec. 2. (AB 810) Effective January 1, 2016.)


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I think you are confusing the legislative definition with the adopted route. There are many routes that have legislative definitions, which signals the intent of the legislature to have a route between point A and point B. At some point, a specific route is adopted and maintained. At some later point, that maintained route is either relinquished or vacated. This often has the stipulation that the relinquished physical route can't come back into state maintenance. That doesn't preclude a NEW adopted route sometime in the future between point A and point B.

When the legislature decides it no longer wants the route, it deletes the legislative definition.

(And yes, they do need to do a cleanup of the State Highway Code to get rid of dead routes and other errors, but none of the legislators are sufficiently nerdy to care).

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In some ways, it would seem to make more sense if the highway definitions were more regulatory rather than statutory.  What it would mean is that Caltrans would be delegated to maintain the highway system and assign the route numbering and the legislature would not be involved.

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