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Named Routes and their Unique Shields: A Picture Challenge

Started by jbnv, May 23, 2016, 03:31:59 PM

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paulthemapguy

The photo for Scenic US412 seems to adhere to rule #10 in the OP, if I'm not mistaken.

Also don't make up too many rules or no one will want to contribute, because of the long-adopted Internet rule of "TL;DR."  Half of the rules in my original 1-2-3 game elucidate things people ARE allowed to do.  Too many restrictions and people won't get the message at all:  that's why we make fun of sign salads https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7573.0
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Looks like I'm eligible to post another again already.  This time north to Trois-Rivières, Québec, for Chemin du Roy.

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opspe

Faded Coquihalla/Yellowhead South, Crowsnest, and TCH.  From 2014.


jbnv

Quote from: Ian on May 24, 2016, 07:16:41 PM
Alright, so how come that Scenic US 412 marker posted way above count, and not this? And what about that CT 15? Even if those shields are unique to their perspective roads (although I'm sure there are other scenic US route shields similar to the one posted and there *were* other route examples of the CT outline shields that used to exist), you said it yourself about the CR 215, "[They] would choose to sign other routes in this manner and just hasn't done so."

CR 215 is the only road that has shields like this, yet you're disqualifying it because of the very distant fact that Clark County could put up more. It's not my game, but c'mon man...

US 412 and CT 15 clearly do not count, but I simply ignored them. I don't have the power to delete posts. Notice that I am not including any numbered route on the tracking list (which I need to update after this post).

The CR 215 sign was unique enough to warrant a discussion.

I'll say this: If I don't add your sign to the list, I'm not counting it.

Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:24:24 PM
The photo for Scenic US412 seems to adhere to rule #10 in the OP, if I'm not mistaken.

"Shields that use a unique image inside a standard shield (e.g. BC-3) are acceptable." I don't follow how this applies to the US 412 shield. It looks like a unisign that could have just as easily been done with a banner.

Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:24:24 PM
Also don't make up too many rules or no one will want to contribute, because of the long-adopted Internet rule of "TL;DR."  Half of the rules in my original 1-2-3 game elucidate things people ARE allowed to do.  Too many restrictions and people won't get the message at all:  that's why we make fun of sign salads https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7573.0

I understand that people don't want to participate in a game with too many rules. I did my best to clarify what I intended. The word "unique" isn't quite succinct enough. I had to make it clear that by "unique" I meant "custom or singular" and not "only one in existence, etc."
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vdeane

What you're going for is not clear to see.  It should not take three pages for someone to figure it out.  While I like these challenges for the intellectual stimulation and to showcase my photo collection, given that this thread is basically a giant mystery for people to figure out by posting something and then getting slammed for breaking the very specific and not at all clear rules, as they say on Shark Tank, I'm out.
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jbnv

#55
I've been thinking of these highways ever since I watched Highway Thru Hell.

Since you didn't specify which you are counting, I'm counting it for all three Crowsnest and TCH. Do you mind waiting 15 10 signs to post again? [Ed: I missed that Yellowhead has already been posted.]

Quote from: opspe on May 24, 2016, 07:47:30 PM
Faded Coquihalla/Yellowhead South, Crowsnest, and TCH.  From 2014.


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jbnv

Quote from: vdeane on May 24, 2016, 08:09:54 PM
What you're going for is not clear to see.  It should not take three pages for someone to figure it out.  While I like these challenges for the intellectual stimulation and to showcase my photo collection, given that this thread is basically a giant mystery for people to figure out by posting something and then getting slammed for breaking the very specific and not at all clear rules, as they say on Shark Tank, I'm out.

I'm sorry that you feel that I haven't made this game clear. But how exactly am I "slamming" people over the rules? It's unfortunate that some of the first few posters didn't understand what I was seeking. But I think I have been fair in clarifying and guiding since.

If you are willing to reconsider, please take a look at the list of routes that have been posted. I think by now we have a clear pattern of what I am looking for. If you still are unclear on something, feel free to ask.
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oscar

#57
Follow-on to Jim's post for Quebec's Chemin du Roy: -- here's a name marker for a segment of super-long QC 138, somewhere east of Baie-Comeau:

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empirestate

Quote from: jbnv on May 24, 2016, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 24, 2016, 08:09:54 PM
What you're going for is not clear to see.  It should not take three pages for someone to figure it out.  While I like these challenges for the intellectual stimulation and to showcase my photo collection, given that this thread is basically a giant mystery for people to figure out by posting something and then getting slammed for breaking the very specific and not at all clear rules, as they say on Shark Tank, I'm out.

I'm sorry that you feel that I haven't made this game clear. But how exactly am I "slamming" people over the rules? It's unfortunate that some of the first few posters didn't understand what I was seeking. But I think I have been fair in clarifying and guiding since.

If you are willing to reconsider, please take a look at the list of routes that have been posted. I think by now we have a clear pattern of what I am looking for. If you still are unclear on something, feel free to ask.

It took me a little bit to figure it out, but I eventually got the idea. I will say, I'd have thought the Clark County 215 shield would count, but it's not my game. ;-) (Perhaps that rule is best stated as: Shields that represent a system of highways don't count, even if that system currently has only one member [see also DC 295].)

In any event, people are definitely grasping this one better than they are my Municipalities brain-teaser. I'm not sure I've even had a single submission that correctly pertains to the game! :)

US71

Quote from: empirestate on May 24, 2016, 09:09:52 PM

It took me a little bit to figure it out, but I eventually got the idea. I will say, I'd have thought the Clark County 215 shield would count, but it's not my game. ;-) (Perhaps that rule is best stated as: Shields that represent a system of highways don't count, even if that system currently has only one member [see also DC 295].)

In that case my Scenic 412 would be null and void. I'm like, totally confuzzled now.

I fold.
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Alex

Well regarding Clark County 215 in Nevada, I believe the beltway is a special case route, as the county signs no others and created the designation simply for their portion of the beltway. I think of it more like Charlotte City Route 4, which is the lone signed route of that class. Anyway  :spin: moving to:



The original JFK Memorial Highway trailblazer for I-95 in Maryland. You could argue that the shape is a replication of both the original Dallas Fort Worth Turnpike and the Richmond Petersburg Turnpike trailblazers, but all three had different designs otherwise.

jbnv

Quote from: empirestate on May 24, 2016, 09:09:52 PM
Perhaps that rule is best stated as: Shields that represent a system of highways don't count, even if that system currently has only one member [see also DC 295].)

On point.

Quote from: empirestate on May 24, 2016, 09:09:52 PM
In any event, people are definitely grasping this one better than they are my Municipalities brain-teaser. I'm not sure I've even had a single submission that correctly pertains to the game! :)

It's definitely not a simple task. It makes total sense in your mind, yet others just don't get it. Hence clarification and rulings.
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peterj920



Scenic Byway in Northern Door County

jbnv

Quote from: peterj920 on May 25, 2016, 01:03:20 AM
Scenic Byway in Northern Door County

Does it have a name? (The shield counts but I need a highway name to go with it.)
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peterj920

Quote from: jbnv on May 25, 2016, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: peterj920 on May 25, 2016, 01:03:20 AM
Scenic Byway in Northern Door County

Does it have a name? (The shield counts but I need a highway name to go with it.)

Door County Coastal Byway.  It has its own website

http://doorcountycoastalbyway.org/

formulanone

Maine Turnpike sign and eye-ninety-wide shield:


Wide I-95 / Maine Turnpike Signs by formulanone, on Flickr

hbelkins

One-of-a-kind and no-longer-standing "KY 38" sign in Keokee, Va.

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jbnv

Sam Houston Tollway, via Flickr user Daniel:

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Jim

Here's a little better view of a Sam Houston Tollway shield:



Pretty old - taken almost 13 years ago.
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jbnv

Hopefully the new title makes this more clear: Our goal is to collect named routes with unique shields. I'm sorry that I didn't make the part about named routes clearer sooner.
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SignGeek101

Quote from: jbnv on May 25, 2016, 08:54:43 PM
Hopefully the new title makes this more clear: Our goal is to collect named routes with unique shields. I'm sorry that I didn't make the part about named routes clearer sooner.

If the road has a named route with a unique shield, but also a "normal shield" (PR, SR, US, INTERSTATE) does that count?

jbnv

Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 25, 2016, 11:44:40 PM
If the road has a named route with a unique shield, but also a "normal shield" (PR, SR, US, INTERSTATE) does that count?

The named route with the unique shield counts. The normal shield does not.

FTR, a named route with a unique modification of a normal shield DOES count (see BC-3, Wis-32).
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dgolub

I'm rather astonished that no one has done any of the Long Island parkways yet.


jbnv

Are you counting both (for a longer wait before posting again) or just one?
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