Illinois notes

[kphoger]

Note that this bridge is half of the only route people can take via bridge from Kentucky to Missouri.  The bridge isn't just going to facilitate trips involving Illinoisans.

Indeed, it's part of my preferred route from Wichita to Nashville:  it's 70 miles shorter to go that way than to take the Interstates through KC and St Louis, and a lot better traffic.  Plenty of long-distance east-west traffic on that bridge, including trucks.

Yes. A few trucking firms get off at I-24 at Paducah and cut through Cairo to reach US-60 in Missouri.

You don't even actually go through Cairo to get there.  You're only in Illinois for about one mile on that route between the bridges.

[edwaleni]

Note that this bridge is half of the only route people can take via bridge from Kentucky to Missouri.  The bridge isn't just going to facilitate trips involving Illinoisans.

Indeed, it's part of my preferred route from Wichita to Nashville:  it's 70 miles shorter to go that way than to take the Interstates through KC and St Louis, and a lot better traffic.  Plenty of long-distance east-west traffic on that bridge, including trucks.

Yes. A few trucking firms get off at I-24 at Paducah and cut through Cairo to reach US-60 in Missouri.

You don't even actually go through Cairo to get there.  You're only in Illinois for about one mile on that route between the bridges.

At least downtown Cairo that is. The actual city limits go from Fort Defiance all the way to I-57.

[kphoger]

Note that this bridge is half of the only route people can take via bridge from Kentucky to Missouri.  The bridge isn't just going to facilitate trips involving Illinoisans.

Indeed, it's part of my preferred route from Wichita to Nashville:  it's 70 miles shorter to go that way than to take the Interstates through KC and St Louis, and a lot better traffic.  Plenty of long-distance east-west traffic on that bridge, including trucks.

Yes. A few trucking firms get off at I-24 at Paducah and cut through Cairo to reach US-60 in Missouri.

You don't even actually go through Cairo to get there.  You're only in Illinois for about one mile on that route between the bridges.

At least downtown Cairo that is. The actual city limits go from Fort Defiance all the way to I-57.

Far enough away that you can't actually see Cairo from the junction.  If you didn't already know Cairo was north of there, then you'd have no idea.

[captkirk_4]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

[Crash_It]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

[edwaleni]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

Set speed limits for rational use, not revenue collection and bears arent required at all.

[inkyatari]

Set speed limits for rational use, not revenue collection and bears arent required at all.

Quoted for great truth

[mgk920]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

Set speed limits for rational use, not revenue collection and bears arent required at all.

Many speed traps are set up to ensnare even the most careful, law-abiding people.



Mike

[tribar]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

You mean the low limits that are set that way to increase revenue?

[edwaleni]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

You mean the low limits that are set that way to increase revenue?

In this specific case, the I-57 Bridge over the Mississippi River is 70mph on both sides of the bridge.

The IL bears are taking advantage of the fact that the rate of decline (grade) is somewhat high and so they sit right where the shoulder starts catching people napping on their brake use as they come down off the bridge.

The question is, just how vigilant are they? 72mph, 75mph 78mph.

2nd question is there a history of wrecks on the IL side?

Are they more aggressive in winter when ice may be present?

Cairo resides in one of the poorest counties in IL, and historically in my travels, the poorer and cash strapped the local government is, the more aggressive law enforcement is.

[abefroman329]

Cairo resides in one of the poorest counties in IL, and historically in my travels, the poorer and cash strapped the local government is, the more aggressive law enforcement is.

And any rural area loves to write tickets to out-of-town (or out-of-state) drivers who will pay the ticket rather than going down there to fight it in court.

[Crash_It]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

You mean the low limits that are set that way to increase revenue?

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

[tribar]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

You mean the low limits that are set that way to increase revenue?

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

No, it still is low for rural interstates, especially if ISP is ticketing for less than 5 over.

[kphoger]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

You mean the low limits that are set that way to increase revenue?

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

A handful being 19?

[Joe The Dragon]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

Drive the speed limit and you'll never have to worry about a speed trap.

You mean the low limits that are set that way to increase revenue?

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

No, it still is low for rural interstates, especially if ISP is ticketing for less than 5 over.

ISP lets you do 75+ in a 55 on the toll roads.

[paulthemapguy]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

What are you talking about?  There aren't any Interstates there lol.  This is US51, US60, and US62 we're talking about.  Debate is not related

[kphoger]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

What are you talking about?  There aren't any Interstates there lol.  This is US51, US60, and US62 we're talking about.  Debate is not related

See the bolded part.  There's I-57.

[mgk920]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

What are you talking about?  There aren't any Interstates there lol.  This is US51, US60, and US62 we're talking about.  Debate is not related

See the bolded part.  There's I-57.

Big Rig Steve drove SB I-57 through there about a week ago and made a comment about an ISP (or was it a Pulaski County Mountie or a local Cairo city cop?) running a radar trap in a construction zone on the part of that highway that is in the City of Cairo.  I have zero objections to doing heavy enforcement in a construction zone, BTW, but otherwise, just from watching that video, all of I-57 south of I-24 in Illinois just *screams* 'speedtrap!' to me.



Mike

[abefroman329]

I hear in that few thousand feet in Illinois they manage to run one hell of a revenue speed trap. I've seen how bad that county is on 57 with multiple cars always pulled over in that first 20 miles of Illinois that I can believe it. On google earth you can even see the bear sitting there at the base of the Ohio river bridge.

70 isn't low, it's what a majority of states have except for only a handful.

What are you talking about?  There aren't any Interstates there lol.  This is US51, US60, and US62 we're talking about.  Debate is not related

See the bolded part.  There's I-57.

Big Rig Steve drove SB I-57 through there about a week ago and made a comment about an ISP (or was it a Pulaski County Mountie or a local Cairo city cop?) running a radar trap in a construction zone on the part of that highway that is in the City of Cairo.  I have zero objections to doing heavy enforcement in a construction zone, BTW, but otherwise, just from watching that video, all of I-57 south of I-24 in Illinois just *screams* 'speedtrap!' to me.



Mike

I'm not sure if the two are connected, or if they even could be, but I believe there's a police academy in that neck of the woods, too.

[paulthemapguy]

This might interest all of youse guys. 

Included in the plan is $148.4 million for I-80 in Will County, $26 million for reconstruction of the U.S. 20 bypass in Rockford and $12.7 in improvements to I-57 downstate.

http://wgntv.com/2018/05/29/gov-rauner-announces-11-billion-infrastructure-plan/

[Brandon]

This might interest all of youse guys. 

Included in the plan is $148.4 million for I-80 in Will County, $26 million for reconstruction of the U.S. 20 bypass in Rockford and $12.7 in improvements to I-57 downstate.

http://wgntv.com/2018/05/29/gov-rauner-announces-11-billion-infrastructure-plan/

It's about damn time I-80 got some attention.

[Alex]

This might interest all of youse guys. 

Included in the plan is $148.4 million for I-80 in Will County, $26 million for reconstruction of the U.S. 20 bypass in Rockford and $12.7 in improvements to I-57 downstate.

http://wgntv.com/2018/05/29/gov-rauner-announces-11-billion-infrastructure-plan/

Saw a story on WQAD about the infrastructure plan this evening as well.
http://wqad.com/2018/05/29/il-gov-rauner-announces-11-05-billion-infrastructure-plan/

The governor announced the plan's release at Peoria's McClugage Bridge at eastbound U.S. 150, which will be replaced in 2019 at a cost of $205 million with the completion of the final design this year.

Other plan highlights include:

$26 million toward the reconstruction of U.S. 20/Rockford Bypass in Rockford
$36 million to replace and repair the Third Street exit and ramps to Martin Luther King Drive in East St. Louis
$12.7 million for additional lanes on 4.5 miles of Interstate 57 from Johnson City to West Frankfort
$148.4 million for bridge work and other improvements on Interstate 80 through Will County

[SSOWorld]

any bets on when these get shelved before realization?

[Joe The Dragon]

Willow Road seems to be getting 3 lanes from the ramps to past sanders road. Will they need to rebuild the tail bridge to fit it in?

[abefroman329]

any bets on when these get shelved before realization?

After Rauner gets re-elected.