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Re: California
« Reply #1775 on: April 06, 2023, 03:10:32 PM »

Great blast from the past, when we had real numbers and real button copy with real names for the Southland freeways. Gorgeous!

Rick

The amusing aspect of that particular sign:

The patched greenout, NOT the original sign, had the freeway name on it!  (Albeit, the original sign did not have any button copy, while the patch with the I-5 Golden State Freeway text did)

I do recall seeing some 1950s Golden State Freeway/US 6/US 99 signs existing prior to the designation of I-5, in fact the example below from the AARoads Shield Gallery is about 1 mile south of the currently revealed 99 sign!  (This one I think is specifically at the junction of the Golden State Freeway with the old Colorado Street Freeway adjacent to Glendale, the very next exit after the 134/5 junction in the recent photos - that freeway spur still exists to this day, too)
https://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=CA19550061

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Re: California
« Reply #1776 on: April 06, 2023, 05:33:07 PM »

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US 99 shield suddenly appeared on the Ventura Freway/Route 134 eastbound in Griffith Park after a greenout patch fell this week!

Is that still visible?? I might have to go out and nab some shots myself.
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« Reply #1777 on: April 06, 2023, 05:36:15 PM »

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US 99 shield suddenly appeared on the Ventura Freway/Route 134 eastbound in Griffith Park after a greenout patch fell this week!

Is that still visible?? I might have to go out and nab some shots myself.

Apparently happened yesterday.  I would venture a guess it will be visible for a couple more weeks.  I’m planning on passing by on the 16th to see if I can get photos.
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Re: California
« Reply #1778 on: April 06, 2023, 05:44:51 PM »

Cool. We'll head out on Saturday. My wife wants to do a little road trip anyway.
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Re: California
« Reply #1779 on: April 06, 2023, 09:30:35 PM »

(Albeit, the original sign did not have any button copy, while the patch with the I-5 Golden State Freeway text did)

I'm willing to bet that it did, but the buttons were removed so the patch could be installed flat to the original sign.
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Re: California
« Reply #1780 on: April 07, 2023, 02:28:32 AM »

(Albeit, the original sign did not have any button copy, while the patch with the I-5 Golden State Freeway text did)

I'm willing to bet that it did, but the buttons were removed so the patch could be installed flat to the original sign.

Someone mentioned on the Freeways of Los Angeles group that this section of 134 was built in 1962 - I think that was several years before button copy started being applied to what were originally porcelain signs. 
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Re: California
« Reply #1781 on: April 07, 2023, 02:50:14 AM »

Something that used to be super common, but a rarity now since the Van Ness Avenue bus lanes project commenced: a US 101 shield on surface streets in San Francisco!  This one is at Van Ness and Grove Street, northbound towards City Hall.

101 shield near city hall by Chris Sampang, on Flickr

For comparison I took a photo of every 101 shield on Richardson/Lombard/Van Ness back in January 2011, most of which are now gone:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/csampang/albums/72157625842961088
DSC_7696 by Chris Sampang, on Flickr

(Vintage poles like these were taken out as part of the bus lanes project, so that may explain why a lot of the shields were taken down too)
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Re: California
« Reply #1782 on: April 07, 2023, 03:35:59 PM »

Just spotted this in the Caltrans list of highway conditions:
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SR 14
[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
A HIGH WIND ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FROM THE JCT OF US 101 /IN LOS ANGELES/ TO THE JCT OF SR 126 /IN SANTA CLARITA/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - TRAVEL IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR CAMPERS, TRAILERS, OR PERMIT LOADS

So, high winds along an unconstructed segment.
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« Reply #1783 on: April 07, 2023, 03:39:56 PM »

Just spotted this in the Caltrans list of highway conditions:
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SR 14
[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
A HIGH WIND ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FROM THE JCT OF US 101 /IN LOS ANGELES/ TO THE JCT OF SR 126 /IN SANTA CLARITA/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - TRAVEL IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR CAMPERS, TRAILERS, OR PERMIT LOADS

So, high winds along an unconstructed segment.

With a deleted/unconstructed highway segment referenced in the form of CA 126. 
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Re: California
« Reply #1784 on: April 07, 2023, 04:40:58 PM »

Just spotted this in the Caltrans list of highway conditions:
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SR 14
[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
A HIGH WIND ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FROM THE JCT OF US 101 /IN LOS ANGELES/ TO THE JCT OF SR 126 /IN SANTA CLARITA/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - TRAVEL IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR CAMPERS, TRAILERS, OR PERMIT LOADS

So, high winds along an unconstructed segment.
Depends on what they are referring to. If it's Newhall Avenue (which used to be San Fernando Road), it's fully traversable and was part of CA-14 until 2002 or so. If they're referring to Golden Valley Road, which has never been part of CA-14 but is more or less the unsigned connection, I suppose that's "unconstruted" but only in a technical sense. Either way it's an odd reference. And further demonstrates my belief that relinquishment is a stupid idea and highways should be signed regardless of who maintains them.
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Re: California
« Reply #1785 on: April 07, 2023, 05:33:41 PM »

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Re: California
« Reply #1786 on: April 07, 2023, 05:58:59 PM »

(Albeit, the original sign did not have any button copy, while the patch with the I-5 Golden State Freeway text did)

I'm willing to bet that it did, but the buttons were removed so the patch could be installed flat to the original sign.

Someone mentioned on the Freeways of Los Angeles group that this section of 134 was built in 1962 - I think that was several years before button copy started being applied to what were originally porcelain signs.

Yeah, the sign is old enough to predate button copy in California. Many of the older signs had button copy applied to make them reflective.
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Re: California
« Reply #1787 on: April 07, 2023, 06:29:20 PM »

Just spotted this in the Caltrans list of highway conditions:
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SR 14
[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
A HIGH WIND ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FROM THE JCT OF US 101 /IN LOS ANGELES/ TO THE JCT OF SR 126 /IN SANTA CLARITA/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - TRAVEL IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR CAMPERS, TRAILERS, OR PERMIT LOADS

So, high winds along an unconstructed segment.
Depends on what they are referring to. If it's Newhall Avenue (which used to be San Fernando Road), it's fully traversable and was part of CA-14 until 2002 or so. If they're referring to Golden Valley Road, which has never been part of CA-14 but is more or less the unsigned connection, I suppose that's "unconstruted" but only in a technical sense. Either way it's an odd reference. And further demonstrates my belief that relinquishment is a stupid idea and highways should be signed regardless of who maintains them.

Neither of those make it anywhere near US-101, though!
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Re: California
« Reply #1788 on: April 07, 2023, 06:44:31 PM »

Strange reference to the 101 junction that is traversable via I-5/Rinaldi/Reseda. Not sure why they did that. Should have just set it to I-5.

From there 14 was supposed to follow Reseda to Mulholland to Temescal and PCH. None of that is paved except the latter.
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Re: California
« Reply #1789 on: April 09, 2023, 03:22:22 PM »

Went to look at the US 99 at the CA 134-I-5 interchange with my wife yesterday. Fabulous, well preserved. Hopefully someone kind at Caltrans will deprioritize the sign replacement for awhile. :)
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Re: California
« Reply #1790 on: April 10, 2023, 10:47:58 PM »

Mike Ballard has video clip of the US-99 sign at the CA-134@ I-5 interchange.

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Re: California
« Reply #1791 on: April 10, 2023, 11:23:52 PM »

Looks like everyone is parking on the shoulder of Zoo Drive and taking photos from Main Trail.
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Re: California
« Reply #1792 on: April 11, 2023, 12:30:50 AM »

That Camry with the hood up is a front for a roadgeek taking photos.  :-D
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« Reply #1793 on: April 11, 2023, 03:50:05 AM »

Who would have thought most people at this point in time are even aware of US 99? That’s neat how much attention this is getting.
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« Reply #1794 on: April 11, 2023, 07:48:45 AM »

On the forum it doesn’t surprise me at all.  I haven’t seen anything mainstream report on the appearance of a US 99 sign.
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Re: California
« Reply #1795 on: April 11, 2023, 12:01:19 PM »

Mike Ballard has video clip of the US-99 sign at the CA-134@ I-5 interchange.


I learned something new today: how CA-134 was routed before to link to that short Colorado Street freeway.

Also answered my question why the ramps from I-5 to CA-134 merges to the left
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Re: California
« Reply #1796 on: April 11, 2023, 05:41:28 PM »

(Albeit, the original sign did not have any button copy, while the patch with the I-5 Golden State Freeway text did)

I'm willing to bet that it did, but the buttons were removed so the patch could be installed flat to the original sign.

Someone mentioned on the Freeways of Los Angeles group that this section of 134 was built in 1962 - I think that was several years before button copy started being applied to what were originally porcelain signs.

Yeah, the sign is old enough to predate button copy in California. Many of the older signs had button copy applied to make them reflective.

I have read several times before that reflector buttons were epoxied onto the old porcelain signs in the early 1980's. I'm only 44, so I was a little too young to observe that transition, but I have wondered how exactly that was accomplished.  Were people going up onto the signs and applying those dot-by-dot?  That seems like an unimaginable amount of manual labor.  Anybody who was around then or with some insider knowledge who can elaborate onto how it was accomplished?
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Re: California
« Reply #1798 on: April 12, 2023, 06:42:21 PM »

That thread reads like “when non-road people discover US 66 wasn’t the only US Route.”
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Re: California
« Reply #1799 on: April 12, 2023, 08:05:22 PM »

Reddit thread on the US 99 sign on 134 east:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/12i5mpd/spotted_near_burbank_a_portion_of_this_sign_fell/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1





The Last time we talked about US-99 was because Caltrans accidentally put a US-99 Sign at the US-50 @ CA-51, CA-99 Interchange in Sacramento.  This was when US-50/I-305 and CA-51/Business 80 was going through a maintenance project in the area. In Sacramento there is a CA-99 that has been rumored to be I-7 or I-9 for some time.


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