__________ is/are overrated.

[abefroman329]

And there you also have the Orthodox Christian sects that still have not adopted Pope Gregory's corrected calendar and celebrate all of the holidays nearly a week after the rest of us.

Mike

David Sedaris says the Greek Orthodox Church in particular does it so they can buy discounted candy for Easter.

[1995hoo]

And there you also have the Orthodox Christian sects that still have not adopted Pope Gregory's corrected calendar and celebrate all of the holidays nearly a week after the rest of us.

Mike

David Sedaris says the Greek Orthodox Church in particular does it so they can buy discounted candy for Easter.

That's outstanding. I'm going to have to remember that line.

[hbelkins]

Our family is doing Christmas this Friday. My sister-in-law now lives in Georgetown. We had thought about doing it the weekend before Christmas, since she had to work Christmas, but she was sick. She's off this weekend so we're doing it then.

For years, I had to do my dad's birthday on a day other than his actual birthday, due to my work schedule.

[roadman65]

No the Pope is usually not mentioned. However since John Paul died many who loved him, won't give his two succeeders credit like Van Roth fans of Van Halen not giving Sammy Hagar credit for his fine contributions to the band after Diamond Dave left.

I'm a Protestant, but Van Hagar is overrated.

Never said he was. Just those who loved Dave were not at all given him a chance due to stubbornness.

Not saying I agree nor disagree with them. Just pointing out we as a culture don't like change. We hate to see people we like get replaced.  We are a stubborn race.

[roadman65]

One really cruddy thing about the scheduling of holidays is that for many, they're clustered during terrible weather months.

November -- Veterans Day and two days for Thanksgiving (and every four years, presidential election day).

December -- Two days for Christmas, and one day for New Year's (and every four years, gubernatorial inauguration day).

January -- One day for New Year's and MLK Day.

Then you have to wait until late May for Memorial Day, then July for Independence Day, then September for Labor Day, then until November when the Parade of Winter Holidays begins anew.

It would be nicer to have more holidays when the weather is warmer, and not have three-quarters of them concentrated into three months.

What gets me is over half the Christmas songs are not about Christmas, but about attributes of the Winter Season.

Let It Snow Let It Snow
Winter Wonderland
Sleigh Ride
Jingle Bells
I Saw Three Ships
Baby It's Cold Outside

None of these are about the virtues of Christmas. They're all about cold weather things. We relate the cold to December when in most places the cold weather lasts from November to May. Snow usually fell from January to March and very rarely did I have a White Christmas in New Jersey.

Yet the songs stop after Christmas Day.

Oh yes, and what does The Sound of Music have to do with Christmas? One of its tracks is used as a Christmas song.

[MultiMillionMiler]

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

[kphoger]

You do realize Christmas technically goes past the 25th?  My wife lost her shit one year when I started taking decorations down before the Epiphany. 

I saw a discussion earlier this month on another forum about when the Christmas season begins. My response: December 25. The four weeks prior that day are the Advent season.

While I agree, I should also add an asterisk by saying that Advent could be considered part of the Christmas cycle.

As for Christmas being overrated...  I love both Advent and Christmastide.  We put up the decorations on the Saturday evening before the first Sunday of Advent, and we leave them up until Epiphany.  This year, we're opening one gift on each of the 12 days of Christmas–a table game, a video game, a movie, a puzzle, something to do for fun together.  And we always leave one present till Epiphany and have a fancy holiday meal that day.  I lead family devotions, complete with singing and reading and worksheets and coloring pages.  I am definitely not anti-Christmas.  And yet I agree that it's overrated.  There is no reason that Christmas should be amped up to 500% the hype of any other holiday.  I'd rather that Easter, Thanksgiving, and Christmas were all basically on the same level as each other, but that's definitely not the way it is in reality.

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

I told you, DON'T tell Alexa to play hip-hop Christmas music.  You just didn't listen, now, did you?

[roadman65]

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

. Where? What song or songs?

The only controversy I see with sex/ romance is in movies aired on a certain cable network. Hope your not confused.

[kphoger]

You do realize Christmas technically goes past the 25th?  My wife lost her shit one year when I started taking decorations down before the Epiphany. 

I saw a discussion earlier this month on another forum about when the Christmas season begins. My response: December 25. The four weeks prior that day are the Advent season.

Right, and to someone like my wife who also happens to be traditionally Catholic that actually means something to her.

Hey, in Medieval times people used to (and in some countries people still do) go by a longer, forty-day, Christmas season–all the way to Candlemas on February 2.  They say it's bad luck to leave your decorations up past February 2, and... well, maybe someone deserves some bad luck if it's all still up at that point.   

[abefroman329]

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

Romantic/sexual themes have been inspiring composers of music for eons.

[1995hoo]

Hey, in Medieval times people used to (and in some countries people still do) go by a longer, forty-day, Christmas season–all the way to Candlemas on February 2.  They say it's bad luck to leave your decorations up past February 2, and... well, maybe someone deserves some bad luck if it's all still up at that point.   

Doesn't really seem all that out of line. Liturgically, the Easter season is 50 days, so for Christmas to be 40 days makes some amount of sense. The Presentation in the Temple (which is what the observance on February 2 reflects) occurred 40 days after the birth of Christ, in keeping with Jewish custom at the time as set down in the book of Leviticus, and is the last major event in the Gospels' "infancy narrative" (unless you count the Finding in the Temple mentioned by Luke, but that was 12 years later).

[Scott5114]

I only had a problem with music with romantic/sexual inclinations when I was a virgin.

Just sayin'.

[kphoger]

Basic ones that just happen to involve a man and woman are ok, just not the extreme sexual ...

Man-goat analingus?

[Takumi]

I only had a problem with music with romantic/sexual inclinations when I was a virgin.

Just sayin'.

Something tells me our friend unironically wears a "virginity rocks"  shirt.

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

I just assumed he was a virgin given the whole living at home this far into his 20s thing.

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

Romantic/sexual themes have been inspiring composers of music for eons.

Yeah, but it's getting too cliche, and even the themes themselves are getting shitty at their own internal level. Basic ones that just happen to involve a man and woman are ok, just not the extreme sexual overtones in basic rock/pop, All I'm saying is music shouldn't be turned into a form of audio-only porn.

Why just a man and a woman?

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm happy to remain a virgin, the risks outweigh the pleasures of sex. I'll wait until we come out with holodecks. I prefer casual friendships over romantic relationships. However, as I said earlier, a counterweight on the passenger side if a car is a good idea on that windy weavy Pennsylvania turnpike!

Nice dodge, why is heterosexual oriented themes in music okay but other orientations are not?

[roadman65]

I'm happy to remain a virgin, the risks outweigh the pleasures of sex. I'll wait until we come out with holodecks. I prefer casual friendships over romantic relationships. However, as I said earlier, a counterweight on the passenger side if a car is a good idea on that windy weavy Pennsylvania turnpike!

Nice dodge, why is heterosexual oriented themes in music okay but other orientations are not?

He probably eats at Chick Fil A.

[hbelkins]

Basic ones that just happen to involve a man and woman are ok, just not the extreme sexual ...

Man-goat analingus?

So they do celebrate Christmas in Alanland!

I'm happy to remain a virgin, the risks outweigh the pleasures of sex. I'll wait until we come out with holodecks. I prefer casual friendships over romantic relationships. However, as I said earlier, a counterweight on the passenger side if a car is a good idea on that windy weavy Pennsylvania turnpike!

And it lets you use the HOV-2 lanes.

[LilianaUwU]

^^^

I just assumed he was a virgin given the whole living at home this far into his 20s thing.

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

Romantic/sexual themes have been inspiring composers of music for eons.

Yeah, but it's getting too cliche, and even the themes themselves are getting shitty at their own internal level. Basic ones that just happen to involve a man and woman are ok, just not the extreme sexual overtones in basic rock/pop, All I'm saying is music shouldn't be turned into a form of audio-only porn.

Why just a man and a woman?

He got roasted too hard by a lesbian on Christmas Eve.

[Takumi]

^^^

I just assumed he was a virgin given the whole living at home this far into his 20s thing.

My point was that he probably considers it a point of pride, not embarrassment, and he later replied as such. Which, whatever, you do you.

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

I just assumed he was a virgin given the whole living at home this far into his 20s thing.

My point was that he probably considers it a point of pride, not embarrassment, and he later replied as such. Which, whatever, you do you.

And yet seems to have issues with non-heterosexual relations.  I'm all for "you do you,"  but he's the one who shared his very particular thoughts on what he themes he thought was okay in music.  But then again, most of the issue with MMM is that he is forceful with his opinions about how life ought to be.  Forcing opinions on others sure opens the door to people asking questions back. 

[roadman65]

^^^

I just assumed he was a virgin given the whole living at home this far into his 20s thing.

My point was that he probably considers it a point of pride, not embarrassment, and he later replied as such. Which, whatever, you do you.

And yet seems to have issues with non-heterosexual relations.  I'm all for "you do you,"  but he's the one who shared his very particular thoughts on what he themes he thought was okay in music.  But then again, most of the issue with MMM is that he is forceful with his opinions about how life ought to be.  Forcing opinions on others sure opens the door to people asking questions back. 

MMM has a lot of counterparts as always you get over opinionated people in one place or another. Obviously he is no different than others but he just happens to be here and we're stuck with him.

[Roadgeek Adam]

And yet, even for Christmas music, they still cannot leave romantic/sexual inclinations out. When will music, ever stop using relationship/sexual themes every single time.

Romantic/sexual themes have been inspiring composers of music for eons.

Yeah, but it's getting too cliche, and even the themes themselves are getting shitty at their own internal level. Basic ones that just happen to involve a man and woman are ok, just not the extreme sexual overtones in basic rock/pop, All I'm saying is music shouldn't be turned into a form of audio-only porn.

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What I want to say will get me but not you banned. If you have the views we think you do, keep then to yourself.

[roadman65]

Be careful MMM, this forum has all cultures, religions, and sexual orientations. You don't want to walk over the line the slightest.

[Takumi]

^^^

I just assumed he was a virgin given the whole living at home this far into his 20s thing.

My point was that he probably considers it a point of pride, not embarrassment, and he later replied as such. Which, whatever, you do you.

It's neither. It's a personal preference. This human obsession with sex as a status symbol is ridiculous. It's not like you can't just go hook up on MilfMe, it's not much of an achievement. I'm not forcing my opinions, that's just me.