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I-15: Farmington to Salt Lake City

Started by US 89, November 16, 2022, 01:24:38 AM

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US 89

As covered in several news sources, such as this article from KSL and a UDOT press release, it looks like UDOT is in the early stages of planning a major I-15 reconstruction and upgrade from Salt Lake City north through southern Davis County.

This stretch of 15 has received considerably less attention recently than the parts south of downtown through Utah County. The part from Salt Lake to I-15 has never had a general-purpose lane added since it first opened in the 1960s, while original pavement from the early 1970s can still be found between Centerville and Farmington. There have been a couple of significant reconstruction and repavement projects along this stretch within the last 15 years, but the scope of this looks to be far greater, impacting all of I-15 between 400 South in SLC and the US 89/Legacy junction in Farmington.

Project website: https://i15eis.udot.utah.gov/
Interactive map: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/fa4a9f9635384196b0b137766e15c2ee




A look through the alternatives they've proposed for each section so far...

I-15 mainline:
Option A - upgrade the cross section to 5 general-purpose lanes plus an auxiliary lane in each direction (pretty much all of it is 3 or 4 today), maintaining the existing HOT lane as is
Option B - same GP lane upgrades, but replace the HOT lanes with a reversible 2-lane HOT roadway that would flow south in the mornings and north in the evenings. There would be no access in or out of the reversible roadway between the endpoints

Farmington:
Option A - no additional changes
Option B - add a SPUI at Glovers Lane
Option C - convert the existing partial 200 West/Lagoon Dr interchange to a full interchange.

Centerville:
Option A - add a new connection from the Parrish Lane northbound exit to the east-side frontage road, similar to what currently exists at 10600 South in Salt Lake County
Option B -  same, but also convert the Parrish Lane interchange to a SPUI

Bountiful:
Option A - revert the 500 South DDI back into a diamond, and convert the southbound 500 West exit from the current left-exit to a more traditional right exit.
Option B - same, but eliminates the southbound 500 West exit entirely and creates a new southbound 400 North exit
Option C - same as B, but completes the 400 North interchange and adds a C/D roadway for it and 500 South

North Salt Lake/Woods Cross:
Option A - relocate 800 West under I-15 to connect to Wildcat Way, independent of the 2600 South interchange which would be converted back to a diamond. Also remove NSL Center Street exit and create a brand-new road connecting I-215, I-15, and US 89, which would also replace the Beck Street basketweaves
Option B - same, but convert 2600 South into a SPUI

Salt Lake:
Option A - replace the 2300 North parclo with a new diamond interchange at 2100 North, which would cross the train tracks and provide access to US 89. The 1000 North and 600 North interchanges would be converted to standard diamonds and combined with a Texas-type frontage road between them
Option B - essentially combines the new 2100 North diamond and existing 1000 North exits from option A into a single diamond interchange that would both connect directly east to Beck Street and also allow a connection south to Rose Park. Existing 1000 North exit would be closed. No changes to current SPUI at 600 North.




I'm sure plenty of refinement and elimination will occur over the next few years, but this is what we have now. I'm excited to see what comes of this. As someone who used to live in this area, I really like the 215-15-89 access road. Far too often have I wished I could get to I-215 from that part of North Salt Lake and vice versa.  I also would love to see that Glovers SPUI as it is currently a bit of a pain in the ass to get to south Farmington/north Centerville especially west of the interstate.

Also of note is that all of the Bountiful options that close the southbound 500 West exit would require a reroute of US 89.


Plutonic Panda

Wait, there wouldn't be any access to the express lanes at all except from where they begin and end? That doesn't sound right.

The right thing to do would be to add a new GP lane and a tolled lane so it would be 5 GP lanes and 2 toll lanes each way. That with auxiliary lane improvements would future proof this corridor for decades to come. With passenger rail and local road upgrades you wouldn't need to touch this road for at least 50 years if they did that.

Bruce

The Salt Lake Tribune has a new article with the updated cost estimate: $3.7 billion. Seems really steep and the EIS open house website seems to be super dismissive of any transit improvements on the corridor, so what gives?

The Ghostbuster

If there needs to be transit improvements to the corridor, I would suggest adding one or more bus rapid transit lines. Two locations that might work would be along the Interstate 15 express lanes, or along the US 89 corridor. I would oppose adding more light rail lines due to expense, its slow speeds, and its inflexible routes that are almost impossible to reroute once the rails and wires are installed.

US 89

#4
That number is the "high-level cost estimate". Inflation is a killer. Plus any sort of large public works project in the US costs inordinately more than it should thanks to endless red tape. They're probably budgeting for inevitable lawsuits that Salt Lake City leaders seem to be egging on west-siders to bring, despite the fact that there are zero residential relocations planned in SLC.

The expansion would be nice, but a lot of the proposed improvements beyond the extra lane would be amazing. There is a notable lack of connectivity between many of the freeways and arterials in northern Salt Lake City and southern Davis County and this project includes several elements that would do wonders for that.

As far as transit...south Davis County is a very decentralized metropolitan region - far more so than Salt Lake. It's best thought of as one spread out suburban 100k population city. There is very little in the way of high density anything other than a few larger strip mall areas (Station Park in Farmington, the complex with Target/Kohl's/Home Depot in Centerville, and the complex with Costco and whatever Shopko and Barnes&Noble became are the bigger players). That simply doesn't lend itself to transit. Regular bus services in the area have actually had some cuts recently due to low and decreasing ridership. FrontRunner exists but has stops only at Farmington and Woods Cross, which are not useful for the vast majority of the area's population. That rail line has the disadvantage of being west of I-15 and US 89 - if you live east of those highways, as most of the area's population does, getting across them can be quite inconvenient. There are plans in the works to double track it where that hasn't been done already, but that's not going to get more asses in train seats between Centerville and North Salt Lake. Downtown Salt Lake City simply isn't dense enough for there to be much political will for any sort of commuter transit from downtown Salt Lake up into south Davis, the way you see with something like Atlanta and their MARTA line to North Springs. Light rail and BRT have both been proposed for south Davis multiple times in the past, potentially following the US 89 or Main Street corridors, and have never gotten anywhere.

I grew up in North Salt Lake and Bountiful. I would have loved to be able to take a train or some sort of BRT to Salt Lake, but that simply is not going to happen without a major shift in local politics and demographics in south Davis County, which is not likely to happen anytime soon. North Salt Lake is growing and diversifying but I just can't see a place like Bountiful being on board.

Rothman

Quote from: US 89 on October 02, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
That number is the "high-level cost estimate". Inflation is a killer. Plus any sort of large public works project in the US costs inordinately more than it should thanks to endless red tape. They're probably budgeting for inevitable lawsuits that Salt Lake City leaders seem to be egging on west-siders to bring, despite the fact that there are zero residential relocations planned in SLC.

The expansion would be nice, but a lot of the proposed improvements beyond the extra lane would be amazing. There is a notable lack of connectivity between many of the freeways and arterials in northern Salt Lake City and southern Davis County and this project includes several elements that would do wonders for that.

As far as transit...south Davis County is a very decentralized metropolitan region - far more so than Salt Lake. It's best thought of as one spread out suburban 100k population city. There is very little in the way of high density anything other than a few larger strip mall areas (Station Park in Farmington, the complex with Target/Kohl's/Home Depot in Centerville, and the complex with Costco and whatever Shopko and Barnes&Noble became are the bigger players). That simply doesn't lend itself to transit. Regular bus services in the area have actually had some cuts recently due to low and decreasing ridership. FrontRunner exists but has stops only at Farmington and Woods Cross, which are not useful for the vast majority of the area's population. That rail line has the disadvantage of being west of I-15 and US 89 - if you live east of those highways, as most of the area's population does, getting across them can be quite inconvenient. There are plans in the works to double track it where that hasn't been done already, but that's not going to get more asses in train seats between Centerville and North Salt Lake. Downtown Salt Lake City simply isn't dense enough for there to be much political will for any sort of commuter transit from downtown Salt Lake up into south Davis, the way you see with something like Atlanta and their MARTA line to North Springs. Light rail and BRT have both been proposed for south Davis multiple times in the past, potentially following the US 89 or Main Street corridors, and have never gotten anywhere.

I grew up in North Salt Lake and Bountiful. I would have loved to be able to take a train or some sort of BRT to Salt Lake, but that simply is not going to happen without a major shift in local politics and demographics in south Davis County, which is not likely to happen anytime soon. North Salt Lake is growing and diversifying but I just can't see a place like Bountiful being on board.
Weird.  People love TRAX where it serves.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Plutonic Panda

Since we're on the subject of rail and I know this is a bit off subject but don't see the need to create a thread for it nor could find one. Just thought I'd share an interesting bit of news regarding a revival of an old freight line around 11 miles long with an extension to reach a new business park to provide freight rail access:

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/federal-regulators-issue-draft-environmental-report-for-proposed-utah-rail-spur/

US 89

Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 08:41:02 PM
Weird.  People love TRAX where it serves.

Because where it serves already doesn't have a complex for keeping away from the "big city" the way that places like south Davis do. Plus with traffic patterns today, getting from Davis County to SLC is generally not horrible at most times (at least with the current state of Wasatch Front growth), compared with typical traffic in the southern half of the SL Valley.

Another issue with transit like that is cost. Plans have been brought up numerous times to extend the Blue Line down from Draper to Lehi. This should be comparatively easy - UTA already owns the right of way, which is the old UP mainline that was abandoned when UP merged with D&RGW and moved all their operations over to that line. Multiple grade separations already exist. Yet even that extension would cost upwards of $1 billion. A TRAX extension north to Davis County would run well into the billions of dollars; it'd be about the same length as a Lehi extension, but there is no right-of-way and they'd almost certainly have to do all kinds of additional work to reconfigure whatever road you want to run it down in addition to any property acquisitions.




Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 03, 2023, 08:30:25 PM
Since we're on the subject of rail and I know this is a bit off subject but don't see the need to create a thread for it nor could find one. Just thought I'd share an interesting bit of news regarding a revival of an old freight line around 11 miles long with an extension to reach a new business park to provide freight rail access:

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/federal-regulators-issue-draft-environmental-report-for-proposed-utah-rail-spur/

Could always just put it in the catch-all Utah thread.

US 89

The Draft EIS has been released:

Summary pdf
Overview slides
Interactive map of proposed improvements with comparison to current conditions

They're going with a 5 general purpose + 1 HOT lane as their preferred alternative. Other, more specific road-related upgrades include

- Reconfigure Farmington 200 West/Lagoon Dr interchange to add in some of the missing movements
- Wider bridges with sidewalks and bike lanes at Glovers Lane and State St in Farmington
- SPUI at Parrish Lane, with a northbound underpass under Parrish to the frontage road (similar to 106th South in Salt Lake City)
- Convert 500 West exit in Bountiful to a right exit
- Braid ramps for the 400 North and 500 South exits in Bountiful to reduce weaving
- Diamond configuration at 500 South
- New underpass from Wildcat Way to 800 West just north of 26th South interchange
- SPUI at 26th South
- Remove Center Street exit
- Replace Beck Street interchanges with a SPUI in North Salt Lake that also allows for full movements to I-215
- Remove 2300 North interchange
- New diamond interchange at 2100 North, which will connect eastward across the train tracks to Beck Street
- Reconfigure 1000 North interchange to complete missing movements
- Convert 600 North interchange to a diamond

UDOT knows this is going to be controversial. I think they did a really good job addressing concerns in the FAQ segment. Hopefully this doesn't get bogged down in years' worth of lawsuits - as I've stated previously, the connectivity upgrades should be an even bigger priority than the added lanes. Mostly I really want that new SPUI, which will allow far easier access from eastern North Salt Lake to I-15 northbound and I-215.

Bobby5280

These single toll lanes really seem popular with traffic engineers. I don't know why, since all it takes is one slow poke in the toll "express" lane to 100% de-value the entire reason for the lane to exist.

IMHO, if a super highway expansion project can have no more than 2 total HOT lanes I think it's much better to combine them into a reversible 2-lane roadway. Motorists can pass the slow pokes in that configuration. They can't pass slow pokes if they're boxed into a single lane.

triplemultiplex

Won't matter if the other two lanes are going even slower.
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