Poor Sign Placement

[tolbs17]

Looks like some engineer was not thinking straight...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7804346,-78.5622215,3a,39.8y,211.52h,95.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sy4mQq1oyHAf7YLlDnRC_Qg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i16384!8i8192

[JoePCool14]

Looks like some engineer was not thinking straight...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7804346,-78.5622215,3a,39.8y,211.52h,95.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sy4mQq1oyHAf7YLlDnRC_Qg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i16384!8i8192

So they bothered to change the sign to be standard case, and move it to further from the intersection, but couldn't be bothered to find an appropriate place for it where it could actually be seen.

[ran4sh]

I have to say, this is a very poor sign placement...

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9502879,-80.9719383,3a,69.3y,70.65h,91.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZMCI2NwsTLQ526f7MvVVDg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Reminds me of northbound I-5 at CA 99
https://goo.gl/maps/qrkKzxAiUxQWD2AY9

The difference is that the I-5/Route 99 signage is the actual main signage for that exit while the I-77 example is supplementary and the actual sign is standard signage at the ramp.

[Big John]

Looks like some engineer was not thinking straight...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7804346,-78.5622215,3a,39.8y,211.52h,95.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sy4mQq1oyHAf7YLlDnRC_Qg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i16384!8i8192

So they bothered to change the sign to be standard case, and move it to further from the intersection, but couldn't be bothered to find an appropriate place for it where it could actually be seen.

The contractor could have cut some brush in front of the sign since it is on highway ROW.

[jeffandnicole]

Looks like some engineer was not thinking straight...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7804346,-78.5622215,3a,39.8y,211.52h,95.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sy4mQq1oyHAf7YLlDnRC_Qg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i16384!8i8192

So they bothered to change the sign to be standard case, and move it to further from the intersection, but couldn't be bothered to find an appropriate place for it where it could actually be seen.

The contractor could have cut some brush in front of the sign since it is on highway ROW.

But only if that was part of the contract. They are very specific, and what may appear to be common sense could be a serious contractual issue.

[tolbs17]

Looks like some engineer was not thinking straight...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7804346,-78.5622215,3a,39.8y,211.52h,95.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sy4mQq1oyHAf7YLlDnRC_Qg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i16384!8i8192

So they bothered to change the sign to be standard case, and move it to further from the intersection, but couldn't be bothered to find an appropriate place for it where it could actually be seen.

The contractor could have cut some brush in front of the sign since it is on highway ROW.

Going back in the earlier street view, the old sign was further up. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7801863,-78.5621785,3a,15y,171.79h,91.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_9ucN4XN8XopwyXG5IAHCg!2e0!5s20160501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

[mrsman]

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5147057,-115.4319395,3a,15y,187.95h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXJAMjZbDHicpciC3gw4LtA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is on I-15 southbound a few miles into CA, just south of the NV border.  CA has agricultural inspection sit (AIS) at every major border crossing with other states.  Basically, they inspect fruits and vegetables that you may carry to be sure that they are pest free. 

[More details on that here:  https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pe/ExteriorExclusion/borders.html  ]

Anyway, this AIS was recently constucted a few years ago at this location.  [The old one was about 90 miles further into CA in Yermo, very close to Barstow.]  When building this, they basically built a brand new section of I-15 to the right of the pre-existing lanes.  As a result, for about 2 miles around the AIS, the pre-existing lanes exist as ghost lanes.

Well, there is a mileage sign that is left facing the ghost lanes that you can see in the first link.  Poor placement with respect to the current travel lanes, but quite an interesting relic.

[ErmineNotyours]

And a little further north: a backwards advisory speed limit.

[Scott5114]

This thread is a year old but this is too good not to share. From u/Loex_ on r/oklahoma.

[CometTheMountainLion]

And a little further north: a backwards advisory speed limit.

40 MPH might be intended to buy you time to dodge the oncoming traffic rotfflmmfao

[hotdogPi]

I didn't get photos, but Combination St. in Methuen MA is a dead end but has a "reduced speed ahead" sign in both directions including out of the dead end, while one of the roads leading south from (and visible on) MA 113 in West Newbury MA has a 35 MPH sign and a "slow children at play" sign on the same post.

This "trucks please seek alternate route" sign well past the decision point.

[kphoger]

I didn't get photos, but Combination St. in Methuen MA is a dead end but has a "reduced speed ahead" sign in both directions including out of the dead end

Judging by GSV, it looks like there isn't even a speed limit drop at all–not even heading into the dead end.

[webny99]

This NY 286 shield placement gets a groan from me, a small annoyance resulting from an otherwise successful recent project to add turn lanes here. (Ironically, it looks fine in the above link because the Street View car is traveling northbound. But for southbound traffic, for whom the sign is intended for, it's blocked by the telephone pole until the very last second.)

[7/8]

This one bothers me. There's a tree that blocks the sign until you're very close, and the text is pretty small too. It's also located right at the split, so it's a bit late to change lanes by the time you can even see it.

[hotdogPi]

There's an orange construction sign about here that says "SWEEPING NEXT 5 MILES". The road splits fairly quickly, and neither fork allows you to go five miles straight. (Canal St. in Lawrence just east of Amesbury St. is one-way wrong way.)

[CovalenceSTU]

Hobson City, AL also had something similar where they had bagged-up stop signs posted around the one signal in the town. When they couldn't pay the power bill for the signal (and as such, the signal was shut off), the town would unbag the stop signs until they could get the money to pay the bill.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6203682,-85.8371459,3a,60y,3.71h,89.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw-sZfeDJC6zvLzFJAjU5kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
IIRC, the town has since removed the signal so it's now a 24/7 four-way stop.

Jesus, that's awful. Didn't realize some towns were that poor. Judging by the Street View images, that signal probably wasn't necessary. Though it was cool!

The 2008 imagery seems to show the signal in operation with the stop signs unbagged. Huh? https://goo.gl/43cg1d

Oddly enough, 2022 GSV now shows the signals were replaced (and in operation), but one stop sign is missing and the rest only have bags on the 4-WAY plaque.
For bonus oddity points: there's a signalized railroad crossing down the street with "2-WAY" stop signs.

[jakeroot]

Hobson City, AL also had something similar where they had bagged-up stop signs posted around the one signal in the town. When they couldn't pay the power bill for the signal (and as such, the signal was shut off), the town would unbag the stop signs until they could get the money to pay the bill.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6203682,-85.8371459,3a,60y,3.71h,89.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw-sZfeDJC6zvLzFJAjU5kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
IIRC, the town has since removed the signal so it's now a 24/7 four-way stop.

Jesus, that's awful. Didn't realize some towns were that poor. Judging by the Street View images, that signal probably wasn't necessary. Though it was cool!

The 2008 imagery seems to show the signal in operation with the stop signs unbagged. Huh? https://goo.gl/43cg1d

Oddly enough, 2022 GSV now shows the signals were replaced (and in operation), but one stop sign is missing and the rest only have bags on the 4-WAY plaque.
For bonus oddity points: there's a signalized railroad crossing down the street with "2-WAY" stop signs.

The signals seem to have been taken from another location, unless this area is known to be tough on traffic signals lol, they seem pretty worn.

[wanderer2575]

A new one in downtown Farmington, MI.  Brand new streetscape, and they forgot to leave some room to post the "pedestrian crossing" sign where it can be seen.  This will get worse as those new trees start filling out.

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52844147190
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52845437487
Two in Lakeland, FL on SR 572 WB.

[wanderer2575]

When the boilerplate specs say to put the "Ramp Closed" sign X distance before the ramp, no matter what:

[Mergingtraffic]

How bout poor sign REplacement.

The extruded aluminum warning sign is being replaced by a flimsy, and already warped, sheet metal sign.  Meriden, CT

[JoePCool14]

How bout poor sign REplacement.

The extruded aluminum warning sign is being replaced by a flimsy, and already warped, sheet metal sign.  Meriden, CT

An all too common cost-cutting trend. Why are they even replacing the old one anyways? Just for updated retroreflectivity?

[jakeroot]

The old sign certainly seems to be a lot sturdier.

I think an incremental-panel (sheet metal) signage is usually just as sturdy as extruded-panel signage, though only when mounted properly. WSDOT uses incremental panel signage (like NYSDOT), and I don't recall major highway signage being warped on a normal basis. The exception being signage held up by posts normally used to mount a single sign, like a stop sign. As we can see the image above, the tiny posts are not adequate for holding up larger sign panels.

IMO, a spec-for-spec incremental-panel replacement of the original sign, using the original (much larger) posts, with proper rear bracing, would hold up as well as the original sign.

This all said, I'm speaking from a high-school physics perspective. Those who understand sign mounting may not agree with my assessment.

[wanderer2575]

Nbd Naperville Road at I-88 in Naperville, IL:  The exit sign is on the left side of the road, and it's a divided highway to boot.

GSV:  https://goo.gl/maps/ezxPTCGhmusE94238

[LilianaUwU]

Nbd Naperville Road at I-88 in Naperville, IL:  The exit sign is on the left side of the road, and it's a divided highway to boot.

GSV:  https://goo.gl/maps/ezxPTCGhmusE94238

Looks like the ISTHA had some money to burn, considering there's a BGS where it actually belongs too.