New Jersey

[storm2k]

Looks like construction on the 287/78/202-206 improvements is going into high gear, as work kicks off tonight to move traffic lanes on both 287 and 202-206 to establish a work zone for the forthcoming interchange improvements.

[noelbotevera]

Here's some weird travels on a weird road.

Cool right?

[Alps]

Here's some weird travels on a weird road.

Cool right?

There's only one Indian Cabin Road in Sweetwater, and it's fully paved and run by Google Street View. Must have been paved since 2004 (very possible, given the article date).

[bzakharin]

Here's some weird travels on a weird road.

Cool right?

There's only one Indian Cabin Road in Sweetwater, and it's fully paved and run by Google Street View. Must have been paved since 2004 (very possible, given the article date).

Based on the article, they didn't start out in Sweetwater. According to Google Maps, the road starts out here, unpaved as of 2009:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5331374,-74.56339,3a,75y,267.55h,74.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5VeOWWJyvbttwywpjKGpzA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D5VeOWWJyvbttwywpjKGpzA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D131.70349%26pitch%3D0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1
There seems to be a discontinuity before it turns up paved here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5669845,-74.6393298,3a,75y,324.74h,71.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-bizq7bmtjVkIim-s6zDzw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1

[Mr. Matté]

Some random photos from Route 18's extension onto Don Imus's favorite road, Hoes Lane and beyond:
http://imgur.com/a/bqylg

[storm2k]

Some random photos from Route 18's extension onto Don Imus's favorite road, Hoes Lane and beyond:
http://imgur.com/a/bqylg

Not 100% sure why they extended the 18 signage onto Possumtown Rd. They could have just done a couple of To NJ 18 South signs off the ramp from 287 and been fine and just had Centennial be the only beginning/end point of the signed highway.

Also, not evident from this is how much improved the roadway was over when Piscataway had maintenance responsibility. Mostly because they didn't do much to maintain it. The roadways beyond NJDOT's work are a real drop off from this nice new pavement and other work.

[roadman65]

Some random photos from Route 18's extension onto Don Imus's favorite road, Hoes Lane and beyond:
http://imgur.com/a/bqylg

Not 100% sure why they extended the 18 signage onto Possumtown Rd. They could have just done a couple of To NJ 18 South signs off the ramp from 287 and been fine and just had Centennial be the only beginning/end point of the signed highway.

Also, not evident from this is how much improved the roadway was over when Piscataway had maintenance responsibility. Mostly because they didn't do much to maintain it. The roadways beyond NJDOT's work are a real drop off from this nice new pavement and other work.

NY does that same thing in Jefferson County near Watertown Center.  NY 232 is signed with and END sign along a frontage road that connects the short NY route with I-81 N Bound.  Then the other, if it is signed still, at the SB ramp with I-81 where the state route officially ends.

[Alps]

Here's some weird travels on a weird road.

Cool right?

There's only one Indian Cabin Road in Sweetwater, and it's fully paved and run by Google Street View. Must have been paved since 2004 (very possible, given the article date).

Based on the article, they didn't start out in Sweetwater. According to Google Maps, the road starts out here, unpaved as of 2009:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5331374,-74.56339,3a,75y,267.55h,74.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5VeOWWJyvbttwywpjKGpzA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D5VeOWWJyvbttwywpjKGpzA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D131.70349%26pitch%3D0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1
There seems to be a discontinuity before it turns up paved here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5669845,-74.6393298,3a,75y,324.74h,71.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-bizq7bmtjVkIim-s6zDzw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1

You're saying Weird NJ exaggerated and took poetic license?!?!!!!!! Never.

[NJRoadfan]

evident from this is how much improved the roadway was over when Piscataway had maintenance responsibility. Mostly because they didn't do much to maintain it. The roadways beyond NJDOT's work are a real drop off from this nice new pavement and other work.

The rest of Centennial Ave. appears to be getting a fresh pave. I guess that dropoff in condition was enough for them to do something about it!

[bzakharin]

You're saying Weird NJ exaggerated and took poetic license?!?!!!!!! Never.

That's not what I'm saying (although I'm sure they did). They got onto Indian Cabin Road at its start, where it is indeed unpaved, planning to drive it all the way *to* Sweetwater. They apparently had a map that showed Indian Cabin Road going all the way to Sweetwater. Although Google shows a discontinuity between New York Avenue and Darmstadt Avenue, a close look at Google's aerial view does show some sort of a road that links the two segments:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5632336,-74.6208449,319m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1

[storm2k]

evident from this is how much improved the roadway was over when Piscataway had maintenance responsibility. Mostly because they didn't do much to maintain it. The roadways beyond NJDOT's work are a real drop off from this nice new pavement and other work.

The rest of Centennial Ave. appears to be getting a fresh pave. I guess that dropoff in condition was enough for them to do something about it!

Hang on, I need to pick my jaw up off the floor. I don't remember them doing much other than some basic pothole repair on any part of Centennial since I started at RU back in '99.

[NJRoadfan]

Eastbound is paved from South Randolphville to at least South Washington Ave. Westbound was grinded last weekend. I don't know why Centennial Ave. (and Hadley) isn't a county road at this point, its obvious that Piscataway doesn't have the resources to maintain it. They also need to learn how to time traffic lights, that road is horrible. Hoes Ln. used to be just as bad, now traffic flows very smoothly.

[jeffandnicole]

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/10/how_to_navigate_the_confusing_new_traffic_signal_popping_up_across_nj.html#incart_river_home_pop

Click on the link to see what the confusing new traffic signal is...

[NE2]

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/10/how_to_navigate_the_confusing_new_traffic_signal_popping_up_across_nj.html#incart_river_home_pop

Click on the link to see what the confusing new traffic signal is...

It's a pedestrian beacon. Fuck clickbait.

[cl94]

Damn HAWK signals. NYSDOT Region 5 installed one on NY 324 in Tonawanda. You can be stuck at that thing for 5 minutes at a time.

[NE2]

Damn HAWK signals. NYSDOT Region 5 installed one on NY 324 in Tonawanda. You can be stuck at that thing for 5 minutes at a time.

Why? Are there that many pedestrians? Or do drivers not go after pedestrians are done crossing?

[cl94]

Damn HAWK signals. NYSDOT Region 5 installed one on NY 324 in Tonawanda. You can be stuck at that thing for 5 minutes at a time.

Why? Are there that many pedestrians? Or do drivers not go after pedestrians are done crossing?

That many pedestrians. It's an 8 lane road, so the crossing time is long

[NE2]

Damn HAWK signals. NYSDOT Region 5 installed one on NY 324 in Tonawanda. You can be stuck at that thing for 5 minutes at a time.

Why? Are there that many pedestrians? Or do drivers not go after pedestrians are done crossing?

That many pedestrians. It's an 8 lane road, so the crossing time is long

So it would be a problem even without the signal if drivers obeyed the law and let them cross.

[cl94]

Damn HAWK signals. NYSDOT Region 5 installed one on NY 324 in Tonawanda. You can be stuck at that thing for 5 minutes at a time.

Why? Are there that many pedestrians? Or do drivers not go after pedestrians are done crossing?

That many pedestrians. It's an 8 lane road, so the crossing time is long

So it would be a problem even without the signal if drivers obeyed the law and let them cross.

Yes. They put in a bike path and, instead of building a bridge or having people walk a block to the signalized intersection, they put in a HAWK signal that resets whenever someone pushes the button. Get enough people on there and it'll stop traffic for a while.

[jeffandnicole]

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/10/how_to_navigate_the_confusing_new_traffic_signal_popping_up_across_nj.html#incart_river_home_pop

Click on the link to see what the confusing new traffic signal is...

It's a pedestrian beacon. Fuck clickbait.

Comments 1 - 216 are going to shock you.

[Mr. Matté]

As I stated in the corresponding reddit thread, the light has been there since 2012, why is it new and confusing all of a sudden today?

[storm2k]

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/10/how_to_navigate_the_confusing_new_traffic_signal_popping_up_across_nj.html#incart_river_home_pop

Click on the link to see what the confusing new traffic signal is...

How many of these are out there now? I really only know of 3: The one on 27 by Metropark, the one on Port Reading Ave by St. Anthony of Padua church in Port Reading, and on Central Ave in Westfield.

[jeffandnicole]

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/10/how_to_navigate_the_confusing_new_traffic_signal_popping_up_across_nj.html#incart_river_home_pop

Click on the link to see what the confusing new traffic signal is...

How many of these are out there now? I really only know of 3: The one on 27 by Metropark, the one on Port Reading Ave by St. Anthony of Padua church in Port Reading, and on Central Ave in Westfield.

I believe there's one in the Hamilton, NJ area on 130.

[Mr. Matté]

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/10/how_to_navigate_the_confusing_new_traffic_signal_popping_up_across_nj.html#incart_river_home_pop

Click on the link to see what the confusing new traffic signal is...

How many of these are out there now? I really only know of 3: The one on 27 by Metropark, the one on Port Reading Ave by St. Anthony of Padua church in Port Reading, and on Central Ave in Westfield.

I believe there's one in the Hamilton, NJ area on 130.

Are you referring to this one? It's in use as an emergency vehicle signal for a fire department. Others include Ocean City, Seaside Heights, and New Brunswick.

Thinking about the drivers' opinions, the most confusion seems to come from the fact that the two lights alternating means you can go after stopping though the intersection, the antithesis of other more commons uses of red alternating lights, railroad crossings and school buses. It's why on the two-light signals where a red light is used to denote a stop sign, alternating lights are technically banned (Burlington County never got this memo, this for example).

Perhaps when the HAWK signals were originally designed, they should have just kept one red light and the signals would still mean the same thing as a normal flashing/steady light: Flashing yellow- blow through the intersection, steady yellow- blow through the intersection, steady red- you can't blow through the intersection, flashing red- Idaho stop.

[jeffandnicole]

Glancing around the NJDOT project website, I noticed the bids for Contract 4 of the NJ 72 bridge replacement came in.  Interestingly, all 6 bids came in well below projection, with the lowest bid an astounding 40% below the estimated pricetag of $106 million.

It typically takes a month or so to see the winning bid accepted.  It'll be wait and see to make sure that there were no errors in the bidding documents that would've accounted for such a wide margin of difference.