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Alps

Quote from: famartin on January 15, 2021, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Alps on January 15, 2021, 02:11:36 PM
NJ 31 before Pennington Circle is another.

I want to say that one is pretty new (within the last 10 years, maybe the last 5) but not sure.
More than 5, maybe 10.


TheGrassGuy

Quote from: NJRoadfan on January 15, 2021, 12:34:03 PM
NJ-28 still has a metering light before the Flemington Circle. https://goo.gl/maps/KXbsaAydoN7GbLiC9

NJ-52 used to have one on the old causeway approaching the Somer's Point circle as well.

Doesn't the Somerville Circle also have one or two of these?
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

famartin

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 16, 2021, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: NJRoadfan on January 15, 2021, 12:34:03 PM
NJ-28 still has a metering light before the Flemington Circle. https://goo.gl/maps/KXbsaAydoN7GbLiC9

NJ-52 used to have one on the old causeway approaching the Somer's Point circle as well.

Doesn't the Somerville Circle also have one or two of these?

Hint: Look at the link, and my reply to his post ;)

TheGrassGuy

If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

artmalk

The Flemington  circle is the worst.

mvak36

Quote from: artmalk on January 18, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
The Flemington  circle is the worst.

I drove through that this past summer when I was visiting family in NJ. The first time I drove through that I was pretty tentative going through it. The second time was a lot smoother. I don't know if there are plans to replace it or not. It looks pretty built up all the way to the circle.
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artmalk

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If you are coming from North Jersey  and continuing on 202 South to enjoy a summer weekend day in the beautiful twin towns of New Hope and Lambertville, it is almost impossible to navigate the circle.  Going north on 202 for the return trip, you don't have to go around the circle at all.

Alps

Quote from: artmalk on January 18, 2021, 01:54:07 PM
If you are coming from North Jersey  and continuing on 202 South to enjoy a summer weekend day in the beautiful twin towns of New Hope and Lambertville, it is almost impossible  to navigate the circle.  Going north on 202 for the return trip, you don't have to go around the circle at all.
I disagree. 202 SB has priority through the whole circle and I haven't noticed any issues. 31 NB traffic has the worst go of it in the new configuration. Still wish we could have seen an interchange, but they're not gonna revisit this one they just rebuilt.

TheGrassGuy

Quote from: Alps on January 18, 2021, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: artmalk on January 18, 2021, 01:54:07 PM
If you are coming from North Jersey  and continuing on 202 South to enjoy a summer weekend day in the beautiful twin towns of New Hope and Lambertville, it is almost impossible  to navigate the circle.  Going north on 202 for the return trip, you don't have to go around the circle at all.
I disagree. 202 SB has priority through the whole circle and I haven't noticed any issues. 31 NB traffic has the worst go of it in the new configuration. Still wish we could have seen an interchange, but they're not gonna revisit this one they just rebuilt.

Has anyone here made any designs for such an interchange?
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

roadman65

Years ago a bypass for NJ 31 was proposed due to NIMBY response from NJDOT wanting to widen NJ 31 immediately north of the circle. However it would have not helped that it was proposed to go East and connect to a trumpet with US 202 between Flemington and Three Bridges.

Be nice if one were built west of Flemington for Route 31 as it would relieve some traffic there and make NJ 31 a four lane corridor from Ringoes to Clinton.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

storm2k

Quote from: artmalk on January 18, 2021, 01:54:07 PM
If you are coming from North Jersey  and continuing on 202 South to enjoy a summer weekend day in the beautiful twin towns of New Hope and Lambertville, it is almost impossible to navigate the circle.  Going north on 202 for the return trip, you don't have to go around the circle at all.

It's honestly not that bad even in the height of summer tourist season. I've spent 30 years going to and from New Hope during summers before they did any changes and after. You're making it sound like a gridlock nightmare that it isn't. The improvements to the circle helped. I don't know the full story on why NJDOT didn't look at some better interchange options (route 12 onto 31 and then put 31 into 202 with a T and a jug maybe) but it's what we ended up with (probably to minimize cost of property takings since the area is so built up, it's not like the Somerville Circle to the north where there was limited need for property taking since they could build the overpass over the circle itself for the most part).

roadman65

https://na4.visualvault.com/app/AASHTO/Default/documentviewer?DhID=2011378b-b8d5-ea11-a98a-ff9beffbfef8&hidemenu=true

application of US 206 around Stanhope in 1970 to remove it from  the I-80 junction in Roxbury to the new alignment from I-80 north into Byram Township.

Interesting site to check out.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

storm2k

Quote from: roadman65 on January 26, 2021, 05:18:16 PM
https://na4.visualvault.com/app/AASHTO/Default/documentviewer?DhID=2011378b-b8d5-ea11-a98a-ff9beffbfef8&hidemenu=true

application of US 206 around Stanhope in 1970 to remove it from  the I-80 junction in Roxbury to the new alignment from I-80 north into Byram Township.

Interesting site to check out.

Leads to a 404 error.

famartin

WandaVision had two decent simulated NJ road scenes, though the exit sign font was off (they got the backplate on the fake route 2 right, though)
(not sure you'll all be able to see this)
https://www.facebook.com/ray.martin/posts/10158857415936605

roadman65

Was I-287 supposed to be another Route in Parssippany-Troy Hills between Route 10 and Route 46? I see between those two points the freeway existed in 1957 and are seen on a Historic Aerials.

It shows an at grade alignment with US 46 at its north end where Smith Road currently intersects and old maps even confirm it. Smith Road was not even there in 1957.  Plus NJ 10s end did have freeway stubs as today's WB Route 10 to I-287 ramp and SB I-287 to Rte. 10 WB were the only ramps then ending there but left turns were allowed there for full access.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Alps

Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2021, 10:55:02 AM
Was I-287 supposed to be another Route in Parssippany-Troy Hills between Route 10 and Route 46? I see between those two points the freeway existed in 1957 and are seen on a Historic Aerials.

It shows an at grade alignment with US 46 at its north end where Smith Road currently intersects and old maps even confirm it. Smith Road was not even there in 1957.  Plus NJ 10s end did have freeway stubs as today's WB Route 10 to I-287 ramp and SB I-287 to Rte. 10 WB were the only ramps then ending there but left turns were allowed there for full access.
It was constructed as part of US 202.

NJRoadfan

Quote from: famartin on January 30, 2021, 07:27:28 AM
WandaVision had two decent simulated NJ road scenes, though the exit sign font was off (they got the backplate on the fake route 2 right, though)
(not sure you'll all be able to see this)
https://www.facebook.com/ray.martin/posts/10158857415936605

The actual roadways are very southern looking (pines!). IMDB says the show is filmed in the Atlanta area.

storm2k

Quote from: NJRoadfan on January 30, 2021, 10:38:10 PM
Quote from: famartin on January 30, 2021, 07:27:28 AM
WandaVision had two decent simulated NJ road scenes, though the exit sign font was off (they got the backplate on the fake route 2 right, though)
(not sure you'll all be able to see this)
https://www.facebook.com/ray.martin/posts/10158857415936605

The actual roadways are very southern looking (pines!). IMDB says the show is filmed in the Atlanta area.

Looked passable enough for somewhere in the far southern end of NJ, like at the southern stretch of 295 maybe. You are correct, like a great number of media properties, they film in Georgia because Georgia has some extremely advantageous tax policies for TV and film productions.

storm2k

Is the Tremley Point Connector between Carteret and Linden still in the works? I believe it is going to be built by the Turnpike Authority but it had shown up in NJDOT's STIPs for several years but is no longer in the 2020-29 STIP and I haven't been able to find a finalized capital plan on the Turnpike Authority's website.

Alps

Quote from: storm2k on January 31, 2021, 11:59:12 AM
Is the Tremley Point Connector between Carteret and Linden still in the works? I believe it is going to be built by the Turnpike Authority but it had shown up in NJDOT's STIPs for several years but is no longer in the 2020-29 STIP and I haven't been able to find a finalized capital plan on the Turnpike Authority's website.
As of the end of 2019: https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/transportation/2019/12/17/tremley-point-connector-road-project-linking-middlesex-union-set/2675304001/

storm2k

This gantry at the eastern end of Rt 22 at the 21/1-9 interchange is getting replaced. The other gantries a bit further up were replaced when they built the new 21 viaduct in the early aughts (you can see the stub left from the original ramp to the old McCarter Highway viaduct), but this one was never replaced. It only got new signs at some point. One of the dwindling number of triangular trusses that are left in NJ, and soon to be gone. Did not see new signs out there waiting with the gantry on the side of the road, so I would presume they will move these signs onto the new structure, since they're still relatively new.

NJRoadfan

The NJ-21 viaduct project was finished mid-2003, so those "new" signs are approaching 20 years old at this point.

TheGrassGuy

If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

dgolub

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 05, 2021, 09:36:45 PM
CR-513 Truck: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6707694,-74.8946552,3a,44.1y,192.55h,78.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skwL0zWzrfOtb6vk7R0P7MA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I'm guessing that it's a sign goof.  The truck route points down some little local street that appears less suited for trucks than the main route.

famartin

Quote from: dgolub on February 06, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 05, 2021, 09:36:45 PM
CR-513 Truck: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6707694,-74.8946552,3a,44.1y,192.55h,78.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skwL0zWzrfOtb6vk7R0P7MA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I'm guessing that it's a sign goof.  The truck route points down some little local street that appears less suited for trucks than the main route.

It's not. They want trucks to avoid Main Street, and I think the low railroad overpass as well.



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