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What ever happened to the counterculture?

Started by bandit957, February 09, 2025, 11:40:55 AM

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Key West had a Darth Vader, Spider-Man and Chewbacca all running around on Duval Street.  I recall seeing Spider-Man the most given the guy traveled around ok 1970s style roller skates.


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I've seen Spider-Man with a boombox in Lawrence, but only once.
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Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2025, 05:07:35 PMI could name it, if you'd like.  Something counter-cultural, like Edna.
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But as I said, the counter-culture became the culture - fighting The Man is hard to do when you are The Man. So mainstream was Dame Edna (as she became) that she literally was asked to, at party for hundreds of millions of people, introduce the guest of honour, the most establishment of establishment figures, who'd been in the job for 50 years (Edna only had been at it for 40-something at that point)

Dame Edna even does the line about the 60s (if you remember them, you weren't there) before naming a bunch of people who were part of the counter-culture as performers celebrating the Queen at the Palace.

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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 06:31:13 PMI recall seeing Spider-Man the most given the guy traveled around ok 1970s style roller skates.

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Quote from: Scott5114 on February 11, 2025, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 06:31:13 PMI recall seeing Spider-Man the most given the guy traveled around ok 1970s style roller skates.



The buildings are too low for viable web slinging transportation.  That or Spider-Man is a menace!  I want that roller skating arachnid prosecuted!

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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 05:17:46 PMAbout my only other exposure was a MTV documentary an ex-girlfriend had showed me a decade ago.

Not the Kiwi Crossing music video for Last Train to Awesometown??

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Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2025, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 05:17:46 PMAbout my only other exposure was a MTV documentary an ex-girlfriend had showed me a decade ago.

Not the Kiwi Crossing music video for Last Train to Awesometown??

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No, it was an actual documentary.  I want to it was titled as "Plushies and Furries" something?  It went into great detail what the whole scene was about (I'm unclear if it was accurate).

kphoger

It's Greta.  Greta Thunberg is the counterculture.
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Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2025, 08:21:29 PMIt's Greta.  Greta Thunberg is the counterculture.

I've never understood what the deal with her was.  Something about an angry climate kid?  I didn't even know who she was until being on this forum.

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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2025, 08:21:29 PMIt's Greta.  Greta Thunberg is the counterculture.

I've never understood what the deal with her was.  Something about an angry climate kid?  I didn't even know who she was until being on this forum.

To be fair, she didn't really come around until about 2016 or so.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 08:05:48 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2025, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 05:17:46 PMAbout my only other exposure was a MTV documentary an ex-girlfriend had showed me a decade ago.

Not the Kiwi Crossing music video for Last Train to Awesometown??

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No, it was an actual documentary.  I want to it was titled as "Plushies and Furries" something?  It went into great detail what the whole scene was about (I'm unclear if it was accurate).

If it's a documentary you seek, I know there was this one that came-out a few years ago:
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Max Rockatansky

The documentary I'm thinking of would have been released probably in 2010.  I started dating the person I'm thinking of shortly after I got hit by a car on February 5th that year.  She found the documentary a couple months into the relationship and told me I had to see it.

dlsterner

What ever happened to the counterculture?

Well, we became the people our parents warned us about.

(Apologies to Jimmy Buffett for paraphrasing his lyric)

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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 11, 2025, 10:03:42 PMI've never understood what the deal with her was.  Something about an angry climate kid?
Yep. And because she was a child, she could get away with a lot more rudeness about it, and people couldn't be rude back as easily. Now she's 22, that's all gone and she's had a slight career change into being a generic hard-left activist who isn't meeting world leaders anymore to (on their invitation) scold them.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 11, 2025, 11:42:37 PMTo be fair, she didn't really come around until about 2016 or so.
Well she was only just a teenager in 2016. Her terrible parents weren't quite terrible enough to have her be a prop for their activism and throw her into the limelight when she was a younger child.

Though she was hardly the counter-culture - all the establishment (save Trump and a few others) fawned over her. But, I guess she does actually try to practice what she preaches about emissions, which makes her very counter-culture in the elite climate activist world!

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It feels to me that conservatism is the new counter culture, at least in America. There are a lot of young people (especially young men) overreacting to the overall leftward shift in politics in Western culture in the past 20-30 years. Now I'm conservative politically myself, but there are so many younger people that are trending too far in the rightward direction in rebellion of modern culture. Rebellion, as far as I'm concerned, is the way that counter culture has always worked.
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Quote from: CoreySamson on February 18, 2025, 01:44:54 PMIt feels to me that conservatism is the new counter culture, at least in America. There are a lot of young people (especially young men) overreacting to the overall leftward shift in politics in Western culture in the past 20-30 years. Now I'm conservative politically myself, but there are so many younger people that are trending too far in the rightward direction in rebellion of modern culture. Rebellion, as far as I'm concerned, is the way that counter culture has always worked.

I don't disagree with this, coming from someone with a disparate view.

bandit957

Maybe the counterculture is only pooing.
Might as well face it, pooing is cool

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Quote from: bandit957 on February 18, 2025, 02:00:15 PMMaybe the counterculture is only pooing.

Don't poo when society tells you it's cool.

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Quote from: CoreySamson on February 18, 2025, 01:44:54 PMIt feels to me that conservatism is the new counter culture, at least in America. There are a lot of young people (especially young men) overreacting to the overall leftward shift in politics in Western culture in the past 20-30 years. Now I'm conservative politically myself, but there are so many younger people that are trending too far in the rightward direction in rebellion of modern culture. Rebellion, as far as I'm concerned, is the way that counter culture has always worked.

I have tentatively come to the conclusion that the American political Right is no longer conservative, but has instead become radical.  In that sense, I agree with you that it has become countercultural.
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Quote from: bandit957 on February 18, 2025, 02:00:15 PMMaybe the counterculture is only pooing.

Bubbling is definitely countercultural.
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Quote from: CoreySamson on February 18, 2025, 01:44:54 PMIt feels to me that conservatism is the new counter culture, at least in America. There are a lot of young people (especially young men) overreacting to the overall leftward shift in politics in Western culture in the past 20-30 years. Now I'm conservative politically myself, but there are so many younger people that are trending too far in the rightward direction in rebellion of modern culture. Rebellion, as far as I'm concerned, is the way that counter culture has always worked.

This is a really good observation.

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Quote from: CoreySamson on February 18, 2025, 01:44:54 PMIt feels to me that conservatism is the new counter culture, at least in America. There are a lot of young people (especially young men) overreacting to the overall leftward shift in politics in Western culture in the past 20-30 years. Now I'm conservative politically myself, but there are so many younger people that are trending too far in the rightward direction in rebellion of modern culture. Rebellion, as far as I'm concerned, is the way that counter culture has always worked.
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Quote from: kphoger on February 18, 2025, 04:55:21 PMI have tentatively come to the conclusion that the American political Right is no longer conservative, but has instead become radical.

Wikipedia's definition of conservatism is that it "seeks to promote and preserve traditional institutions, customs, and values." Now, I've never identified as a conservative, so I wouldn't know if that definition's wrong or not. But it's hard to see how things like renaming a body of water that has had the same name for hundreds of years, or dismantling government institutions that have existed for 50 years, is compatible with that definition.
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