Changes to sports

[Flint1979]

One change I'd love to see in MLB is a new owner for the Chicago White Sox.

[Roadgeekteen]

Does everybody advocating for promotion/relegation in MLB understand how the minors work? Most teams, including all of AAA, are affiliated with major league clubs, with the players belonging to the major league clubs.

If you relegated Oakland and Washington after the 2022 season and promoted Durham and Reno, you'd have two MLB teams controlled by Tampa and Arizona. That can't work.

We've tried. He won't listen.

[Scott5114]

MLB promotion and relegation:
Six poor-performing teams (three from each league) are selected as challenger teams which can face relegation. At the end of regular season, the worst challenger team from each league play best-of-seven playout whose loser is relegated to AAA. The team is replaced by winner of playoff between IL and PCL champions.

How MLB promotion works: A guy in a suit gets a promotion and ends up with several million dollars he didn't have previously. Also, several products are promoted during the game.

[Poiponen13]

Does everybody advocating for promotion/relegation in MLB understand how the minors work? Most teams, including all of AAA, are affiliated with major league clubs, with the players belonging to the major league clubs.

If you relegated Oakland and Washington after the 2022 season and promoted Durham and Reno, you'd have two MLB teams controlled by Tampa and Arizona. That can't work.

Not all AAA teams would be affiliated. Some would be independent. The MLB team's farm teams would be designated with Roman Numeral and MLB team's name, like New York Yankees II.

[hotdogPi]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

Also a possible pun: Gen II. While it looks like it means Generation 2, "genii" is the plural of the historical meaning (but not the current meaning) of "genius", the Roman mythology meaning.

[Poiponen13]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

[mgk920]

Well, to make pro-rel work in Baseball, you would first have to sever all of the affiliations and other business connections between the Major League teams and the minor league teams.   

Mike

[Roadgeekteen]

We should have Aaroads promotion and relegation. If your posts are shitty you get relegated to Aaroads 2, a worse version of Aaroads.

[GaryV]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

[Poiponen13]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

You don't understand. There would also be independent teams in AAA. They could be promoted.

[GaryV]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

You don't understand. There would also be independent teams in AAA. They could be promoted.

No, I understand perfectly. There wouldn't be any independent AAA teams, because the current owners would never allow it.

[Poiponen13]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

You don't understand. There would also be independent teams in AAA. They could be promoted.

No, I understand perfectly. There wouldn't be any independent AAA teams, because the current owners would never allow it.

Then an independent second league would be formed. It would have promotion to and relegation from MLB.

[GaryV]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

You don't understand. There would also be independent teams in AAA. They could be promoted.

No, I understand perfectly. There wouldn't be any independent AAA teams, because the current owners would never allow it.

Then an independent second league would be formed. It would have promotion to and relegation from MLB.

Again, something the current owners would never allow.

[Poiponen13]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

You don't understand. There would also be independent teams in AAA. They could be promoted.

No, I understand perfectly. There wouldn't be any independent AAA teams, because the current owners would never allow it.

Then an independent second league would be formed. It would have promotion to and relegation from MLB.

Again, something the current owners would never allow.

Should allow.

[GaryV]

So the Yankees II could get promoted and play against the regular Yankees?

NO! Reserves would not be allowed to be promoted, like they are not allowed to promote in countries where reserves in different sports play in main system (e.g. Germany, Spain).

So then you're agreeing that none of the minor league teams can be promoted, because they're all affiliated with a MLB team.

You don't understand. There would also be independent teams in AAA. They could be promoted.

No, I understand perfectly. There wouldn't be any independent AAA teams, because the current owners would never allow it.

Then an independent second league would be formed. It would have promotion to and relegation from MLB.

Again, something the current owners would never allow.

Should allow.

Go ahead, try to convince them. I'll not be holding my breath.

[Scott5114]

Poiponen apparently doesn't know what a rich person is.

[KeithE4Phx]

One change I'd love to see in MLB is a new owner for the Chicago White Sox.

We've been wanting that for 40 years.  Reinsdorf should sell both the Sox and the Bulls.  And soon.

[Roadgeekteen]

Poiponen apparently doesn't know what a rich person is.

In the communist utopia of Souky, there are no rich people.

[Flint1979]

One change I'd love to see in MLB is a new owner for the Chicago White Sox.

We've been wanting that for 40 years.  Reinsdorf should sell both the Sox and the Bulls.  And soon.

I think just about the entire fan base for both teams is on board for him to sell. My theory is that if you don't want to invest in the product on the field then you shouldn't be owning a sports team.

[NWI_Irish96]

One I just thought of: with every level of basketball now having a shot clock, eliminate the 10-second and over-and-back rules. There's now a built-in disincentive to stall in the backcourt.

[Poiponen13]

Major water polo league, there should be a one. It would have promotion and relegation and 12 teams without conferences or divisions.

[hotdogPi]

Major water polo league, there should be a one. It would have promotion and relegation and 12 teams without conferences or divisions.

I agree that there should be a league, but if there are only 12 teams, they can all be at the same level.

[Poiponen13]

Major water polo league, there should be a one. It would have promotion and relegation and 12 teams without conferences or divisions.

I agree that there should be a league, but if there are only 12 teams, they can all be at the same level.

There would be various lower levels. A promotion could be possible to major league from there.

[Roadgeekteen]

Major water polo league, there should be a one. It would have promotion and relegation and 12 teams without conferences or divisions.

I agree that there should be a league, but if there are only 12 teams, they can all be at the same level.

There would be various lower levels. A promotion could be possible to major league from there.

For someone who created the socialist Republic of Souky, you are proposing a very capitalistic system of promotion and relegation.

[Poiponen13]

Major water polo league, there should be a one. It would have promotion and relegation and 12 teams without conferences or divisions.

I agree that there should be a league, but if there are only 12 teams, they can all be at the same level.

There would be various lower levels. A promotion could be possible to major league from there.

For someone who created the socialist Republic of Souky, you are proposing a very capitalistic system of promotion and relegation.

What? A normal promotion and relegation.