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Belichick is now the coach for UNC!

Started by snowc, December 10, 2024, 02:16:20 PM

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SectorZ

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 12, 2024, 11:36:42 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm

I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.


What do you mean by "college habits?" I think college coaches are really good at coaching college athletes - many have adapted quite well to the new landscape.

I just don't know if BB can teach NFL-like concepts to athletes who are less knowledgeable than NFL players. Furthermore, does he know how to motivate these athletes and keep them engaged even if they aren't playing.

And let's see what staff he buildings. If he simply brings back his NFL staff, I don't think it works at all. He needs to add people who understand college football better.

College habits as in coaching under the rules of the old landscape.


Flint1979

It really sounds like he's getting a job for his kid. He's 72 and his career didn't end that well in New England, he's never coached college football. I don't think this is a good idea for UNC.

Flint1979

Quote from: Henry on December 10, 2024, 10:44:30 PMBetween this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.
I'll just say that even if they win the World Series the Mets are one of the most stupidly run teams in sports. I hope he turns out to be a bust for them.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 04:46:41 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 12, 2024, 11:36:42 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm

I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.


What do you mean by "college habits?" I think college coaches are really good at coaching college athletes - many have adapted quite well to the new landscape.

I just don't know if BB can teach NFL-like concepts to athletes who are less knowledgeable than NFL players. Furthermore, does he know how to motivate these athletes and keep them engaged even if they aren't playing.

And let's see what staff he buildings. If he simply brings back his NFL staff, I don't think it works at all. He needs to add people who understand college football better.

College habits as in coaching under the rules of the old landscape.

OK thanks for that. But as I said, there are plenty of experienced college coaches who have adapted just fine to the new landscape.

thspfc

As far as celebrity college coaches go, Prime at Colorado has been a roaring success (don't argue, 1-11 to 9-3 in two years doesn't lie). Belichick is 100x the football coach Prime is. I think it's a very good hire.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: thspfc on December 12, 2024, 07:36:26 PMAs far as celebrity college coaches go, Prime at Colorado has been a roaring success (don't argue, 1-11 to 9-3 in two years doesn't lie). Belichick is 100x the football coach Prime is. I think it's a very good hire.

Prime is a fantastic recruiter, a good coach, and has surrounded himself with an excellent staff. BB is a better football coach no doubt, but IMO he is going to need to get some people who understand and who have taught at the college level and not just bringing the old Patriot band back together. College football is different.

The hiring of Michael Lombardi is as UNC's GM is an example of what would concern me if I were a UNC fan. He has been hooked in with BB for most of his career, but when he has had any responsibility on his own, he's been pretty mediocre if not really bad. He hasn't even worked in football for almost a decade.

Ted$8roadFan

He was definitely like Bobby Bowden (RIP) in his last few years in terms of his personnel choices. Loyalty and kinship appeared to matter over winning, especially since 2019. He will definitely need to hire assistants who are well versed in the college game.

Road Hog

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NIL has changed the game more than anybody knows. It has turned college sports into semipro sports. The liberal transfer portal has weaponized the series of one-year contracts that used to empower the coaches..

You still have to recruit and it remains to be seen whether Belichick can do so, but let's face it, there's more money on Tobacco Road for football than basketball. Football is King.

Ted$8roadFan

Some in the sports media world are now wondering how long BB will last in college, as the head coaching market in the NFL remains underwhelming and he has outs on his contract should a team come knocking.



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