PA Turnpike News

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Aside from the free bottles of water the PTC had out for attendees of the ribbon-cutting ceremony back on July 11, they also had something I hadn't seen in almost seven years:  a new map.  I have detailed the changes between the 2004 and 2011 edition and a copy of the cover on my website's blog.

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Michael in Philly

Gosh.  But why are they recommending 222 north/61/78/81 as an alternate rather than 222 south/30/283?
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US 222 is closed between the Oregon Pike and US 322 interchanges due to flooding.

Michael in Philly

Ah.  That would do it....
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Motorists traveling the Turnpike eastbound from Exit 10/New Castle to Exit 48/Allegheny Valley found themselves in a rather sticky situation last night.  A tanker carrying driveway sealant leaked its load between Toll I-376 and the Oakmont-Plum Service Plaza, with the majority of it falling west of the Warrendale Toll Plaza.

http://www.wtae.com/news/29837601/detail.html

cpzilliacus

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TOLLROADSnews: Penn Pike firee George Hatalowich named director "Strategic Operations" at Parsons Brinck PA

QuoteA colorful former officer of the Pennsylvania Turnpike George Hatalowich has been put on the payroll of Parsons Brinckerhoff in Camp Hill PA with the unusual title Director-Pennyslvania Strategic Operations. At the Turnpike Hatalowich, 46, was best known as a liaison with and fund raiser for politicians, and for drunken driving charges.

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Quote from: PAHighways on November 23, 2011, 01:21:25 AM
Motorists traveling the Turnpike eastbound from Exit 10/New Castle to Exit 48/Allegheny Valley found themselves in a rather sticky situation last night.  A tanker carrying driveway sealant leaked its load between Toll I-376 and the Oakmont-Plum Service Plaza, with the majority of it falling west of the Warrendale Toll Plaza.

http://www.wtae.com/news/29837601/detail.html

More from TOLLROADSnews: Tar spread by tanker trailer leaks over 40 mile stretch of Penn Pike Tuesday night
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Quote from: PAHighways on November 23, 2011, 01:21:25 AM
Motorists traveling the Turnpike eastbound from Exit 10/New Castle to Exit 48/Allegheny Valley found themselves in a rather sticky situation last night.  A tanker carrying driveway sealant leaked its load between Toll I-376 and the Oakmont-Plum Service Plaza, with the majority of it falling west of the Warrendale Toll Plaza.

http://www.wtae.com/news/29837601/detail.html

More of the story from the Baltimore Sun:

Trucker cited after tanker oozes asphalt goo onto Pa. Turnpike
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Quote from: PAHighways on November 29, 2011, 08:39:23 PM
More Than 460 Cars Damaged in PA Turnpike Spill - WJAC-TV Johnstown

LOL, they have already killed that article.  Guess they don't like hotlinking.

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mightyace

QuoteThe consultants would keep the present organization of toll points which over most of the mainline of the Turnpike the toll is trip-based in which a vehicle is registered on entry at a side toll plaza and again on exit and a distance-based toll computed. The western end plus newer extension tollroads are the more conventional point tolling, with multiple tolls levied at mainline or ramp toll points.

A nitpick here.  I would call point tolling more popular than conventional.  When the turnpike was first built, there were few precedents on tolling modern highways and in those early days, the ticket system was popular on all the big projects.  It is also a fairer way to toll as you pay the same rate for the miles you drive.

In a point system, you can pay $2 to drive 1 mile or 10 miles depending if the setup is just right (or wrong).

If you've looked at Toronto's 407ETR road, it works like a ticket system.  There are gantries on all exit ramps and gantries across the mainline only at both ends.  And, their toll schedule reflects this.

With electronic tolling, it is easier to implement ticket systems where it would have been uneconomical in the past.  But, it probably won't change as point tolling is easier to implement and understand.
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NE2

Quote from: mightyace on December 08, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
In a point system, you can pay $2 to drive 1 mile or 10 miles depending if the setup is just right (or wrong).
And if it's very wrong (Garden State Parkway) you can pay $2 for 10 miles and $0 for 20. (When they changed barrier tolls to one-way alternating they didn't touch the ramp tolls.)
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Quote from: NE2 on December 08, 2011, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: mightyace on December 08, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
In a point system, you can pay $2 to drive 1 mile or 10 miles depending if the setup is just right (or wrong).
And if it's very wrong (Garden State Parkway) you can pay $2 for 10 miles and $0 for 20. (When they changed barrier tolls to one-way alternating they didn't touch the ramp tolls.)
You can pay $1.35 for 4 miles - on at 141, barrier toll, off at 145, ramp toll. (Or $1.25 for 3 miles.)

goobnav

The E-tolling is going to be done here on Toll NC 147 and Toll NC 540.  I seriously doubt that the Tollworkers Union will ever allow E-Tolling is PA, if they do, don't surprised if it shows up on I-80.  Rendell may be gone but, unfortunately, his ideas cannot be destroyed.
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Mr_Northside

Quote from: mightyace on December 08, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
QuoteThe consultants would keep the present organization of toll points which over most of the mainline of the Turnpike the toll is trip-based in which a vehicle is registered on entry at a side toll plaza and again on exit and a distance-based toll computed. The western end plus newer extension tollroads are the more conventional point tolling, with multiple tolls levied at mainline or ramp toll points.

A nitpick here.  I would call point tolling more popular than conventional.  When the turnpike was first built, there were few precedents on tolling modern highways and in those early days, the ticket system was popular on all the big projects.  It is also a fairer way to toll as you pay the same rate for the miles you drive.

In a point system, you can pay $2 to drive 1 mile or 10 miles depending if the setup is just right (or wrong).

I completely agree.  PA-TPK 66, for example, you pay $1.45 (cash) for the approx. 2 miles between PA-136 & US 30.  The same amount you pay to drive the whole thing from New Stanton to Delmont.  Certainly not "fair".
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Quote from: goobnav on December 08, 2011, 08:02:05 PMThe E-tolling is going to be done here on Toll NC 147 and Toll NC 540.  I seriously doubt that the Tollworkers Union will ever allow E-Tolling is PA, if they do, don't surprised if it shows up on I-80.  Rendell may be gone but, unfortunately, his ideas cannot be destroyed.

They dug their collective feet in when E-ZPass was proposed in the late 90s, and it took concessions to allow it anywhere near the Turnpike.

The plan for tolling I-80 would have been E-ZPass gantries placed at roughly 30 mile intervals from Ohio to New Jersey.

cpzilliacus

Quote from: mightyace on December 08, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
If you've looked at Toronto's 407ETR road, it works like a ticket system.  There are gantries on all exit ramps and gantries across the mainline only at both ends.  And, their toll schedule reflects this.

Maryland's Md. 200 (ICC) toll road works the same way (toll is based on miles driven), though the designers chose not to put toll gantries at the on- and off-ramps, instead putting a gantry across the mainline roadways between each interchange, possibly because Md. 200 is much shorter than Highway 407.
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PA Turnpike Reminds Motorists of 10% Cash-Only Toll Increase Next Year

Cash fares go up in accordance with the Act 44 legislation passed in 2007.

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Quote from: PAHighways on December 16, 2011, 05:37:51 PM
PA Turnpike Reminds Motorists of 10% Cash-Only Toll Increase Next Year

Cash fares go up in accordance with the Act 44 legislation passed in 2007.

Does anyone know why some toll road operators (especially the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission) insist on calling tolls "fares." 

In my opinion, fares are what we pay when taking a trip on an aircraft, a bus, a taxicab, or a train, but not for driving our own vehicle (or a vehicle belonging to an employer) on a toll road.
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mightyace

An idea whose time has not yet come...
The 'green' Penn Pike to have electric vehicle charging at 17 service plazas

Given the current range of current electric vehicle and the recharging time, I doubt you'll see many people using this.
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Quote from: mightyace on December 17, 2011, 04:19:37 PM
An idea whose time has not yet come...
The 'green' Penn Pike to have electric vehicle charging at 17 service plazas

Given the current range of current electric vehicle and the recharging time, I doubt you'll see many people using this.

I agree, especially given how far it is between Pennsylvania Turnpike E-W mainline interchanges (heck, the range of at least some electric cars does not seem to allow travel between more than one or two interchanges).
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