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Started by Alps, September 17, 2013, 07:00:19 PM

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roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/PGq9MgE6jXM9QgSH8

This sign used to read Scranton before Stroudsburg, PA.

Anyway the lack of state designation for the Gap, supports your point for this sign.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe


kernals12

Looks like shit's getting serious. The governor is closing all state highways to nonessential traffic. Stay safe everyone.

roadman65

Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: kernals12 on September 01, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
Looks like shit's getting serious. The governor is closing all state highways to nonessential traffic. Stay safe everyone.

Floods and tornadoes will do that.

Alps


jeffandnicole

Quote from: kernals12 on September 01, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
Looks like shit's getting serious. The governor is closing all state highways to nonessential traffic. Stay safe everyone.

Huh? Not true.

It is bad out there in numerous areas throughout the state. But no one is closing all state highways.

74/171FAN

It seems like he is doing nothing more than telling people to stay off the roads.  That would be expected in a flash flooding situation just as much as in a winter storm.
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

kernals12

Sorry, I misread the nj.com article. But still, stay safe

roadman65

Quote from: kernals12 on September 02, 2021, 08:24:34 AM
Sorry, I misread the nj.com article. But still, stay safe

We all can misread things or immediately jump to the wrong conclusion.

In fact after you said that, I googled road closings in NJ and found nothing.  I learned in the past during the Trump verses Biden thing that immediately jumping to a wrong conclusion can make a heated Facebook argument.  I have seen pro Trump and pro Biden followers jump to the wrong conclusions and see cursing and kinds of character bashing and stereotyping over a misread statement.

I also now check dates of web articles as Google too posts old articles during searches as I have had egg on my face way too often before.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

bzakharin

Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/PGq9MgE6jXM9QgSH8

This sign used to read Scranton before Stroudsburg, PA.

Anyway the lack of state designation for the Gap, supports your point for this sign.
How about this then? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9728672,-75.1332617,3a,75y,328.94h,91.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg4k794Uqs3y0lzURViS_fg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Exit 310 is in PA, Del Water Gap without PA is still there. Wouldn't that go away after the visitors center if it's not referring to the borough in PA?

roadman65

You know whether Del. Water Gap is a place or not, the fact is either way the Feds can't prove that it is or isn't with the town of the same name beyond the actual geographical feature.

You could argue the same with NJ 94 nearby that has its mileage sign for Warwick, NY.  As Warwick is both a town and village in New York, both on the same road and Route 94 goes through them both.  However, the mileage sign refers to the NY State Border in which is the town line for Warwick, so its the town not the village, but one can argue that the guide signs in Hamburg and Vernon could mean either one.  Ditto for Freehold on US 9 as the US route is signed north from Lakewood as Freehold, and south from Sayreville as Freehold.  US 9 also passes by both municipalities named Freehold so we can consider the township and borough both on all the signs.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: bzakharin on September 02, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/PGq9MgE6jXM9QgSH8

This sign used to read Scranton before Stroudsburg, PA.

Anyway the lack of state designation for the Gap, supports your point for this sign.
How about this then? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9728672,-75.1332617,3a,75y,328.94h,91.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg4k794Uqs3y0lzURViS_fg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Exit 310 is in PA, Del Water Gap without PA is still there. Wouldn't that go away after the visitors center if it's not referring to the borough in PA?

Assuming this is accurate (and the signage suggests it is), that sign was placed by either DRJTBC or PennDOT since its within the DRJTBC section of I-80, so not relevant.
https://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/pdf/00000080__-.pdf

roadman65

Quote from: bzakharin on September 02, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/PGq9MgE6jXM9QgSH8

This sign used to read Scranton before Stroudsburg, PA.

Anyway the lack of state designation for the Gap, supports your point for this sign.
How about this then? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9728672,-75.1332617,3a,75y,328.94h,91.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg4k794Uqs3y0lzURViS_fg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Exit 310 is in PA, Del Water Gap without PA is still there. Wouldn't that go away after the visitors center if it's not referring to the borough in PA?

The sign is actually in NJ despite it being a PA Exit.  The bridge is ahead and the Millbrook-Flatbrookville exit is just ahead to the right.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: roadman65 on September 03, 2021, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on September 02, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/PGq9MgE6jXM9QgSH8

This sign used to read Scranton before Stroudsburg, PA.

Anyway the lack of state designation for the Gap, supports your point for this sign.
How about this then? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9728672,-75.1332617,3a,75y,328.94h,91.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg4k794Uqs3y0lzURViS_fg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Exit 310 is in PA, Del Water Gap without PA is still there. Wouldn't that go away after the visitors center if it's not referring to the borough in PA?

The sign is actually in NJ despite it being a PA Exit.  The bridge is ahead and the Millbrook-Flatbrookville exit is just ahead to the right.

See my comment, but its in the DRJTBC jurisdiction, so not an NJDOT sign.

roadman65

It may DRJTBC jurisdiction, but it is in New Jersey on a NJ highway.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2021, 12:20:25 AM
It may DRJTBC jurisdiction, but it is in New Jersey on a NJ highway.

In case you are unfamiliar with Exit 354, the bridge agencies have their own rules for signs which may completely disagree with NJDOT, so still, irrelevant.

Alps

The next person to talk about control cities in the New Jersey thread will receive moderation.

roadman65

This is more of an issue. The sign clutter EB Exit 53.
https://goo.gl/maps/B1q5E1gGyrPfrfSA7

It's the gateway sort of into Midtown Manhattan, and US 46, NJ 3, and NJ 495 provide a direct almost freeway like access to Midtown Manhattan.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Alps

Quote from: roadman65 on September 05, 2021, 07:35:52 AM
This is more of an issue. The sign clutter EB Exit 53.
https://goo.gl/maps/B1q5E1gGyrPfrfSA7

It's the gateway sort of into Midtown Manhattan, and US 46, NJ 3, and NJ 495 provide a direct almost freeway like access to Midtown Manhattan.
What is an issue? What clutter?

yakra

"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

02 Park Ave

Perhaps that in itself is the issue.
C-o-H

odditude


SignBridge

#3522
The clutter issue on the right-hand sign is too many symbols and too many destinations, a common issue on NJ highways. The term sign salad comes to mind.  One of the destinations should be removed. In Sec. 2E-10 the MUTCD suggests a maximum of three in the whole display. This display has a total of five. And that unknown symbol on the right should maybe go too.

jp the roadgeek

The one thing that is confusing is that New York is the control for I-80, while the Lincoln Tunnel (the NJ 3 control) is a better route to get to Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn. 
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

jeffandnicole

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on September 06, 2021, 08:01:14 PM
The one thing that is confusing is that New York is the control for I-80, while the Lincoln Tunnel (the NJ 3 control) is a better route to get to Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn. 

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30119.0



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