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HOV (Diamond) Lane Q's...Any 3+ HOV's anymore??

Started by thenetwork, December 04, 2009, 08:10:25 PM

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thenetwork

This question came to mind after watching a first-season episode of "CHiPs".

During some of the freeway-riding scenes every so often, they show the CHP motorcycle officers buzzing through actual traffic on open freeways (not sure if it was the actual actors, stunt doubles or actual CHP'ers since the shots were on a side-mounted camera following the lead cycle). 

I noticed on one of the scenes "somewhere in LA" that there was a Diamond-3 HOV lane that was open only to vehicles with 3 or more occupants. 

The Q's I have:

1)  How long did 3+ or 4+ passenger HOV lanes last in So. CA? I assume that all 3+ HOV lanes have since been reduced to 2+ passenger lanes and motorcycle due to the lack of qualified vehicles at the time.

2)  Is/Was there anywhere else in the US where there has/had 3+ or 4+ HOV lanes for passenger cars? And how long did those last before they were eliminated or lowered to 2+ passenger vehicles?
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corco

The HOV lanes on the Washington SR 520 from just east of I-405 to I-90 were 3+ last time I drove through there in late 2008, so I'd suspect they still are. I thought that was pretty odd.

I think they're 3+ on either BC-99 from Delta into downtown Vancouver BC or the TC-1 from Surrey into Vancouver BC

myosh_tino

Not sure about Southern California but up here in Northern California, I think all S.F. Bay Area freeways that have carpool lanes are 2+ except on I-80/Eastshore Freeway where, due to congestion in the HOV lane, it was raised to 3+ several years ago.  If I'm not mistaken, the HOV lanes at the bay area bridges are also 3+ because these carpoolers get to cross the bridges toll-free.
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citrus

I think there's still some HOV-3 on I-10 east of downtown L.A.

SSOWorld

I-80 in the Bay Area (Bayshore Freeway) has 3+ HOV.
Scott O.

Not all who wander are lost...
Ah, the open skies, wind at my back, warm sun on my... wait, where the hell am I?!
As a matter of fact, I do own the road.
Raise your what?

Wisconsin - out-multiplexing your state since 1918.

Alps

I thought that there were variable-person HOVs in one city - I don't remember if it was Atlanta, DC, San Fran, or somewhere else.  It would be 2+ during some hours but could vary to 3+ or even 4+ as the lane became more congested.  Thing is, I came across this in 2005 doing ITS thesis research, so I do not know if it's still done anywhere or if it was just a suggestion as opposed to actual practice...

BigMattFromTexas

In my opinion 3+ or 4+ would make more sense than 2+ because almost anyone could use the HOV lane with 2 people in their car...
BigMatt

froggie

QuoteIn my opinion 3+ or 4+ would make more sense than 2+ because almost anyone could use the HOV lane with 2 people in their car...

However, experience shows that the vast majority of vehicles during commuting hours are single-occupancy vehicles...

myosh_tino

Quote from: Master son on December 06, 2009, 10:03:50 AM
I-80 in the Bay Area (Bayshore Freeway) has 3+ HOV.
Ummm... that would be the Eastshore Freeway. :pan:  The Bayshore Freeway is U.S. 101 as it runs up the westside of the bay.
Also, thanks for confirming that I-80's HOV lanes are 3+.  I thought it was but wasn't sure.
Quote from: golden eagle
If I owned a dam and decided to donate it to charity, would I be giving a dam? I'm sure that might be a first because no one really gives a dam.

SSOWorld

Quote from: myosh_tino on December 06, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Master son on December 06, 2009, 10:03:50 AM
I-80 in the Bay Area (Bayshore Freeway) has 3+ HOV.
Ummm... that would be the Eastshore Freeway. :pan:  The Bayshore Freeway is U.S. 101 as it runs up the westside of the bay.
Also, thanks for confirming that I-80's HOV lanes are 3+.  I thought it was but wasn't sure.
Well ok so my memory is screwed up :happy:

Thanks for correcting
Scott O.

Not all who wander are lost...
Ah, the open skies, wind at my back, warm sun on my... wait, where the hell am I?!
As a matter of fact, I do own the road.
Raise your what?

Wisconsin - out-multiplexing your state since 1918.



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