What do you like or do in roadgeeking that most of us would consider garbage/bad/obsolete/etc? (or you think most of us would consider it that way?)
- Circlejerking with Colossalblocks about how good truss bridges are and how much new bridges suck.
- A liking towards old infrastructure, (particularly bridges, although anything goes mostly) no matter how bad of shape it's in or obsolete it is, and can't stand it being replaced even when I know it's absolutely necessary.
- A like of Botts Dots, even though they're not very good for rain visibility, and in some cases, visibility in general. Plows also scrape them up.
- 8/12 inch signals some would consider ugly, such as these: https://goo.gl/U9bg2W
- A lot of people don't like gantry signals. I do.
- I like Clearview for the most part, especially BCMOT's (British Columbia's equivalent of a DOT) use of it.
- Signals with double red lights. https://goo.gl/N44aA8 https://goo.gl/NctjgU
- Suffixed and split routes.
Complete and thorough route marker signage, especially for routes that might follow odd paths or streets through downtowns. The lack of signage for US Routes in places like Washington DC and Memphis actually really irritates me. :banghead:
Bott's dots. (Cue me getting lynched by angry roadgeeks)
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
You guys see the new one ODOT just built?
Doing Google Earth Interstate marathon (currently doing interstate 20).
Speed xx signs (although I'm only asking for the FHSA to use the 20-inch letters instead of the 16 inch used).
Fictional Speed limits.
This list may be updated.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
You guys see the new one ODOT just built?
Link to bridge please.
Actually, I must have missed out on something, because I assumed that most people liked Bott's Dotts. It sounds like that may not be the case, but I personally sure love them. :biggrin:
As for my roadgeek guilty pleasures:
1) Intensely enjoying even the most monotonous of Highways - as an example, I would be incredibly excited if someone told me that they were going to drive me both ways along the entire length of Interstate 16. Of course, what I enjoy the most is the most interesting stuff (and some roads are definitely comparatively more interesting than others), but I do not find any roads boring - I have too much love, interest, and passion for them.
2) I am not the biggest fan of new suffixed Interstate Highways, but I do like, and have no problem with, suffixed U.S. Routes - I am not informed on whether most people do or do not like suffixed U.S. Highways, but I am listing this just in case they don't.
I cannot think of any others with me at this exact moment.
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
You guys see the new one ODOT just built?
Link to bridge please.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4626/26123326268_670f316902.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FNqSM3)
Over I-235 in OKC. Just installed last weekend. (picture by another user, click to see their Flickr with more pics)
Not insisting on boycotting Breezewood businesses.
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
Bott's dots. (Cue me getting lynched by angry roadgeeks)
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
Botts', it's possessive proper noun with an 's', so be sure to put an apostrophe 's'! :bigass:
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I prefer neutered shields over state-named shields a lot more.
I like Clearview, but I still enjoy driving through states that have the standard FHWA font, such as Indiana and Tennessee. I like Indiana's highways in general.
FHWA Series B, at least in route markers.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
You guys see the new one ODOT just built?
Link to bridge please.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4626/26123326268_670f316902.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FNqSM3)
Over I-235 in OKC. Just installed last weekend. (picture by another user, click to see their Flickr with more pics)
Thank you fine sir. :thumbsup:
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on February 02, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
You guys see the new one ODOT just built?
Link to bridge please.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4626/26123326268_670f316902.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FNqSM3)
Over I-235 in OKC. Just installed last weekend. (picture by another user, click to see their Flickr with more pics)
Thank you fine sir. :thumbsup:
From the looks of it the truss is a RR overcrossing; likely on a main line (probably BNSF) that handles heavy loads (coal, containers, etc.). Specifications (if not actual design or funding) likely came from the RR itself. Of course, such a sharp angle in relation to I-235 below required a
very lengthy truss superstructure. Good to see the old reliable (and sturdy as hell!) methodology still is applicable today!
Clearview for me definitely. I also prefer sine salads over unisigns, especially when said sine salads are properly laid out.
Clearview, and odd and old signage, such as GDOT spec BGSs, 3 digits on 2 digit size route shields, colored US route shields, series C shields, and old FL SR trailblazers
Put me in the boat with those who like Clearview.
Clearview as well.
California's US route shields.
"Boring" Long flat stretches of interstate (think Sacramento to LA)
Pointless blue services signs in urban areas (like blue signs on Las Vegas Strip exits advertising "Lodging").
Quote from: chays on February 02, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
Put me in the boat with those who like Clearview.
Fires torpedoes :-P
Quote from: 21stCenturyRoad on February 02, 2018, 04:42:39 PM
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I prefer neutered shields over state-named shields a lot more.
Opens trap door underneath his feet :-D
All of the above reactions is probably because of my older age. I miss older school things such as trapezoidal brown recreation signs, Louisiana's older GREEN state shields of the late 70s/early 80s, and all-concrete interstates with the louder, harder-hitting expansion joints.
I have a fetish for old, faded BGSs and shields.
Telling people that Virginia isn't really as bad as some people make it out to be.
Button Copy and County Routes I find them interesting and follow it with curiosity.
Driving a really old and possibly forgotten highway alignment or some far flung mountain road.
Taking photos I may never publish later (or even look at that much), but... it's US 218! When's the next time I'll be in southern Minnesota? I gotta get that pic!
Driving freeway stretches with lots of roadside businesses & general clutter; I actually prefer US 101 between San Jose and S.F. over I-280 just because there's a lot to see (and it often changes over the course of months!). Also like that part of 101 from Marin up through Healdsburg for the same reason. But all-time fave for this particular "guilty pleasure" is CA 99 Bakersfield-Sacramento. Lots of places to turn off and find things to do/eat/drink -- not the "high plains" monotony of I-5.
I much prefer the "contractor made it exactly (or very close to) geographically correct" Ohio shields over the official Ohio shield which is too generic and blobby IMO.
I also enjoy a lot of other odd and unique signage that doesn't quite follow the standard rules.
VS988
Quote from: Buck87 on February 03, 2018, 06:11:00 AM
I much prefer the "contractor made it exactly (or very close to) geographically correct" Ohio shields over the official Ohio shield which is too generic and blobby IMO.
VS988
I'm the opposite of this. I don't like complex or otherwise highly detailed shields. In my opinion, a shield should be simple, if color use only two or three colors, and be distinct or related to other states. I think this can go for symbols or logos in general. (with the exception of things like coats of arms and seals)
-The loud, high-pitched whine from certain types of concrete tining. (Asphalt and longitudinal grooves disappoint me)
-Clearview
-Davit style light poles
-Doghouse signals
iPhone
My least popular view is most likely that I think state names in Interstate shields are unnecessary clutter and should never be included.
REFLECTORS!!!
And the sequences by which different DOTs choose to place them.
For example, of the states I've been to, FL, GA, IL, MA, NV, and VA, for the most part, use two reflectors on each outer edge of a double yellow center line. Most of the other states I've been to place one reflector in between the lines.
And the farthest south I've seen the snowplowable reflectors (with the metal casings imbedded in the pavement) used would have to be NC, TN, and AR. States south of those tend to use regular raised reflectors.
Can anybody else report about reflector placement sequences?
Quote from: Milwaukee, WY on February 03, 2018, 08:24:24 AM
-The loud, high-pitched whine from certain types of concrete tining. (Asphalt and longitudinal grooves disappoint me)
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
:bigass: :colorful:
As a young kid, when walking through grocery stores and such, I would pretend I was driving on roads, and I would either make "clunkety-clunk" or loud, high-pitched sounds while "driving on concrete roads." Especially with the latter, people who walked by me surely thought I was a little strange. :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 03, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
REFLECTORS!!!
[...]
And being from a state that doesn't use reflectors, I think they're a waste of time, money, and materials. Road "paint" (in quotes because of whether it's paint, thermoplastic, or etc) is all that's necessary.
Quote from: Takumi on February 02, 2018, 08:13:12 PM
Telling people that Virginia isn’t really as bad as some people make it out to be.
Yes. Thank you.
I'm sure many people that freak out about overzealous cops if you're going 80 or over never actually go 80 or over.
In my experiences on their highways, people drive there just like any other state, and the cops patrol the highways just like any other state. And by that, I mean you may pass a few cops while you're on the roads. You're not going to see hundreds of them. Oh, and when someone is pulled over, don't assume they're pulled over for going over 80. Maybe they simply had car trouble and the cop is assisting them!
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milwaukee, WY on February 03, 2018, 08:24:24 AM
-The loud, high-pitched whine from certain types of concrete tining. (Asphalt and longitudinal grooves disappoint me)
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
I really like when pavement changes from asphalt to concrete, or from any pavement to transverse-grooved concrete.
Quote from: roadguy2 on February 03, 2018, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milwaukee, WY on February 03, 2018, 08:24:24 AM
-The loud, high-pitched whine from certain types of concrete tining. (Asphalt and longitudinal grooves disappoint me)
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
I really like when pavement changes from asphalt to concrete, or from any pavement to transverse-grooved concrete.
That is quite cool as well! It is a very neat sound and feeling whenever that happens. :nod:
Reading (and being mildly entertained by) Timworld threads.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 03, 2018, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 03, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
REFLECTORS!!!
[...]
And being from a state that doesn't use reflectors, I think they're a waste of time, money, and materials. Road "paint" (in quotes because of whether it's paint, thermoplastic, or etc) is all that's necessary.
Since I do a LOT of night driving, and don't always have the luxury of choosing whether or not I do this driving on wet roads, I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, reflectors help tremendously!
Many years ago (like "˜89 or "˜90 I think) my dad and I were driving to NC for Thanksgiving. Hit the Smokies stretch of I-40 at night in the rain. Literally could not see the road markings in TN, which at the time was only seldomly using reflectors and had not used them there (TDOT started installing them on all interstates a few years later). Then we crossed into NC, the reflectors began, and we felt much safer knowing we wouldn't run off the road.
But yeah, MN and IA don't have a desperate need for them. Little to no curves, few hills, probably overall less traffic than the South in general. Yeah I can see where you would think they don't help up there.
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 03, 2018, 11:11:21 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 03, 2018, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 03, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
REFLECTORS!!!
[...]
And being from a state that doesn't use reflectors, I think they're a waste of time, money, and materials. Road "paint" (in quotes because of whether it's paint, thermoplastic, or etc) is all that's necessary.
Since I do a LOT of night driving, and don't always have the luxury of choosing whether or not I do this driving on wet roads, I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, reflectors help tremendously!
Many years ago (like "˜89 or "˜90 I think) my dad and I were driving to NC for Thanksgiving. Hit the Smokies stretch of I-40 at night in the rain. Literally could not see the road markings in TN, which at the time was only seldomly using reflectors and had not used them there (TDOT started installing them on all interstates a few years later). Then we crossed into NC, the reflectors began, and we felt much safer knowing we wouldn't run off the road.
But yeah, MN and IA don't have a desperate need for them. Little to no curves, few hills, probably overall less traffic than the South in general. Yeah I can see where you would think they don't help up there.
I live in Florida and reflectors are on ALL state highways even in urban areas... Most counties use them on main roads... I find them helpful on dark roads, in the rain, and when power is out. At night they give some advance warning of curves and changes in elevation.
When going the wrong way on a multilane highway, the reflectors are red. So you know you are going the wrong way. Helps stop some wrong way collisions I am sure
Also they serve as pseudo rumble strips and lane reminders.
I really love the reflectors
Z981
The Black on Yellow LEFT banner
Inkscaping Clearview signs taking out the Clearview
Reading weirdly designed gore signs by reading them as I see them. Case in point, where the EXIT on a gore sign is much higher than the number, I read the number in a low-pitched voice.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 03, 2018, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Takumi on February 02, 2018, 08:13:12 PM
Telling people that Virginia isn't really as bad as some people make it out to be.
Yes. Thank you.
I'm sure many people that freak out about overzealous cops if you're going 80 or over never actually go 80 or over.
In my experiences on their highways, people drive there just like any other state, and the cops patrol the highways just like any other state. And by that, I mean you may pass a few cops while you're on the roads. You're not going to see hundreds of them. Oh, and when someone is pulled over, don't assume they're pulled over for going over 80. Maybe they simply had car trouble and the cop is assisting them!
Virginia's problem is that you do not have the ability to defend yourself against random taxation (as SP Cook calls it.) And it's more bothersome in little towns where the speed limit drops to 35 but you can still safely drive 55, vs. interstates where it's easy to exceed 80 mph.
Eating large quantities of cheap fast food while on the road (hello, Taco Bell!).
Just driving aimlessly.
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And it's more bothersome in little towns where the speed limit drops to 35 but you can still safely drive 55, vs. interstates where it's easy to exceed 80 mph.
Show me a state east of the Mississippi where this doesn't happen.
The answers here are all over the map.
A guilty pleasure is generally defined as something that you occasionally indulge in but would be embarrassed to admit liking because that thing either has no intrinsic value or is terribly unpopular (or both). Watching reruns of
CHiPs, for example, would be a guilty pleasure: It's a poorly written, laughably acted show with no redeeming value (and you realize this), but you like to watch all of the car chases like a ten-year-old.
So what's a "roadgeek guilty pleasure" ? Something that you like about roadgeeking that's unpopular with other roadgeeks:
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on February 03, 2018, 04:38:48 PM
My least popular view is most likely that I think state names in Interstate shields are unnecessary clutter and should never be included.
Or something roadgeeking enables you to do that's bad for you:
Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 04, 2018, 06:20:36 PM
Eating large quantities of cheap fast food while on the road (hello, Taco Bell!).
Or something that you enjoy as a roadgeek that non-roadgeeks wouldn't understand:
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
But then again, if it's the latter, wouldn't that include basically ALL aspects of roadgeekdom?
Using Google Maps to look for new signage in other areas. Probably only a third of which in areas I have actually visited.
I like old bridges, old alignments, old signs. Before a trip, I often check my route using on-line mapping to look for old roads. 2-3 years ago, I found a section of the old Bankhead Highway east of Tupelo, MS. Sometimes, I just go and let the old roads find me.
Quote from: Takumi on February 04, 2018, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: hbelkins
And it's more bothersome in little towns where the speed limit drops to 35 but you can still safely drive 55, vs. interstates where it's easy to exceed 80 mph.
Show me a state east of the Mississippi where this doesn't happen.
Show me another state east of the Mississippi that bans radar detectors.
There is DC...
Quote from: hbelkins on February 05, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Takumi on February 04, 2018, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: hbelkins
And it's more bothersome in little towns where the speed limit drops to 35 but you can still safely drive 55, vs. interstates where it's easy to exceed 80 mph.
Show me a state east of the Mississippi where this doesn't happen.
Show me another state east of the Mississippi that bans radar detectors.
Virginia seems to be the only one (and DC). Most other states allow in private vehicles, but not commercial vehicles.
Quote from: US71 on February 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 05, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Takumi on February 04, 2018, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: hbelkins
And it's more bothersome in little towns where the speed limit drops to 35 but you can still safely drive 55, vs. interstates where it's easy to exceed 80 mph.
Show me a state east of the Mississippi where this doesn’t happen.
Show me another state east of the Mississippi that bans radar detectors.
Virginia seems to be the only one (and DC). Most other states allow in private vehicles, but not commercial vehicles.
Radar detector ban in commercial vehicles is a Federal mandate, and not up to individual states.
Didn't Connecticut at one time ban radar detectors?
Quote from: roadman on February 05, 2018, 01:10:44 PM
Quote from: US71 on February 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 05, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Takumi on February 04, 2018, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: hbelkins
And it's more bothersome in little towns where the speed limit drops to 35 but you can still safely drive 55, vs. interstates where it's easy to exceed 80 mph.
Show me a state east of the Mississippi where this doesn't happen.
Show me another state east of the Mississippi that bans radar detectors.
Virginia seems to be the only one (and DC). Most other states allow in private vehicles, but not commercial vehicles.
Radar detector ban in commercial vehicles is a Federal mandate, and not up to individual states.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_detector):
Radar
jammers are banned by federal law, although that law does not specifically ban laser jammers. 10 states (CA, CO, IL, MN, SC, OK, TN, TX, UT, VA) have laws that explicitly ban laser jammers.
As for
detectors, the only places with a complete ban are VA and DC, and it also appears to be a secondary violation in military bases. IL, NY, and NJ ban detectors in commercial vehicles over 10,000 pounds, as well as all vehicles over 18,000 pounds. US federal law bans detectors in any commercial vehicles over 18,000 pounds.
Additionally, MN and CA prohibit fixing items to the windshield, as it "obstructs vision" .
Quote from: OracleUsr on February 05, 2018, 11:25:25 PM
Didn't Connecticut at one time ban radar detectors?
Yes, it was repealed in 1992.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
:bigass: :colorful:
As a young kid, when walking through grocery stores and such, I would pretend I was driving on roads, and I would either make "clunkety-clunk" or loud, high-pitched sounds while "driving on concrete roads." Especially with the latter, people who walked by me surely thought I was a little strange. :rofl: :rofl:
I've told this story before, but I used to imitate the sound of the family station wagon going over concrete pavement while I was actually in the car. I had the same reaction as you when I said "P-copf. P-copf. P-copf..."
That's right! I actually SPELLED the sound!
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milwaukee, WY on February 03, 2018, 08:24:24 AM
-The loud, high-pitched whine from certain types of concrete tining. (Asphalt and longitudinal grooves disappoint me)
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
:bigass: :colorful:
As a young kid, when walking through grocery stores and such, I would pretend I was driving on roads, and I would either make "clunkety-clunk" or loud, high-pitched sounds while "driving on concrete roads." Especially with the latter, people who walked by me surely thought I was a little strange. :rofl: :rofl:
I did that, too, without the noises. I was at a campsite one time with a really nice, easy walking trail, and I pretended I was off in another city, imagining the signs overhead as I traversed the trail several times.
And also, you know that "wood grain" some desks had? I pretended those were roads. Even was accused one time of drawing on them by a classmate, even though I was tracing it with my finger.
Quote from: OracleUsr on February 05, 2018, 11:25:25 PM
Didn't Connecticut at one time ban radar detectors?
Yes. Not sure if it was related, but IIRC CT lifted their ban about the time MA started using radar detector activators (RDAs) at work zones and on the approaches to rest areas. Those changes were spurred by a fatal crash on I-290 in Auburn where a tractor trailer driver collided with a vehicle parked on the shoulder - it was determined that the TT driver had fallen asleep.
As I noted earlier in this thread, current FMCSA regulations prohibit commercial drivers from using radar detectors. While MA specifications still require RDAs be provided on work zone equipment (arrow boards and message panels), the RDAs approaching rest areas - and the "TAKE A BREAK STAY AWAKE FOR SAFETY SAKE" signs they were mounted on - have long fallen into disrepair and are slowly being removed.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 06, 2018, 12:44:10 AM
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
I absolutely love all of the sounds of pavement that are made while driving on it, and that includes the amazing sounds of driving on concrete interstates at high speeds (including the loud, high-pitched sounds).
:bigass: :colorful:
As a young kid, when walking through grocery stores and such, I would pretend I was driving on roads, and I would either make "clunkety-clunk" or loud, high-pitched sounds while "driving on concrete roads." Especially with the latter, people who walked by me surely thought I was a little strange. :rofl: :rofl:
I've told this story before, but I used to imitate the sound of the family station wagon going over concrete pavement while I was actually in the car. I had the same reaction as you when I said "P-copf. P-copf. P-copf..."
That's right! I actually SPELLED the sound!
Funny I always interpreted that sound as clippity-clop, like a racehorse galloping on the road.
As for my own, I'll say watching YouTube videos of other roadgeeks, spotting Clearview signs, and driving on highways lit with orange sodium-vapor lamps at night.
When I was younger, I would re-enact road trips by driving my Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars all over the latest road atlas.
Quote from: Henry on February 07, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
Funny I always interpreted that sound as clippity-clop, like a racehorse galloping on the road.
I didn't think of it that way, but I can see that.
Now for my own guilty pleasures;
Basically any unusual road signs, sign configurations and traffic signals. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for MUTCD (even state versions), but when something outside of the standard comes along it's intriguing to me. I suppose that was part of the appeal of the various parkways of Upstate New York. The same thing goes for things like the "Wait/Walk" pedestrian signals that look like ordinary two-light traffic signals.
Thruway and Turnpike-specific signage. I miss the big blue signs of the New York State Thruway, and the trapezoid gore signs of the New Jersey Turnpike and Garden State Parkway, and other things like that.
Additional oversized gas station and restaurant signs along the road that tower over the trees along the interstate highways south of the Mason-Dixon Line. The closest thing you had to that on Long Island years ago, was a slightly taller block vertical "Shell" sign at the former Shell gas station on the southeast corner of Exit 54 (Hospital Road) on NY 27 in East Patchogue. This closed down in the mid-1970's and became a 7-11 around the end of the decade, which it still is today.
Quote from: US71 on February 05, 2018, 12:05:08 AM
I like old bridges, old alignments, old signs. Before a trip, I often check my route using on-line mapping to look for old roads. 2-3 years ago, I found a section of the old Bankhead Highway east of Tupelo, MS. Sometimes, I just go and let the old roads find me.
That's awesome. Took my dad on an old stretch of 66 and he got annoyed at me. Granted, it was at dusk, but it's still one of my favorite trips.
My guilty pleasure would have to be the pre-interstate standard freeways. I like to look at the alignments and ramps and wonder "What were they thinking?" Most new interstates are very cut and paste, so they're boring
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 07, 2018, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Henry on February 07, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
Funny I always interpreted that sound as clippity-clop, like a racehorse galloping on the road.
I didn't think of it that way, but I can see that.
Now for my own guilty pleasures;
Basically any unusual road signs, sign configurations and traffic signals. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for MUTCD (even state versions), but when something outside of the standard comes along it's intriguing to me. I suppose that was part of the appeal of the various parkways of Upstate New York. The same thing goes for things like the "Wait/Walk" pedestrian signals that look like ordinary two-light traffic signals.
Thruway and Turnpike-specific signage. I miss the big blue signs of the New York State Thruway, and the trapezoid gore signs of the New Jersey Turnpike and Garden State Parkway, and other things like that.
Additional oversized gas station and restaurant signs along the road that tower over the trees along the interstate highways south of the Mason-Dixon Line. The closest thing you had to that on Long Island years ago, was a slightly taller block vertical "Shell" sign at the former Shell gas station on the southeast corner of Exit 54 (Hospital Road) on NY 27 in East Patchogue. This closed down in the mid-1970's and became a 7-11 around the end of the decade, which it still is today.
I myself love those huge, tall chain business signs along the roads, especially on exits on interstates. This includes those awesome truck stop signs that tower over absolutely everything. :)
When I used to draw roads in notebooks all the times as a kid, I would draw these large signs as well as all the road-related stuff whenever I would enter an "exit" or an "urban area."
Also, when I was 2 or 3 years old, some of the first things I drew on my magnadoodle were roads and McDonald's and gas station chain signs. Way back then when I would draw gas station signs, I would always do $1.39, $1.49, & $1.59 for the prices (due to what I picked up on the road in the real world at such a young age), and drawing that became such a habit and a tradition that even to this day, every once in a while, when I draw roads and stuff in notebooks, I will
still list those same prices whenever I draw gas station signs. :-D
Wow, have the gas prices changed since then (about 15 years later). :-o
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As a young kid, when walking through grocery stores and such, I would pretend I was driving on roads, and I would either make "clunkety-clunk" or loud, high-pitched sounds while "driving on concrete roads." Especially with the latter, people who walked by me surely thought I was a little strange.
I've told this story before, but I used to imitate the sound of the family station wagon going over concrete pavement while I was actually in the car. I had the same reaction as you when I said "P-copf. P-copf. P-copf..."
As long as we're talking about onomatopoeia related to highways, there's one sound that I've observed as far back as age 2. Ever notice sort of a... cycling whoosh sound made by tractor-trailers on the freeway?
Spelled out as "Hoi-da-da hoi-da-da hoi-da-da..." The sound is more pronounced when going under a longer underpass. I'm not sure, but it might have been better defined when trucks had "spoked" wheels.
And yes, I too was notorious for vocalizing sound effects, both
- road-related (driving over a railroad crossing at speed, "kadaLOOM-k'loom")
- and otherwise (jumping or diving into a swimming pool, "DOON - jih - zhea")
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on February 07, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
I myself love those huge, tall chain business signs along the roads, especially on exits on interstates. This includes those awesome truck stop signs that tower over absolutely everything. :)
When a new McDonald's opened circa 1977, they had one such tall sign along the freeway. But one thing was different about it: the burger count was listed as "Billions and Billions Served", Carl Sagan style (he never actually said that, but that's a different story). Whereas the regular sign along the surface road said the usual "Over XX Billion Served". Though it wasn't obvious to me at first, the reason made sense -- would
you want to climb all the way up there occasionally just to change some numbers?
Similarly, many (but not all) of the tall signs do not use internal backlighting, but instead have powerful floodlights/spotlights that illuminate the sign at night. The height of the stand the lights are mounted on can vary percent-wise to the height of the sign, but they're always considerably closer to the ground for ease to replace bulbs.
Bantering with empirestate about mileage-based exits :D
Also, as someone mentioned upthread, reading and laughing about the Timworld threads :-D
A few of mine...
- New York's use of FHWA series F on BGS state route shields
- Gaps/quirks in the interstate system. Everyone has something to say about Breezewood or I-93 in Franconia Notch, but it's interesting to me that these oddities exist in our national freeway system.
- Interstate/US route numbering oddities. Same as above; roads like I-99 or I-238 don't bother me, but rather interest me.
- Span-wire traffic signals. May be it's because I'm so used to seeing them in the Northeast, but I really like span-wire installs.
- Unisigns (if done correctly)
- Suffixed routes, especially the zany ones found in New York (9R, 17K, 18F, etc.)
Quote from: US71 on February 05, 2018, 12:05:08 AM
I like old bridges, old alignments, old signs. Before a trip, I often check my route using on-line mapping to look for old roads. 2-3 years ago, I found a section of the old Bankhead Highway east of Tupelo, MS. Sometimes, I just go and let the old roads find me.
Those are usually good too. Sometimes even when there's no pavement left on those former segments, you can see where the old alignments of those roads used to go. Years ago, I was talking to one of my brothers about the old section of NY 25 east of Artist Lake in Middle Island, and he thought it was just a residential frontage road. I told him it was an old segment of NY 25.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_NY_25_Artist_Lake_Stub;_Middle_Island,_New_York.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_NY_25_at_Picasso_Way;_Middle_Island,_New_York.JPG
In fact there are nearly dozens of former segments of both NY 25 and NY 25A that you can find in Nassau and Suffolk Counties, which is part of the reason I thought that lobbying group that was trying to prevent NY 25A from being widened (and possibly realigned) had an invalid argument, when they claimed that they were saving communities by preserving the road in it's original form.
I like LaTeX.
This is only tangentially roadgeek related, but it relates to a need for organization/looking pretty.
I like the metric signs on I-19 and bilingual signs in border areas more generally--both of which have historically been quite unpopular positions on this forum.
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Also, truss bridges are pieces of transportation history that must be preserved at all costs. (cue circlejerk)
You guys see the new one ODOT just built?
It looks just like the one on I215 near Riverside CA
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
Quote from: WISFreeways on February 11, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
I like LaTeX.
This is only tangentially roadgeek related, but it relates to a need for organization/looking pretty.
I took a professor by surprise one time when I did my Theory of Probability take home final in TeX. May have been LaTeX, was ported to an OS/2 version (and it was 1996).
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 07, 2018, 07:21:11 PM
As long as we're talking about onomatopoeia related to highways, there's one sound that I've observed as far back as age 2. Ever notice sort of a... cycling whoosh sound made by tractor-trailers on the freeway?
Spelled out as "Hoi-da-da hoi-da-da hoi-da-da..." The sound is more pronounced when going under a longer underpass. I'm not sure, but it might have been better defined when trucks had "spoked" wheels.
And yes, I too was notorious for vocalizing sound effects, both
- road-related (driving over a railroad crossing at speed, "kadaLOOM-k'loom")
- and otherwise (jumping or diving into a swimming pool, "DOON - jih - zhea")
My noises for going beneath underpasses, especially for Parkways or the Long Island Expressway in Nassau County; ("Cah-fuuu.").
Overpasses; ("Bad-umm-umm-umm, bad-umm-umm-umm, Bad-uff."). The last line was for when they ended.
Passing construction barricades; ("Sha-sha-sha-sha-sha, etc."). This of course was only when they had small gates and barrels lined up together. That effect never would've worked on a full-length gate blocking all three lanes straight across.
Mine is definitely old road architecture - even when clearly inadequate, I miss many of the old relics of the original construction of the interstates that are slowly disappearing. [Being replaced by structurally more sound bridges, wider curves, better sight lines and other safer modifications notwithstanding]
Another related one is tracing very old alignments. When it becomes impassable, it is pretty fun to walk as far as I dare, without trespassing, and see concrete remnants or some other clue that the road used to run at that spot.
It took a long time for many of the US highway signs to be removed after decommissioning. I still love finding the empty signposts that probably held those signs (and of course I LOVE finding a sign still standing. Of course, many communities have just put up street blades that say "Old US 75" or Old Hwy 81.")
Ka-thunka-thunk or Ka-chunker-chunk for long bridges (expansion joints) - and of course I would distinguish which sound applied to what bridge.
Sequential exit numbers. Anyone else? Anyone?
I cleared a many years abandoned and overgrown farm road behind the house. It is roughly 1000' long (the part I cleared) and I ride my ATV on it. I keep it just barely passable intentionally.
Love riding on it and taking friends and visitors to the farm for rides on it.
I found an over 80 year old aerial picture that shows the road, so it's really old. It had been abandoned since roughly the mid 60s and had quite a few smaller trees and a tremendous amount of brush growing on it. Surprisingly for being just a dirt road, it hadn't eroded too badly and some shovel work fixed the worst spots.
Not quite 'my' road, but I restored it and it's really a blast to ride on.
The excitement of driving into another state -- moreso to see their state shields, signage, and their standards for lighting, traffic signals, bridge supports, etc...
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 12, 2018, 11:09:46 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 07, 2018, 07:21:11 PM
As long as we're talking about onomatopoeia related to highways, there's one sound that I've observed as far back as age 2. Ever notice sort of a... cycling whoosh sound made by tractor-trailers on the freeway?
Spelled out as "Hoi-da-da hoi-da-da hoi-da-da..." The sound is more pronounced when going under a longer underpass. I'm not sure, but it might have been better defined when trucks had "spoked" wheels.
My noises for going beneath underpasses, especially for Parkways or the Long Island Expressway in Nassau County; ("Cah-fuuu.").
Ha! That's almost the exact sound I had for underpasses! One minor difference is to divide up the second part when there are multiple, discrete piers, i.e. "Cah- fu-fu-fu..."
As for my guilty pleasures, they include looking for abandoned railroads, and old-school traffic signals -- particularly 4-way non-adjustable units, sometimes called "pagoda" signals if they use cutaway visors. While there are fewer of these every year, I still occasionally get a surprise in some small town.
Another guilty pleasure is visiting shopping malls along the way, particularly enclosed ones. But these too are disappearing. I used to do the same with large downtown department stores, but these are virtually gone today. Other older and/or unusual retail establishments still merit a visit sometimes. Especially certain long-established, small-town ice cream parlors!
Quote from: thenetwork on February 16, 2018, 01:01:10 PM
The excitement of driving into another state -- moreso to see their state shields, signage, and their standards for lighting, traffic signals, bridge supports, etc...
Many people like that. I wouldn't call that a guilty pleasure.
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Quote from: thenetwork on February 16, 2018, 01:01:10 PM
The excitement of driving into another state -- moreso to see their state shields, signage, and their standards for lighting, traffic signals, bridge supports, etc...
Many people like that. I wouldn't call that a guilty pleasure.
The Internet has taken a lot of the dew off that rose. One of the things I really enjoyed about visiting a new state was to see what kind of state route marker they used. I know that during my western trip with my dad and brother back in 1991, I was disappointed because although we entered Nebraska, we didn't see any state route signs.
One of the biggest thrills I ever got during the Internet's infancy was finding Jim Lin's page with the graphic showing all the state route markers. That was a Really Big Deal to me.
I've never been to North Dakota, but when I get there, now I know that I'm either going to see an Indian head (old design) or state outline (new design). I saw both the Oklahoma meat cleaver and South Carolina's new marker online long before seeing them in person.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 16, 2018, 10:45:23 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 16, 2018, 01:01:10 PM
The excitement of driving into another state -- moreso to see their state shields, signage, and their standards for lighting, traffic signals, bridge supports, etc...
Many people like that. I wouldn't call that a guilty pleasure.
The Internet has taken a lot of the dew off that rose. One of the things I really enjoyed about visiting a new state was to see what kind of state route marker they used. I know that during my western trip with my dad and brother back in 1991, I was disappointed because although we entered Nebraska, we didn't see any state route signs.
One of the biggest thrills I ever got during the Internet's infancy was finding Jim Lin's page with the graphic showing all the state route markers. That was a Really Big Deal to me.
I've never been to North Dakota, but when I get there, now I know that I'm either going to see an Indian head (old design) or state outline (new design). I saw both the Oklahoma meat cleaver and South Carolina's new marker online long before seeing them in person.
That's adorable. I remember still having that sort of passion when I went on family road trips as a kid, even though I had seen the markers on the Internet–probably that same website, actually! I have a vague memory of browsing it. But it was definitely more satisfying to see them in person than it was as illustrations on a computer screen.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 17, 2018, 01:59:07 PMThe Internet has taken a lot of the dew off that rose.
To this sentiment I would say "Yes and no." Not everything is on the Internet. For example, only a minority of states have as-built repositories online where they are accessible to external customers (the ones I am aware of are AZ, VT, MN, GA, KY, and SC; KY's and VT's are full of holes and updating seems sporadic at best; SC requires a $60/year subscription). And one thing I have learned from as-builts of varying age is that even the best aren't really a substitute for seeing the real thing in person in all three dimensions.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 17, 2018, 01:59:07 PMOne of the things I really enjoyed about visiting a new state was to see what kind of state route marker they used. I know that during my western trip with my dad and brother back in 1991, I was disappointed because although we entered Nebraska, we didn't see any state route signs.
One of the biggest thrills I ever got during the Internet's infancy was finding Jim Lin's page with the graphic showing all the state route markers. That was a Really Big Deal to me.
Lin's site was and still is a valuable resource. So are state-level
SHS equivalents, which became increasingly common after 2004. But travel to see new state route markers is still rewarding because not all state route markers have drawings online, sizes are often used that are not exactly scaled up or down from the art available on the Internet (California is notorious for this, but this is also true of the Minnesota state route marker, for example), and often field installs fail to match any known drawing or specification (Oklahoma meat cleaver is the best-known example).
Before the Internet, there was also the 1972 FHWA leaflet showing the state route markers (source for some of the illustrations on the original version of Lin's site).
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 17, 2018, 02:40:20 PM
Lin's site was and still is a valuable resource. So are state-level SHS equivalents, which became increasingly common after 2004. But travel to see new state route markers is still rewarding because not all state route markers have drawings online, sizes are often used that are not exactly scaled up or down from the art available on the Internet (California is notorious for this, but this is also true of the Minnesota state route marker, for example), and often field installs fail to match any known drawing or specification (Oklahoma meat cleaver is the best-known example).
Short of emailing MnDOT itself (and even then, that might be of dubious result), I've never been able to find an exact specification of the Minnesota route marker, specifically regarding the state outline shape. Its size is specified in their version of the Standard Signs Manual, but I've yet to find a standard for how it should be drawn. In practice, there tends to be quite a bit of variation (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20019), from good to awful.
i'm sorry I have to bump this thread because I have so many and the last time I tried to create a new topic it failed.
- US 49 E and 49 W, a.k.a. the best split routes to exist.
- US 85. Idc if it is overlapped with interstates for hundreds of miles, I love that route and I will cry if they severely truncate it.
- Knowing that US 6 is longer than any interstate.
- I-69's split routes *ducks*
- US 40 and US 89 getting truncated *ducks again*
- US 57
- That dramatic bump sound when a vehicle goes on a bridge
- The sound when gas stops pumping
- Pressing "reset trip" in vehicles.
- The sound when you go into a median.
Quote from: Jardine on February 15, 2018, 11:16:51 PM
I cleared a many years abandoned and overgrown farm road behind the house. It is roughly 1000' long (the part I cleared) and I ride my ATV on it. I keep it just barely passable intentionally.
Love riding on it and taking friends and visitors to the farm for rides on it.
I found an over 80 year old aerial picture that shows the road, so it's really old. It had been abandoned since roughly the mid 60s and had quite a few smaller trees and a tremendous amount of brush growing on it. Surprisingly for being just a dirt road, it hadn't eroded too badly and some shovel work fixed the worst spots.
Not quite 'my' road, but I restored it and it's really a blast to ride on.
That's so cool. I would be tempted to get some replica '60s signs to install on it.
Since this got bumped, here are a few of my guilty pleasures:
-Ramp meters. I love getting to have my turn getting up to speed and also how they can help with congestion.
-Observing the yellow time of traffic lights
-Temporary traffic control devices, especially portable traffic signals and arrowboards
-Exits with both an option lane and exit-only lane, I sometimes take the option lane just cause I can
-The fatigue warning signs on I-80 in Utah
-Sections of roadway that change sounds frequently as you drive over them because of differences in the paving
-Having an eagle eye for Highway Gothic used outside of road signage
-Super-2s
-Interstates and state routes numbered 600 and above
-Warning signs mounted on overhead gantries
-US 1
-And lastly, the way the top of the 6 in FHWA Series E and F is just sliiiightly long
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 07, 2021, 05:16:46 AM
-The fatigue warning signs on I-80 in Utah
They're on more than just 80...
here's (https://goo.gl/maps/eZ8NykFhhZHBZqXs5)
another (https://goo.gl/maps/9EQg7RoJwJbaG3xe8)
set (https://goo.gl/maps/UWtEz6zer42nU7To9) of them on I-15/84 in Box Elder County. Pretty sure there are more somewhere on 15 in central/southern Utah too.
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Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 07, 2021, 05:16:46 AM
-The fatigue warning signs on I-80 in Utah
They're on more than just 80... here's (https://goo.gl/maps/eZ8NykFhhZHBZqXs5) another (https://goo.gl/maps/9EQg7RoJwJbaG3xe8) set (https://goo.gl/maps/UWtEz6zer42nU7To9) of them on I-15/84 in Box Elder County. Pretty sure there are more somewhere on 15 in central/southern Utah too.
As well as on I-70 through the 100+ mile NO SERVICES stretch between Green River and Salina.
Maryland's "next signal" signs, our fancy signs detailing points of interest along corridors, and that concrete sound. And of course Clearview.
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Funny I always interpreted that sound as clippity-clop, like a racehorse galloping on the road.
I didn't think of it that way, but I can see that.
Now for my own guilty pleasures;
Basically any unusual road signs, sign configurations and traffic signals. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for MUTCD (even state versions), but when something outside of the standard comes along it's intriguing to me. I suppose that was part of the appeal of the various parkways of Upstate New York. The same thing goes for things like the "Wait/Walk" pedestrian signals that look like ordinary two-light traffic signals.
Thruway and Turnpike-specific signage. I miss the big blue signs of the New York State Thruway, and the trapezoid gore signs of the New Jersey Turnpike and Garden State Parkway, and other things like that.
Additional oversized gas station and restaurant signs along the road that tower over the trees along the interstate highways south of the Mason-Dixon Line. The closest thing you had to that on Long Island years ago, was a slightly taller block vertical "Shell" sign at the former Shell gas station on the southeast corner of Exit 54 (Hospital Road) on NY 27 in East Patchogue. This closed down in the mid-1970's and became a 7-11 around the end of the decade, which it still is today.
I myself love those huge, tall chain business signs along the roads, especially on exits on interstates. This includes those awesome truck stop signs that tower over absolutely everything. :)
When I used to draw roads in notebooks all the times as a kid, I would draw these large signs as well as all the road-related stuff whenever I would enter an "exit" or an "urban area."
Also, when I was 2 or 3 years old, some of the first things I drew on my magnadoodle were roads and McDonald's and gas station chain signs. Way back then when I would draw gas station signs, I would always do $1.39, $1.49, & $1.59 for the prices (due to what I picked up on the road in the real world at such a young age), and drawing that became such a habit and a tradition that even to this day, every once in a while, when I draw roads and stuff in notebooks, I will still list those same prices whenever I draw gas station signs. :-D
Wow, have the gas prices changed since then (about 15 years later). :-o
Yes, yes, yes! I have a strange affinity for all that. I also love all the billboards they put up advertising services for exits and towns ahead, the farther away from the actual establishment the better.
I also love non-maintained service signs and billboards showing old logos. I am a fan of all the old or neglected road paraphernalia - old route signs, bridges, alignments, etc. Button copy forever! I love Series B in interstate signage and 3-digit routes on 2-digit blanks.
- Unpaved state routes
- Lowest AADT segments (i.e. most remote possible)
- Shortest highways in each state
- Learning all about Alaska, Yukon, and Northwest Territories highways even though I haven't been there yet
Chris
-Clearview
-The sound of going over an expansion joint
-Overhead BGS's with two or three control cities (and distance signs with three or more)
-Signs that light up
Listening to EDM music on road trips
and my own at that
I don't know but when I get home from that trip I'll listen to whatever song I was obsessed with while on the trip and I'll have clear memories of that trip even years after actually having been on it. And I'm not sure why I like EDM but I do so just yeah.
I like Clearview.
Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on March 08, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
I don't know but when I get home from that trip I'll listen to whatever song I was obsessed with while on the trip and I'll have clear memories of that trip even years after actually having been on it.
I would bet this is something most members of this forum have experienced at least once. As an example, every time I hear Coldplay's "Paradise" now, I think of I-15 heading south through central Utah...because I listened to it a bunch one of the times I went down that way. That was probably over 5 years ago at this point but the association is still there.
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Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on March 08, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
I don't know but when I get home from that trip I'll listen to whatever song I was obsessed with while on the trip and I'll have clear memories of that trip even years after actually having been on it.
I would bet this is something most members of this forum have experienced at least once. As an example, every time I hear Coldplay's "Paradise" now, I think of I-15 heading south through central Utah...because I listened to it a bunch one of the times I went down that way. That was probably over 5 years ago at this point but the association is still there.
Yes! I guess you could call this nostalgia. I have the same type of association with "Opportunity" by Pete Murray with I-64 in West Virginia (it was a cover, but a good one). And there's probably a dozen or so songs I associate with the NY Thruway, more than I could list off the top of my head right now.
Since you mention a Coldplay song, I might mention that their songs seem to stick around in one's memory. Take "Clocks" as an example: I heard it many years ago (don't even remember in what context), and then stumbled across it on YouTube a few months ago. Within seconds, I was hit with a wave of nostalgia...
Quote from: US 89 on March 08, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on March 08, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
I don't know but when I get home from that trip I'll listen to whatever song I was obsessed with while on the trip and I'll have clear memories of that trip even years after actually having been on it.
I would bet this is something most members of this forum have experienced at least once. As an example, every time I hear Coldplay's "Paradise" now, I think of I-15 heading south through central Utah...because I listened to it a bunch one of the times I went down that way. That was probably over 5 years ago at this point but the association is still there.
When a buddy and I went on a huge college road trip back in 2003, I had one of those CD decks were you could load 300 mp3s on one CD. Despite only having three Bob Seger songs on the whole CD (Night Moves, Turn the Page, and Like a Rock), putting the CD on shuffle, a Bob Seger song would inevitably come on every four songs at most. I had my first visits to Ontario, Quebec, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Delaware serenaded by Mr. Seger about every 15-20 minutes.
Chris
One of my pre-marriage guilty pleasures was taking the old US highways across the country or region instead of the interstate when time (or passengers) permitted.
Doesn't happen as much once I got married and moved to Colorado.
When US routes are designated to be concurrent with a nearby Interstate instead of remaining on an old non-limited access road.
Numbered routes are supposed to be the best available route from one place to another along the route. Non-limited, often arterial, roads that are parallel to freeways are not the best available route.
Also, compared to most of y'all on the forum, actually attempting to comply with the MUTCD's message loading standards and guidelines. There is almost never an actual need to have both a primary and secondary control city for the same direction of the same route.
Quote from: thenetwork on March 08, 2021, 08:02:48 PM
One of my pre-marriage guilty pleasures was taking the old US highways across the country or region instead of the interstate when time (or passengers) permitted.
Doesn't happen as much once I got married and moved to Colorado.
I still do that when time permits. Every March, I used to have a Ren Faire in Mississippi, so I'd leave 1-2 days early taking the old 2-Lane. One year, it was US 80 from Shreveport, another was US 51 from Memphis.