NYC Roads

[mariethefoxy]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

They need to get someone in there to throw out all that vision zero crap thats been making traffic worse

[SignBridge]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

[vdeane]

Does this even affect legal parking?  That area looks too close to an intersection to park legally anyways.  I know this is NYC where illegal parking is an art form and widely tolerated as long as certain cultural norms are followed, but that doesn't make it right.

[Plutonic Panda]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

[cockroachking]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

Personally, I would rather sacrifice parking over human lives...

[Rothman]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

Personally, I would rather sacrifice parking over human lives...

How radical.

[vdeane]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

The aim is actually improving intersection visibility.  The article is focusing on the parking to sensationalize it since they're against it.

It's like the articles that came out before Thanksgiving with headlines along the lines of "speed cameras coming to I-84" making it look like there was some new program to ticket everyone on that road, when in actuality one of the work zones on it was getting the work zone speed limit cameras (a program that's been operating all year) that week.

[Plutonic Panda]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

Personally, I would rather sacrifice parking over human lives...

How radical.

Let's ban every car in the US. It'll stop all traffic deaths. Anyone who dares question that we respond with a snarky "how radical."

[Plutonic Panda]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

The aim is actually improving intersection visibility.  The article is focusing on the parking to sensationalize it since they're against it.

It's like the articles that came out before Thanksgiving with headlines along the lines of "speed cameras coming to I-84" making it look like there was some new program to ticket everyone on that road, when in actuality one of the work zones on it was getting the work zone speed limit cameras (a program that's been operating all year) that week.

I'm against all automated traffic enforcement with the exception of school and work zones.

Everything else you're saying can be done without removing some arbitrary number of cars per month from intersections. That just reeks as a political talking point pandering to the anti car crowd and doesn't come off as simply improving intersection visibility. From the rendering in the article goes way too far back from the intersection.

[Alps]

Christ the people that run NYC are loons.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-vows-to-remove-parking-spots-from-1000-nyc-intersections-every-year

Ya' gotta understand that New York City traffic and parking conditions are far more dense than you have in Los Angeles. Much as I'd hate to see NYC lose much needed street parking spaces, improving visibility at intersections is a good idea, especially on narrow streets in many densely packed neighborhoods.

This seems a little bit to the extreme though. Maybe in some areas this is warranted. But just having a program that arbitrarily says we're going to remove x amount of parking spaces near each intersection every so often?

I'm in full agreement. This is NYC. People routinely cross for the entire green and you must wedge your way through to turn. Pedestrians are everywhere and very visible. There is absolutely NO cause to do what NYC is proposing except make it harder for cars to exist. So, fine, I'll take my money elsewhere where I'm allowed to drive.

[NoGoodNamesAvailable]

Does this even affect legal parking?  That area looks too close to an intersection to park legally anyways.  I know this is NYC where illegal parking is an art form and widely tolerated as long as certain cultural norms are followed, but that doesn't make it right.

Parking immediately up to a crosswalk/intersection is legal in NYC, The Vehicle and Traffic Law allows NYCDOT to overrule certain state traffic laws by regulation, and the crosswalk/intersection parking distances are one of them.

[mrsman]

Does this even affect legal parking?  That area looks too close to an intersection to park legally anyways.  I know this is NYC where illegal parking is an art form and widely tolerated as long as certain cultural norms are followed, but that doesn't make it right.

Parking immediately up to a crosswalk/intersection is legal in NYC, The Vehicle and Traffic Law allows NYCDOT to overrule certain state traffic laws by regulation, and the crosswalk/intersection parking distances are one of them.

That's right.  It seems that NY (and many other states) generally prohibit parking within 20 feet from a corner (about 1.3 average car lengths).  In order to maximize parking, that rule does not apply in NYC.  It seems that they are reincorporating the rule for NYC to improve intersection visibility, but the only way to make it legally enforceable will be with a change in the parking signage.

And the only way to make it practically enforceable (i.e. prevent illegal parking at the corner) is to adjust the curbs to prevent cars from staying there.  This can be a neckdown by increasing the cement, or putting in bike racks, planters, bollards, or other light infrastructure that prevents a car from sitting there, but still allows for visibility.

So yes, while it seems like a large amount of parking to be lost at any one time, in reality, this is just making NYC conform to rules that apply in much of the nation for visibility purposes.  As a percentage, losing one spot for every corner should not be a big deal.

[SignBridge]

Yeah, in NYC losing those spaces is a big deal.Conditions are so dense that every parking space counts, but I agree that visibility is more important.

[TheDon102]

A lot of the Midtown avenues are slowly but surely being killed off by NYCDOT. I'm shocked that 8th avenue is down to 2 lanes between 31st and 51st street.

[ixnay]

A lot of the Midtown avenues are slowly but surely being killed off by NYCDOT. I'm shocked that 8th avenue is down to 2 lanes between 31st and 51st street.

I guess you are talking about this...

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/08/04/eighth-ave-road-diet-marches-north-but-community-wants-concrete-plan

[SignBridge]

I'd say that plan goes a little too far. They should maintain 3 lanes for traffic.

[TheDon102]

A lot of the Midtown avenues are slowly but surely being killed off by NYCDOT. I'm shocked that 8th avenue is down to 2 lanes between 31st and 51st street.

I guess you are talking about this...

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/08/04/eighth-ave-road-diet-marches-north-but-community-wants-concrete-plan

Yes. 8th avenue in 2011 had ~5 lanes of through traffic with two parking lanes, 8th avenue is now down to 2 lanes...crazy. I agree with expanding sidewalks given how narrow they originally were, but 2 lanes for traffic? That's insane.

[D-Dey65]

That doesn't answer my question, as the bridge is not a parkway. If I look at, say, Flatbush Avenue between the Marine Parkway Bridge and the Belt Parkway, the BGSs for the Belt Parkway have "Passenger Cars Only" underneath, not "No Commercial Traffic." Same for the signs for the Belt Parkway on the Verrazzano, the signs for the Interboro Parkway on the Van Wyck, or the signs for Grand Central Parkway coming off the Triboro Bridge.

Mostly during the 1970's.

[route17fan]

Hey all - a gift from NYCDOT. Street Sign Work Orders. It seems to be organized by sign identifier (in lower left corner of the sign) but I can not figure out how to display the work order to see the sign face itself.  Link: https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Transportation/Street-Sign-Work-Orders/qt6m-xctn/data

[Mergingtraffic]

A classic black on white road sign in NYC. NY-9A HHP just past I-95.


The only other one I know is ATLANTIC BEACH NEW YORK in Far Rockaway

[Alps]

A classic black on white road sign in NYC. NY-9A HHP just past I-95.


The only other one I know is ATLANTIC BEACH NEW YORK in Far Rockaway

beg pardon, WHEN WAS THIS TAKEN?!?!
and exactly where do I need to walk tomorrow (edit: FOUND IT https://maps.app.goo.gl/5e94MdgKsa9Rb7sQA)

[Mergingtraffic]

A classic black on white road sign in NYC. NY-9A HHP just past I-95.


The only other one I know is ATLANTIC BEACH NEW YORK in Far Rockaway

beg pardon, WHEN WAS THIS TAKEN?!?!
and exactly where do I need to walk tomorrow (edit: FOUND IT https://maps.app.goo.gl/5e94MdgKsa9Rb7sQA)

HA! Good Eye! I took it on New Years Eve Morning. The bottom says KEEP LEFT. I wonder if the road was closer to that rock wall years ago?

[D-Dey65]

HA! Good Eye! I took it on New Years Eve Morning. The bottom says KEEP LEFT. I wonder if the road was closer to that rock wall years ago?

I've got a Historic Aerials image of the vicinity from 1954.
https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=12&lat=40.84&lon=-73.94

[ixnay]

Is the PANYNJ or NYCDOT responsible for the sunken approach road from 30th St. up to the Lincoln Tunnel?

[SignBridge]

Is the PANYNJ or NYCDOT responsible for the sunken approach road from 30th St. up to the Lincoln Tunnel?

I will make an educated guess that it's the Port Authority's road the same as the helix on the New Jersey side.