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Started by LM117, July 14, 2016, 12:29:05 PM

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Bobby5280

Quote from: roadman65Does anyone think that if I-87 makes it to Hampton Roads that I-464 would become I-87 if I-87 does ever make it into the Old Dominion State?

Only if I-87 manages to overlap US-17 all the way to the I-64/I-464/US-17 interchange. Even if it does chances are good I-87 would simply end at that interchange with I-64. It would be kind of like how I-49 ends on the South edge of the Kansas City metro.


jcil4ever

I saw repaving has started west of 95. Only left lane so far, but no evidence of widening the right shoulder 😢

sprjus4

Quote from: jcil4ever on October 02, 2024, 12:27:22 PMI saw repaving has started west of 95. Only left lane so far, but no evidence of widening the right shoulder 😢

They're very inconsistent. I think the shoulder widening was limited to that segment east of Rocky Mount.

bob7374

Quote from: sprjus4 on October 02, 2024, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: jcil4ever on October 02, 2024, 12:27:22 PMI saw repaving has started west of 95. Only left lane so far, but no evidence of widening the right shoulder 😢

They're very inconsistent. I think the shoulder widening was limited to that segment east of Rocky Mount.
The inconsistency can be explained by the 3 different contracts involved in pavement rehabilitation of US 64 in Nash and Edgecombe counties. The first one let in 2021, from Old Carriage Road west of I-95 to Kingsboro Road. This apparently did not initially include plans to widen the shoulders. Some additional funds however became available to at least widen them to interstate standards at the eastern end of the work zone. The next contract, Kingsboro Road to NC 33, as photos have shown, includes 10 foot shoulder widening. The third, back west of I-95 from South Old Franklin Road to Old Carriage Road was let in the summer of 2023, but did not start until the beginning of this year. The plans may, or may not show, possible shoulder widening. I have included a link to the plans. Typical Sections 1 and 2 deal with US 64, the other sections with exit ramps. The diagrams for these sections start on p. 4 and appear to show (though I'm no plan expert) for Section 1 the removal of the existing shoulder and replacement by a 12 foot wide shoulder, while Section 2 shows only a 4 foot shoulder replacing the existing 3 foot one.

jcil4ever

I drove on 64 westbound today from US-13 to NC-58. Nice to see so much smooth asphalt, especially west of I-95. However, as nice as the ride was, sadly it looks like shoulder widening was not in the cards for this project. Here's video of 64/Future I-87 between I-95 (exit 464) and NC-58 (Exit 459) back and forth. No interstate-standard shoulders after the 95 interchange, except around a few bridges and guardrails.


jcil4ever

Also noticed some additional lighting was added in the median south of Old Carriage Rd. (Exit 463), but it's not functioning yet.

There was also a message sign approaching the 95 interchange from 64 east advising that the ramp to southbound I-95 will close starting Tuesday, Nov. 5 at 8pm. I assume this means the opening of the interchange with Sunset Ave. is imminent.



bob7374

Quote from: jcil4ever on November 04, 2024, 12:22:57 AMI drove on 64 westbound today from US-13 to NC-58. Nice to see so much smooth asphalt, especially west of I-95. However, as nice as the ride was, sadly it looks like shoulder widening was not in the cards for this project. Here's video of 64/Future I-87 between I-95 (exit 464) and NC-58 (Exit 459) back and forth. No interstate-standard shoulders after the 95 interchange, except around a few bridges and guardrails

Thanks for the video. Certainly gives the impression that you are more likely to see I-87 signed east of I-95 before west towards Raleigh. That will depend on whether TIP project U-6149, that was to improve US 64 to interstate standards from NC 58 through Rocky Mount to the Thomas Road overpass, the shoulders east of which have now been widened, is put back in the new Draft STIP due out in early 2025. Work was to start in 2029 before the project was dropped from the current STIP. There are no other I-87 related projects between US 264 (Future I-587) and I-95 in the proposed 2026-2035 STIP project list.

The Ghostbuster

I wish the upgrades for the corridor to become Interstate 87 could happen faster. However, with so many competing projects, upgrades to the US 17/64 corridors have to wait in line for other higher-priority corridors to undergo construction first.

LM117

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Quote from: bob7374 on November 04, 2024, 09:49:00 PMThanks for the video. Certainly gives the impression that you are more likely to see I-87 signed east of I-95 before west towards Raleigh.

You'd think NCDOT would be more focused on upgrades between Knightdale and I-95, given that a "northerly" interstate connection to I-95 was the Regional Transportation Alliance's reason for pushing I-495 back in 2013.
"I don't know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!" -Jim Cornette

plain

Quote from: LM117 on November 07, 2024, 06:19:17 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on November 04, 2024, 09:49:00 PMThanks for the video. Certainly gives the impression that you are more likely to see I-87 signed east of I-95 before west towards Raleigh.

You'd think NCDOT would be more focused on upgrades between Knightdale and I-95, given that a "northerly" interstate connection to I-95 was the Regional Transportation Alliance's reason for pushing I-495 back in 2013.

Basically this is what I thought they were going to do in the first place.
Newark born, Richmond bred

jcil4ever

Quote from: LM117 on November 07, 2024, 06:19:17 AMYou'd think NCDOT would be more focused on upgrades between Knightdale and I-95, given that a "northerly" interstate connection to I-95 was the Regional Transportation Alliance's reason for pushing I-495 back in 2013.

I wonder if not adding shoulders is just indicative of the other improvements that also need to be done to bring 64 up to Interstate standards. I'm guessing the eastbound bridges over NC-58 and Stony Creek need to be replaced, along with maybe the ones carry Alston St. and 1st St. over 64.

bob7374

Quote from: jcil4ever on November 07, 2024, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: LM117 on November 07, 2024, 06:19:17 AMYou'd think NCDOT would be more focused on upgrades between Knightdale and I-95, given that a "northerly" interstate connection to I-95 was the Regional Transportation Alliance's reason for pushing I-495 back in 2013.

I wonder if not adding shoulders is just indicative of the other improvements that also need to be done to bring 64 up to Interstate standards. I'm guessing the eastbound bridges over NC-58 and Stony Creek need to be replaced, along with maybe the ones carry Alston St. and 1st St. over 64.
That's certainly part of it. The NCDOT feasibility study done several years ago indicated that at least 6 bridges between US 264 and NC 58 would have to be replaced at a cost then of around $75 million. East of NC 58 the study said most of the bridges would only need widening but a new EB bridge would have to be built over Stony Creek. Most of the exit ramps would also have to be rebuilt to interstate standards, all with an estimated cost then of over $30 million. None of these projects are currently funded. 

sprjus4

New Street View from October, November, and December 2024 has been added along US-64 east of Rocky Mount. You can clearly see progress (and in some areas completion) with the resurfacing & addition of full width shoulders along the highway. The extents of the project run approximately 12 miles long between Thomas Rd (overpass 2 miles east of the US-64 Bus interchange east of Rocky Mount) and the Tar River Bridges. The highway to the east already meets full interstate standards extending out to Williamston.

To the west of this project, however, the Rocky Mount bypass does not meet interstate standards and does not have full width shoulders. It was recently resurfaced though... I'm guessing more extensive upgrades are planned. They probably went ahead and added shoulders on the rest because it has no long range improvements planned.



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