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Started by Max Rockatansky, November 30, 2024, 12:04:20 PM

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Scott5114

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 02, 2024, 11:01:47 PMI don't.  The only thing I was ever diagnosed with was ADHD. Thing was that was 35 years ago and I don't think how they diagnosed things in the 1980s lines up with how it is done now.

ADHD and autism have a lot of overlap. A lot of people with one have at least some traits of the other, and there are quite a lot of people diagnosed with both ("AuADHD").
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Max Rockatansky

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Quote from: Scott5114 on December 02, 2024, 11:41:26 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 02, 2024, 11:01:47 PMI don't.  The only thing I was ever diagnosed with was ADHD. Thing was that was 35 years ago and I don't think how they diagnosed things in the 1980s lines up with how it is done now.

ADHD and autism have a lot of overlap. A lot of people with one have at least some traits of the other, and there are quite a lot of people diagnosed with both ("AuADHD").

I've been made aware (from my wife specifically).  I just prefer to not diagnose myself, especially since I'm not seeking one.  That said, I don't believe that I could function in what I do for a living if I had ADHD or autism. 

When I was a kid having ADHD certainly carried a stigma.  I seem to recall not having a choice in being assigned to a resource room following diagnosis in the 1st grade.  The other kids at the time definitely had their perception of ADHD (and the resource room kids) and made their point of view clear.  I got into a lot of fights over it back in those days. 

I stopped taking ADHD medicine around the 5th grade and never resumed it.  I actually lied about taking medicine until the 6th grade until I fessed up to my mom.  I tend to chalk those years up to being just plain uninterested in school.  Truth be told, I wasn't very interested until I went to college and I was flipping the bill.

Now my dad is a different story.  He had ADHD which got progressively worse as he aged.  There was something off about him in general but it just got more out check the older he got.  Specifically he had a really difficult time understanding why the things he did upset people.  He did have brain terminal cancer in his 50s which may have contributed to worsening symptoms.

I've mentioned previously my dad was an active road fan.  He was engaged in numerous facets of the hobby we'd consider normal now such as taking photos and finding old alignments.  I distinctly recall him explaining what the US Route System was while on US 12 in Michigan when I was 3-4 years old. 

GaryV

Quote from: Rothman on December 02, 2024, 08:31:03 PMIf personae non gratae get together, are they no longer personae non gratae?

They just become grating.

Can we add OCD to those conditions that afflict road geeks?


1995hoo

Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 02, 2024, 10:49:18 PMFYI I also have aspergers. Seems very common in the road geek community.
I'd be surprised if anyone here didn't have some form of autism.

I've never been diagnosed with any sort of any such thing and have never had reason to suspect I have any form of it.
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Roadgeekteen

Oh I wouldn't say all roadgeeks have autism/ADHD. I'd say they are severly overepresented in the hobby.
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hbelkins

I was unaware that the swastika was ever anything more than a Nazi symbol until I stumbled on a photo of an old Arizona state highway marker at some point after discovering m.t.r. back in 1995. I had no idea that the symbol had such a rich heritage that had been co-opted by the Nazis.

I've also never been diagnosed with autism or ADHD. At this point in my life (having just turned 63) I'm not sure that being diagnosed as such would have any benefit. Nor do I think such a determination would have been beneficial in my youth. They probably would have used it as an excuse to pump me full of mind-altering drugs.

Who was the poster who announced that he had no interest whatsoever in roads? Was that P13?
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: hbelkins on December 03, 2024, 12:01:08 PMI was unaware that the swastika was ever anything more than a Nazi symbol until I stumbled on a photo of an old Arizona state highway marker at some point after discovering m.t.r. back in 1995. I had no idea that the symbol had such a rich heritage that had been co-opted by the Nazis.

I've also never been diagnosed with autism or ADHD. At this point in my life (having just turned 63) I'm not sure that being diagnosed as such would have any benefit. Nor do I think such a determination would have been beneficial in my youth. They probably would have used it as an excuse to pump me full of mind-altering drugs.

Who was the poster who announced that he had no interest whatsoever in roads? Was that P13?
P13
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freebrickproductions

Quote from: GaryV on December 03, 2024, 07:09:19 AMCan we add OCD to those conditions that afflict road geeks?

IIRC, there's some amount of evidence that Autism, ADHD, and OCD might all be the same disorder, just presenting itself in different ways in different people, and diagnosed based on personal biases of the doctor in question (such as the stereotype of "only boys have autism").

Similarly, some Cluster-B Personality Disorders may actually be the same personality disorder, specifically narcissism and bipolar disorder, the former being more regularly diagnosed in men and the latter being more regularly diagnosed in women, even when the male and female patients are exhibiting the same symptoms.
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Quillz

Quote from: hbelkins on December 03, 2024, 12:01:08 PMI was unaware that the swastika was ever anything more than a Nazi symbol until I stumbled on a photo of an old Arizona state highway marker at some point after discovering m.t.r. back in 1995. I had no idea that the symbol had such a rich heritage that had been co-opted by the Nazis.

I've also never been diagnosed with autism or ADHD. At this point in my life (having just turned 63) I'm not sure that being diagnosed as such would have any benefit. Nor do I think such a determination would have been beneficial in my youth. They probably would have used it as an excuse to pump me full of mind-altering drugs.

Who was the poster who announced that he had no interest whatsoever in roads? Was that P13?
The swastika is very old and can be seen in many cultures, even ancient ones. 

Molandfreak

Quote from: Quillz on December 03, 2024, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 03, 2024, 12:01:08 PMI was unaware that the swastika was ever anything more than a Nazi symbol until I stumbled on a photo of an old Arizona state highway marker at some point after discovering m.t.r. back in 1995. I had no idea that the symbol had such a rich heritage that had been co-opted by the Nazis.

I've also never been diagnosed with autism or ADHD. At this point in my life (having just turned 63) I'm not sure that being diagnosed as such would have any benefit. Nor do I think such a determination would have been beneficial in my youth. They probably would have used it as an excuse to pump me full of mind-altering drugs.

Who was the poster who announced that he had no interest whatsoever in roads? Was that P13?
The swastika is very old and can be seen in many cultures, even ancient ones.
Other associations with the swastika should still be taken into account today: the Jain religion utilizes it prominently in its symbology and has for centuries. I don't usually like the term cultural appropriation--it is an overused term that demonizes sharing and borrowing from other cultures that has occurred benignly throughout history, but the swastika's association with the NSDAP is really an example of it occurring in a negative way.

Of course, not all uses of it outside the developed world are ok. The anti-Black Indo-Ar**n Brotherhood movement was perfectly fine with the NSDAP's usage of it as long as targeted individuals didn't extend to North India.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

Rothman

Link doesn't help explain the point made?
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Voyager

Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.

I don't think users starting their own "in one" fictional thread has ever been viewed as trollish.  Most of those are pretty self aware and good humored. 

Roadgeekteen

My Roadgeekteen in one thread started off pretty bad but got pretty tame by the end as I started just making my own googlemymaps and posting them. The predecesor is the now locked roadgeekteen's interstate highway system which was pretty wild but probably not as wild as P13 in one thread (I just read a bunch of that, quite a read)!
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Molandfreak

Quote from: Rothman on December 03, 2024, 04:29:30 PMLink doesn't help explain the point made?
Paragraph 11-15, actually a misquote of the book South African Gandhi: Stretcher-Bearer of Empire explains Mahatma Gandhi's activism in South Africa as part of his belief in the "Ar**n Brotherhood," more accurately described as the Indo-Ar**n Brotherhood--a belief that North Indians and Caucasians belonged to a higher social order than Black South Africans because of their common ethnolinguistic background. It's a complicated topic that I maybe shouldn't have posted about since it has the potential to be controversial, but the point is that everything in history (including symbology such as the swastika) should be taken with proper context.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

LilianaUwU

Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
the what now
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Rothman

Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 03, 2024, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
the what now

Stop right there.
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PNWRoadgeek

Somehow I know more about the Bbarr than Jake Bear. Wasn't it created by some guy named Voyager? I've seen his posts around the forum, especially in the Pacific Southwest sub-board.
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Molandfreak

Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on December 03, 2024, 06:50:17 PMSomehow I know more about the Bbarr than Jake Bear. Wasn't it created by some guy named Voyager? I've seen his posts around the forum, especially in the Pacific Southwest sub-board.
Voyager brought it up.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

vdeane

Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 03, 2024, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
the what now
The original has been lost to time, but the OP can be read by hovering over the thread title on the very first snapshot of what became the OT forum on the Wayback Machine.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Molandfreak

Quote from: vdeane on December 03, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 03, 2024, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
the what now
The original has been lost to time, but the OP can be read by hovering over the thread title on the very first snapshot of what became the OT forum on the Wayback Machine.
When did voyager become V'Ger? Did the mods need to change the deleted account's name for them to register their new account?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

hotdogPi

Quote from: Molandfreak on December 03, 2024, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 03, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 03, 2024, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
the what now
The original has been lost to time, but the OP can be read by hovering over the thread title on the very first snapshot of what became the OT forum on the Wayback Machine.
When did voyager become V'Ger? Did the mods need to change the deleted account's name for them to register their new account?

V'Ger has had that name the entire time I've been on the forum. I joined in 2013. It's also the same account; it was only banned, not deleted.
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Molandfreak

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Quote from: hotdogPi on December 03, 2024, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on December 03, 2024, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 03, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 03, 2024, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Voyager on December 03, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2024, 10:41:50 PMThis thread made me realize I gave myself the label of troll by creating my own "in one thread", well, thread.

At least you didn't start the famed bbarr.
the what now
The original has been lost to time, but the OP can be read by hovering over the thread title on the very first snapshot of what became the OT forum on the Wayback Machine.
When did voyager become V'Ger? Did the mods need to change the deleted account's name for them to register their new account?

V'Ger has had that name the entire time I've been on the forum. I joined in 2013. It's also the same account; it was only banned, not deleted.
I remember some of the Voyager account's earlier posts were initially attributed to a deleted V'Ger account, but the attribution seems to have been merged. Or am I misremembering this? @Scott5114

EDIT: Never mind, you appear to be right.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

Scott5114

V'Ger is a reference to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Someone changed the account display name to that at some point to be funny (can't remember if it was me or Jake Bear that did that). I think it had an avatar of Neelix from Star Trek: Voyager for a while as well (that one was probably me). It was done just to vent frustration while we were trying to bring the forum back up; there wasn't any technical reason for it.
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Max Rockatansky

I just assumed the V'Ger to Voyager name change was just a reference to the plot reveal in the first Star Trek movie. 



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