Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana

[silverback1065]

they arent done designing it.

[ChimpOnTheWheel]

Which is what makes Exit 200 on the northeast side not make sense. It will not be 37 miles around the 465 beltway to connect the two I-69 interchanges. Yeah, making it 200 is easier on those who remember it as 0 and so on. INDOT as usual thinks people will care less about the technicality. It does make it harder if you want to see how long I-69 will be across the state. With most interstates that use mileage-based exits you can look at the last exit and make a guess as to how long. With I-69, it will not be close to 357 miles in length.

INDOT did that to lessen possible confusion when all of the MPs and interchange numbers were changed on the existing I-69 northeast of I-465 - just add 200 to each of them.

Mike

Exactly, Mike.

BTW, this is why I objected to the entire "southern extension" project being called I-69 in the first place. The Indy to Evansville to Memphis portion SHOULD HAVE been designated as I-63, with sections further south and west being assigned appropriate  numbers that fit into the original grid. And yes, the W-E Lansing to Port Huron/Sarnia stretch should not be I-69 either (I-98 would've fit). But that's all water under the (Blue Water) bridge at this point.

They wanted a single number running border to border. That's why it's all I-69.

I-69 makes sense up til Memphis imho. South of Memphis, I would've designated I-69 via I-40 and decommissioned I-30 (east of Texarkana) and I-369's entirety. The current I-69 via Mississippi and all can be I-63. But alas, that's all fictional territory.

[SSR_317]

Nope. It won't be under construction for another couple of years at least.

Someone likely confused recent construction along I-465 in that vicinity with work on the future I-69 interchange.

[abqtraveler]

Nope. It won’t be under construction for another couple of years at least.

Someone likely confused recent construction along I-465 in that vicinity with work on the future I-69 interchange.

INDOT has plans to reconstruct and widen the whole southern leg of I-465. That construction will be happening at the same time they'll be building the new interchange for I-69. Last I heard is the I-69 interchange with I-465 is scheduled to start construction in 2021 with completion scheduled for 2024.

[Ryctor2018]

For those folks in central Indiana later this month (I'm not), INDOT is holding public meetings for section 6 information. https://t.co/EVUkQkWLKl. Three dates this month.

[ITB]

Today, October 9th, was the date the bids were to be opened for the mainline Martinsville segment (Contract R -33493-A). Two week ago, however, INDOT withdrew the contract from the letting schedule. No reason was given, but given the size and complexity of the contract it shouldn't be a surprise the letting date has been pushed back. At this time, the letting of Contract R -33493-A has not been rescheduled.

If the contract is let before the end of the year, which will most likely happen, little or no delay in the Martinsville segment's completion date should be expected as construction will still commence, as before, in the spring of 2020. That is, barring any further delays. Additional details about the contract letting and updated construction schedule will likely be provided at the Morgan County I-69 Section 6 Project Update meeting, to be held Monday, October 21 at Martinsville High School.

Link: INDOT Notice of Contract# R -33493-A Letting Withdraw: https://www.in.gov/dot/div/contracts/letting/archive/2019/oct09/withdraw%20R-33493-A.PDF

[ITB]

Today, October 9th, was the date the bids were to be opened for the mainline Martinsville segment (Contract R -33493-A). Two week ago, however, INDOT withdrew the contract from the letting schedule. No reason was given, but given the size and complexity of the contract it shouldn't be a surprise the letting date has been pushed back. At this time, the letting of Contract R -33493-A has not been rescheduled.

Update. The letting of Contract R-33493-A has been rescheduled for November 14th. Apparently, due to revisions of the contract, INDOT wanted to ensure bidders had enough time to review the changes and adjust their bids, if necessary. So the letting date was pushed out a month.

Link: Indiana Department of Transportation Notice to Highway Contractors (Contract R-33493-A): https://www.in.gov/dot/div/contracts/letting/archive/2019/nov14/20191114-R33493A-NTC.PDF

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[IndyAgent]

Since it looks like I69 will be called exit 163 once it reaches 465 and it will be Exit 5 on 465 and 37 on 465 when 69 goes north. it will be 5 miles that disappear once it reaches Exit 200. It may not be a big deal but I wish they would correct this because the mileage will be incorrect on north 69

[sprjus4]

Since it looks like I69 will be called exit 163 once it reaches 465 and it will be Exit 5 on 465 and 37 on 465 when 69 goes north. it will be 5 miles that disappear once it reaches Exit 200. It may not be a big deal but I wish they would correct this because the mileage will be incorrect on north 69

Not worth adding just 5 miles onto the exit numbers with all the confusion that would occur IMO. Seems solely a road-geek thing that doesn't affect the motoring public much.

[tdindy88]

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.

[2trailertrucker]

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.

While this adjustment would cost INDOT thousands of dollars, the billboard company's would make money over this!

[X99]

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.

If I-69's concurrency runs around the northwest side of I-465 instead, that number increases to 195. I also tried to have it follow and replace I-865, but even with a new full interchange at I-65/I-865, it's too long, increasing to 202.

[sprjus4]

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.

If I-69's concurrency runs around the northwest side of I-465 instead, that number increases to 195. I also tried to have it follow and replace I-865, but even with a new full interchange at I-65/I-865, it's too long, increasing to 202.

Seems like a completely out-of-way routing as opposed to the existing direct connection.

[X99]

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.

If I-69's concurrency runs around the northwest side of I-465 instead, that number increases to 195. I also tried to have it follow and replace I-865, but even with a new full interchange at I-65/I-865, it's too long, increasing to 202.

Seems like a completely out-of-way routing as opposed to the existing direct connection.

I'm going for less concurrencies here. On I-465,
Between SR 37 and US 31: 4 routes, not counting 37 (since it will be decommissioned), 465 (main route number), or 69 (indeterminate location)
Between US 31 and I-65: 5 routes
Between I-65 and I-74: 5 routes
Between I-74 and US 52: 4 routes
Between US 52 and US 40: 6 routes
Between US 40 and I-70: 5 routes
Between I-70 and US 36: 5 routes
Between US 36 and I-69: 3 routes
Between I-69 and US 31: 3 routes
Between US 31 and US 421: 2 routes
Between US 421 and I-865: 1 route
Between I-865 and I-65: No concurrencies
Between I-65 and I-74/US 136: No concurrencies
Between I-74/US 136 and US 36: 1 route
Between US 36 and US 40: 2 routes
Between US 40 and I-70: 3 routes
Between I-70 and SR 67: 3 routes
Between SR 67 and SR 37: 4 routes

There's sign spaghetti or unsigned routes on the southeast side and almost nothing to sign on the northwest side.

[ibthebigd]

Have Gas Stations restaurant's ect started popping up on exits  on the section between Evansville and Blomington?

SM-G950U

[ilpt4u]

Have Gas Stations restaurant's ect started popping up on exits  on the section between Evansville and Blomington?

SM-G950U

Last time I drove it...buy gas in Evansville, Washington, or Bloomington

I believe a truck stop has popped up at the exit for Crane...maybe the US 231 Exit? Either that or the IN SR 45 Exit...its been a few months since I made that trip. Will do it again around Christmastime, tho

InDOT could help out...like, idk, giving I-69 North an Indy or Bloomington Control, instead of no Control...not quite as attractive to drivers on I-64 when signed with a Shield and Greenout

[LM117]

Have Gas Stations restaurant's ect started popping up on exits  on the section between Evansville and Blomington?

SM-G950U

InDOT could help out...like, idk, giving I-69 North an Indy or Bloomington Control, instead of no Control...not quite as attractive to drivers on I-64 when signed with a Shield and Greenout

Using both Bloomington AND Indianapolis would be the way to go, IMO.

[2trailertrucker]

Have Gas Stations restaurant's ect started popping up on exits  on the section between Evansville and Blomington?

SM-G950U

Last time I drove it...buy gas in Evansville, Washington, or Bloomington

I believe a truck stop has popped up at the exit for Crane...maybe the US 231 Exit? Either that or the IN SR 45 Exit...its been a few months since I made that trip. Will do it again around Christmastime, tho

That is it. A small truck stop at US 231 and a few at Washington, but you have to drive about a mile to them.

InDOT could help out...like, idk, giving I-69 North an Indy or Bloomington Control, instead of no Control...not quite as attractive to drivers on I-64 when signed with a Shield and Greenout

[ilpt4u]

It may be a mile or so from the I-69 exit in Washington, but that Casey's on US 50/150 is fairly new and pretty nice...

Just sayin...

[Revive 755]

I'm going for less concurrencies here. On I-465,
Between SR 37 and US 31: 4 routes, not counting 37 (since it will be decommissioned), 465 (main route number), or 69 (indeterminate location)

Decommissioned or given a very long secret multiplex with I-69 between Bloomington and Fishers?

[X99]

I'm going for less concurrencies here. On I-465,
Between SR 37 and US 31: 4 routes, not counting 37 (since it will be decommissioned), 465 (main route number), or 69 (indeterminate location)

Decommissioned or given a very long secret multiplex with I-69 between Bloomington and Fishers?

37 will not be signed on the Martinsville segment. Looks like 37 will be decommissioned between the 2 splits with 69.

[SW Indiana]

Have Gas Stations restaurant's ect started popping up on exits  on the section between Evansville and Blomington?

SM-G950U

There is a gas station at exit 87, just off US 231 to the east. There is also a hotel that opened within the past few weeks as well.

At Washington (62), there is currently a Hucks under construction to the west, along US 50 at Gateway Drive.

[tdindy88]

They got a hotel at US 231 and I-69? Is that area that popular? 

Also on gas stations, there's one maybe a mile or two east of of the interstate on SR 64 in Oakland City. There's also a station at the intersection of SR 68 and SR 57 about a mile east of Exit 22.

[sparker]

I'm going for less concurrencies here. On I-465,
Between SR 37 and US 31: 4 routes, not counting 37 (since it will be decommissioned), 465 (main route number), or 69 (indeterminate location)

Decommissioned or given a very long secret multiplex with I-69 between Bloomington and Fishers?

37 will not be signed on the Martinsville segment. Looks like 37 will be decommissioned between the 2 splits with 69.

So that'll give IN 3 widely separated sections of IN 37?  One would think that INDOT would seriously consider renumbering the northern two segments, seeing as how they've essentially been truncated beyond recognition as a through route. 

[Revive 755]

They got a hotel at US 231 and I-69? Is that area that popular?

Maybe not right around the interchange, but it could be a good spot to handle demand when all the hotels at Bloomington are filled, as well as any need for Crane.