Title: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: froggie on January 09, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
Post by: froggie on January 09, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2017/jan/09/roads-agency-eyes-new-name-20170109-1/
In the article, AHTD's current director calls the agency's name "redundant" and "antiquated." Changing the name was also recommended by a legislative task force.
The article doesn't make any suggestions or note recommendations on what to rename the agency to.
In the article, AHTD's current director calls the agency's name "redundant" and "antiquated." Changing the name was also recommended by a legislative task force.
The article doesn't make any suggestions or note recommendations on what to rename the agency to.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on January 09, 2017, 12:40:43 PM
Post by: US71 on January 09, 2017, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: froggie on January 09, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2017/jan/09/roads-agency-eyes-new-name-20170109-1/
In the article, AHTD's current director calls the agency's name "redundant" and "antiquated." Changing the name was also recommended by a legislative task force.
The article doesn't make any suggestions or note recommendations on what to rename the agency to.
ADOT: Arkansas Dept of Transportation is most likely.
I'm still waiting for AHTD to send me a hat for all the errors I've corrected ;)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: cjk374 on January 09, 2017, 07:24:47 PM
Post by: cjk374 on January 09, 2017, 07:24:47 PM
Maybe ARDOT?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Road Hog on January 09, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
Post by: Road Hog on January 09, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 09, 2017, 07:24:47 PM
Maybe ARDOT?
I like that better.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: mvak36 on January 09, 2017, 10:41:35 PM
Post by: mvak36 on January 09, 2017, 10:41:35 PM
Ministry of Transport :sombrero: :-P
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 09, 2017, 10:54:07 PM
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 09, 2017, 10:54:07 PM
Arkansas Department Highway Division
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2017, 11:02:32 PM
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2017, 11:02:32 PM
TfAR -- transport for Arkansas. Shameless ripoff but whatevs
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on January 09, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
Post by: US71 on January 09, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
Department of Viatology
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Anthony_JK on January 10, 2017, 08:04:08 AM
Post by: Anthony_JK on January 10, 2017, 08:04:08 AM
Funny, but Louisiana seems to get by pretty well using Department of Transportation and Development (LADOTD). What's Arkansas's problem with that?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: mvak36 on January 10, 2017, 08:40:06 AM
Post by: mvak36 on January 10, 2017, 08:40:06 AM
Quote from: US71 on January 09, 2017, 11:15:31 PMDepartment of Viatology
I like yours haha (after I Googled what it means).
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on January 10, 2017, 09:22:09 AM
Post by: US71 on January 10, 2017, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: Anthony_JK on January 10, 2017, 08:04:08 AMLead foot Bennett wants something new.
Funny, but Louisiana seems to get by pretty well using Department of Transportation and Development (LADOTD). What's Arkansas's problem with that?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: inkyatari on January 10, 2017, 09:44:09 AM
Post by: inkyatari on January 10, 2017, 09:44:09 AM
:-D
Quote from: US71 on January 09, 2017, 11:15:31 PMDepartment of Viatology
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 10, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 10, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Arkansas Roads, Rivers, and Railways.
Be sure to give staff an extra day off on September 19.
Be sure to give staff an extra day off on September 19.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jnewkirk77 on January 10, 2017, 04:53:43 PM
Post by: jnewkirk77 on January 10, 2017, 04:53:43 PM
ARTran wouldn't suck too badly.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: froggie on January 10, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
Post by: froggie on January 10, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Anthony_JKFunny, but Louisiana seems to get by pretty well using Department of Transportation and Development (LADOTD). What's Arkansas's problem with that?
Arkansas doesn't have the development arm like the Louisiana version. DOTD does more than just transportation.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: cjk374 on January 10, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
Post by: cjk374 on January 10, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 10, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Arkansas Roads, Rivers, and Railways.
Be sure to give staff an extra day off on September 19.
The only problem with that...AHTD does little to nothing with railroads. Sounds weird, but I was told this by an AHTD employee when I was helping my railroad find state grant money for signage improvements at grade crossings.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on January 10, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
Post by: US71 on January 10, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 10, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Arkansas Roads, Rivers, and Railways.
Be sure to give staff an extra day off on September 19.
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Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: vdeane on January 10, 2017, 09:49:12 PM
Post by: vdeane on January 10, 2017, 09:49:12 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 10, 2017, 08:33:40 PMArkansas Roads, Rivers, and Roundabouts?Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 10, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Arkansas Roads, Rivers, and Railways.
Be sure to give staff an extra day off on September 19.
The only problem with that...AHTD does little to nothing with railroads. Sounds weird, but I was told this by an AHTD employee when I was helping my railroad find state grant money for signage improvements at grade crossings.
So... who administers Arkansas's Section 130 money if not AHTD?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 11, 2017, 01:20:30 PM
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 11, 2017, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 10, 2017, 09:49:12 PMQuote from: cjk374 on January 10, 2017, 08:33:40 PMArkansas Roads, Rivers, and Roundabouts?Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 10, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Arkansas Roads, Rivers, and Railways.
Be sure to give staff an extra day off on September 19.
The only problem with that...AHTD does little to nothing with railroads. Sounds weird, but I was told this by an AHTD employee when I was helping my railroad find state grant money for signage improvements at grade crossings.
So... who administers Arkansas's Section 130 money if not AHTD?
Judging by the original article, the agency would have an expanded scope. But it appears that I missed one element.
Aviation, Rivers, Roads, and Railways.
Still need a holiday, or at least an annual conference, on September 19.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: M86 on January 12, 2017, 03:39:19 AM
Post by: M86 on January 12, 2017, 03:39:19 AM
I have to give him credit, he's trying to reform that department, which apparently has a f'ed connection to the state government.
Although he stole the "antiquated" thing from me when I went on about AHTD's roadway lighting policy on here. I'm OK with it! Learn from it.
Good luck though, buddy. I don't live in that state anymore, but I hope to whatever is holy that you'll fix AHTD... Or future ARDOT.
Although he stole the "antiquated" thing from me when I went on about AHTD's roadway lighting policy on here. I'm OK with it! Learn from it.
Good luck though, buddy. I don't live in that state anymore, but I hope to whatever is holy that you'll fix AHTD... Or future ARDOT.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: SP Cook on January 12, 2017, 10:00:38 AM
Post by: SP Cook on January 12, 2017, 10:00:38 AM
Most people call the highway department whatever they are used to. In my state, it was the "State Road Department" until the 1960s and most old people and not a few younger people, mostly in rural areas, still just say "the State Road". Then it was the Department of Highways until a major reshuffle of state government way back in 1985, which reduced the number of "departments" to 7 and made a clear rank structure (department, division, bureau, office) with highways demoted to a "division" within the new DOT. NO ONE says "Division of Highways: (or Division of Motor Vehicles), they still just say Department. Even the signs on the HQ buildings have never been changed. The phoney-baloney change of the "turnpike commission" to the "Economic Development, Tourism, and Parkways Authority" , which is really a seperate DOT divison, is also used by exactly nobody. Everyone still just says "turnpike commission". BTW, said authority has nothing to do with economic development or tourism, both being division in the Commerce Department.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
The DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unquie to the state of origin.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
Post by: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
The DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unquie to the state of origin.
As opposed to ODOT ;)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
Post by: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
Quote from: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PMQuote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PMThe DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unique to the state of origin.
As opposed to ODOT ;)
MDOT is open to similar objections. In principle the two-letter state abbreviation can be used as a differentiator (e.g., ALDOT), but for me personally this is a nail-on-blackboard approach, though I am fine with TxDOT and LaDOTD.
There is another possibility in a vein similar to Jake's suggestion upthread: ADfT or Arkansas Department for Transportation. And as long as we are looking at names of transportation agencies outside the US as possible templates, then depending on whether AHTD has (or can plausibly be given) broader infrastructural responsibilities, ADTC (Arkansas Department of Transportation and Communications) and ADTI (Arkansas Department of Transportation Infrastructure or Arkansas Department of Transportation and Infrastructure) come to mind as possibilities.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on April 21, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
Post by: US71 on April 21, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AMQuote from: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PMQuote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PMThe DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unique to the state of origin.
As opposed to ODOT ;)
MDOT is open to similar objections. In principle the two-letter state abbreviation can be used as a differentiator (e.g., ALDOT), but for me personally this is a nail-on-blackboard approach, though I am fine with TxDOT and LaDOTD.
There is another possibility in a vein similar to Jake's suggestion upthread: ADfT or Arkansas Department for Transportation. And as long as we are looking at names of transportation agencies outside the US as possible templates, then depending on whether AHTD has (or can plausibly be given) broader infrastructural responsibilities, ADTC (Arkansas Department of Transportation and Communications) and ADTI (Arkansas Department of Transportation Infrastructure or Arkansas Department of Transportation and Infrastructure) come to mind as possibilities.
As long as it's ADOT ...too close to IDOT and similar connotations (oops! Outside voice again)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 21, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 21, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2017, 05:15:15 PMQuote from: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AMQuote from: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PMQuote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PMThe DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unique to the state of origin.
As opposed to ODOT ;)
MDOT is open to similar objections. In principle the two-letter state abbreviation can be used as a differentiator (e.g., ALDOT), but for me personally this is a nail-on-blackboard approach, though I am fine with TxDOT and LaDOTD.
There is another possibility in a vein similar to Jake's suggestion upthread: ADfT or Arkansas Department for Transportation. And as long as we are looking at names of transportation agencies outside the US as possible templates, then depending on whether AHTD has (or can plausibly be given) broader infrastructural responsibilities, ADTC (Arkansas Department of Transportation and Communications) and ADTI (Arkansas Department of Transportation Infrastructure or Arkansas Department of Transportation and Infrastructure) come to mind as possibilities.
As long as it's ADOT ...too close to IDOT and similar connotations (oops! Outside voice again)
Wouldn't ADOT be conflicting with Arizona?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: hotdogPi on April 21, 2017, 09:28:57 PM
Post by: hotdogPi on April 21, 2017, 09:28:57 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 21, 2017, 09:23:20 PMQuote from: US71 on April 21, 2017, 05:15:15 PMQuote from: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AMQuote from: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PMQuote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PMThe DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unique to the state of origin.
As opposed to ODOT ;)
MDOT is open to similar objections. In principle the two-letter state abbreviation can be used as a differentiator (e.g., ALDOT), but for me personally this is a nail-on-blackboard approach, though I am fine with TxDOT and LaDOTD.
There is another possibility in a vein similar to Jake's suggestion upthread: ADfT or Arkansas Department for Transportation. And as long as we are looking at names of transportation agencies outside the US as possible templates, then depending on whether AHTD has (or can plausibly be given) broader infrastructural responsibilities, ADTC (Arkansas Department of Transportation and Communications) and ADTI (Arkansas Department of Transportation Infrastructure or Arkansas Department of Transportation and Infrastructure) come to mind as possibilities.
As long as it's ADOT ...too close to IDOT and similar connotations (oops! Outside voice again)
Wouldn't ADOT be conflicting with Arizona?
We already have duplicates. ODOT is one, as mentioned earlier in this quote chain.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Post by: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...
I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: hotdogPi on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Post by: hotdogPi on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.
Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:06:42 PM
Post by: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...
I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.
ARDOT would be confused with Arizona (which is AZDOT btw) ;)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 22, 2017, 02:11:39 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 22, 2017, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:06:42 PMQuote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...
I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.
ARDOT would be confused with Arizona (which is AZDOT btw) ;)
I sware I've heard them use ADOT, weird!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Post by: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 02:11:39 PMQuote from: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:06:42 PMQuote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...
I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.
ARDOT would be confused with Arizona (which is AZDOT btw) ;)
I sware I've heard them use ADOT, weird!
Quick look on the net seems to indicate ADOT and AZDOT are used somewhat interchangeably.
Alaska is ADOT&PF (Dept of Transportation & Public Facilities)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.
Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.
No shit. I'm retarded.
I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: cjk374 on April 23, 2017, 01:05:21 PM
Post by: cjk374 on April 23, 2017, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PMQuote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.
Were you thinking of Wisconsin Southern RR (WSOR)? Just a thought.
Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.
No shit. I'm retarded.
I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on April 23, 2017, 01:05:21 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.
Were you thinking of Wisconsin Southern RR (WSOR)? Just a thought.
Hmmmm, I don't think so. :-D Never even heard of WSOR. I'm just really, really stupid unfortunately.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: CtrlAltDel on April 23, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Post by: CtrlAltDel on April 23, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PMQuote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.
Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.
No shit. I'm retarded.
I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.
WS is the Coast Guard abbreviation for Wisconsin. If you've ever been boating in the state, you'll see the boats' registration numbers starting with WS.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on April 23, 2017, 05:46:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PMQuote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.
Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.
No shit. I'm retarded.
I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.
WS is the Coast Guard abbreviation for Wisconsin. If you've ever been boating in the state, you'll see the boats' registration numbers starting with WS.
Okay, good, good. I'm feeling slightly less stupid now.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Road Hog on April 24, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
Post by: Road Hog on April 24, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
ArkDOT, then.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: kphoger on April 24, 2017, 02:30:41 PM
Post by: kphoger on April 24, 2017, 02:30:41 PM
Arkansas Ministry of Roads and Wayfaring
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Scott5114 on April 24, 2017, 02:41:15 PM
Post by: Scott5114 on April 24, 2017, 02:41:15 PM
^ AMORAW is a really weird acronym, but at least it's pronounceable.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: kphoger on April 24, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
Post by: kphoger on April 24, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
AHTD as an acronym sounds like sneezing.
Arkansas Ministry of Roads: AMOR. Their logo could be a big heart.
Arkansas Ministry of Roads: AMOR. Their logo could be a big heart.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 24, 2017, 03:22:34 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 24, 2017, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 24, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
AHTD as an acronym sounds like sneezing.
Arkansas Ministry of Roads: AMOR. Their logo could be a big heart.
Ministry... Too UK.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: J N Winkler on April 24, 2017, 03:57:23 PM
Post by: J N Winkler on April 24, 2017, 03:57:23 PM
ADOR sort of works with the heart logo too (at least phonetically).
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: vdeane on April 24, 2017, 06:39:41 PM
Post by: vdeane on April 24, 2017, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on April 24, 2017, 12:41:09 PMI think I like this one the best of the ones here.
ArkDOT, then.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 24, 2017, 06:42:03 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 24, 2017, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 24, 2017, 06:39:41 PMQuote from: Road Hog on April 24, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
ArkDOT, then.
I think I like this one the best of the ones here.
Can't help but think of
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn3.whatchristianswanttoknow.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2FHow-Did-Noah-Fit-all-the-Animals-in-the-Ark.jpg&hash=61a764222a878ca6955ff3f8c09e6bacf320585c)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: mvak36 on April 27, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
Post by: mvak36 on April 27, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
The DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unquie to the state of origin.
They just changed the Nebraska Department of Roads to Nebraska DOT. https://twitter.com/NDOR/status/857630043677360128
So much for having a unique name lol.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 27, 2017, 02:07:20 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 27, 2017, 02:07:20 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on April 27, 2017, 01:29:43 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
The DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unquie to the state of origin.
They just changed the Nebraska Department of Roads to Nebraska DOT. https://twitter.com/NDOR/status/857630043677360128
So much for having a unique name lol.
Wow! :-D :clap: Just as I was saying that and they go and change it!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
Post by: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 10:27:23 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 10:27:23 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
As of, like 20 years or so ago, it was maybe not as used. But now, it's generic.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: J N Winkler on April 28, 2017, 12:04:52 PM
Post by: J N Winkler on April 28, 2017, 12:04:52 PM
I am frankly more concerned about what happens to the website parent URL than with the agency name. A rearrangement of the letters floating in the alphabet soup is one thing; however, if their website is no longer going to be at arkansashighways.com, then I have downloader scripts that need to be revised. My experience with a similar name change in New Mexico (NMSHTD to NMDOT) is that the change will occur well after the actual name change, at a seemingly random time, with no advance warning.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
Also, are they moving toward this or is it just classic talk by AHTD, just like talk about tolling I-40? I love how they overly talk about something and then just stop, and then something happens! :clap: :banghead:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Brandon on April 28, 2017, 01:43:31 PM
Post by: Brandon on April 28, 2017, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on April 24, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
ArkDOT, then.
I was thinking ArkTrans.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Post by: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
It appears that they also are involved with public transportation (according to the wiki page), but I'm not certain.
WSDOT handles a lot more than roads. They also run the ferry system, create public transportation plans, run the Amtrak train between Vancouver and Portland, amongst other things.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
It appears that they also are involved with public transportation (according to the wiki page), but I'm not certain.
WSDOT handles a lot more than roads. They also run the ferry system, create public transportation plans, run the Amtrak train between Vancouver and Portland, amongst other things.
No. AHTD is not responsible for public transportation, they leave that up to the city. For example: Little Rock, Pulaski County Rock Regional Metro or the Central Arkansas Transit Authority is directly responsible for transportation around the Central Arkansas region.
The 'Transportation' aspect of AHTD is engineering the state and interstate highways of Arkansas, and general planning as such.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: kphoger on April 28, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
Post by: kphoger on April 28, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
It appears that they also are involved with public transportation (according to the wiki page), but I'm not certain.
WSDOT handles a lot more than roads. They also run the ferry system, create public transportation plans, run the Amtrak train between Vancouver and Portland, amongst other things.
No. AHTD is not responsible for public transportation, they leave that up to the city. For example: Little Rock, Pulaski County Rock Regional Metro or the Central Arkansas Transit Authority is directly responsible for transportation around the Central Arkansas region.
The 'Transportation' aspect of AHTD is engineering the state and interstate highways of Arkansas, and general planning as such.
Then why do they state:
Quote from: Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department–Transportation Planning & Policy Division
The Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department (AHTD) has been designated as the recipient of Federal Transit Administration (FTA) programs [formerly known as the Urban Mass Transportation Administration (UMTA)] for the purpose of administering those funds in accordance with State and Federal laws, statutes, and regulations. The Public Transportation Programs Section provides day-to-day oversight, technical assistance, and fiscal management of FTA programs.
* * *
The Transit Section is responsible for administering and monitoring federal and state transit programs. Through these programs Transit Section staff provides technical and financial assistance to local agencies and governments involved in special transportation and intercity passenger service. Transportation, especially in our rural areas, is literally a lifeline to much of our state's population. The Department's goal is to help Arkansans live an independent, quality lifestyle by assisting organizations in providing safe and reliable transportation.
And why do they employ...
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 04:35:41 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 28, 2017, 04:03:20 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
It appears that they also are involved with public transportation (according to the wiki page), but I'm not certain.
WSDOT handles a lot more than roads. They also run the ferry system, create public transportation plans, run the Amtrak train between Vancouver and Portland, amongst other things.
No. AHTD is not responsible for public transportation, they leave that up to the city. For example: Little Rock, Pulaski County Rock Regional Metro or the Central Arkansas Transit Authority is directly responsible for transportation around the Central Arkansas region.
The 'Transportation' aspect of AHTD is engineering the state and interstate highways of Arkansas, and general planning as such.
Then why do they state:Quote from: Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department—Transportation Planning & Policy Division
The Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department (AHTD) has been designated as the recipient of Federal Transit Administration (FTA) programs [formerly known as the Urban Mass Transportation Administration (UMTA)] for the purpose of administering those funds in accordance with State and Federal laws, statutes, and regulations. The Public Transportation Programs Section provides day-to-day oversight, technical assistance, and fiscal management of FTA programs.
* * *
The Transit Section is responsible for administering and monitoring federal and state transit programs. Through these programs Transit Section staff provides technical and financial assistance to local agencies and governments involved in special transportation and intercity passenger service. Transportation, especially in our rural areas, is literally a lifeline to much of our state's population. The Department's goal is to help Arkansans live an independent, quality lifestyle by assisting organizations in providing safe and reliable transportation.
And why do they employ...
They may assist, but they do not provide city transit. They leave that to whatever city organization over it's transportation. I had an email:
QuoteThank you for your interest in the Department’s 30 Crossing project. As a Design-Build project, 30 Crossing will go through an 18 month procurement process before a Design-Build Agreement is executed. We anticipate beginning the procurement process late this spring which will result in a late 2018 date for an executed Agreement. Once the Agreement is executed, the Design-Builder will need to finish up final design prior to beginning construction. We anticipate construction activities to begin sometime in the first half of 2019 and be completed by the end of 2023.~ Benjermin Browning, District 6 Engineer 2016
Numerous deficiencies on the 30 Crossing corridor have been identified and are documented in the Purpose and Need statement of the 30 Crossing Planning and Environmental Linkages (PEL) Study which can be viewed at the following web address https://connectingarkansasprogram.com/interstate-30-pel-report. The primary deficiencies are mobility, safety (both highway and navigational), roadway structure and function, and bridge structure and function. The age of this facility as well as the outdated design characteristics, increasing congestion levels, and safety concerns have made improvements to this corridor a high priority for both the Department and the local MPO for many years. Funding made available through the Connecting Arkansas Program (a ½ cent sales tax for highways approved by voters in 2012) has provided the first opportunity for sufficient funding to address the majority of these deficiencies in a single project. By addressing these deficiencies now, the improvements can be made as quickly and cost effectively as possible. If deferred to a later date, the existing funding would not be available and improvements would have to be implemented as funding becomes available and would most likely be broken into numerous different projects stretched out over a 10 to 20 year time period.
Many improvement options were considered during the PEL and are documented in that Study. Other modes of transportation including improved bus service and light rail were explored. The transit study showed that even under the best case scenarios transit would not solve the mobility and safety deficiencies in the corridor and of course would do nothing to resolve the structural and functional deficiencies of the corridor. It is also important to note that the responsibility for transit planning, funding, and operations is primarily the responsibility of the local transit agency which for Central Arkansas is Rock Region Metro.
There are currently no plans to implement tolling on Little Rock freeways, however tolling is always a possibility for future improvements if sufficient support exists for such an initiative. The Department and MetroPlan have agreed to partner on a regional HOT lanes study to determine the feasibility of the use of HOT lanes to address future congestion on the freeway system. This study has not yet begun. 30 Crossing is essentially a large extended intersection as it consists of four freeway system interchanges and numerous other high volume arterial intersections in a 7-mile section. For this reason, it is not a good candidate for HOT lanes. However, any improvements made to I-30 under the 30 Crossing project would not prevent the implementation of HOT lanes in areas of the Central Arkansas freeway system that are most benefited by such lanes.
The above in red, would suggest AHTD does not partake in city transit, rather leaves it to the city planners.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: bjrush on April 29, 2017, 07:58:16 PM
Post by: bjrush on April 29, 2017, 07:58:16 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PMc5Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
It appears that they also are involved with public transportation (according to the wiki page), but I'm not certain.
WSDOT handles a lot more than roads. They also run the ferry system, create public transportation plans, run the Amtrak train between Vancouver and Portland, amongst other things.
No. AHTD is not responsible for public transportation, they leave that up to the city. For example: Little Rock, Pulaski County Rock Regional Metro or the Central Arkansas Transit Authority is directly responsible for transportation around the Central Arkansas region.
The 'Transportation' aspect of AHTD is engineering the state and interstate highways of Arkansas, and general planning as such.
What about Razorback Transit and Ozark Regional Transit?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on April 30, 2017, 10:32:01 PM
Post by: US71 on April 30, 2017, 10:32:01 PM
ARDOT will be the new name
SM-G930V
SM-G930V
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: kphoger on May 01, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
Post by: kphoger on May 01, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 30, 2017, 10:32:01 PM
ARDOT will be the new name
Which, as an acronym, will sound like RDOT.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on May 01, 2017, 01:11:32 PM
Post by: US71 on May 01, 2017, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 01, 2017, 01:09:51 PMQuote from: US71 on April 30, 2017, 10:32:01 PM
ARDOT will be the new name
Which, as an acronym, will sound like RDOT.
That's OUR dot, not your dot
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: ColossalBlocks on May 02, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Post by: ColossalBlocks on May 02, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
ArkTrans.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 08, 2017, 11:10:05 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 08, 2017, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: bjrush on April 29, 2017, 07:58:16 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PMc5Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 02:01:28 PMQuote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2017, 01:48:28 PMQuote from: Henry on April 28, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
Specifically with NDOR, they had to change the name because they handled more than roads.
AHTD could keep the same name (because transportation is still in the name), but perhaps they're looking for some more 21st-century (something implying "we do more than just roads").
That's all they do though...
It appears that they also are involved with public transportation (according to the wiki page), but I'm not certain.
WSDOT handles a lot more than roads. They also run the ferry system, create public transportation plans, run the Amtrak train between Vancouver and Portland, amongst other things.
No. AHTD is not responsible for public transportation, they leave that up to the city. For example: Little Rock, Pulaski County Rock Regional Metro or the Central Arkansas Transit Authority is directly responsible for transportation around the Central Arkansas region.
The 'Transportation' aspect of AHTD is engineering the state and interstate highways of Arkansas, and general planning as such.
What about Razorback Transit and Ozark Regional Transit?
I don't know how well that communicates the message of a state transportation department agency.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on May 08, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
Post by: US71 on May 08, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: bjrush on April 29, 2017, 07:58:16 PM
What about Razorback Transit and Ozark Regional Transit?
FAIL. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
When is the name set or expected to change? Any further details regarding this matter?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on May 09, 2017, 09:20:06 AM
Post by: US71 on May 09, 2017, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
When is the name set or expected to change? Any further details regarding this matter?
I've heard July and I've heard end of the year
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 09, 2017, 09:20:06 AMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
When is the name set or expected to change? Any further details regarding this matter?
I've heard July and I've heard end of the year
Well, I guess we'll see when we see! I hope they do it at the year's end rather than right in the middle of it! Oh wait! Most of us refer to it as 'The Highway Department', so I don't think anyone will be phased by this either aburped or gradual transition.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Road Hog on May 09, 2017, 12:50:27 PM
Post by: Road Hog on May 09, 2017, 12:50:27 PM
Can AHTD just change its name at the drop of a hat? Doesn't it require legislative action, possibly even a constitutional amendment?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 01:03:33 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 09, 2017, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on May 09, 2017, 12:50:27 PM
Can AHTD just change its name at the drop of a hat? Doesn't it require legislative action, possibly even a constitutional amendment?
I would not know if the state transportation designation is within our state constitution, but it will require legislative action.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: bjrush on May 11, 2017, 10:56:58 PM
Post by: bjrush on May 11, 2017, 10:56:58 PM
Apparently most of you are ignorant of how public transit works in Arkansas. Let me spell it out for you
So yes the AHTD is involved with transit.
For the record, Razorback Transit and Ozark Regional Transit are the names of two transit authorities in Arkansas. They weren't suggestions for renaming AHTD. Of course you would know that if you had some knowledge about transit in this state
QuoteThe Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department (Department) became actively involved in transit programs with the passage
of Arkansas Act 192 of 1977. This Act gave the Department responsibilities for administering public transportation programs in Arkansas.
From this Act, the Department became involved with the Section 5310: Enhanced Mobility of Seniors and Individuals with Disabilities and
the Section 5311: Rural Areas Public Transportation programs. During the late 1970's and early 1980's, the Department established seven
rural transit systems and funded vehicles for non‐profit human service agencies providing transportation service to seniors and the
disabled. Today there are eight urbanized and nine rural public transit systems providing service in Arkansas. In addition, approximately
200 human service agencies receive funds through the Department to support transportation services to seniors, persons with disabilities
and persons seeking employment opportunities.
Since 1965, Arkansas' transit agencies have received approximately $603 million of FTA/FHWA funds to support transit planning, training,
capital, administrative, and operating activities. Further, approximately $198 million of State and local funds have contributed to transit
operations in the State of Arkansas.
So yes the AHTD is involved with transit.
For the record, Razorback Transit and Ozark Regional Transit are the names of two transit authorities in Arkansas. They weren't suggestions for renaming AHTD. Of course you would know that if you had some knowledge about transit in this state
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 11, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 11, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
Quote from: bjrush on May 11, 2017, 10:56:58 PM
Apparently most of you are ignorant of how public transit works in Arkansas. Let me spell it out for youQuoteThe Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department (Department) became actively involved in transit programs with the passage
of Arkansas Act 192 of 1977. This Act gave the Department responsibilities for administering public transportation programs in Arkansas.
From this Act, the Department became involved with the Section 5310: Enhanced Mobility of Seniors and Individuals with Disabilities and
the Section 5311: Rural Areas Public Transportation programs. During the late 1970’s and early 1980’s, the Department established seven
rural transit systems and funded vehicles for non‐profit human service agencies providing transportation service to seniors and the
disabled. Today there are eight urbanized and nine rural public transit systems providing service in Arkansas. In addition, approximately
200 human service agencies receive funds through the Department to support transportation services to seniors, persons with disabilities
and persons seeking employment opportunities.
Since 1965, Arkansas’ transit agencies have received approximately $603 million of FTA/FHWA funds to support transit planning, training,
capital, administrative, and operating activities. Further, approximately $198 million of State and local funds have contributed to transit
operations in the State of Arkansas.
So yes the AHTD is involved with transit.
For the record, Razorback Transit and Ozark Regional Transit are the names of two transit authorities in Arkansas. They weren't suggestions for renaming AHTD. Of course you would know that if you had some knowledge about transit in this state
Not to call ignorance, just misinformed, I emailed AHTD (D-6) in regards to I-30 Expansion and the respose said that they did not directly influence public transport within Little Rock, so why would they throughout the rest of the state?
QuoteMany improvement options were considered during the PEL and are documented in that Study. Other modes of transportation including improved bus service and light rail were explored. The transit study showed that even under the best case scenarios transit would not solve the mobility and safety deficiencies in the corridor and of course would do nothing to resolve the structural and functional deficiencies of the corridor. It is also important to note that the responsibility for transit planning, funding, and operations is primarily the responsibility of the local transit agency which for Central Arkansas is Rock Region Metro. - Email Excerpt from AHTD,
Referenced: I-30 Litttle Rock Lane Expansion
I do believe the poster who referenced Razorback Transit was actually suggesting it for the redesignation of the AHTD and please, chill on being a know-it-all, as some (me) like to contribute to topics to also inform and be informed, but not to or try not to (rather) misinform users. Thanks!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on May 11, 2017, 11:43:07 PM
Post by: US71 on May 11, 2017, 11:43:07 PM
Ease up on the name calling, everyone.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: bjrush on May 12, 2017, 09:39:22 AM
Post by: bjrush on May 12, 2017, 09:39:22 AM
Sorry, not trying to be insulting. I was the poster who said Razorback Transit. I was not suggesting it as a renaming of AHTD.
Here is a new Razorback Transit bus. The system serves the UA campus and surrounding areas in Fayetteville. Bus service is free
(https://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-15-at-9.12.23-AM-716x414.jpg)
Here is the part of AHTD responsible for public transit
http://www.ahtd.arkansas.gov/public_transportation/public_transportation.aspx (http://www.ahtd.arkansas.gov/public_transportation/public_transportation.aspx)
Here is a link to the 2016 Arkansas Public Transportation Directory. It has lots of good info in it.
https://www.ahtd.state.ar.us/public_transportation/Current_PT_Directory.pdf (https://www.ahtd.state.ar.us/public_transportation/Current_PT_Directory.pdf)
Here is a new Razorback Transit bus. The system serves the UA campus and surrounding areas in Fayetteville. Bus service is free
(https://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-15-at-9.12.23-AM-716x414.jpg)
Here is the part of AHTD responsible for public transit
http://www.ahtd.arkansas.gov/public_transportation/public_transportation.aspx (http://www.ahtd.arkansas.gov/public_transportation/public_transportation.aspx)
Here is a link to the 2016 Arkansas Public Transportation Directory. It has lots of good info in it.
https://www.ahtd.state.ar.us/public_transportation/Current_PT_Directory.pdf (https://www.ahtd.state.ar.us/public_transportation/Current_PT_Directory.pdf)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: kphoger on May 12, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
Post by: kphoger on May 12, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 11, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
AHTD (D-6) ... said that they did not directly influence public transport within Little Rock, so why would they throughout the rest of the state?
Seriously? You just extrapolated what you learned about Little Rock to be true for the entire state? :banghead:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 12, 2017, 12:34:42 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 12, 2017, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 12, 2017, 11:43:32 AMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 11, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
AHTD (D-6) ... said that they did not directly influence public transport within Little Rock, so why would they throughout the rest of the state?
Seriously? You just extrapolated what you learned about Little Rock to be true for the entire state? :banghead:
It does say, "It is also important to note that the responsibility for transit planning, funding, and operations is primarily the responsibility of the local transit agency", so it is reasonable to infer that they do not get involved with city transit. If you feel me citing my own creditable source for information upsets you, you may leave this topic to gather yourself to a more professional standard for yourself.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: kphoger on May 12, 2017, 01:15:35 PM
Post by: kphoger on May 12, 2017, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
AHTD is not responsible for public transportation
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 12, 2017, 12:34:42 PMQuote from: kphoger on May 12, 2017, 11:43:32 AMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 11, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
AHTD (D-6) ... said that they did not directly influence public transport within Little Rock, so why would they throughout the rest of the state?
Seriously? You just extrapolated what you learned about Little Rock to be true for the entire state? :banghead:
It does say, "It is also important to note that the responsibility for transit planning, funding, and operations is primarily the responsibility of the local transit agency", so it is reasonable to infer that they do not get involved with city transit. If you feel me citing my own creditable source for information upsets you, you may leave this topic to gather yourself to a more professional standard for yourself.
No, leaving the primary responsibility to another agency is not the same thing as saying they do not get involved. That's sort of like saying my boss is not involved in the work I do.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 09, 2017, 12:04:25 PM
Post by: US71 on June 09, 2017, 12:04:25 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, the new AHTD (beginning July 31)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic-32.sinclairstoryline.com%2Fresources%2Fmedia%2Fbe4d49fe-a313-4f4d-b692-5c9cd340d786-large16x9_ARDOTnewlogo.jpg&hash=ba5742b922928c89d5b73e27567406d507547281)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic-32.sinclairstoryline.com%2Fresources%2Fmedia%2Fbe4d49fe-a313-4f4d-b692-5c9cd340d786-large16x9_ARDOTnewlogo.jpg&hash=ba5742b922928c89d5b73e27567406d507547281)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: I-39 on June 09, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
Post by: I-39 on June 09, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 09, 2017, 12:04:25 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, the new AHTD (beginning July 31)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic-32.sinclairstoryline.com%2Fresources%2Fmedia%2Fbe4d49fe-a313-4f4d-b692-5c9cd340d786-large16x9_ARDOTnewlogo.jpg&hash=ba5742b922928c89d5b73e27567406d507547281)
Hopefully, they will redo their website along with the new name change.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: bugo on June 09, 2017, 07:11:33 PM
Post by: bugo on June 09, 2017, 07:11:33 PM
AKDOT
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 09, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 09, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Classic DOT font! :clap: :-D :D
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2017, 12:01:36 AM
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2017, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 09, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Classic DOT font!
No kidding. Very 80s-esque, with the gaps in the letter shapes, and the italicisation. I'm not a fan.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 12:42:03 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 12:42:03 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2017, 12:01:36 AMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 09, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Classic DOT font!
No kidding. Very 80s-esque, with the gaps in the letter shapes, and the italicisation. I'm not a fan.
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't FL:DOT have a similar style? I am not bringning this up out of a "conflict of interest" need, but merely a choice in style for AH-Ahem AR:DOT.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2017, 03:25:37 AM
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2017, 03:25:37 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 12:42:03 AMQuote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2017, 12:01:36 AMQuote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 09, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Classic DOT font!
No kidding. Very 80s-esque, with the gaps in the letter shapes, and the italicisation. I'm not a fan.
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't FL:DOT have a similar style? I am not bringning this up out of a "conflict of interest" need, but merely a choice in style for AH-Ahem AR:DOT.
FDOT has large "DOT" letters, but they're not italicised. They too use the state shape, but it's off to the right. All told, similar, but not really dead-ringing similar.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 03:51:10 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 03:51:10 AM
It seems they cheaped out on this design! I like the AHTD logo for the effort in the lettering. I could make their new logo in Inkscape!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: english si on June 10, 2017, 06:45:54 AM
Post by: english si on June 10, 2017, 06:45:54 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 24, 2017, 03:22:34 PMMinistry... Too UK.We renamed Ministries as Departments a long time ago (60s?) and most were never called that: Home Office, Office of Foreign Affairs, HM Treasury (OK, those three are special ones), War Office (now Department of Defense), etc. Transport is the only one I can think of that was a Ministry, and Transport Minister is about the only Minister with a Department that isn't <x> Secretary, despite - like all the others (save Chancellor), having the official title of Secretary of State for <x>, which might get termed Minister for <x>.
To be good and UK-esque, there were the following options:
Department for Transport (the Ministerial department, which is GB-wide but with very limited powers over Wales and Scotland as Transport is devolved)
Transport Arkansas (cf Wales, Scotland)
Transport for Arkansas (cf London, Greater Manchester, Buckinghamshire)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 10, 2017, 09:02:42 AM
Post by: US71 on June 10, 2017, 09:02:42 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 03:51:10 AM
It seems they cheaped out on this design! I like the AHTD logo for the effort in the lettering. I could make their new logo in Inkscape!
Maybe someone did ;)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Bobby5280 on June 10, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
Post by: Bobby5280 on June 10, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
The "DOT" lettering is indeed a bit dated looking, like 80's sci-fi or something. What makes this logo worse is their insistence of including tiny "Arkansas Department of Transportation" lettering into the design and making the Arkansas state shape too complicated. Both of those choices will limit this logo only being set at relatively large sizes. You can't shrink it to a small size in a layout without a bunch of the details turning into illegible mud. The state shape looks like it was retrieved from an element of geography clip art. They could have done something more creative with it (and simplify that Mississippi River coast line in the process).
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
I wonder how long it'll take them to rebrand the fleet vehicles with the new logo. :hmmm:
Do you think they'll phase them out? I have my doubts, because I saw a dodge truck going down going down Garrison Avenue. It looked in style. Not like the fleet of Fords used by District 6.
Do you think they'll phase them out? I have my doubts, because I saw a dodge truck going down going down Garrison Avenue. It looked in style. Not like the fleet of Fords used by District 6.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 05:02:10 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on June 10, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
The "DOT" lettering is indeed a bit dated looking, like 80's sci-fi or something. What makes this logo worse is their insistence of including tiny "Arkansas Department of Transportation" lettering into the design and making the Arkansas state shape too complicated. Both of those choices will limit this logo only being set at relatively large sizes. You can't shrink it to a small size in a layout without a bunch of the details turning into illegible mud. The state shape looks like it was retrieved from an element of geography clip art. They could have done something more creative with it (and simplify that Mississippi River coast line in the process).
I hope this design is still concept art! If so, I could send some of my own concepts their way. Hehe.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 10, 2017, 05:39:20 PM
Post by: US71 on June 10, 2017, 05:39:20 PM
They still owe me a hat for all the sign corrections I've sent them :spin:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Bobby5280 on June 11, 2017, 12:43:23 AM
Post by: Bobby5280 on June 11, 2017, 12:43:23 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeekI wonder how long it'll take them to rebrand the fleet vehicles with the new logo.
With this design, all the vinyl graphics will have to be digitally printed and probably sport white backgrounds. That will kind of stink if a bunch of their vehicles are not white. They might be able to get by applying a contour cut white outline around the whole thing.
Doing traditional computer cut vinyl with that artwork would be a nightmare. If we're talking about normal logos on vehicle doors the "Arkansas Department of Transportation" lettering would be microscopic and very difficult to weed out of a roll of cut vinyl. The same goes for the state shape with the overly complex coast details.
Obviously this new logo was designed by someone with little, if any experience doing any sign work. I have quite a lot of experience working with vinyl graphics (designing it, cutting it, weeding it and applying it). When you're familiar with the limitations involved in vinyl graphics and familiar with legibility requirements of outdoor signs you'll do more than merely think about what looks cool on the computer screen.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 10:42:08 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 10:42:08 AM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on June 11, 2017, 12:43:23 AMOur fleet vehicles are white! :banghead: :sombrero: :clap:Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeekI wonder how long it'll take them to rebrand the fleet vehicles with the new logo.
With this design, all the vinyl graphics will have to be digitally printed and probably sport white backgrounds. That will kind of stink if a bunch of their vehicles are not white. They might be able to get by applying a contour cut white outline around the whole thing.
Doing traditional computer cut vinyl with that artwork would be a nightmare. If we're talking about normal logos on vehicle doors the "Arkansas Department of Transportation" lettering would be microscopic and very difficult to weed out of a roll of cut vinyl. The same goes for the state shape with the overly complex coast details.
Obviously this new logo was designed by someone with little, if any experience doing any sign work. I have quite a lot of experience working with vinyl graphics (designing it, cutting it, weeding it and applying it). When you're familiar with the limitations involved in vinyl graphics and familiar with legibility requirements of outdoor signs you'll do more than merely think about what looks cool on the computer screen.
I wish they would have thought of something cool, like a quality of Arkansas to display, as well and obviously a better state silhouette. Why didn't they reused the one from the AHTD logo and change the color? :confused: :banghead:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 11, 2017, 12:33:21 PM
Post by: US71 on June 11, 2017, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 10:42:08 AMQuote from: Bobby5280 on June 11, 2017, 12:43:23 AMOur fleet vehicles are white! :banghead: :sombrero: :clap:Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeekI wonder how long it'll take them to rebrand the fleet vehicles with the new logo.
With this design, all the vinyl graphics will have to be digitally printed and probably sport white backgrounds. That will kind of stink if a bunch of their vehicles are not white. They might be able to get by applying a contour cut white outline around the whole thing.
Doing traditional computer cut vinyl with that artwork would be a nightmare. If we're talking about normal logos on vehicle doors the "Arkansas Department of Transportation" lettering would be microscopic and very difficult to weed out of a roll of cut vinyl. The same goes for the state shape with the overly complex coast details.
Obviously this new logo was designed by someone with little, if any experience doing any sign work. I have quite a lot of experience working with vinyl graphics (designing it, cutting it, weeding it and applying it). When you're familiar with the limitations involved in vinyl graphics and familiar with legibility requirements of outdoor signs you'll do more than merely think about what looks cool on the computer screen.
I wish they would have thought of something cool, like a quality of Arkansas to display, as well and obviously a better state silhouette. Why didn't they reused the one from the AHTD logo and change the color? :confused: :banghead:
It would take thought?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 11, 2017, 12:33:21 PMWell, just like Bobby mentioned in the I-69 in Arkansas thread, they already have tons of assets for any further graphic design needs. They just need to use them. To me that is 't to much thinking time taken up by deciding where to pull assets from.Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 10:42:08 AMQuote from: Bobby5280 on June 11, 2017, 12:43:23 AMOur fleet vehicles are white! :banghead: :sombrero: :clap:Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeekI wonder how long it'll take them to rebrand the fleet vehicles with the new logo.
With this design, all the vinyl graphics will have to be digitally printed and probably sport white backgrounds. That will kind of stink if a bunch of their vehicles are not white. They might be able to get by applying a contour cut white outline around the whole thing.
Doing traditional computer cut vinyl with that artwork would be a nightmare. If we're talking about normal logos on vehicle doors the "Arkansas Department of Transportation" lettering would be microscopic and very difficult to weed out of a roll of cut vinyl. The same goes for the state shape with the overly complex coast details.
Obviously this new logo was designed by someone with little, if any experience doing any sign work. I have quite a lot of experience working with vinyl graphics (designing it, cutting it, weeding it and applying it). When you're familiar with the limitations involved in vinyl graphics and familiar with legibility requirements of outdoor signs you'll do more than merely think about what looks cool on the computer screen.
I wish they would have thought of something cool, like a quality of Arkansas to display, as well and obviously a better state silhouette. Why didn't they reused the one from the AHTD logo and change the color? :confused: :banghead:
It would take thought?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: vdeane on June 11, 2017, 05:55:25 PM
Post by: vdeane on June 11, 2017, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 10, 2017, 04:57:11 PMIf they're like NY, they won't. Our fleet still has many, many vehicles with the flying T on it. Any that say "NY State of Opportunity" were bought after Cuomo ordered nearly every agency rebranded.
I wonder how long it'll take them to rebrand the fleet vehicles with the new logo. :hmmm:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: I-39 on June 11, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
Post by: I-39 on June 11, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
What took so long for Arkansas to rename their transportation department anyway? Arkansas Highway & Transportation Department sounds very early-mid 20th century-ish.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
Post by: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
Quote from: I-39 on June 11, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
What took so long for Arkansas to rename their transportation department anyway? Arkansas Highway & Transportation Department sounds very early-mid 20th century-ish.
As the responsibilities of "highway departments" grew over time, most agencies morphed into a "transportation department", because they managed more than just highways. From the looks of things, AHTD didn't really do much more than highways, so the name stuck. Lately, it looks like they've gotten into public transport, so a more befitting name was adopted.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:25:04 PMDo you think it could also open the door for more things? Department of Transpirtation is an umbrella term.Quote from: I-39 on June 11, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
What took so long for Arkansas to rename their transportation department anyway? Arkansas Highway & Transportation Department sounds very early-mid 20th century-ish.
As the responsibilities of "highway departments" grew over time, most agencies morphed into a "transportation department", because they managed more than just highways. From the looks of things, AHTD didn't really do much more than highways, so the name stuck. Lately, it looks like they've gotten into public transport, so a more befitting name was adopted.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:36:30 PM
Post by: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:36:30 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 11, 2017, 11:31:15 PMQuote from: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:25:04 PMQuote from: I-39 on June 11, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
What took so long for Arkansas to rename their transportation department anyway? Arkansas Highway & Transportation Department sounds very early-mid 20th century-ish.
As the responsibilities of "highway departments" grew over time, most agencies morphed into a "transportation department", because they managed more than just highways. From the looks of things, AHTD didn't really do much more than highways, so the name stuck. Lately, it looks like they've gotten into public transport, so a more befitting name was adopted.
Do you think it could also open the door for more things? Department of Transpirtation is an umbrella term.
Depends on the goal of the legislature, I suppose. Also, how things are managed right now. Here in Washington, the ferries and Amtrak trains are operated by the Washington State DOT. I don't think Arkansas has either ferries or commuter rail, but if either of those things ever showed up, ArDOT already has the right name for the job.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 12:14:52 AM
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: I-39 on June 11, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
What took so long for Arkansas to rename their transportation department anyway? Arkansas Highway & Transportation Department sounds very early-mid 20th century-ish.
1977 :)
Before that was AHD in 1929 ;)
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:47 AM
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:47 AM
What's a pirate's favorite DOT, ARRRRRR dot
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:47 AM
What's a pirate's favorite DOT, ARRRRRR dot
That's not YOUR dot, that's OUR dot.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 10:45:28 AMQuote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:47 AM
What's a pirate's favorite DOT, ARRRRRR dot
That's not YOUR dot, that's OUR dot.
From ARrrrrrrrrkansas
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:30:05 AM
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!
This isn't Talk Like a Pirate Day, either.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:37:27 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:30:05 AMOnly if you're from Pirate Bay! Heh.Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!
This isn't Talk Like a Pirate Day, either.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:37:27 AMQuote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:30:05 AMOnly if you're from Pirate Bay! Heh.Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!
This isn't Talk Like a Pirate Day, either.
ArrrrDot knows how to move with cat like tread
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:45:24 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:45:24 AM
They've ARDOT has been resigning the 40 from the looks of it, in the Palaski Co area. Interesting... I wonder if they are Clearview all-the-way? I wonder if they'll default back to Highway Gothic when those Clearview signs get resigned. :hmmm:
In Little Rock, today actually! :bigass: :awesomeface:
In Little Rock, today actually! :bigass: :awesomeface:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:50:06 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 11:43:15 AMHas anyone checked to see if they switched their forum profile logo over, yet?Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:37:27 AMQuote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:30:05 AMOnly if you're from Pirate Bay! Heh.Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
When were pirates allowed on a travel/road forum? This isn't a nautical forum! Arrrrkansas isn't by a coast!
This isn't Talk Like a Pirate Day, either.
ArrrrDot knows how to move with cat like tread
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 12:55:01 PM
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:50:06 AM
Has anyone checked to see if they switched their forum profile logo over, yet?
Likely not until the official change as they may also want to change their name to ARDOT
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: MikieTimT on June 12, 2017, 01:11:23 PM
Post by: MikieTimT on June 12, 2017, 01:11:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:36:30 PM
Depends on the goal of the legislature, I suppose. Also, how things are managed right now. Here in Washington, the ferries and Amtrak trains are operated by the Washington State DOT. I don't think Arkansas has either ferries or commuter rail, but if either of those things ever showed up, ArDOT already has the right name for the job.
Arkansas does have a ferry. At Peel, AR. It crosses Bull Shoals Lake where AR/MO 125 were flooded by the lake impoundment.
https://www.arkansas.com/attractions/detail/peel-ferry/18735
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 01:38:29 PM
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on June 12, 2017, 01:11:23 PMQuote from: jakeroot on June 11, 2017, 11:36:30 PM
Depends on the goal of the legislature, I suppose. Also, how things are managed right now. Here in Washington, the ferries and Amtrak trains are operated by the Washington State DOT. I don't think Arkansas has either ferries or commuter rail, but if either of those things ever showed up, ArDOT already has the right name for the job.
Arkansas does have a ferry. At Peel, AR. It crosses Bull Shoals Lake where AR/MO 125 were flooded by the lake impoundment.
https://www.arkansas.com/attractions/detail/peel-ferry/18735
and it's free so you don't have to pay the ferryman
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 12:55:01 PMI like to imagine the rebranding of the fleet vehicles happening overnight. It amuses me.Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 11:50:06 AM
Has anyone checked to see if they switched their forum profile logo over, yet?
Likely not until the official change as they may also want to change their name to ARDOT
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: I-39 on June 12, 2017, 07:10:46 PM
Post by: I-39 on June 12, 2017, 07:10:46 PM
I guess Pirates will love this new name..........
ArrrrrrrDOT. :-D
ArrrrrrrDOT. :-D
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: vdeane on June 12, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
Post by: vdeane on June 12, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
At least it's "Arkansas Department of Transportation" rather than "Arkansas Department of Transportation, Sustainable Mobility, and Transportation Electrification" (ARDOTSMTE). And no, I didn't make that name up (https://www.transports.gouv.qc.ca/en/Pages/Home.aspx) (seriously, Québec, what's wrong with keeping it simple? MTQ is much easier to remember than MTMDET).
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 12, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 12, 2017, 07:31:32 PMI am sure they would have followed suite with the other states. With the same rebranding style anyway.
At least it's "Arkansas Department of Transportation" rather than "Arkansas Department of Transportation, Sustainable Mobility, and Transportation Electrification" (ARDOTSMTE). And no, I didn't make that name up (https://www.transports.gouv.qc.ca/en/Pages/Home.aspx) (seriously, Québec, what's wrong with keeping it simple? MTQ is much easier to remember than MTMDET).
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:36:49 PM
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 10:51:21 AMQuote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 10:45:28 AMQuote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:47 AM
What's a pirate's favorite DOT, ARRRRRR dot
That's not YOUR dot, that's OUR dot.
From ARrrrrrrrrkansas
Ourkansas?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:47:22 PM
Post by: US71 on June 12, 2017, 11:47:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:36:49 PMQuote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 10:51:21 AMQuote from: US71 on June 12, 2017, 10:45:28 AMQuote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:47 AM
What's a pirate's favorite DOT, ARRRRRR dot
That's not YOUR dot, that's OUR dot.
From ARrrrrrrrrkansas
Ourkansas?
oink-ansas
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 13, 2017, 01:10:26 AM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 13, 2017, 01:10:26 AM
Damn pirates! :banghead: Walk the plank, already! :-D :ded: :pan:
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 13, 2017, 04:05:11 AM
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 13, 2017, 04:05:11 AM
Yarrr we sailed the kerr seas, plundering booty along the river
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 04:06:22 PM
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 04:06:22 PM
How long till lock?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 13, 2017, 08:56:28 PM
Post by: SteveG1988 on June 13, 2017, 08:56:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 04:06:22 PM
How long till lock?
Yarr can only lock a pirate away for so long without his booty
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 13, 2017, 10:10:42 PM
Post by: US71 on June 13, 2017, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 04:06:22 PM
How long till lock?
Depends if we can correct the course of the conversation.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 10:15:33 PM
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 10:15:33 PM
Suggestion for locals: if you see an ArrrDOT logo pop up in the field, post it here. Any more pirate posts, and we're walkin' the plank!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: hotdogPi on June 13, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Post by: hotdogPi on June 13, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Dam Jokes lasted 5 pages.
This thread started pirate jokes on Page 5, so this thread won't be forced to walk the plank until Page 9. But when we reach Page 9, that's it. Make every post count!
This thread started pirate jokes on Page 5, so this thread won't be forced to walk the plank until Page 9. But when we reach Page 9, that's it. Make every post count!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 13, 2017, 11:07:05 PM
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 13, 2017, 11:07:05 PM
What more is there to this thread, than pirate jokes? AHTD has packed its bags and ARDOT is assuming its position.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 13, 2017, 11:31:26 PM
Post by: US71 on June 13, 2017, 11:31:26 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on June 13, 2017, 11:07:05 PM
What more is there to this thread, than pirate jokes? AHTD has packed its bags and ARDOT is assuming its position.
POINT!
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: Road Hog on June 14, 2017, 01:44:16 AM
Post by: Road Hog on June 14, 2017, 01:44:16 AM
But pirates?
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: US71 on June 14, 2017, 08:12:34 AM
Post by: US71 on June 14, 2017, 08:12:34 AM
Quote from: Road Hog on June 14, 2017, 01:44:16 AM
But pirates?
Keep this family friendly, please.
Title: Re: AHTD considering a new name
Post by: hotdogPi on June 14, 2017, 08:25:08 AM
Post by: hotdogPi on June 14, 2017, 08:25:08 AM
So the Pittsburgh Pirates are now the Arrrkansas Pirates? Little Rock Pirates?
They are bringing the Stealers (pirates are known to steal) and the Penguins (their pet companions) with them.
They are bringing the Stealers (pirates are known to steal) and the Penguins (their pet companions) with them.