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• all the bridesmaids have the exact same size dress
• the bride's veil is pinned to her shoulder
• the wedding announcement poster at the reception falls off, revealing another poster for a wedding 30 years ago
• the invitation didn't mention the exact date, but did list the next three weddings coming up

Quote from: bugo on September 21, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
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Quote from: myosh_tino on September 21, 2010, 04:25:37 PM

Quote from: bugo on September 21, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
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Sorry but I'm skeptical that that sign is real.  To me, it looks like someone had some fun with Photoshop.  If that's a real sign, it deserves a triple head bang...  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 21, 2010, 11:22:38 AM
Nothing is as bad as the acorn shield, which I will not show, on general principle.  We all know what it looks like.

Quote from: Bickendan on September 21, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
And here I thought you liked the old cut-out Oregon shields :(

Quote from: PAHighways on September 21, 2010, 02:43:56 PM
At the turn of the Century, there were a rash of ugly US shields spreading across Pennsylvania with US 6 (http://www.gribblenation.net/penna/northwest/warren/funky6on6e.jpg), US 30 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Latrobe,+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.38984,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Latrobe,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.283133,-79.40289&spn=0.000951,0.002411&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.283149,-79.402782&panoid=4PY43suCQISnDu30-CFdPw&cbp=12,128.27,,0,-0.71), and US 322 (http://www.gribblenation.net/penna/central/centre/220sc322.jpg) as some of the routes affected. 

Quote from: doofy103 on September 21, 2010, 05:02:10 PM
can we also add road signs that are just in bad condition from being old?

Quote from: doofy103 on September 21, 2010, 05:02:10 PM
can we also add road signs that are just in bad condition from being old?

Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 21, 2010, 03:28:59 PM
@Will(Synthetic Dreamer)-  I thought the first photo you would have posted this thread in t would have been one of these from Hopewell lol   :nod:

Quote from: Bickendan on September 22, 2010, 12:05:22 AM
FL Negative 2, nice.

I'm surprised there isn't a -1 somewhere. Just think of that gut-wrenching horrible pun: Route Negative One.

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Behold...Frankensign!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv317%2Fteamragnarok%2FIMG_0001.jpg&hash=122b221fb9fe54601f3444621ff1a20bdd57d3dc)

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 23, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
What the hell were they thinking?!

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Behold...Frankensign!

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 09:34:29 PM

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 23, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
What the hell were they thinking?!

If you go back up to my original post on the sign, it's a combination of laziness, bad luck, and lack of funds.

The nearby Exit 186 gore point sign is also a frequent victim of people hitting it trying to cut across onto the I-195 SB ramp. Instead of moving it to a safer location or building guardrails to block this movement, they just keep putting the sign back up in the same place again and again. It's been knocked down at least 10 times since it was installed in February!

Quote from: architect77 on September 23, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
I'm sorry, but this isn't an overhead, it's stupid looking...
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Quote from: Tarkus on September 24, 2010, 02:58:12 AM
Arial font signs are a pet peeve of mine. :ded:

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Behold...Frankensign!

Quote from: Brandon on September 24, 2010, 10:42:01 AM

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Behold...Frankensign!

Damn!  Not only is the patch just terrible, but the exit number appears to be a replacement as well.

Quote from: AARoads on September 24, 2010, 11:49:19 AM
Wacky Alabama shields really take the cake.  :ded:

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Quote from: codyg1985 on September 24, 2010, 01:44:35 PM

Quote from: AARoads on September 24, 2010, 11:49:19 AM
Wacky Alabama shields really take the cake.  :ded:

It looks like they chopped Alabama off at around Montgomery and kept everything south of it.

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 24, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
And Oklahoma introduced such a shield in 2006, 45 years after the recommendation was made!

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 25, 2010, 04:17:07 AM
good to see Australia using greenout ... even on black signs!  :-D

Quote from: ausinterkid on September 26, 2010, 06:29:35 AM
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Quote from: Scott5114 on September 23, 2010, 09:15:57 PM

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Behold...Frankensign!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv317%2Fteamragnarok%2FIMG_0001.jpg&hash=122b221fb9fe54601f3444621ff1a20bdd57d3dc)

What the hell were they thinking?!

Quote from: ausinterkid on September 28, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
No, um, Wellington is a town in New South Wales...
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wellington+nsw&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=34.997058,56.162109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Wellington+New+South+Wales&ll=-33.183537,149.990845&spn=2.050354,5.603027&z=8 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wellington+nsw&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=34.997058,56.162109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Wellington+New+South+Wales&ll=-33.183537,149.990845&spn=2.050354,5.603027&z=8)

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 07, 2010, 09:29:11 PM
Gross. Who even thought that was a good idea?

Quote from: J N Winkler on October 11, 2010, 03:36:12 AM
blah blah horrific plan blah blah Clearview blah blah blah Clearview blah blah engineer with too much time on his hands and did I mention it's fucking Clearview?  Enough to make you cry, isn't it? Clearview

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 11, 2010, 11:03:31 AM
Someone at PennDOT is a MORON.

Quote from: Michael on March 10, 2011, 05:37:47 PM
Here's (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=38.894795,-77.015131&spn=0,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.894794,-77.014975&panoid=Csk6B4C0SnmzZ16a6bJTJQ&cbp=12,167.2,,1,4.36) a set of ugly I-395 shields I found in DC on Street View.

QuoteI wonder what the process behind such blatant carelessness is.

Quote from: NE2 on March 12, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
Speaking of recycled signs, I took this back in 2004 (it was fixed soon after):

Quote from: Central Avenue on March 12, 2011, 04:21:13 PM
I don't even, like, understand how that kind of mistake could happen.

Quote from: Duke87 on March 13, 2011, 10:32:38 AM

Quote from: Central Avenue on March 12, 2011, 04:21:13 PM
I don't even, like, understand how that kind of mistake could happen.

It didn't, the picture is photoshopped.

Quote from: Duke87 on March 13, 2011, 03:54:59 PM
Then explain the following:

Quote from: NE2 on March 13, 2011, 04:34:59 PM

Quote from: Duke87 on March 13, 2011, 03:54:59 PM
Then explain the following:

Bugger off. You obviously haven't seen enough pixels in your time, and are chasing either jpeg artifacts or imperfections in the manufacturing process.

Quote from: kaothinterceptor on March 13, 2011, 04:39:58 PM
Hence the use of the line "This picture was Photoshopped. I can tell by the pixels."

QuoteA bad looking 35 on this speed limit sign in Washington DC.

Quote from: andrewkbrown on March 22, 2011, 05:19:44 PM
A bad looking 35 on this speed limit sign in Washington DC.

Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 23, 2011, 11:46:38 PM
The good old VDOT old font/clearview combination,  I know this probably came as a result of the I-295 flyover project but still

Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 21, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
THAT should be filed under the Best of Road Signs.  Yellow was the standard from 1924 to 1954.  the sign is old as Hell.  there's only a handful of yellow stop signs left in the US.

Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 24, 2011, 12:39:01 PMI remember a recent "Defensive Drivers" class where the teacher insisted that Yellow Yield signs also stopped being the standard in 1954. I could've swore it was 1971, especially since I remember a Readers Digest article from that year boasting about all the new changes to road signs that were happening in the country at the time.

Quote from: Alex on March 24, 2011, 11:22:37 AM

Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 23, 2011, 11:46:38 PM
The good old VDOT old font/clearview combination,  I know this probably came as a result of the I-295 flyover project but still

The Clearview greenout was added when an Exit Only placard was added below:
https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/virginia064/i-064_wb_exit_175_05.jpg

Quote from: Quillz on April 18, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Here's a so-bad-it's-good sign gantry in Oklahoma:

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Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Does this qualify? ;)

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Quote from: hbelkins on April 19, 2011, 11:37:54 AM
Someone needs to take a picture of Route YY intersecting Route Z and put it on a Rush fan's Flickr gallery. ;-)

Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Does this qualify? ;)

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Quote from: hbelkins on April 19, 2011, 11:37:54 AM
Someone needs to take a picture of Route YY intersecting Route Z and put it on a Rush fan's Flickr gallery. ;-)

Quote from: kurumi on April 19, 2011, 01:52:54 PM
Here's a "7/4" photo in Cornwall, CT: http://tinyurl.com/us7ct4

Quote from: NE2 on April 19, 2011, 05:37:10 PM

Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2011, 09:39:38 AM

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South Dakotan vandal?

Quote from: hbelkins on April 19, 2011, 11:37:54 AM

Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Does this qualify? ;)

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Someone needs to take a picture of Route YY intersecting Route Z and put it on a Rush fan's Flickr gallery. ;-)

Quote from: Duke87 on April 19, 2011, 08:31:37 PM

Quote from: kurumi on April 19, 2011, 01:52:54 PM
Here's a "7/4" photo in Cornwall, CT: http://tinyurl.com/us7ct4

Er... what does that have to do with anything?

Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
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Quote from: hbelkins on April 21, 2011, 01:36:10 PM

Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
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This oldie-but-goodie belongs in the Best of Road Signs thread, not the worst.

Quote from: CL on April 22, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
two-digit guide sign beehive unmercifully stretched to accommodate three digits (even though it's for a two-digit route!)

Quote from: Eth on April 22, 2011, 11:22:52 PM
Here's a bad one on I-185 northbound in Georgia. (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=32.956231,-84.95616&spn=0.014818,0.033023&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.95599,-84.956185&panoid=arponmQ5GnrQTsZsenhhog&cbp=12,26.17,,0,0.82)

Really, no arrow?  It's not like there wasn't any space to put one on there.  And this sign has been there for years.

Quote from: CL on April 22, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
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I-15 North - Exit 344 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharymaillard/3091396538/) by sagebrushgis (http://www.flickr.com/people/zacharymaillard/), on Flickr

Blech. Welcome to Ogden, land of bad signage. So many things wrong here. Let's see, we have a huge exit tab, series E instead of E(M) used, the two-digit guide sign beehive unmercifully stretched to accommodate three digits (even though it's for a two-digit route!), and the arrow that's not intended for exit usage. Thank you contractors...

Quote from: roadfro on April 23, 2011, 05:04:35 AM
I believe a recent MUTCD (2003) enlarged the exit tab size. This one doesn't look too abnormal.

Also, what is it about the arrow that makes it not for exit usage? Looks fairly standard to me. Is it an arrow style used on smaller guide signs at junctions stretched abnormally large.

Quote from: CL on April 23, 2011, 03:53:36 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5267%2F5606756161_2d6278e54e_z.jpg&hash=7a8b5ca8cf948c6780993bea86e362244dc18b66)

Can you see the difference? It's as if the arrow gets a tad narrower as it goes up higher, whereas the arrow in the 12th St sign keeps a uniform width in its "stem."

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 21, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
A lot of the US 9 shields on the Garden State Parkway's BGSs look horribly misshapen:
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These just don't look very good. Yes, the sign is in clearview, but thats not all thats wrong with it. The exit tab is waaaay to large (a common thing on a lot of MD's signage) and also the left BGS has slanted arrows.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on September 23, 2010, 09:15:57 PM

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on September 23, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Behold...Frankensign!

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What the hell were they thinking?!

Quote from: NE2 on March 12, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
Speaking of recycled signs, I took this back in 2004 (it was fixed soon after):
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 21, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
THAT should be filed under the Best of Road Signs.  Yellow was the standard from 1924 to 1954.  the sign is old as Hell.  there's only a handful of yellow stop signs left in the US.

Quote from: Presty1965 on May 05, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
I nominate all the non-standard signs on the I-90 Northwest Tollway in Illinois. Last time I was on it, none of the signs were to correct USDOT spec. (Sorry for the incorrect terminology; I'm new here.) The same on the I-94 Tri-State Tollway. Something with the Illinois Tollway?

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on May 05, 2011, 08:34:43 PM
It's a moot point as Frankensign fell over several months ago, and was replaced with a temporary (Clearview) exit sign a few weeks ago. It's due to be replaced with a permanent (also Clearview) non-overhead sign sometime in the next few months according to VDOT (I emailed them about it).

Quote from: cjk374 on May 05, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
re:  the RIDOT state route markers above....what is wrong w/them? 

Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on May 06, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
The top one seems to have number alignment/placement issues. On the bottom one, the font for the 102 is stretched vertically, which is ugly. So ugly, in fact, that even the MUTCD tells you not to do it or kittens shall be killed (Chapter 2A §13 ¶14 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2a.htm#section2A13_para14)).

Quote from: Presty1965 on May 05, 2011, 09:18:00 PM

Quote from: NE2 on March 12, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
Speaking of recycled signs, I took this back in 2004 (it was fixed soon after):
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Wow. A three-sided roundabout where you're supposed to go left (despite the Keep Right sign ahead). Your tax dollars at work.

Quote from: NE2 on March 12, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
Speaking of recycled signs, I took this back in 2004 (it was fixed soon after):
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Quote from: doofy103 on April 23, 2011, 04:41:08 PM

Quote from: CL on April 23, 2011, 03:53:36 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5267%2F5606756161_2d6278e54e_z.jpg&hash=7a8b5ca8cf948c6780993bea86e362244dc18b66)

Can you see the difference? It's as if the arrow gets a tad narrower as it goes up higher, whereas the arrow in the 12th St sign keeps a uniform width in its "stem."

Doesn't the arrow at the bottom go back to the 70s and 80s standards when all arrows were at the bottom?  it seems like a step back, even if it is in the yellow.

Quote from: cjk374 on May 05, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
re:  the RIDOT state route markers above....what is wrong w/them? 

• I don't particularly have a problem with the I-95 shields.  Yes, they're ugly; yes, they should have chosen a narrower font, but at least they're standard.  (But then, maybe I'm just used to it because Washington loves the non-cutouts too.)  The bigger problem to me is that the "unisign" format appears to result in nonstandard banners and arrows.  Particularly the arrow "plates" look too small.  Also, the "To" plate above it is ghastly.
• Regarding the "cramped" RI 2 shield, think about why it's cramped.  It's most likely borrowed from the state directly to its north/east, which uses a plain white square with a vertically centered number, and they tacked on the R.I. as an afterthought.
• In the third photo, you can see more clearly what I was talking about with the first one.  Compare the arrows for 2/102 with the one on the left.  Not only are the arrows themselves longer and narrower, but the "plates" are smaller.  And as mentioned, for the 102, they stretched Series E vertically (big no-no) rather than switching to C or D.  (Also, this could just be me, but the TO looks nonstandard again, although less garishly than the one in the I-95 pic.)

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 06, 2011, 10:29:14 PM


The 2009 MUTCD has a fairly thorough nomenclature of arrows. The tapered-shaft arrow is a Type A arrow, and I believe the non-tapered-shaft is a Type C.

Quote from: Steve on May 06, 2011, 06:18:38 PM

Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on May 06, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
The top one seems to have number alignment/placement issues. On the bottom one, the font for the 102 is stretched vertically, which is ugly. So ugly, in fact, that even the MUTCD tells you not to do it or kittens shall be killed (Chapter 2A §13 ¶14 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2a.htm#section2A13_para14)).

It's "or kittens should be killed." Option, not Standard.

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 11, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
Passed this one earlier today. It's in the City of Alexandria, but I have a feeling it was posted by the developer of that particular area (Hoffman Center) and not by any official entity.

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 11, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
Passed this one earlier today. It's in the City of Alexandria, but I have a feeling it was posted by the developer of that particular area (Hoffman Center) and not by any official entity.

Quote from: JCinSummerfield on May 17, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
When travelling east on OH-15, the first exit east of I-75 is for Business-75.  The actual sign is a US shield, with a "75" pasted on it.  I presume it previously was a US-68 shield.

Quote from: rawmustard on May 18, 2011, 11:15:00 AM

Quote from: JCinSummerfield on May 17, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
When travelling east on OH-15, the first exit east of I-75 is for Business-75.  The actual sign is a US shield, with a "75" pasted on it.  I presume it previously was a US-68 shield.

Hmmm, I don't recall seeing anything like you describe riding down to Columbus this past Friday, and I'm more than certain A.J. (who was driving) would have mentioned it to me had he seen it.

Quote from: okroads on May 18, 2011, 10:58:16 AM
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K-14 North at I-70 West

Quote from: Android on May 18, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
And here's kind of a hideous mismatched-lettering example that I wanted to post earlier but couldn't find it til now:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.trainorders.com%2Fandroid%2Fmisc%2FRanchlandLane.jpg&hash=f545d811c96312a2147173661beefd9fa9ecdbfb)

Quote from: InterstateNG on May 18, 2011, 01:46:58 PM

Quote from: rawmustard on May 18, 2011, 11:15:00 AM

Quote from: JCinSummerfield on May 17, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
When travelling east on OH-15, the first exit east of I-75 is for Business-75.  The actual sign is a US shield, with a "75" pasted on it.  I presume it previously was a US-68 shield.

Hmmm, I don't recall seeing anything like you describe riding down to Columbus this past Friday, and I'm more than certain A.J. (who was driving) would have mentioned it to me had he seen it.

Street View reveals nothing like that, but there are the traditional Green Interstate Business Route shields.  I didn't even know there was a BUS 75 in Findlay, or Ohio for that matter.

Quote from: Adam Smith on May 18, 2011, 09:34:40 PM
Business Loop 75 in Findlay does exist.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roadfan.com%2Ffindbl75.jpg&hash=5f04022ba3ce867177a90fdfe343ae02cfdcdfa1)

Quote from: US71 on May 18, 2011, 10:58:37 AM
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The 65 looks way too big for that shield

Quote from: Anonymity Lane on May 19, 2011, 12:22:31 AM

Is that 60 shield on a piece of paper? Looks like it.

Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on May 22, 2011, 12:02:35 AM
I have no idea what happened here.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3221%2F5742219852_13870f6b08_z.jpg&hash=e211b4092b142076668ee379c503aee127968598) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/5742219852/)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2711%2F5742220552_10c97830fa_z.jpg&hash=c47582e873009a1a3ad450a636020b0de5216617) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/5742220552/)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3557%2F5742219984_0e3bc322ac_z.jpg&hash=963fc92dad4e3afd2c4bf07933025b379177610b) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/5742219984/)

Quote from: JCinSummerfield on May 25, 2011, 02:11:46 AM
Of course, yesterday I travel down I-75 and OH-15 - with camera in hand.  I am all ready to snap the elusive photo of the Business-75 sing on a US shield, and it's gone when I get there!  I've had a bug in my bonnet over this sign for over a year now, and no that I want a photo, it's gone!  Which one of you buckeyes works for ODOT?

Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 25, 2011, 02:46:44 AM

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/OH/OH19632501i1.jpg)

Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on May 22, 2011, 01:12:56 AM
Of course, it's too hard to use Series B, so let's just squish Series D until it fits.

Quote from: ctsignguy on May 27, 2011, 12:58:58 AM
How about this one?
[Business Loop 75]

Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2011, 11:15:21 PM
is 569 supposed to be a signed route?  it seems awful high of a route number by Oregon standards.

Quote from: xonhulu on May 27, 2011, 11:18:24 PM

It was originally designated OR 69 to match its hidden hwy designation, but that was thought to be too sexually suggestive (I'm not kidding), so they added the "5," following their policy of starting the route # with a 5 when the hwy number is already in use on a previous state route.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2011, 11:22:30 PM
what other reason would they have to number a route the same as another already extant state route.  Say you already had OR-82 (to pick a random example), and wanted to make a new number; why would you even consider 82 again and resort to 582, as opposed to... [insert unused number below 217 or so here]?  there are no US/state conflicts, so no downgrade of a US route would result in a 5xx.  what, then, would?

Quote from: NE2 on May 27, 2011, 11:37:10 PM
Oregon recently assigned signed route numbers to most of their unsigned highways. In most cases, they used the same number, but conflicts arose. For example, OR 240 was already in use, so Highway 240 became OR 540. Since the highway numbers go up into the 450s (by county; Oregon has 36 counties, each getting a range of 10 for three-digit numbers), 5 was the first available hundreds digit that would not cause conflicts (there were apparently no cases where two highway numbers would get the same 5xx).

Quote from: xonhulu on May 27, 2011, 11:33:25 PM
Going back to 2002, when these unsigned highways were given their Route Numbers, the stated reason was to eliminate the confusion between Route Numbers and the hidden Highway Numbers.  Of course, this is bureaucrat-ese:  the Average Joe probably never had this confusion as the Highway #'s were never posted, and if anything the new policy only adds further complication by overlaying a new route numbering scheme on top of the older (1935) system.

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2011, 12:33:51 AM
Probably the same idiot that thought the legislature should have any business with the numbered highway system at all.

Quote from: mightyace on May 29, 2011, 05:00:24 PM

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2011, 12:33:51 AM
Probably the same idiot that thought the legislature should have any business with the numbered highway system at all.

Of course, the legislators know everything they have to tell us dumb peasants voters what we should do.

Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
This shield shape has been showing up all over Kentucky:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5241%2F5357671849_3f53b6251c.jpg&hash=c25c490c3a86f4b315331b6abad833c8aa160ff6)

Quote from: Quillz on May 31, 2011, 10:28:17 PM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/WA/WA19880821i1.jpg)

The 2di shield isn't really an error, but it's just that the 82 is WAY too big. And then they used 3dus shields for 2dus route numbers.

Quote from: cjk374 on June 01, 2011, 12:32:31 AM
I think these are some of the ugliest US hwy shields I've seen yet!   :thumbdown:

Quote from: Quillz on May 31, 2011, 10:28:17 PM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/WA/WA19880821i1.jpg)

The 2di shield isn't really an error, but it's just that the 82 is WAY too big. And then they used 3dus shields for 2dus route numbers.

Quote from: xonhulu on June 01, 2011, 01:20:06 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS101DiscoveryBay4.jpg%3Ft%3D1306905469&hash=40619345a935d4ec74ca3980a463ba08cab93929)

Quote from: Bickendan on June 01, 2011, 01:40:33 AM

Quote from: Quillz on May 31, 2011, 10:28:17 PM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/WA/WA19880821i1.jpg)

The 2di shield isn't really an error, but it's just that the 82 is WAY too big. And then they used 3dus shields for 2dus route numbers.

Gah, I'll take the 3dus shields for the 2dus routes over that obnoxiously large number in the interstate shield.

Quote from: Central Avenue on June 01, 2011, 02:08:34 AM

Quote from: xonhulu on June 01, 2011, 01:20:06 AM
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Not only is the shield hideous, but somehow US 101 goes "west" now.

Quote from: Quillz on June 01, 2011, 02:08:56 AM
As would I. I hate the current '70 Interstate spec shield that calls for giant, oversized numbers on a shield that already has extremely thin borders.

Having little white space to the left and right is important for visibility. I actually find that I-82 shield less readable from a distance than a '57 spec shield simply because from far away, the numbers completely overwhelm the blue background.

Quote from: Central Avenue on June 01, 2011, 02:08:34 AM
Not only is the shield hideous, but somehow US 101 goes "west" now.

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 01, 2011, 07:08:14 AM
That's not a 70-spec shield. This is what a proper 70-spec shield would look like:
[82]

The basic shield is the same, but those huge digits aren't part of the spec.That's just something a lot of states have been doing for some reason.

Quote from: Central Avenue on June 01, 2011, 02:08:34 AM

Quote from: xonhulu on June 01, 2011, 01:20:06 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS101DiscoveryBay4.jpg%3Ft%3D1306905469&hash=40619345a935d4ec74ca3980a463ba08cab93929)

Not only is the shield hideous, but somehow US 101 goes "west" now.

Quote from: cjk374 on June 01, 2011, 05:53:42 PM

Where is this sign located?  I'm curious as to who doesn't know north/south from east/west.   :pan:

Quote from: xonhulu on June 01, 2011, 01:20:06 AM

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS62-180-285Carlsbad3.jpg%3Ft%3D1306905546&hash=1f8c7f215088ba438544a5ed7825c93b5c866459)

. . . though the last isn't so much ugly as it is stupid.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 01, 2011, 06:24:57 PM
indeed, that is '70 spec.  I believe those are correct: the middle one has always seemed like the numbers are a bit too high, squeezing the state name in, but it may be the case that the variant which I find aesthetically more pleasing is actually incorrect.

Quote from: cjk374 on June 01, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
I kinda like these unique signs.  :sombrero:  Somewhere on another thread, US 71 posted a combo shield of US 79/80.  Those are just down the road from me in Minden and Shreveport.  IMHO, it helps reduce sign clutter in places you don't have room for the clutter.   :nod:

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 01, 2011, 06:36:43 PM

Quote from: cjk374 on June 01, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
I kinda like these unique signs.  :sombrero:  Somewhere on another thread, US 71 posted a combo shield of US 79/80.  Those are just down the road from me in Minden and Shreveport.  IMHO, it helps reduce sign clutter in places you don't have room for the clutter.   :nod:

I like this variant much better:

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/NM/NM19630622i1.jpg)

Quote from: Eth on June 01, 2011, 05:55:06 PM
To me, it's not necessarily just the fact that the numbers in the I-82 shield are huge; it's more the fact that the number is also a little bit off center.  And it appears the reason that it's off center is specifically so that the text could be made as enormous as possible; they can gain more space to cram it in by putting the curvature of the 8 damn near flush against the edge of the shield.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 01, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
at this point, if you want maximum number size, why not just make the shield square?  oh, wait ...
{Square I-290 shield}

Quote from: Brandon on June 01, 2011, 07:50:30 PM
WTF did you ever find that fugly-ass sign?  :confused:

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 01, 2011, 06:36:43 PM
I like this variant much better:

Quote from: froggie on June 01, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
Aesthetics isn't everything.  Function over form.  Though there's also something to be said for consistency.  Thankfully, MnDOT's pretty consistent.  Wish I could say the same for VDOT or VTrans.

Quote from: froggie on June 01, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
Aesthetics isn't everything.  Function over form.  Though there's also something to be said for consistency.  Thankfully, MnDOT's pretty consistent.  Wish I could say the same for VDOT or VTrans.

Quote from: ftballfan on June 01, 2011, 06:27:48 PM
Square I-290 shield? Just downright ugly.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on June 01, 2011, 04:57:13 PM
Does WVDOH still use those slightly misshapen US shields? I saw a set of newish looking shields of those style near Wheeling a few weeks ago.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2269%2F5732369940_5c37b318e4_z.jpg&hash=c9f973ee3e511181abe7f3de57aad281af8cf1f9)

Quoteand I believe MNDOT still uses '61 spec US shields fairly regularly. 

Quote from: froggie on June 02, 2011, 01:50:48 PM

Quoteand I believe MNDOT still uses '61 spec US shields fairly regularly. 

Dunno...not familiar with the '61 specs.  You tell me... (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/trafficeng/publ/mnstdsigns/M%20Series/M1-4.pdf)

Quote from: hbelkins on June 02, 2011, 12:01:52 PM
Yes, and when you see one of these, you can generally guess that was fabricated and installed by state forces (note the little logo) rather than contractors, who seem to get the shield shapes closer to correct.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 04, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
that shield shape shows up in Indiana a lot.

I can't find an example offhand, but I've seen a lot on US-30, especially coming out of Illinois - and there is a "US-249" photo that floats around the internet that I've never bothered to put on the Shield Gallery.  A 24x24 shield, with that shape, and the digits "249" crammed in, sloppily hand-placed, with the "9" a wider series than the other two digits.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 04, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
that shield shape shows up in Indiana a lot.

Quote from: xonhulu on May 27, 2011, 11:14:09 PM
On a related note, there used to be an "END 569" on the right side of this sign bridge, as seen in the pictures below:

Regrettably, this is now gone.  Not really sure why, as this is still the end of OR 569.  But, comparing the two photos, they have replaced all the overheads, so the end sign was probably removed at the same time.

Quote from: roadman65 on June 05, 2011, 10:44:44 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/5802910924/in/photostream

This is got to be a very bad assembly.  Unless you know the cardinal rule of the road, you would not be able to figure it out!

Quote from: hbelkins on June 04, 2011, 11:44:23 PM
First US 36 sign westbound as you enter Kansas from Missouri:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3290%2F5797577327_29726b609d.jpg&hash=e3ab98d3fce579d7396a6c42616abd4ada1e51fe)

This is a nonstandard shield shape.

Quote from: KillerTux on June 21, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
Not my pic but it has to be here..
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi184.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx182%2Fbusman_49%2Fmisc%2520junk%2Fdownsized_0618011017.jpg&hash=95543cd4d87576603b61a988032027fc89f9a347)

Quote from: KillerTux on June 21, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
Not my pic but it has to be here..
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi184.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx182%2Fbusman_49%2Fmisc%2520junk%2Fdownsized_0618011017.jpg&hash=95543cd4d87576603b61a988032027fc89f9a347)

Quote from: kharvey10 on June 22, 2011, 12:55:03 AM
.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5277%2F5857755196_358af3f4a0.jpg&hash=1c4b673852ba9ee77e1f45477e6afcc117c50516) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29886127@N02/5857755196/)
070 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29886127@N02/5857755196/) by Kimmy1978 (http://www.flickr.com/people/29886127@N02/), on Flickr
The size of the font for the cardinal directions take the cake.

Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 25, 2011, 01:01:54 AM
And another one from Richmond.  I'm honestly surprised that Will hasn't posted this yet but anyway welcome to VDOT's great idea of what seems like size 4 font on an interstate  :-|

Quote from: 1995hoo on June 25, 2011, 08:18:09 AM
I don't like the right-hand sign in that Richmond gantry, never have, because "Downtown Expressway" doesn't give the unfamiliar driver much info. Of course, I suppose the US doesn't necessarily have a protocol for listing destinations on a connecting road. While the middle sign sort of does the same thing, that sign is for a surface street and as a practical matter I've always regarded those a bit differently from expressways in terms of what detail you ought to provide.  

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 25, 2011, 02:03:57 PM

Quote from: 1995hoo on June 25, 2011, 08:18:09 AM
I don't like the right-hand sign in that Richmond gantry, never have, because "Downtown Expressway" doesn't give the unfamiliar driver much info. Of course, I suppose the US doesn't necessarily have a protocol for listing destinations on a connecting road. While the middle sign sort of does the same thing, that sign is for a surface street and as a practical matter I've always regarded those a bit differently from expressways in terms of what detail you ought to provide. 

The Downtown Expressway doesn't get control cities because it only exists in Richmond, and isn't a bypass (so "Washington" would not work). The only control point it usually gets is "to Powhite Pkwy". It's also not a state-maintained facility.

Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 25, 2011, 01:01:54 AM
And another one from Richmond.  I'm honestly surprised that Will hasn't posted this yet but anyway welcome to VDOT's great idea of what seems like size 4 font on an interstate  :-| (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi622.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt304%2F24DIDNOTWIN%2F014.jpg&hash=80399f673f11cf4707c7afba166841853d8e6242)

Quote from: jdb1234 on June 30, 2011, 02:28:22 AM
From Graysville, AL:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs761.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx260%2Fjdbarnes1234%2F101_0247.jpg&hash=8d1a31501bb3d81052d03baba823cbcc66b61bd8)

Quote from: Central Avenue on July 01, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5344/ugly3637640.jpg

Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on July 02, 2011, 12:23:45 PM

Quote from: Central Avenue on July 01, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5344/ugly3637640.jpg

That was City of Delaware's doing (circa 2000), not ODOT.
P.S. couple of US 37 shields out on the east side of town (by ODOT district 6 HQ) were corrected last month

Quote from: Central Avenue on July 01, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
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Quote from: Michael in Philly on July 02, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
Bad, because it's unconstitutional:  flashing construction sign seen today on I-83 outside of York, Pa., alternating between a picture of the U.S. flag and "One nation under God."

Quote from: hbelkins on July 02, 2011, 11:58:33 PM

Quote from: Michael in Philly on July 02, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
Bad, because it's unconstitutional:  flashing construction sign seen today on I-83 outside of York, Pa., alternating between a picture of the U.S. flag and "One nation under God."

It's unconstitutional to use a phrase from the Pledge of Allegiance????

Quote from: Michael in Philly on July 02, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
Bad, because it's unconstitutional:  flashing construction sign seen today on I-83 outside of York, Pa., alternating between a picture of the U.S. flag and "One nation under God."

Quote from: Michael in Philly on July 03, 2011, 12:31:10 AM
[See https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4000.0 ]

Quote from: Duke87 on July 03, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
What the hell is this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg829.imageshack.us%2Fimg829%2F9151%2Fimg2202es.jpg&hash=a081bcc10b9a49bf5d897a8e421674c3c7527f3f)

Quote from: roadfro on July 03, 2011, 04:03:59 AM

I'm a strong believer in dynamic and variable message signs not displaying "feel good" or random "safety" messages...this described use seems to fit along with those.  Yeah, I get it's Independence Day weekend, but still... People look to those signs for information that will affect their commute or travel, and I feel the unimportant messages distract the driver and diminishes the value of the sign when used frequently. Even "Road Work Ahead / Use Caution" isn't always a necessary message without additional info.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 04, 2011, 01:48:05 PM
(though I would approve of "ZOMBIES AHEAD!!!")

Quote from: hbelkins on July 04, 2011, 12:01:58 AM

Quote from: Michael in Philly on July 03, 2011, 12:31:10 AM
[See https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4000.0 ]

And the relevance of this to the subject at hand is what, exactly?

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 04, 2011, 05:19:05 PM
I had to edit the post in question because of a mangled quote. For the benefit of everyone that's actually reading your posts and thus has to decipher what's being said, and what's just being responded to, I would like to encourage everyone to make an effort to not do that.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 04, 2011, 09:40:08 PM

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 04, 2011, 05:19:05 PM
I had to edit the post in question because of a mangled quote. For the benefit of everyone that's actually reading your posts and thus has to decipher what's being said, and what's just being responded to, I would like to encourage everyone to make an effort to not do that.

I mangled a quote?

Quote from: Brandon on July 05, 2011, 09:17:44 PM
I think we ran out of US-shaped shields.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_1327.jpg&hash=bd1a15875b17b0ed6d6b68d9552ebd331d8c9d44)

Quote from: Android on July 08, 2011, 11:55:45 AM
But then when you happen to see one pointing down, it just looks "wrong", or at least it does for me.   This is an on-ramp sign, and whenever I'm at this intersection the down arrows always draw my attention that way, especially since this onramp goes uphill.   I'm was surprised that in going through my photos that I only could find I had only ever taken just this one rather poor picture here: 

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.trainorders.com%2Fandroid%2Fmisc%2FI25OnrampCasperWY-downarrow.jpg&hash=d2fccba3a7ba8eb2603502a1fe0406d47b5863eb)

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 08, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
Brand new arrow per lane diagrammatic sign on I-95 northbound approaching exit 4 in Portsmouth, NH. It just doesn't look that great to me.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5156%2F5915631717_bd11755410_z.jpg&hash=2d988032398d487525baa21e21cc689a4f9e86ac)

Quote from: texaskdog on July 08, 2011, 01:31:29 PM
Its like "eat your cake and have it too" which is more accurate, it just sounds wrong.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 08, 2011, 03:05:08 PM

Quote from: texaskdog on July 08, 2011, 01:31:29 PM
Its like "eat your cake and have it too" which is more accurate, it just sounds wrong.

made even worse by the fact that "have" is a synonym for "eat", at least in American English.  ("here, have a bite")

Quote from: CL on July 08, 2011, 09:21:58 PM
Cedar City, 7 July 2011:

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Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 08, 2011, 10:28:33 PM
I-95/Maine Turnpike northbound in Wells. Cramped sign and all caps control cities...

Quote from: okroads on July 09, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
All-caps "SALINA":
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.static.flickr.com%2F6123%2F5916449631_9770378956_b.jpg&hash=6281fa7c78fdce2329ff0e4e41fb87b43bfdac3d)

QuoteThat new sign seems so massive compared to what I see here in California.  I hope that sign never detaches from the sign bridge because it looks like it can do some pretty hefty damage to anyone or anything below it.

Quote from: okroads on July 09, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
A couple of new signs I photographed this afternoon:

All-caps "SALINA":
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.static.flickr.com%2F6123%2F5916449631_9770378956_b.jpg&hash=6281fa7c78fdce2329ff0e4e41fb87b43bfdac3d)

Oklahoma Clearview (need I say more?)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.static.flickr.com%2F6013%2F5916445151_b6719bfbd6_b.jpg&hash=c87fc749e447b98837cd4d82be6052678c08e587)

Quote from: texaskdog on July 09, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Of course who wants to exit in Kansas or Oklahoma anyway?  Those are more "drive thru" states

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 09, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
Topsham, ME:
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Quote from: hbelkins on July 09, 2011, 11:17:21 PM
Is the issue the shape of the US 201 shield? There are examples like that all over Indiana.

Quote from: texaskdog on July 09, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Of course who wants to exit in Kansas or Oklahoma anyway?  Those are more "drive thru" states

Quote from: hobsini2 on July 10, 2011, 03:06:09 AM
Now now guys. Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas are lovely states. Nebraska is a "pull thru" state unless you are storm chasing. 

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2011, 10:37:14 PM

Quote from: texaskdog on July 09, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Of course who wants to exit in Kansas or Oklahoma anyway?  Those are more "drive thru" states

Oh, I don't know, maybe one of the 6,604,467 people that live in those two states?

Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2011, 11:36:23 PM

Quote from: texaskdog on July 09, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Of course who wants to exit in Kansas or Oklahoma anyway?  Those are more "drive thru" states

Sort of like Texas?

Quote from: texaskdog on July 10, 2011, 10:28:11 AM

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2011, 10:37:14 PM

Quote from: texaskdog on July 09, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Of course who wants to exit in Kansas or Oklahoma anyway?  Those are more "drive thru" states

Oh, I don't know, maybe one of the 6,604,467 people that live in those two states?

Hey, don't get me wrong, I support farming.

Quote from: architect77 on July 09, 2011, 05:57:56 AM
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Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 09, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
Topsham, ME:
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Quote from: vtk on July 10, 2011, 11:52:08 PM

Quote from: architect77 on July 09, 2011, 05:57:56 AM
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Yes, that's big, but were it smaller, I think it would be considerably less-effective.  Perhaps the arrow-per-lane design would work better here.  Anyway, shouldn't there be a shield for those 4 lanes that exit to the right?  Something that big really needs a route designation...

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 11, 2011, 12:05:13 AM
It's an old alignment of I-40. I think it might be Business 40?

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 10, 2011, 11:54:10 PM
Mushroom Swiss Lobster Rolls? :ded:

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 11, 2011, 12:34:41 AM

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 10, 2011, 11:54:10 PM
Mushroom Swiss Lobster Rolls? :ded:

This IS Maine we're talking about :-P

QuoteNebraska is a "pull thru" state unless you are storm chasing.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 11, 2011, 12:34:41 AM

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 10, 2011, 11:54:10 PM
Mushroom Swiss Lobster Rolls? :ded:

This IS Maine we're talking about :-P

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 08, 2011, 10:47:22 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 08, 2011, 10:28:33 PM
I-95/Maine Turnpike northbound in Wells. Cramped sign and all caps control cities...

wow, that is awful.  I don't think I could gather all the information on that sign at freeway speed.

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 11, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
The lobster rolls are fine. The addition of mushroom and swiss, eh not so much.

Quote from: elsmere241 on July 11, 2011, 11:48:06 AM
Many of Delaware's newer signs have small text too.  Fractions especially are often too small to read the first time past.

Quote from: ctsignguy on July 11, 2011, 01:15:34 AM
Years ago, when i was in Stowe VT for a family holiday, the local McDonald's had lobster sandwiches on the menu.  

Imagine the fun i had at the local MickeyD's with that when i got back to Ohio!

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 10, 2011, 11:54:10 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 09, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
Topsham, ME:
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Mushroom Swiss Lobster Rolls? :ded:

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 11, 2011, 10:25:06 AM

The lobster rolls are fine. The addition of mushroom and swiss, eh not so much.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 08, 2011, 10:28:33 PM
I-95/Maine Turnpike northbound in Wells. Cramped sign and all caps control cities...
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Quote from: architect77 on July 09, 2011, 05:57:56 AM

QuoteThat new sign seems so massive compared to what I see here in California.  I hope that sign never detaches from the sign bridge because it looks like it can do some pretty hefty damage to anyone or anything below it.

These in NC are massive also:
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Fixed your quote tags. A slash ends a quote, not begins it. -DTP

Quote from: vtk on July 09, 2011, 12:53:35 AM

Quote from: okroads on July 09, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
All-caps "SALINA":
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Actually, I think that's "small-caps".  They appear to have given it the same treatment as the cardinal direction banner on the top line.

Come on, sign design people, it's not that hard:  mixed-case for names of places and roads; all-caps for everything else!  I don't think there are any exceptions to that rule anywhere in the MUTCD, so it should be easy to follow!

Quote from: mjb2002 on July 21, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
Actually, the only signs that are mandated to be in mixed-case in the new (2009) MUTCD are street name signs. It is recommended (but not mandated) that all <i>other</i> guide signs be in mixed-case.

We can howl and complain about the 'Salina' sign in the photo being in all caps, but it is still complaint with the new MUTCD as long as it is retroreflective.

Quote from: 2009 MUTCD - Section 2A.13 Word Messages
Standard:
10 All sign lettering shall be in upper-case letters as provided in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book (see Section 1A.11), unless otherwise provided in this Manual for a particular sign or type of message.

11 The sign lettering for names of places, streets, and highways shall be composed of a combination of lower-case letters with initial upper-case letters.

Quote from: wytout on July 22, 2011, 05:12:49 AM

And the next one is NOT smallcaps related, just a "WORST OF..." that happened to be in the same folder so I thought I'd include it.

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Quote from: Brandon on July 25, 2011, 11:14:06 PM
Did I mention the sign in the background that follows the same formula?

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 25, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
This was installed recently on I-376 (former PA-60)......

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Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 25, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
This was installed recently on I-376 (former PA-60)......

Quote from: PennDOTFan on July 25, 2011, 11:40:55 PM

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 25, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
This was installed recently on I-376 (former PA-60)......

Why are these 2 separate signs? Couldn't PennDOT have combined the 2?

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 25, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
This was installed recently on I-376 (former PA-60)......

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 25, 2011, 11:45:57 PM

I'm guessing that they didn't want to deal with the overhead light assembly.
Original signage (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.449992,-80.167891&spn=0.006107,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.44978,-80.16772&panoid=AJYQZ89H-hxL9gfmIC7n4A&cbp=12,329.34,,0,-1.32)

Quote from: vtk on July 25, 2011, 11:37:51 PM
Is that a poor execution of the arrow-per-lane sign in the newest MUTCD, or is it an independent PennDOT invention?

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 13, 2011, 11:38:57 AM
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Quote from: Quillz on July 27, 2011, 02:11:09 AM
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Or should this go in "Best of Road Signs?"

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Quote from: Scott5114 on July 27, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
...Tulsa seems to have it worse than OKC when it comes to ugly ass signage. Wonder if it's just that division of ODOT falling short, or the contractors that tend to work in the Tulsa area?

Quote from: Kniwt on July 28, 2011, 12:22:42 AM
The young-adult drama "Beaver Falls" premiered on UK digital channel E4 tonight. Where is Beaver Falls, California? Perhaps this sign from the first minute of the show might help. Then again, it might not.

Quote from: Rick1962 on July 28, 2011, 09:58:18 AM

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 27, 2011, 10:00:37 PM...Tulsa seems to have it worse than OKC when it comes to ugly ass signage. Wonder if it's just that division of ODOT falling short, or the contractors that tend to work in the Tulsa area?

Some of both, I believe. Either ODOT's Tulsa office is happy to sign off on poorly-designed sign layouts, or they won't hold contractors accountable for poor product. It also seems that there are only a few contractors that are awarded the projects around here, so ODOT may just have to settle for what they can get.

Quote from: Rick1962 on July 28, 2011, 12:15:11 PMYou made some very good points there.

It would appear the blame for bad signage originates with ODOT and their lack of a comprehensive signing manual.

Quote from: Rick1962 on July 27, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Ironically, during the Age of Button Copy, Oklahoma's signage was generally very good (Turnpike Authority notwithstanding).

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 28, 2011, 02:25:10 PM
I should say, however, that I don't know for a fact that Oklahoma DOT doesn't have a signing manual.  They definitely don't have one online, and I have never heard anyone claim that they do have one, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that they have one and just haven't admitted to its existence in public.  KDOT doesn't put its Highway Sign Manual online and aside from cryptic mentions in bidding proposals, its existence is pretty well hidden.  MoDOT does admit to the existence of its Standard Sign Detail Manual (it is on a list of MoDOT manuals which can be asked for by name in a Sunshine Act request), but it is not online.  I think MoDOT does have basic design guidelines for guide signs online as part of its engineering wiki.

Quote from: okroads on July 28, 2011, 01:44:45 PM
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 28, 2011, 03:33:52 PMcouldn't other Sunshine/Freedom of Information Act/whatnot requests be made to the other DOTs?

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 28, 2011, 04:05:32 PMThe closest thing I'm aware of to a sign manual for Oklahoma is the sheets linked from this (http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/traffic/traffic99/e4dgn.htm), which provide a mish-mash of pattern accurate and non pattern accurate signs for things such as milemarkers, exit tabs, rest area signs, the 2006 state route marker, and so forth. I haven't seen anything resembling a generic template for freeway guide signs in there, but I haven't looked at every page.

QuoteWould it be worth the effort to contact Oklahoma DOT about this and register displeasure with the state of Oklahoma signage, or would I (and any other Oklahoma roadgeek who would be willing to team up on this) be waved off as a crazy? I think if presented with some of the pictures that have been posted here, an ODOT rep would be hard-pressed to defend their agency's handiwork, but then again they might be confused by the fact that someone wishes to hold them accountable for something more than the sign's presence and accuracy. What would be the chances that change could be affected?

QuoteOTA is a whole other kettle of fish, and of the two road agencies in Oklahoma, probably the worse when it comes to signs. What are their processes for signage? Would contacting them be any different?

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2011, 12:09:55 PM

They could.  This kind of information is public record.  The problem is being prepared to pay when they respond.  In the case of Missouri, for example, about eight years ago I tried to obtain their signing manual through a Sunshine Act request and was informed that since it was available in paper only, I would be liable for $0.25/page--about $80 for a 325-page manual.  For this reason I am unwilling to proceed with requests unless I know I can get the document I want in electronic format (in which case the costs generally revolve around supply of electronic media rather than photocopying), or I can see the document I want (either in scanned samples or in an actual in-person visit to the DOT offices) and determine to my satisfaction that it can "pay the freight."

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2011, 12:09:55 PM
They could.  This kind of information is public record.  The problem is being prepared to pay when they respond.  In the case of Missouri, for example, about eight years ago I tried to obtain their signing manual through a Sunshine Act request and was informed that since it was available in paper only, I would be liable for $0.25/page--about $80 for a 325-page manual.  For this reason I am unwilling to proceed with requests unless I know I can get the document I want in electronic format (in which case the costs generally revolve around supply of electronic media rather than photocopying), or I can see the document I want (either in scanned samples or in an actual in-person visit to the DOT offices) and determine to my satisfaction that it can "pay the freight."

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2011, 12:09:55 PM

*  Correctly laid out signs reinforce tourists' and other outsiders' favorable impressions of the professionalism of ODOT traffic engineering.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 29, 2011, 04:31:02 PM

I don't the average non-roadgeek person knows or cares whether a sign is correctly laid out or not.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 29, 2011, 04:31:02 PM

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2011, 12:09:55 PM
*  Correctly laid out signs reinforce tourists' and other outsiders' favorable impressions of the professionalism of ODOT traffic engineering.

I don't the average non-roadgeek person knows or cares whether a sign is correctly laid out or not.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 29, 2011, 04:31:02 PMThat's BS. Generally accepted rate in Kentucky is 10 cents per page. Anything else is usually deemed excessive by the courts or by the attorney general's office.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 29, 2011, 04:31:02 PM

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2011, 12:09:55 PM*  Correctly laid out signs reinforce tourists' and other outsiders' favorable impressions of the professionalism of ODOT traffic engineering.

I don't the average non-roadgeek person knows or cares whether a sign is correctly laid out or not.

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2011, 11:57:02 PM

Quote from: hbelkins on July 29, 2011, 04:31:02 PMThat's BS. Generally accepted rate in Kentucky is 10 cents per page. Anything else is usually deemed excessive by the courts or by the attorney general's office.

That is Kentucky.  Different states have different laws and different "deemed reasonable" thresholds.

The real killer is staff time.  Most states tend to charge it only for unusually expansive or difficult requests, but there are a few states where it is charged as a matter of course, the meter is running whenever you are in communication with a state official (whether records are being furnished or not), and you must compulsorily accept supervision (again, with the meter running) when you are in state offices looking at records.

Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on July 30, 2011, 03:17:09 PMWhile charging for paper and media is reasonable, I think that charging for time is a bit far fetched (they would be paid if you weren't there anyway).

QuoteThe documents themselves (apart from the media) should be free, though.

QuoteQuébec's MUTCD (http://www.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/eng/products/60885) costs C$180, even for the online version (http://www.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/eng/products/38418) (slightly worse at $180/year).

The Canadian MUTCD (https://vws3.primus.ca/dev.tac-atc.ca/english/bookstore/products.cfm?catid=12&subcatid=21&subcat=0#manual) is probably the worst offender, at between C$300 and C$450 (depending whether you're member of their bookstore or not), paper only, not including the sign designs (available on a separate CD at C$150 to 225).

QuoteAnd people wonder why signage standards aren't always respected here...

Quote from: thenetwork on July 28, 2011, 11:19:38 PM

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That's the one thing I don't like about Oklahoma overhead gantrys:  They look like unfinished pedestrian bridges!   :crazy:

Quote from: hobsini2 on July 31, 2011, 01:24:44 PM
...as well as the two different sizes for the words Creek Turnpike.

Quote from: kharvey10 on July 31, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
Guess what is missing on this sign on I-64 in Illinois

Quote from: kharvey10 on July 31, 2011, 08:34:47 PM
you got it, not to mention its in clearview and aligned very poorly on top of it.  It replaced a sign destroyed in a car accident earlier in the year.

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 01, 2011, 04:33:46 PM

Quote from: kharvey10 on July 31, 2011, 08:34:47 PM
you got it, not to mention its in clearview and aligned very poorly on top of it.  It replaced a sign destroyed in a car accident earlier in the year.

Signs destroyed by car accidents seem to happen way to often in Illinois.
Since IDOT/ISTHA finished the extension of 355 to 80, the exit gore sign on SB I-55 for Exit 269 has been replaced 3 times (just got hit again over the weekend) and the Exit 268 gore sign 2 times (also knocked down in the last month). Dumbass Cracker driving is thriving!

Quote from: Kniwt on July 28, 2011, 12:22:42 AM
Also, although not strictly a sign, apparently California has reverted to white center (centre?) lines:

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Quote from: geronimoabn on August 02, 2011, 05:53:27 PM
This one is in Madson, WI at US151 and I39/90/94.  Guess they thought it would be cheaper to put up a blank rather than a sign for each of the 3 interstates.

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Quote from: architect77 on August 04, 2011, 06:25:19 PM
North Carolina's are consistently well-executed...(with trimmed edges, sturdy gantries, lights, correct shields, oversized text, etc.)

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 05, 2011, 12:31:28 PM
Also needs a dash or comma between Ft Worth and Dallas

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 05, 2011, 12:42:21 PM

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 05, 2011, 12:31:28 PM
Also needs a dash or comma between Ft Worth and Dallas

Actually, there should NOT be such on that sign. I-35W goes to Fort Worth. I-35E goes to Dallas. A dash or comma would imply that the two spurs go to the same place. People not from Texas think of the two as a single place (much like outsiders think Raleigh and Durham in North Carolina are one city), but they are definitely separate places.

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 05, 2011, 12:42:21 PM

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 05, 2011, 12:31:28 PM
Also needs a dash or comma between Ft Worth and Dallas

Actually, there should NOT be such on that sign. I-35W goes to Fort Worth. I-35E goes to Dallas. A dash or comma would imply that the two spurs go to the same place. People not from Texas think of the two as a single place (much like outsiders think Raleigh and Durham in North Carolina are one city), but they are definitely separate places.

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 05, 2011, 01:57:38 PM

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 05, 2011, 12:42:21 PM

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 05, 2011, 12:31:28 PM
Also needs a dash or comma between Ft Worth and Dallas

Actually, there should NOT be such on that sign. I-35W goes to Fort Worth. I-35E goes to Dallas. A dash or comma would imply that the two spurs go to the same place. People not from Texas think of the two as a single place (much like outsiders think Raleigh and Durham in North Carolina are one city), but they are definitely separate places.

I am sure it would not be the first time that if a dash was used, that a singular route went to one and not the other.
And no i was not lumping together DFW together. I just think visually there needs to be something between Dallas and Ft Worth. Maybe twinsfan is right. a verticle line seperating the two cities and the shields.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on August 05, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
What looks to be stenciled text on this sign:

Quote from: geronimoabn on August 02, 2011, 05:53:27 PM
This one is in Madison, WI at US151 and I39/90/94.  Guess they thought it would be cheaper to put up a blank rather than a sign for each of the 3 interstates.

Quote from: Quillz on August 06, 2011, 01:45:46 AM
Another example...

I don't think using a wide shield for a 2di looks bad, but I don't get why TXDOT would think it's a good idea to squeeze a 3di into a standard shield.

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I don't think using a wide shield for a 2di looks bad, but I don't get why TxDOT would think it's a good idea to squeeze a 3di into a standard shield.

Quote from: Alex on August 06, 2011, 09:10:13 AMThat was the standard for years, but in more recent sign installations, they have gone back to doing 2di's in 2di's and 3di's in 3di's. The reversal was a trend throughout the 2000-2010's.

Quote from: Central Avenue on August 05, 2011, 08:22:24 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on August 05, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
What looks to be stenciled text on this sign:

I'll be honest, I kinda like it. Just 'cause it's different.

Though admittedly, I read the "6" as a "G" at first.

Quote from: apeman33 on August 06, 2011, 06:31:17 PM
KDOT goof that's been up for a few years after one of the freeway exits west of Wichita (eastbound east of Garden Plain, IIRC):

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Quote from: Rover_0 on August 07, 2011, 12:23:09 AM

Quote from: apeman33 on August 06, 2011, 06:31:17 PM
KDOT goof that's been up for a few years after one of the freeway exits west of Wichita (eastbound east of Garden Plain, IIRC):
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You've got to take what you can get, right? :D  We need more US Route cutout shields.  All that US-54 sign needs is an outline and it's excellent.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on August 07, 2011, 12:30:10 AM

Quote from: Rover_0 on August 07, 2011, 12:23:09 AM

Quote from: apeman33 on August 06, 2011, 06:31:17 PM
KDOT goof that's been up for a few years after one of the freeway exits west of Wichita (eastbound east of Garden Plain, IIRC):
<snip>

You've got to take what you can get, right? :D  We need more US Route cutout shields.  All that US-54 sign needs is an outline and it's excellent.

There are a handful of outline-less cutout US 3 shields on the US 3 freeway that runs between the NH line and Burlington, MA.

Quote from: 6a on August 07, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
Indiana is using state-shaped shields now?

Quote from: geronimoabn on August 07, 2011, 07:49:59 PM
This one is interesting.   Indiana Route 49 where it crosses over US 12 north of Chesterton.

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 08, 2011, 10:35:12 AM
Saw this on Friday night on a new street at the far end of our neighborhood. I don't know if I'd really consider it among "The Worst of Road Signs," but I find the words "at all" to be annoying because they're unnecessary. I was probably more amused by the sign than irritated, though.

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Quote from: Quillz on August 18, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
Yup, the 21×18 3di shields are great. I used to dislike them (along with any wide shield), but now I've really gotten fond of them.

I do like them neutered, though. In that case, I usually use 8'' Series C numerals with tighter kerning instead of the 6'' variation California seems to use. (Or it could be 8'' -> 10'', I really don't remember.)

Quote from: ctsignguy on August 23, 2011, 08:06:05 AM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/ctsignguy/August%202011%20Mini-Trip/DSCF0341.jpg

Quote from: Android on August 29, 2011, 02:12:22 AM
I've seen this sign for a while now in a cone zone outside of town, the other night, I made an effort to get a photo of it.  Until I just now got the photo out of my camera, I'd never noticed the 2008 WYDOT style date stamp in the corner...Ugh!  Go figure.  The photo, best I could do at night... 

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Quote from: Ga293 on August 29, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Found this a few years ago, put up by the city of Rome, GA.

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Quote from: Tarkus on September 24, 2010, 02:58:12 AM
And then there's the Yamhill County, Oregon Department of Public Works, who takes ugly to a new standard, with their mutant Arial speed limit signs.  Not only is the font ugly, but the spacing and proportions are completely out of whack.
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 07, 2011, 11:07:34 AM
not that the font on those street blades are anything to smile about, either.

Quote from: NE2 on September 07, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
This is why it's silly to tie route numbers to maintenance.

Quote from: Quillz on September 08, 2011, 04:18:26 AMAlso notice the non-standard font being used.

Quote from: roadfro on September 08, 2011, 10:56:31 AM

Quote from: NE2 on September 07, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
This is why it's silly to tie route numbers to maintenance.

I'm surprised the route doesn't have another name by which homes and businesses are addressed... The town/county could create a new street name "S. Indiana 46 Street" if the state doesn't budge.

But seriously, was there an actual need to change the highway designations in the first place? Was it just because of the maintenance?

Quote from: Quillz on September 08, 2011, 04:18:26 AM
I found this strange US Route shield on the MUTCD page: (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/services/publications/fhwaop02084/index.htm)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg692.imageshack.us%2Fimg692%2F8034%2Fusroutedisaster.png&hash=807e34e0426b361d94b4f3e12332032a6385daa7) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/usroutedisaster.png/)

Also notice the non-standard font being used.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on August 07, 2011, 12:30:10 AM

Quote from: Rover_0 on August 07, 2011, 12:23:09 AM

Quote from: apeman33 on August 06, 2011, 06:31:17 PM
KDOT goof that's been up for a few years after one of the freeway exits west of Wichita (eastbound east of Garden Plain, IIRC):
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You've got to take what you can get, right? :D  We need more US Route cutout shields.  All that US-54 sign needs is an outline and it's excellent.

There are a handful of outline-less cutout US 3 shields on the US 3 freeway that runs between the NH line and Burlington, MA.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 08, 2011, 09:09:35 PM
Clearview in California, eh?

Quote from: Quillz on September 09, 2011, 12:11:08 AM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 08, 2011, 09:09:35 PM
Clearview in California, eh?

I've noticed several Clearview signs in Orange County, and a couple elsewhere throughout the state. I think as the really old signs get replaced, Clearview is beginning to make appearances.

Quote from: Quillz on September 09, 2011, 04:11:43 AM
Well, Clearview is officially only approved (on an interim basis) for positive contrast guide signs. It's not supposed to be used on route shields, street blades, etc. I believe studies showed that negative contrast Clearview is actually less legible from a distance than Series E(M).

Quote from: Kniwt on September 07, 2011, 09:51:05 AM
Accompanying a story in today's (Terre Haute, Ind.) Tribune-Star about the local rerouting of US 40:

Quote from: vtk on September 09, 2011, 05:27:52 AM
Here's what they really should do:.. Develop an alternative spacing table for Series E to give it essentially the same tracking as E(M), and declare it a preferred replacement for E(M) for mixed-case in positive contrast; call it E(G).  ...

Quote from: allniter89 on August 29, 2011, 11:24:50 PM

Quote from: Ga293 on August 29, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Found this a few years ago, put up by the city of Rome, GA.

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amused but not surprised

Quote from: brownpelican on September 11, 2011, 12:36:34 AM
I don't think that's VDOT's responsibility. I think that's on the town/city or county.

Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 11, 2011, 12:26:35 AM
Note to VDOT: When the letters look like they are trying to come off the sign it probably should be replaced. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi622.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt304%2F24DIDNOTWIN%2F011.jpg&hash=7d01a5d222356cf8135aed387f7e0b3b7962a1ad)                                                              
                                                           

Quote from: brownpelican on September 09, 2011, 12:47:10 AM
What was MDOT thinking when they made this sign?

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Quote from: geronimoabn on August 07, 2011, 07:49:59 PM
This one is interesting.   Indiana Route 49 where it crosses over US 12 north of Chesterton.

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Quote from: Alex on August 02, 2011, 09:47:29 PM
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Flaroads found this wretched assembly two days ago... Another 229 of similar design is around the corner.

Quote from: codyg1985 on September 13, 2011, 01:26:32 PM

Quote from: geronimoabn on August 07, 2011, 07:49:59 PM
This one is interesting.   Indiana Route 49 where it crosses over US 12 north of Chesterton.

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I guess the contractor looked at the MUTCD, saw the Alabama shield as an example, and figured all state shields should be state outlines.

Quote from: codyg1985 on September 13, 2011, 01:25:30 PM

Quote from: brownpelican on September 09, 2011, 12:47:10 AM
What was MDOT thinking when they made this sign?

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I assume there are only two lanes that exit off instead of three as the sign suggests?

Plus using Grenada as a control city doesn't make sense, even if Memphis is also shown.

Quote from: codyg1985 on September 13, 2011, 01:26:32 PM
I guess the contractor looked at the MUTCD, saw the Alabama shield as an example, and figured all state shields should be state outlines.

Quote from: mobilene on September 13, 2011, 07:10:24 PM

Once upon a time, Indiana's shields were cutouts of the state outline with the number inside it.  So someone was feeling retro when they made this sign.

Quote from: Quillz on September 13, 2011, 05:59:23 PM
I think that one was posted earlier. I always laugh at the ginormous "150" shield. I don't think it's quite big enough.

Quote from: jdb1234 on September 13, 2011, 04:31:05 PM
Continuing the trend from Alabama:
<AL 150 & I-459 pic>

Quote from: Alex on September 13, 2011, 03:16:33 PM
In two different counties no less, examples of similar bad US highway outlines:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama999/persimmon_st_eb_app_us-029_031.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama999/persimmon_st_eb_app_us-029_031.jpg)

Brewton, Alabama.

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Daphne, Alabama.

Quote from: Alex on September 13, 2011, 03:16:33 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama999/persimmon_st_eb_app_us-029_031.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama999/persimmon_st_eb_app_us-029_031.jpg)

Quote from: codyg1985 on September 13, 2011, 01:26:32 PM

Quote from: geronimoabn on August 07, 2011, 07:49:59 PM
This one is interesting.   Indiana Route 49 where it crosses over US 12 north of Chesterton.

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I guess the contractor looked at the MUTCD, saw the Alabama shield as an example, and figured all state shields should be state outlines.

Quote from: myosh_tino on September 13, 2011, 02:16:49 PM

Quote from: brownpelican on September 09, 2011, 12:47:10 AM
What was MDOT thinking when they made this sign?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Finlinethumb25.webshots.com%2F45912%2F2668334690046960331S600x600Q85.jpg&hash=026232f9cb59723abe5e38a8a952062adacd8cfd) (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2668334690046960331cELpPC)

If I saw that sign, I would assume that the right two lanes must exit I-55, the middle lane would be an option lane and the left two lanes are the through lanes for I-55.  I would make this assumption because the middle arrow is centered below the vertical dividing line separating the I-55 pull through and the Pearl Street exit signs.

After looking at a Google Maps, the middle lane is not an option lane and is, in fact, a through lane for I-55.  Only the right two lanes exit onto Pearl Street.
http://www.google.com/maps?ll=32.291297,-90.167401&spn=0.000588,0.000862&t=k&z=20&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=32.291297,-90.167401&panoid=B2ysLmjzzDn-Pu2EG9nRyA&cbp=12,1.95,,0,6.72

Quote from: kharvey10 on September 14, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
Here we go, this one only popped up less than 4 weeks ago.  IDiOT trying to adopt CalTrans around here LMFAO

Quote from: brownpelican on September 15, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Good Lord that's huge...

Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
It was nice to see reassurance shields added to Interstate 295 in Delaware for the first time ever, but what the DRBA posted was wretched...  :ded:

Quote from: hbelkins on September 15, 2011, 02:48:28 PM

Quote from: brownpelican on September 15, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Good Lord that's huge...

No bigger than some of the signs that Massachusetts posts.

Quote from: codyg1985 on September 14, 2011, 07:41:31 AM
Those can be found in north Alabama as well. A lot of new road construction projects done in the 90's and early 2000's featured those fugly US Shields.

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 22, 2011, 10:52:25 AM

(e) The sign doesn't give any destinations. This is minor in a way because the signs for the specific ramps do list destinations, but I've always thought that a sign that merely gives a road's name isn't particularly helpful to someone who doesn't already know the area.

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Quote from: 1995hoo on September 23, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
Strikes me as odd that they'd specify the time zone on I-95. One of the roads crossing from Alabama, sure–that's where the time changes. But I-95 doesn't go anywhere close to the Central Time Zone.

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 23, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
Strikes me as odd that they'd specify the time zone on I-95. One of the roads crossing from Alabama, sure–that's where the time changes. But I-95 doesn't go anywhere close to the Central Time Zone.

Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 23, 2011, 08:38:03 PM
Another problem I've always had with the signs at the Georgia Welcome Center:

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No exit sign for St. Marys Road.

I-95 Welcome Center in Georgia; Cool ramp arrangement, sucky signs.

Quote from: Brandon on September 24, 2011, 07:48:10 AM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 23, 2011, 08:38:03 PM
Another problem I've always had with the signs at the Georgia Welcome Center:

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No exit sign for St. Marys Road.

I-95 Welcome Center in Georgia; Cool ramp arrangement, sucky signs.

WTF?  Rest room hours from 7am to 11pm?  Never seen this kind of time limit on the rest rooms (they're 24/7 around here).

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 22, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
This sign went up sometime last year on northbound I-395 in Virginia. I detest this sign for the following reasons:

(a) The abbreviation "Trpk" for "Turnpike." The other signs on I-395, as well as on the Beltway, use "Tnpk"; this one is unique in "Trpk." The street blade signs generally use "Tpke," and then in Annandale there are a couple of lighted street signs attached to mast arms that use "Trnpk." Maybe VDOT simply can't make up their mind how to abbreviate this road.

Quote from: thenetwork on September 22, 2011, 05:47:13 PM
And why is there just as many "accepted" abbreviations for turnpike as there are "accepted" spellings for that Libyan dictator currently in hiding???  Can't we just settle on a single spelling and be done with it? 

(My vote goes for "Tpk.")   

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 22, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
(d) Space between "3 A—B." I know it's the new standard, but it's a standard I think is unnecessary and ugly.

Quote from: vtk on September 22, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
Why did MUTCD introduce a space between the numeral and suffix of a suffixed exit number? If only for legibility, I think 1/4 text height gap would suffice  a space equal to the full text height makes it look like two separate, unrelated things.

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 22, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
(e) The sign doesn't give any destinations. This is minor in a way because the signs for the specific ramps do list destinations, but I've always thought that a sign that merely gives a road's name isn't particularly helpful to someone who doesn't already know the area.

Quote from: thenetwork on September 22, 2011, 05:47:13 PM
More than likely on the primary exit BGSs in urban areas, the use of street names usually takes precedence over specific destinations because the locals will tend to call that particular thoroughfare by it's street name rather than it's route number.  Usually one secondary exit BGSs will list a couple of destinations (cities, landmarks, etc...), referring drivers to USE EXIT xxx, for example. 

Quote from: Android on September 25, 2011, 03:17:58 AM
Wyoming put in a new I-25 interchange south of Cheyenne with roundabouts at the new crossroad, and they rebuilt the Vandehei Exit 13 with roundabouts as well.  At each there are some not-so-good signs.   

This one, just looks wrong to me - the weight of the capital letters are too strong compared the lowercase. 
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Then, when I took the time to drive the little roundabout, found this sign in it - they did it again with the Uppercase letters, but then why did they put "SOUTH" in Highway Gothic instead of the Clearview like the city names on the rest of the sign?

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Is it just me, but is this sign like, totally useless? A few miles north at the Vandehei exit, I saw this sign up after they finished the new exit/roundabout.    It only labels two out of the five roundabout choices. (NB I-25 and NB/SB Hynds Blvd are what's missing)

Quote from: vtk on September 24, 2011, 05:55:36 AM

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 23, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
Strikes me as odd that they'd specify the time zone on I-95. One of the roads crossing from Alabama, sure–that's where the time changes. But I-95 doesn't go anywhere close to the Central Time Zone.

At least they don't say "EST", which sounds more official but would be wrong for more than half of the year...

Quote from: Duke87 on September 25, 2011, 10:02:59 AM[awful green oval thing]
Bellows Falls, VT does a decent job of signing a New Hampshire state route, but look at the treatment they give their own state. :ded:

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 25, 2011, 12:22:42 PM
that's doubleplusungood, because it means that this gantry bit the dust:

Quote from: thenetwork on September 22, 2011, 05:47:13 PM

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 22, 2011, 10:52:25 AM

(e) The sign doesn't give any destinations. This is minor in a way because the signs for the specific ramps do list destinations, but I've always thought that a sign that merely gives a road's name isn't particularly helpful to someone who doesn't already know the area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F5f25e0d5.jpg&hash=1e9ee6c5bbf0d26895c0704acf2bb3ef9f4777d8)

More than likely on the primary exit BGSs in urban areas, the use of street names usually takes precedence over specific destinations because the locals will tend to call that particular thoroughfare by it's street name rather than it's route number.  Usually one secondary exit BGSs will list a couple of destinations (cities, landmarks, etc...), referring drivers to USE EXIT xxx, for example. 

But once you get out in the rural areas, BGSs will list destinations on their primary exit signs because either the locals call the thoroughfare by the route number more often than the street name, or the thoroughfare is simply known as "Highway/Route xxx".

But as far as the other aesthetics of the sign go, It's not too bad. 

And why is there just as many "accepted" abbreviations for turnpike as there are "accepted" spellings for that Libyan dictator currently in hiding???  Can't we just settle on a single spelling and be done with it? 

(My vote goes for "Tpk.")   

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 26, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
Not related, but that rollover sign in that second photo above looks odd. Is this a new VDOT sign?

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 26, 2011, 05:29:45 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 26, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
Not related, but that rollover sign in that second photo above looks odd. Is this a new VDOT sign?

First time I've ever seen it (and I use that ramp frequently when I go to visit my parents in Fairfax). Signs I've seen there in the past had a black tanker pictured.

Quote from: roadfro on September 27, 2011, 05:08:50 AM

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 26, 2011, 05:29:45 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 26, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
Not related, but that rollover sign in that second photo above looks odd. Is this a new VDOT sign?

First time I've ever seen it (and I use that ramp frequently when I go to visit my parents in Fairfax). Signs I've seen there in the past had a black tanker pictured.

Seems like they're using an outline of a tanker instead of the standard truck symbol. Is there something about that ramp that affects tanker trucks but not other types of trucks?

Quote from: roadfro on September 27, 2011, 05:08:50 AM
Seems like they're using an outline of a tanker instead of the standard truck symbol. Is there something about that ramp that affects tanker trucks but not other types of trucks?

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on September 28, 2011, 12:07:08 AM
VDOT's been guilty of that too:

[Extra Tall Caps]

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on September 28, 2011, 12:07:08 AM
VDOT's been guilty of that too:

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Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 27, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
Some from this past May. How NOT to do Clearview:
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Quote from: thenetwork on September 28, 2011, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on September 27, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
Some from this past May. How NOT to do Clearview:
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I know Old Steubenville Pike is a l-o-n-g header, but ya' could'a put all the 376 info on 1 line a-piece!  Just sayin'.

Quote from: jdb1234 on September 28, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
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Quote from: okroads on October 04, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
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Quote from: vtk on October 05, 2011, 01:49:15 AM

Quote from: okroads on October 04, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
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That one's understandable.  The contractor probably has several "5" patches that would look just fine on freeway-sized speed limit signs.  So where is that, anyway?  And has that always been a 2-lane road, now being twinned, or are they reconstructing a divided highway, turning it into a 2-lane road temporarily?

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 05, 2011, 05:16:35 AM
It definitely looks like somewhere in Oklahoma. My guess is OK-74 between Oklahoma City and Crescent?

Quote from: Quillz on October 03, 2011, 03:37:59 AM
Wisconsin route shields sure are interesting. I'd have to say those and New York seem to have the most erroneous variations on the template I've ever seen.

Quote from: Quillz on October 03, 2011, 03:37:59 AM
I'd have to say those and New York seem to have the most erroneous variations on the template I've ever seen.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 05, 2011, 08:21:09 PM
Florida has a lot of variations as well.  Seriously, how hard is it to draw a dong?

Quote from: OCGuy81 on October 05, 2011, 11:01:53 PM
My wife asked a cast member last time we went, and was told that if it's posted 15 or above, the city of Anaheim would be have to patrol it, so they do this to skirt that issue.  Doesn't sound right, but interesting nonetheless.

Quote from: roadfro on October 06, 2011, 06:35:06 AM

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 05, 2011, 08:21:09 PM
Florida has a lot of variations as well.  Seriously, how hard is it to draw a dong?

Judgin by the "artistic talents" of the many college freshmen in the dorm I worked for last year, nobody can draw a dong the same way...

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on October 06, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
There's a sign on some side street in Somerville or Chelsea or Lynn or some other nearby city north of Boston that I always see out the window of commuter trains that's a Speed Limit 11 I believe. Looks fully standard.

Quote from: ethanman62187 on October 06, 2011, 06:06:09 PM
It's unusual that the speed limit is not divisible by 5.

Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 06, 2011, 05:02:39 PM


The Riverside MBTA station in Newton has this in the parking lot:
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Quote from: DRMan on October 06, 2011, 07:43:24 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 06, 2011, 05:02:39 PM


The Riverside MBTA station in Newton has this in the parking lot:

Is that speed limit for cars or for the Green Line trolleys?

Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 06, 2011, 05:02:39 PM
The Riverside MBTA station in Newton has this in the parking lot:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5261%2F5647234076_1070db04d9_z.jpg&hash=529dcea9fd62486f0e860d4911e16d79936b289f)

Quote from: DRMan on October 06, 2011, 07:43:24 PM

Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 06, 2011, 05:02:39 PM


The Riverside MBTA station in Newton has this in the parking lot:

[6 mph]

Is that speed limit for cars or for the Green Line trolleys?

Quote from: 6a on October 07, 2011, 06:08:33 PM
12.5 mph is roughly 20 km/h and 31 mph is 50 km/h.  Don't know if that's the reasoning, weird as it may be, but perhaps there are secret Canadians afoot trying to impose their filthy communist French system on us :hmmm:

No clue about the others, though.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 10, 2011, 01:06:31 AM
I like that sign.  I can intuitively figure out very quickly what each lane does, including the implication of a possible U-turn.

also, no Clearview.  Excellent.

Quote from: empirestate on October 10, 2011, 12:41:02 AM
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Wickenburg, AZ: not sure if road sign...or abstract art of desert prairie chicken??

Quote from: US71 on October 10, 2011, 08:31:07 AM
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Paris, TX

Quote from: hbelkins on October 10, 2011, 10:37:44 AM

I like that sign. What's "worst" about it?

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on October 06, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
There's a sign on some side street in Somerville or Chelsea or Lynn or some other nearby city north of Boston that I always see out the window of commuter trains that's a Speed Limit 11 I believe. Looks fully standard.

And back in Virginia, the entrance and exit roads to Busch Gardens are signed at 18 mph.

Quote from: architect77 on October 12, 2011, 07:22:42 PM
Opinions?
<GA signs>

Quote from: architect77 on October 12, 2011, 07:22:42 PM
Opinions?
{signs}

Quote from: vtk on October 10, 2011, 02:35:36 AM

Quote from: empirestate on October 10, 2011, 12:41:02 AM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fempirestateroads.com%2Fphotos%2Fchickenburg.jpg&hash=6cb6a69439d1e1e3705fe257267879dd97f96f4f)

Wickenburg, AZ: not sure if road sign...or abstract art of desert prairie chicken??

The basic concept of that sign is innovative, but the execution is a bit off.  The diagram should be a little smaller compared to the route markers and destinations, which should have their own adequate spaces to either side. Also, the destinations should be in mixed case, not the large-initial-caps treatment used for the directions.