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Started by Poiponen13, October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM

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Poiponen13

Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.


davewiecking

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.

"Take" ? Not likely.

Rothman



Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.

Someone plays too much Risk.
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hotdogPi

We took the Philippines for almost five decades. It's not impossible. That said, we didn't treat them well, so it might not be worth it.

Also, if Russia loses, why would countries uninvolved in the war take their land?
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Poiponen13

Quote from: davewiecking on October 19, 2022, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutian Islands from Alaska.

"Take" ? Not likely.

And man-made islands could be built west of Pacific Coast.

Rothman

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: davewiecking on October 19, 2022, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutian Islands from Alaska.

"Take" ? Not likely.

And man-made islands could be built west of Pacific Coast.
Your imagination impressively has no bounds.  None whatsoever...
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MikieTimT

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: davewiecking on October 19, 2022, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutian Islands from Alaska.

"Take" ? Not likely.

And man-made islands could be built west of Pacific Coast.

I was always under the impression that a large chunk of the west coast was doomed to slide off into the Pacific.  That would make the U.S. smaller, and arguably slightly more united.

Poiponen13

Quote from: davewiecking on October 19, 2022, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.

"Take" ? Not likely.

Kamchatka would be own province and Chukotka would be part of Alaska.

JoePCool14

If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?

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hotdogPi

Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?

Seems more like FritzOwl to me.

Fritzland will be the US's only oblast (Russian, not Alanian) until it becomes a state, and then it will become just like any other state.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

Poiponen13

#11
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

roadman65

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JoePCool14

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

One does not simply know what Alanland is. But also knowing what Alanland is, is a law in Alanland.

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mgk920

Well, seeing as the current USA-Russia border is a fairly easily defensible stretch of water and Mr. Putin is a pretty 'old school' European dictatorial type, I'm not expecting a redux of Seward's Folly in far eastern Siberia any time soon.  OTOH, with the way things are going WRT national politics inside of Canada, stay tuned - anything can happen.

IMHO, the most likely new 'star' on the USA's national flag will be Puerto Rico.

Mike

oscar

#15
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:05:15 AM
And man-made islands could be built west of Pacific Coast.

The ongoing Kilauea volcanic eruption on Hawaii's Big Island occasionally changes the island's shoreline. Sometimes to add land, but sometimes the new land collapses or slides into the ocean (stupid people who hiked onto the new land have died that way).

The underwater eruption of the Loihi volcano may add a new Hawaiian island, or land to the Big Island. That is expected to take tens of thousands of years.
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1995hoo

Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

One does not simply know what Alanland is. But also knowing what Alanland is, is a law in Alanland.

For the benefit of Poiponen13, whose profile shows 43 posts: You have inadvertently stumbled into a long-running inside joke, as it were. Read the original 82-page thread. Or don't.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
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commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

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Poiponen13

Quote from: 1995hoo on October 19, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

One does not simply know what Alanland is. But also knowing what Alanland is, is a law in Alanland.

For the benefit of Poiponen13, whose profile shows 43 posts: You have inadvertently stumbled into a long-running inside joke, as it were. Read the original 82-page thread. Or don't.
I don't understand anything related to "Alanland".

Rothman

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 19, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

One does not simply know what Alanland is. But also knowing what Alanland is, is a law in Alanland.

For the benefit of Poiponen13, whose profile shows 43 posts: You have inadvertently stumbled into a long-running inside joke, as it were. Read the original 82-page thread. Or don't.
I don't understand anything related to "Alanland".
I'm taken it as commentary on your original idea, however fanciful it was intended.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.

You're getting some non-serious responses because this is pretty much an impossibility. Any attempt to "take" land from Russia would result in a global war, and there's no plausible scenario under the current geopolitical climate by which Russia would voluntarily give up land.
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jlam

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Which even is Alanland?
To quote the Alanlandian anthem:
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC
I just ran away from home
Now I'm going to al lan land
I just crashed my car again bailing on the 495 hot lanes
Now I'm going to al lan land
I just robbed Elkins EZ Pass
I'm going to al lan land
I just flipped off President B
I'm going to al lan land
I just tossed a fifth of gin on NE2
Now I'm going to al lan land
I just completed I-74
Now I'm going to al lan land
Shot my gun into the night
I'm going to al lan land
I just saw a good man die
I'm going to al lan land
Stole the I shield of Tom from Ohio's driveway
Now I'm going to Al Lan Land
Labeled US 231 to I-67
Now I'm Going to AL Lan Land
Built a 3rd Beltway around Little Rock
Now I'm Going to Al Lan Land
Kicked my ass out of school
Rolled me out into the street
Hitched a ride on a monkey's back
Headed west into the black
I'm going to al lan land
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1995hoo

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 19, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

One does not simply know what Alanland is. But also knowing what Alanland is, is a law in Alanland.

For the benefit of Poiponen13, whose profile shows 43 posts: You have inadvertently stumbled into a long-running inside joke, as it were. Read the original 82-page thread. Or don't.
I don't understand anything related to "Alanland".

As I said, "You have inadvertently stumbled into a long-running inside joke ...." Don't bother trying to understand it. Just accept it.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

SectorZ

Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 19, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 19, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
If we take Russia, does that mean we can expand the Interstate system, a la Alanland?
Which even is Alanland? And Chukotka, such sparsely populated area would have just some state highways. But takings form other continents and man-made islands should have extensions of east-west highways and new north-south highways.

One does not simply know what Alanland is. But also knowing what Alanland is, is a law in Alanland.

For the benefit of Poiponen13, whose profile shows 43 posts: You have inadvertently stumbled into a long-running inside joke, as it were. Read the original 82-page thread. Or don't.
I don't understand anything related to "Alanland".

Or the Cold War, or nuclear threats, or being vaporized at 540,000 degrees (or 300,000 on your scale).

Poiponen13

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on October 19, 2022, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.

You're getting some non-serious responses because this is pretty much an impossibility. Any attempt to "take" land from Russia would result in a global war, and there's no plausible scenario under the current geopolitical climate by which Russia would voluntarily give up land.
But could Russia cede them peacefully to USA and Canada? I predict that Russia will break up to smaller countries in future.

SectorZ

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on October 19, 2022, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on October 19, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Could USA and Canada take some easternmost lands of Russia? More and more people are moving to European Russia, so this would be a good case. USA would take Chukotka and Canada would take Kamchatka and westernmost Aleutisn Islands from Alaska.

You're getting some non-serious responses because this is pretty much an impossibility. Any attempt to "take" land from Russia would result in a global war, and there's no plausible scenario under the current geopolitical climate by which Russia would voluntarily give up land.

At least it would be a very short war. It would also solve global warming. So there's that.



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