Illinois Road Videos

[Flint1979]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Or parts of Pennsylvania in the Midwest?

A long time ago someone tried telling me that Michigan is part of the Northeast, I said no it's not it's part of the Midwest and they tried telling me I'm wrong lol.

[Crash_It]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

[Max Rockatansky]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Did Wallethub put that site together?  You sure like to throw out "official"  a lot for things that certainly aren't USGS related content. 

[JayhawkCO]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

[Flint1979]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

That site doesn't prove anything. The Ozarks are in Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. It'd be real nice if you'd stop being so biased toward Illinois and actually open your eyes and realize that there is much more to this country than just Illinois.

[JayhawkCO]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

That site doesn't prove anything. The Ozarks are in Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. It'd be real nice if you'd stop being so biased toward Illinois and actually open your eyes and realize that there is much more to this country than just Illinois.

And thank god for it.

[Max Rockatansky]

And the news knows the "Illinois Ozarks"  is just a tourism designation:

https://fox2now.com/news/illinois/do-you-know-about-the-illinois-ozarks-its-not-just-in-missouri-arkansas/

Direct quote:

"Well, the area may not technically be a part of the Ozarks. But, they are a part of the Shawnee Hills. The region is geologically similar to the Ozarks west of the Mississippi River. There is also an unincorporated community in Johnson County at the very southern tip of Illinois named, Ozark."

I think that I was onto something making up the "Illinois Alps"  as a range the other day.  Why don't designate a Illinois Sierra Nevada Mountains and Illinois Rocky Mountains to aim a little "higher."

[GaryV]

^ or the "Illayaya", capped by Mount Ever Rest.

[Max Rockatansky]

Come join me and ponder a non-flat Illinois road network:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=31690.0

[Rothman]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Or parts of Pennsylvania in the Midwest?

Probably the same people arguing that Pittsburgh and Buffalo are culturally Midwest while claiming Bismarck and Sioux Falls are not.

[Max Rockatansky]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

Does someone actually pity Crash_It though?

[hbelkins]

That site doesn't prove anything. The Ozarks are in Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. It'd be real nice if you'd stop being so biased toward Illinois and actually open your eyes and realize that there is much more to this country than just Illinois.

Wait .. the Ozarks extend into Kansas? News to me, unless they're stretching the Ozarks to include the Flint Hills.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Wikipedia isn't an official source of anything.

[Flint1979]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

That site doesn't prove anything. The Ozarks are in Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. It'd be real nice if you'd stop being so biased toward Illinois and actually open your eyes and realize that there is much more to this country than just Illinois.

And thank god for it.

I know right? I couldn't imagine every single inch of this country being like Illinois.

[Max Rockatansky]

That site doesn't prove anything. The Ozarks are in Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. It'd be real nice if you'd stop being so biased toward Illinois and actually open your eyes and realize that there is much more to this country than just Illinois.

Wait .. the Ozarks extend into Kansas? News to me, unless they're stretching the Ozarks to include the Flint Hills.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Wikipedia isn't an official source of anything.

But the article in question does have 85 references, including the USGS. 

[Flint1979]

That site doesn't prove anything. The Ozarks are in Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. It'd be real nice if you'd stop being so biased toward Illinois and actually open your eyes and realize that there is much more to this country than just Illinois.

Wait .. the Ozarks extend into Kansas? News to me, unless they're stretching the Ozarks to include the Flint Hills.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Wikipedia isn't an official source of anything.

The map that is on the wikipedia page shows extreme SE Kansas being part of the Ozarks. Most of the Ozarks are of course in Missouri.

[JayhawkCO]

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Wikipedia isn't an official source of anything.

And neither is the bullshit Crash_It was sourcing. That was the point.

[Crash_It]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

[Max Rockatansky]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

You're also the guy who said that he saw everything he needed to see in Wisconsin on I-90 and I-94.  Statements of the like coupled with a small states visited list tend scream "novice traveler."

[Rothman]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

A promising amateur?

Your statements exceed your actual experience.

[thspfc]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

Why do you travel IL so extensively rather than going, oh I don't know, west of the Mississippi or east of Kentucky or south of Tennessee?

[dlsterner]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

It's a start.  Maybe not a whole lot compared to the average AARoads member, but a start nevertheless.

[Max Rockatansky]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

It's a start.  Maybe not a whole lot compared to the average AARoads member, but a start nevertheless.

The issue isn't that Crash is starting to travel or a novice at it.  The real problem is how he expects to be treated as an expert by default with no real credibility.  Crash also seems to have convinced himself he can somehow convince others that he is an expert on road/travel-something.  This is only worsened when Crash tries to distort information and opinions into what he touts as "fact."

So the question at hand is are we facing someone with a giant ego, someone who believes their own hype or someone just trying to fake it til he makes it?  I doubt you'll get a serious answer from Crash though on whatever it might be.  One thing is clear, this whole holy-Illinois/dash cam-bad driver shenanigans just isn't going to get him the mainstream acceptance he wants.

[Flint1979]

I haven't entered any new states in over 8 years now but I'm still at 31 states covered plus Washington, DC. With Indiana holding the title of most counties visited.

[Rothman]

Wait ... part of Illinois is considered to be in the Ozarks?

Is that some silly government definition like the one that puts Edmonson County, Ky., in Appalachia?

Yup it's official

https://www.illinoisozarks.com/ozark-tour/


There's also a debate as to whether the Knobstone escarpment in Indiana is actually part of the Appalachians.

Wikipedia officially says you're wrong.

Remember that Crash_It hasn't been anywhere.  Arguing with the ignorant just generates pity for the ignorant.

What do you mean I haven't been anywhere? I've been to Georgia, Indiana,Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.

It's a start.  Maybe not a whole lot compared to the average AARoads member, but a start nevertheless.

The issue isn't that Crash is starting to travel or a novice at it.  The real problem is how he expects to be treated as an expert by default with no real credibility.  Crash also seems to have convinced himself he can somehow convince others that he is an expert on road/travel-something.  This is only worsened when Crash tries to distort information and opinions into what he touts as "fact."

So the question at hand is are we facing someone with a giant ego, someone who believes their own hype or someone just trying to fake it til he makes it?  I doubt you'll get a serious answer from Crash though on whatever it might be.  One thing is clear, this whole holy-Illinois/dash cam-bad driver shenanigans just isn't going to get him the mainstream acceptance he wants.

Like I said, his statements exceed his experience.  Same thing.