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Re: Ohio
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2015, 11:25:38 AM »

Could we instead have this discussion in another thread, such as this one?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2015, 08:19:24 PM »

Update on the Ironton-Russell bridge:

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Re: Ohio
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2016, 07:47:58 PM »

The new Ironton-Russell Bridge is open now. Drove across it yesterday. 
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2016, 05:01:48 PM »

I noticed the name of the new bridge on google maps:
Oakley Clark Collins Bridge opens to public today in Ironton and Russell (Nov 23rd)
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2017, 08:54:37 PM »

I-71 north and southbound have both been on their new decks of the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge for a couple weeks now.

Took this from the Little Miami River trail below (the terrain made it pretty much impossible to get a picture of the whole thing):


And a lovely reassurance marker at the northbound rest area:
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2017, 12:36:21 PM »

Nice vantage point!
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2017, 12:56:00 PM »

We have two threads with the exact same name, and it might be hard to keep track of which is which. Merge?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2017, 01:31:26 PM »

We have two threads with the exact same name, and it might be hard to keep track of which is which. Merge?

There's an Ohio thread in Great Lakes (northern Ohio) and Ohio Valley (southern Ohio). The official definition of the split is on the other thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16419.0 ), though the threads seem to be getting crossed, and there is some contestability about that map, like lumping Dayton into northern Ohio when it's 50 miles from Cincinnati. Maybe a mod could rename the threads Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2017, 01:51:28 PM »

We have two threads with the exact same name, and it might be hard to keep track of which is which. Merge?

There's an Ohio thread in Great Lakes (northern Ohio) and Ohio Valley (southern Ohio). The official definition of the split is on the other thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16419.0 ), though the threads seem to be getting crossed, and there is some contestability about that map, like lumping Dayton into northern Ohio when it's 50 miles from Cincinnati. Maybe a mod could rename the threads Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio?

Personally, I think the divide should be the geographical divide between where waters flow into the Ohio River vs. where they flow into the Great Lakes. I posted something about Columbus in the Ohio Valley board and was told by someone it should have been posted in the Great Lakes board -- never mind the fact that the Scioto River flows into the Ohio River and not Lake Erie.  :banghead:
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2017, 08:45:05 PM »

We have two threads with the exact same name, and it might be hard to keep track of which is which. Merge?

There's an Ohio thread in Great Lakes (northern Ohio) and Ohio Valley (southern Ohio). The official definition of the split is on the other thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16419.0 ), though the threads seem to be getting crossed, and there is some contestability about that map, like lumping Dayton into northern Ohio when it's 50 miles from Cincinnati. Maybe a mod could rename the threads Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio?

Personally, I think the divide should be the geographical divide between where waters flow into the Ohio River vs. where they flow into the Great Lakes. I posted something about Columbus in the Ohio Valley board and was told by someone it should have been posted in the Great Lakes board -- never mind the fact that the Scioto River flows into the Ohio River and not Lake Erie.  :banghead:

If you did that, Akron would be in the Southern Ohio board which makes no logical sense.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2017, 10:23:35 AM »

I have a couple ideas, neither of which is perfect.

1.  Divide by area code -- N (419 567 216 440 234 330) & S (937 513 220 380 614 740) - that would cause Marion County to be in the south, though.

2.  South would include the counties that I-70 runs through, plus all counties south of those.  North would be everything else.   - the only problem with that is that Delaware and Franklin Counties, which are closely linked highway-wise, would be in different zones.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2017, 04:15:20 PM »


Personally, I think the divide should be the geographical divide between where waters flow into the Ohio River vs. where they flow into the Great Lakes. I posted something about Columbus in the Ohio Valley board and was told by someone it should have been posted in the Great Lakes board -- never mind the fact that the Scioto River flows into the Ohio River and not Lake Erie.  :banghead:

That would look like this...

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Re: Ohio
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2017, 09:18:37 AM »

Merge threads and access it from both regional boards?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2017, 03:07:24 PM »

Surprisingly a general thread for Ohio-related news hasn't been started, so here it is.
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D08/Pages/I-71-MLK-Interchange-Project-Info.aspx
The official MLK Drive Project page from ODOT has a nice timeline for progress on the interchange. I couldn't find any newer information about the project. Anyone have new information on the project's progress?

The timeline here has not been updated in a couple years, but I think it is mostly still accurate - they do periodically add notifications when there are lane closings (as of today, the latest one is dated 12/19/16.)

My personal observations are that the ramp from MLK to northbound 71 is very close to opening.   I understand that when it is opened, the McMillan on-ramp is going to be shut down for a time for re-vamping.  I would expect this in the March-April 17 time frame.  It would also appear that the Taft Rd exit will have to be closed at least for a weekend if not longer when the new southbound exit ramps for MLK and Taft have the final touches put on them.  They may choose to do this when UC is not in session.   I would assume that the onramp from MLK to southbound 71 would open around the same time.   I don't know if the plan is to open all the ramps simultaneously or not.

I assume that MLK will be Exit 4 - can anyone confirm that?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2017, 03:21:45 PM »

Merge threads and access it from both regional boards?

Certainly. There really is no clear dividing point. I spent a few years in Columbus and, depending on who you talk to, it's either with the Ohio Valley or the Great Lakes. Culturally, it's more with the Ohio Valley.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2017, 04:15:51 PM »

Merge threads and access it from both regional boards?

If possible that would probably be the best way to do it. Though that would only resolve the issue of the general thread for little stuff....the debate about the split would still be there for projects that get their own threads.

And really, there's apparently not that much demand for a southern Ohio general thread. 75% of the posts in this relatively short thread have been about how the state should be divided, not actual road related topics. Meanwhile the general Ohio thread in the Midwest-Great Lakes forum is up to 6 pages covering all sorts of on topic stuff, including the Columbus and Dayton areas.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2017, 04:33:14 PM »

Which is precisely why we should merge the threads.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2017, 11:36:14 AM »


If possible that would probably be the best way to do it. Though that would only resolve the issue of the general thread for little stuff....the debate about the split would still be there for projects that get their own threads.

Couldn't projects be done the same way, one thread accessible from multiple boards?
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2017, 12:18:04 PM »

If possible that would probably be the best way to do it. Though that would only resolve the issue of the general thread for little stuff....the debate about the split would still be there for projects that get their own threads.

Couldn't projects be done the same way, one thread accessible from multiple boards?

I suppose, but only for ones that could go either way. No reason to have a Toledo thread accessible from Ohio Valley or a Cincinnati thread in Midwest-Great Lakes.



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Re: Ohio
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2017, 04:45:01 PM »

I was actually about to post to the staff forum about this and then saw that it has already been noticed.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2017, 09:00:30 PM »

I like them separated.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2017, 12:24:49 AM »

If it's technically possible, I would prefer the threads merged and available from both forums.  Failing that, I still assert that dividing the state along DOT district lines and paying attention to culture makes more sense than basing the decision on hydrology basins, the literal name of one forum, and half the literal name of the other forum.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2017, 08:00:24 PM »

Use I-70 as the dividing line between the two Ohio threads.  North of I-70--Midwest/Great Lakes, south of I-70, Ohio Valley.  As far as Columbus is concerned, I would put any item relating to Columbus in Ohio Valley.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2017, 08:04:19 PM »

Use I-70 as the dividing line between the two Ohio threads.  North of I-70--Midwest/Great Lakes, south of I-70, Ohio Valley.  As far as Columbus is concerned, I would put any item relating to Columbus in Ohio Valley.

I agree. Culturally, Columbus is more like the Ohio Valley than the industrial Great Lakes region.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2017, 09:27:33 PM »

As far as the cultural divide goes, I agree with those who have stated earlier that it falls more or less along the lines of glaciated vs non glaciated Ohio. Basically, where the corn fields give way to foothills, and Columbus is north of that divide.

And it should be noted, when it comes to the history of AAroads, the vast majority of Columbus related topics have been posted in the Midwest Great-Lakes forum, not here in Ohio Valley.

 

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