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Jeopardy! Gets Two New Hosts for Next Season

Started by Henry, August 12, 2021, 10:55:44 AM

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JayhawkCO

...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris


SectorZ

Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

Realistically they'll just go ahead and hire Mayim Bialik to be the permanent host rather than the current arrangement of just hosting specials.
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brad2971

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 16, 2021, 01:07:46 PM
Thing is, with television, it doesn't literally matter for anything. I have only so much free time, so anything I can use to help me whittle down options for what I want to spend it on or not is helpful. I don't like either of these people so I'm going to choose not to watch them. Why do I need to be fair to them? It is not like I am personally hiring them to do a job for me, or I am moderating them on this forum, or that they'll even know whether I chose to watch their Jeopardy! episodes. They're going to get paid millions no matter what I do, so why must I waste my time doing due diligence to determine whether I'm justified or not choosing to cut them out of my free time allocation?

I don't have to take Mike Richards's word for shit. I don't know him for anything other than putting out an inferior product on The Price is Right, and I do have experience with people lying to me when they say they weren't involved in the selection process for something like that. For Mayim Bialik, I don't know her for anything other than putting out an inferior product in The Big Bang Theory. She apparently was unable to use any influence she had on the show to make it any better, and didn't walk away from it or take an Alan Smithee credit, so she apparently endorses the product they put out. Why would I expect her Jeopardy! product to be any better, then?

The Price Is Right is going to start Season #50 this fall. In what way is the show "inferior?"

As for who hosts Jeopardy!: I just find it...interesting that no consideration was given to Alfonso Riberio. Or Brooke Burns, for that matter. It's as though no Jeopardy! producer has ever heard of Game Show Network.

WillWeaverRVA

So from the looks of things, rather than just have Mayim Bialik host all the episodes, they're going to start a new search for a permanent host, and continue the guest host carousel for a while. Richards did film 5 episodes and they will air them.
Will Weaver
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 16, 2021, 01:07:46 PM
Thing is, with television, it doesn't literally matter for anything. I have only so much free time, so anything I can use to help me whittle down options for what I want to spend it on or not is helpful. I don't like either of these people so I'm going to choose not to watch them. Why do I need to be fair to them? It is not like I am personally hiring them to do a job for me, or I am moderating them on this forum, or that they'll even know whether I chose to watch their Jeopardy! episodes. They're going to get paid millions no matter what I do, so why must I waste my time doing due diligence to determine whether I'm justified or not choosing to cut them out of my free time allocation?

I don't have to take Mike Richards's word for shit. I don't know him for anything other than putting out an inferior product on The Price is Right, and I do have experience with people lying to me when they say they weren't involved in the selection process for something like that. For Mayim Bialik, I don't know her for anything other than putting out an inferior product in The Big Bang Theory. She apparently was unable to use any influence she had on the show to make it any better, and didn't walk away from it or take an Alan Smithee credit, so she apparently endorses the product they put out. Why would I expect her Jeopardy! product to be any better, then?

You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.


Henry

#31
FWIW, they may as well go the Drew Carey route and hire someone who did not audition for the role, while throwing millions at them just to take the gig...and I wouldn't be surprised if it came to that.
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US71

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US 89


WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: US 89 on August 20, 2021, 05:47:42 PM
Richards should have never even been in consideration anyway.

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments

He shouldn't have been part of the group doing the search, but unfortunately he is the executive producer and was in prime position to hire himself. He will still be involved in the search for a new new host so hopefully he doesn't push a subpar candidate in order to sabotage the show.
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kphoger

Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.

Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either.  Or does it...?

Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...
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US71

Quote from: kphoger on August 20, 2021, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.

Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either.  Or does it...?

Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...

How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?
Like Alice I Try To Believe Three Impossible Things Before Breakfast

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: US71 on August 20, 2021, 08:37:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 20, 2021, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.

Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either.  Or does it...?

Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...

How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?

I hated it and don't understand what my wife sees in it.

golden eagle

Quote from: US71 on August 20, 2021, 08:37:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 20, 2021, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.

Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either.  Or does it...?

Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...

How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?

I didn't like it either.

empirestate

Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.

Takumi

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 20, 2021, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 20, 2021, 08:37:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 20, 2021, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 20, 2021, 11:15:07 AM
You not liking a show does not equal it being an inferior product.

Other people liking it does not equal it being a superior product, either.  Or does it...?

Oh great, now we're getting into the philosophical question of objective beauty...

How many people here liked "Friends", which I didn't like?

I hated it and don't understand what my wife sees in it.

I like it, although I didn't watch it until it started appearing on Nick At Nite.
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

Don't @ me. Seriously.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: empirestate on August 20, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.

And who would you have in mind for such a task?

Scott5114

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 20, 2021, 11:45:38 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 20, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.

And who would you have in mind for such a task?

NE2 obviously.

If he's not interested, then this guy would be a good choice: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1285
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

Scott5114

#43
As for The Price is Right–the show used to have a grandeur to it that it no longer has. That sounds like hyperbole, but I can't really concisely put it into any words but that. The show is an institution that is about to start taping Season 50–but changes over the last ten years make it feel like a cheap copy of that institution, like when an old baseball stadium is torn down and replaced with a modern stadium that is just like every other stadium in every other city.

Probably the best example of this is the music played throughout the show. Price debuted in the 1970s, and it very much showed by the instrumentation of the music it used for its first 36 seasons–lots of brass, funk guitar, heavy basslines. The primary composer during this period was Edd Kalehoff, but other composers like Robert Israel did similar music cues in the same style. These cues were commissioned for Price specifically, and were a major part of the show–"It's a new car!" and then you're hit with a wall of brass that plays as the contestant reacts and the announcer describes all the features of the car. These cues were periodically remixed, recut, and rearranged to update them. However, when Mike Richards took over, he ordered all of the music replaced with stock music in an attempt to "modernize" the show. As a result, the familiar tunes are replaced with unfamiliar–well, I'm not sure you can call them tunes at all; they're generic forgettable music that you might expect to be played in the background of a commercial.

Another issue is with the set design, which Richards also ordered "modernized". As an example, here's a picture of the Card Game set from Season 37:

Not the most impressive thing ever, but the green-and-brown color scheme evokes a card table at a casino and allows the focus to be on the contestant, the host, and the information relevant to the game being played.

This is what happened after Mike Richards got involved:

I mean, it's definitely a lot more card game themed. But the design is a lot more visually cluttered, making it a lot harder to easily pick out the information needed to keep track of the state of the game. That card underneath the display showing the $3,000 window that the contestant must be in to win the game is a lot harder to read than the $1,000 card on the previous example. Also, the display is now a LCD screen that displays a distracting card-dealing animation each time the price updates (the old dot-matrix eggcrate display simply changed with a "ding" from the sound effects crew). The set as a whole is distracting now–lots of lights changing colors and flashing and even video screens in the background that display animations. All of that motion makes it a lot harder to keep focus on Drew Carey and the contestants playing the actual game. 

tldr: Mike Richards got rid of button copy
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

Ned Weasel

I keep wanting to say they should ask Will Ferrell, but he's probably too busy making movies.

Darrell Hammond (who played Sean Connery), on the other hand, might be able to fit it into his schedule.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 21, 2021, 01:13:05 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 20, 2021, 11:45:38 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 20, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.

And who would you have in mind for such a task?

NE2 obviously.

If he's not interested, then this guy would be a good choice: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1285

Didn't he reject the role, or they decided against him?

TXtoNJ

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on August 20, 2021, 06:14:18 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 20, 2021, 05:47:42 PM
Richards should have never even been in consideration anyway.

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments

He shouldn't have been part of the group doing the search, but unfortunately he is the executive producer and was in prime position to hire himself. He will still be involved in the search for a new new host so hopefully he doesn't push a subpar candidate in order to sabotage the show.

I'm hearing speculation that it may be less about Richards being an egomaniac, and more about Sony suits bringing him in to be a yes-man for a previously autonomous show. But they didn't realize how badly this would all go over.

US71

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 21, 2021, 01:13:05 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 20, 2021, 11:45:38 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 20, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on August 20, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 20, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Mike Richards quit.

Chris

That didn't take long.

Now the guest-host charade continues, which is just starting to get a little old.

This is what happens when you don't just hire a member of the AARoads forum.

And who would you have in mind for such a task?

NE2 obviously.

If he's not interested, then this guy would be a good choice: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1285

Have you asked if he's interested? ;)
Like Alice I Try To Believe Three Impossible Things Before Breakfast

Takumi

Quote from: Ned Weasel on August 21, 2021, 06:11:29 AM
I keep wanting to say they should ask Will Ferrell, but he's probably too busy making movies.

Darrell Hammond (who played Sean Connery), on the other hand, might be able to fit it into his schedule.

Hard-to-swallow pill: Will Ferrell's Trebek wasn't a good impersonation at all. He was just a hilarious straight man to Norm Macdonald's Turd Ferguson Burt Reynolds, Hammond's Connery, et al.

Hammond would be a good host, actually.

So would Richard Hammond, actually, but he's got other stuff going on.
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

Don't @ me. Seriously.

empirestate

Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 21, 2021, 09:07:31 AM
Didn't he reject the role, or they decided against him?

Decided against, by all accounts (to whatever extent there was a real decision rather than just a shoo-in for Richards).  Ken has been quoted as saying he's "disappointed".

To my mind, I was really interested in the prospect of Ken as the host after his quick and devilish banter during the GOAT Tournament. This was toned down a bit for his actual hosting stint, but I think a good balance would ultimately have been found. And if you read his first book, he really embodies the spirit of the game for its own sake in a way that makes for a perfect continuity to Alex Trebek's legacy (and that, frankly, is what gave him the edge to beat out James Holzhauer for that "final" championship).



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