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Title: Street signs on buildings
Post by: epzik8 on November 13, 2020, 12:00:04 PM
Does anybody have an example of a street name sign on the wall of a building, like this one on US 40 in Aberdeen, Maryland?
(https://i.imgur.com/VKJqRot.jpeg)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: 1995hoo on November 13, 2020, 12:13:25 PM
They painted the sign on the wall because the metal signs were stolen so many times.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-WpmRaJyu_-A%2FVRXytKP9jrI%2FAAAAAAAATtw%2FljtkoJXfJKE%2Fs1600%2F2011-05%252BLiverpool%252B173%252B-%252BPenny%252BLane.JPG&hash=efd386371e9b008d77d24e574ffe4efda37c2118)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: Big John on November 13, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
I don't know if this counts.  Photo by KEVIN_224
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXnaiQ.jpg&hash=615937baba5ee9b84f98cc67556e9d813464279b)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: briantroutman on November 13, 2020, 01:05:28 PM
I don't know if this qualifies, but a great number of old buildings in Philadelphia have some form of street blades on their corners. Some of them are relatively traditional metal street blades affixed to the side of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/crMfXFXwaUiSQfv96) and others are more of a decorative element integrated into the design of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/i8uaW1ddULfZfyn86)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: cpzilliacus on November 13, 2020, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on November 13, 2020, 01:05:28 PM
I don't know if this qualifies, but a great number of old buildings in Philadelphia have some form of street blades on their corners. Some of them are relatively traditional metal street blades affixed to the side of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/crMfXFXwaUiSQfv96) and others are more of a decorative element integrated into the design of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/i8uaW1ddULfZfyn86)

In some European nations, street sign blades are affixed to buildings as much as possible.

København (Copenhagen), Denmark (https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6662957,12.6128628,3a,27y,85.71h,103t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2e9t6FCRKPrtptkWpdCtLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
TÃ¥rnby (suburban Copenhagen) (https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6240365,12.604291,3a,75y,330.84h,67.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siWNG_ugLmunVq1WQimskng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (an interesting alternative mounting of a big street sign blade)
Helsingfors, Finland (https://www.google.com/maps/@60.1824364,24.9222517,3a,15y,330.2h,97.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZYITRi_nZphiadVm8AdMTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (bilingual signs)
Stockholm, Sweden (https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3324785,18.0135722,3a,15y,73.45h,89.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srQiSosvrzzkW_qXe6XGO4g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DrQiSosvrzzkW_qXe6XGO4g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D114.46054%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) (note the smaller name after the letters "kv" is the name of the block, it is almost universal in Stockholm that blocks have names (but the block name is not needed for mail or a taxi or TNC provider)).
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: thspfc on November 13, 2020, 07:30:34 PM
I feel like I've seen this looking around NYC, particularly Brooklyn, on GSV.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: epzik8 on November 15, 2020, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
I don't know if this counts.  Photo by KEVIN_224
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXnaiQ.jpg&hash=615937baba5ee9b84f98cc67556e9d813464279b)
I'll count this.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 15, 2020, 09:45:29 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on November 13, 2020, 01:05:28 PM
I don't know if this qualifies, but a great number of old buildings in Philadelphia have some form of street blades on their corners. Some of them are relatively traditional metal street blades affixed to the side of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/crMfXFXwaUiSQfv96) and others are more of a decorative element integrated into the design of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/i8uaW1ddULfZfyn86)

The relatively newer PA Convention Center in Philly did this as well at 12th and Arch:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eeFvxeM5RSf7sETcA

(BTW, I always wanted to ask, although it may be hard to tell in the GSV: Did they use Clearview for the font?)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: Scott5114 on November 15, 2020, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 15, 2020, 09:45:29 AM
(BTW, I always wanted to ask, although it may be hard to tell in the GSV: Did they use Clearview for the font?)

No, that's Frutiger.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: Rothman on November 15, 2020, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 13, 2020, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on November 13, 2020, 01:05:28 PM
I don't know if this qualifies, but a great number of old buildings in Philadelphia have some form of street blades on their corners. Some of them are relatively traditional metal street blades affixed to the side of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/crMfXFXwaUiSQfv96) and others are more of a decorative element integrated into the design of the building (like this: https://goo.gl/maps/i8uaW1ddULfZfyn86)

In some European nations, street sign blades are affixed to buildings as much as possible.

København (Copenhagen), Denmark (https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6662957,12.6128628,3a,27y,85.71h,103t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2e9t6FCRKPrtptkWpdCtLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
TÃ¥rnby (suburban Copenhagen) (https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6240365,12.604291,3a,75y,330.84h,67.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siWNG_ugLmunVq1WQimskng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (an interesting alternative mounting of a big street sign blade)
Helsingfors, Finland (https://www.google.com/maps/@60.1824364,24.9222517,3a,15y,330.2h,97.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZYITRi_nZphiadVm8AdMTQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (bilingual signs)
Stockholm, Sweden (https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3324785,18.0135722,3a,15y,73.45h,89.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srQiSosvrzzkW_qXe6XGO4g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DrQiSosvrzzkW_qXe6XGO4g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D114.46054%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) (note the smaller name after the letters "kv" is the name of the block, it is almost universal in Stockholm that blocks have names (but the block name is not needed for mail or a taxi or TNC provider)).
When I lived in Volgograd (mid-1990s), most street names -- if even marked -- were painted on the corners of buildings.  Half looked like they were done by concerned citizens rather than a public works department.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: sparker on November 15, 2020, 03:03:29 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on November 15, 2020, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
I don't know if this counts.  Photo by KEVIN_224
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXnaiQ.jpg&hash=615937baba5ee9b84f98cc67556e9d813464279b)
I'll count this.

It might count in reference to the OP -- but that placement is hardly in a location where a driver would intuitively look for directional signage.  It would have been much better off located on the streetlight standard or above the signals -- more directly in front of the driver and at a considerably lower level.   Obviously the intent was to eliminate the signage as a source of "clutter" in front of the mall/courtyard entrance, but at a highway junction the signage location isn't optimal. 
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: STLmapboy on November 15, 2020, 03:05:13 PM
Literally almost all of the UK.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
It is common in Mexico in regards to street blades.  It can be actually pretty hard to identify a cross street unless you stop and look for the signs.  The non-standard placements and fonts make it even more of a challenge.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: DRMan on November 16, 2020, 08:42:26 AM
Quote from: sparker on November 15, 2020, 03:03:29 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on November 15, 2020, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
I don't know if this counts.  Photo by KEVIN_224
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXnaiQ.jpg&hash=615937baba5ee9b84f98cc67556e9d813464279b)


I'll count this.

It might count in reference to the OP -- but that placement is hardly in a location where a driver would intuitively look for directional signage.  It would have been much better off located on the streetlight standard or above the signals -- more directly in front of the driver and at a considerably lower level.   Obviously the intent was to eliminate the signage as a source of "clutter" in front of the mall/courtyard entrance, but at a highway junction the signage location isn't optimal. 

Actually, the intersection (which is in Brattleboro, VT) is at the foot of a steep hill. Having driven this a few times, I assume the strange sign placement is intended to improve visibility by drivers coming down that hill.

GSV of the intersection -- if you pan to the right you can see what I'm talking about: https://goo.gl/maps/y3MjoJB5dymLR8y97
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: cpzilliacus on November 17, 2020, 02:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 15, 2020, 01:42:45 PM
When I lived in Volgograd (mid-1990s), most street names -- if even marked -- were painted on the corners of buildings.  Half looked like they were done by concerned citizens rather than a public works department.

I am reasonably sure that these were installed by the relevant municipal government.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: Rothman on November 18, 2020, 07:01:58 AM


Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 17, 2020, 02:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 15, 2020, 01:42:45 PM
When I lived in Volgograd (mid-1990s), most street names -- if even marked -- were painted on the corners of buildings.  Half looked like they were done by concerned citizens rather than a public works department.

I am reasonably sure that these were installed by the relevant municipal government.

Why?
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: frankenroad on November 18, 2020, 12:52:55 PM
Here's a great example in Cincinnati.  https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1117135,-84.5164843,3a,23.8y,98.02h,105.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCVWqgeUr7jaSI7JQjN9LWQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Note the sign on the building says "Bremen St"  but the modern green blade says "Republic St."  This is due to the anti-German hysteria of 1917 when many German-named streets in Cincinnati were renamed.  The street-renaming was just the tip of the iceberg, but I'll leave that for you to research on your own.
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: ErmineNotyours on November 18, 2020, 10:39:51 PM
Gantry attached to building support beam, and a traffic light span wire is attached to the gantry. (https://goo.gl/maps/baQxBnMSNkV2erPAA)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: hockeyjohn on November 19, 2020, 11:21:36 AM
Mechanicsburg, Ind. (visible driving westbound on US-36)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50621301382_7d0c9436d2_z.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50621302157_e88501f420.jpg)
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: stevashe on December 20, 2020, 01:50:42 AM
I've seen a few street signs on buildings around San Francisco, mainly for short alleys, like this one (https://goo.gl/maps/PfcemG7f8GXFMibF6).
Title: Re: Street signs on buildings
Post by: CapeCodder on December 29, 2020, 11:52:18 PM
My hometown of Nantucket does this quite a bit.