North Carolina

[sprjus4]

A contract has been awarded for improvements to US-64 in Washington & Tyrrell counties. Work can start on June 1 and is expected to be finished by September 30, 2022.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-03-16-us-64-improvements.aspx

Can a freeway be built and bypass Jamesville and Plymouth?

The project in question is a resurfacing project along two segments of the existing freeway between Columbia and Plymouth...

[tolbs17]

A contract has been awarded for improvements to US-64 in Washington & Tyrrell counties. Work can start on June 1 and is expected to be finished by September 30, 2022.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-03-16-us-64-improvements.aspx

Can a freeway be built and bypass Jamesville and Plymouth?

The project in question is a resurfacing project along two segments of the existing freeway between Columbia and Plymouth...

I did read it and that's great. Just have a smoother ride going to the OBX.

[Mapmikey]

A contract has been awarded for improvements to US-64 in Washington & Tyrrell counties. Work can start on June 1 and is expected to be finished by September 30, 2022.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-03-16-us-64-improvements.aspx

Can a freeway be built and bypass Jamesville and Plymouth?

The project in question is a resurfacing project along two segments of the existing freeway between Columbia and Plymouth...

I did read it and that's great. Just have a smoother ride going to the OBX.

Any freeway between Williamston and east of Plymouth will have to be new terrain to the south of existing alignments.

[fillup420]

Lincoln County Intersection Getting a Traffic Signal

DENVER — A traffic signal and other improvements are coming to the intersection of N.C. 16 & Optimist Club Road in Lincoln County.

The N.C. Department of Transportation recently awarded a contract to LMJ Pavement Marking, LLC to signalize the intersection, add new pavement markings and install warning devices to alert motorists traveling on N.C. 16 of the signals ahead. As part of the project, NCDOT will reduce the speed limit from the current 60 mph to 55 mph.

Work can begin as early as April 15 and is estimated to take four months to complete. To minimize traffic impacts, the contractor will not reduce lanes during commuter times, holidays and special events.

Residents and local officials had asked NCDOT to evaluate the safety of this location, which is a reduced-conflict intersection designed to improve safety and reduce the risk of serious crashes. NCDOT recommended the installation of a traffic signal, in part because significantly more people are traveling through this intersection since N.C. 16 was widened in 2011.

Funding for the $281,796 signalization project is coming primarily from a program called High-Impact/Low Cost, a funding source established in 2017 by the General Assembly to provide funds to complete low-cost projects with high impacts to the transportation system, including intersection improvement projects, minor widening projects and operational improvement projects.

Ultimately, NCDOT plans to construct an interchange at this location under State Transportation Improvement Project U-6134. Planning and design work is just getting underway for the interchange project, with right-of-way acquisition currently scheduled to begin in 2022 and construction scheduled to follow starting in 2024.

The entire 17-mile expressway between Killian Crossroads and Lucia was constructed on new location about 13 years ago, built to full freeway standards with the exception of two at-grade intersections (Optimist Club Rd and St. James Church Rd), one of which will now be getting a traffic signal. Not sure why these two intersections were not grade separated from the beginning... hopefully this interchange can get constructed along with another grade separation funded at St. James Church Rd by the end of the decade, finally creating a full freeway corridor that can posted up to 65 mph (or all the way to 70 mph) with no interruption. The southern portion is already posted at 65 mph, though the northern half is restricted to 60 mph due to those two intersections, thanks to artificial classification speed laws.

Also... Google Maps now classifies the at-grade portion of NC-16 south of Lucia to I-485 as a freeway facility, but has the actual freeway / limited access portion north of there marked as a surface route...?

I used to use the NC 16 freeway between Charlotte and NC 150 all the time. I was never a fan of the current setup at Optimist Club and St James Ch. The configuration of these two intersections prohibits the cross street traffic from going straight across the highway. One must turn right, go down 16 a bit, U-turn, then go back and turn right... all just to continue straight. Why don't they just bridge over 16, and make the entrance/exit ramps RIRO? This still eliminates at-grade crossings over 16, and through traffic on the cross street isn't wildly inconvenienced.

NC DOT has repeated this setup in other places around the state, and them adding a signal to NC 16/Optimist Club is just a roundabout way of admitting its a flawed design from the start.

[tolbs17]

A contract has been awarded for improvements to US-64 in Washington & Tyrrell counties. Work can start on June 1 and is expected to be finished by September 30, 2022.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-03-16-us-64-improvements.aspx

Can a freeway be built and bypass Jamesville and Plymouth?

The project in question is a resurfacing project along two segments of the existing freeway between Columbia and Plymouth...

I did read it and that's great. Just have a smoother ride going to the OBX.

Any freeway between Williamston and east of Plymouth will have to be new terrain to the south of existing alignments.

http://prntscr.com/10ogvlg

And i hope to see a perfect interchange at the future I-87 corridor and US-17.

[ahj2000]

Lincoln County Intersection Getting a Traffic Signal

DENVER — A traffic signal and other improvements are coming to the intersection of N.C. 16 & Optimist Club Road in Lincoln County.

The N.C. Department of Transportation recently awarded a contract to LMJ Pavement Marking, LLC to signalize the intersection, add new pavement markings and install warning devices to alert motorists traveling on N.C. 16 of the signals ahead. As part of the project, NCDOT will reduce the speed limit from the current 60 mph to 55 mph.

Work can begin as early as April 15 and is estimated to take four months to complete. To minimize traffic impacts, the contractor will not reduce lanes during commuter times, holidays and special events.

Residents and local officials had asked NCDOT to evaluate the safety of this location, which is a reduced-conflict intersection designed to improve safety and reduce the risk of serious crashes. NCDOT recommended the installation of a traffic signal, in part because significantly more people are traveling through this intersection since N.C. 16 was widened in 2011.

Funding for the $281,796 signalization project is coming primarily from a program called High-Impact/Low Cost, a funding source established in 2017 by the General Assembly to provide funds to complete low-cost projects with high impacts to the transportation system, including intersection improvement projects, minor widening projects and operational improvement projects.

Ultimately, NCDOT plans to construct an interchange at this location under State Transportation Improvement Project U-6134. Planning and design work is just getting underway for the interchange project, with right-of-way acquisition currently scheduled to begin in 2022 and construction scheduled to follow starting in 2024.

The entire 17-mile expressway between Killian Crossroads and Lucia was constructed on new location about 13 years ago, built to full freeway standards with the exception of two at-grade intersections (Optimist Club Rd and St. James Church Rd), one of which will now be getting a traffic signal. Not sure why these two intersections were not grade separated from the beginning... hopefully this interchange can get constructed along with another grade separation funded at St. James Church Rd by the end of the decade, finally creating a full freeway corridor that can posted up to 65 mph (or all the way to 70 mph) with no interruption. The southern portion is already posted at 65 mph, though the northern half is restricted to 60 mph due to those two intersections, thanks to artificial classification speed laws.

Also... Google Maps now classifies the at-grade portion of NC-16 south of Lucia to I-485 as a freeway facility, but has the actual freeway / limited access portion north of there marked as a surface route...?

I used to use the NC 16 freeway between Charlotte and NC 150 all the time. I was never a fan of the current setup at Optimist Club and St James Ch. The configuration of these two intersections prohibits the cross street traffic from going straight across the highway. One must turn right, go down 16 a bit, U-turn, then go back and turn right... all just to continue straight. Why don't they just bridge over 16, and make the entrance/exit ramps RIRO? This still eliminates at-grade crossings over 16, and through traffic on the cross street isn't wildly inconvenienced.

NC DOT has repeated this setup in other places around the state, and them adding a signal to NC 16/Optimist Club is just a roundabout way of admitting its a flawed design from the start.

Ugh. Slowing down traffic.

[architect77]

Lincoln County Intersection Getting a Traffic Signal

DENVER — A traffic signal and other improvements are coming to the intersection of N.C. 16 & Optimist Club Road in Lincoln County.

The N.C. Department of Transportation recently awarded a contract to LMJ Pavement Marking, LLC to signalize the intersection, add new pavement markings and install warning devices to alert motorists traveling on N.C. 16 of the signals ahead. As part of the project, NCDOT will reduce the speed limit from the current 60 mph to 55 mph.

Work can begin as early as April 15 and is estimated to take four months to complete. To minimize traffic impacts, the contractor will not reduce lanes during commuter times, holidays and special events.

Residents and local officials had asked NCDOT to evaluate the safety of this location, which is a reduced-conflict intersection designed to improve safety and reduce the risk of serious crashes. NCDOT recommended the installation of a traffic signal, in part because significantly more people are traveling through this intersection since N.C. 16 was widened in 2011.

Funding for the $281,796 signalization project is coming primarily from a program called High-Impact/Low Cost, a funding source established in 2017 by the General Assembly to provide funds to complete low-cost projects with high impacts to the transportation system, including intersection improvement projects, minor widening projects and operational improvement projects.

Ultimately, NCDOT plans to construct an interchange at this location under State Transportation Improvement Project U-6134. Planning and design work is just getting underway for the interchange project, with right-of-way acquisition currently scheduled to begin in 2022 and construction scheduled to follow starting in 2024.

The entire 17-mile expressway between Killian Crossroads and Lucia was constructed on new location about 13 years ago, built to full freeway standards with the exception of two at-grade intersections (Optimist Club Rd and St. James Church Rd), one of which will now be getting a traffic signal. Not sure why these two intersections were not grade separated from the beginning... hopefully this interchange can get constructed along with another grade separation funded at St. James Church Rd by the end of the decade, finally creating a full freeway corridor that can posted up to 65 mph (or all the way to 70 mph) with no interruption. The southern portion is already posted at 65 mph, though the northern half is restricted to 60 mph due to those two intersections, thanks to artificial classification speed laws.

Also... Google Maps now classifies the at-grade portion of NC-16 south of Lucia to I-485 as a freeway facility, but has the actual freeway / limited access portion north of there marked as a surface route...?

I used to use the NC 16 freeway between Charlotte and NC 150 all the time. I was never a fan of the current setup at Optimist Club and St James Ch. The configuration of these two intersections prohibits the cross street traffic from going straight across the highway. One must turn right, go down 16 a bit, U-turn, then go back and turn right... all just to continue straight. Why don't they just bridge over 16, and make the entrance/exit ramps RIRO? This still eliminates at-grade crossings over 16, and through traffic on the cross street isn't wildly inconvenienced.

NC DOT has repeated this setup in other places around the state, and them adding a signal to NC 16/Optimist Club is just a roundabout way of admitting its a flawed design from the start.

This is known as the NC Superstreet layout, and it's main goals are to prioritize throughput of the main road and reduce the number of phases of any necessary traffic signal.

This was invented by NCDOT and is being implemented in Virginia also.

It's in the same category as Michigan Lefts and Jersey Jughandles which eliminate time spent at signals waiting for protected lefts, etc.

The NC Superstreet makes certain turns require two actions that don't hold up the bulk of the traffic on the main road. I can see where minor, insignificant streets shouldn't make the big, important thoroughfare come to a stop for minutes at a time.....

but at the same time this is a unique way of reducing wait times at signalized intersections. Michigan lefts are a good way of eliminating protected left phases too. Jersey jugnadles requires more land and pavement but are successful too.

US401 from Raleigh to Louisburg is being rebuilt as a 4-lane divided highway but is also a superstreet design. When you see a bulb of shoulder pavement beyond an intersection it is to accommodate u-turns for people to make turns to another road without a phase for that specific maneuver.

All in all they are a good thing because of less time waiting at signals. At least the DOT is out there trying to help you, no such activity in Georiga's DOT although they have adopted Div. diamonds redos.

[architect77]

Please join me in contacting NCDOT asking them to clean up trash along Raleigh's interstates, worst in the country for litter.

[sprjus4]

Lincoln County Intersection Getting a Traffic Signal

DENVER — A traffic signal and other improvements are coming to the intersection of N.C. 16 & Optimist Club Road in Lincoln County.

The N.C. Department of Transportation recently awarded a contract to LMJ Pavement Marking, LLC to signalize the intersection, add new pavement markings and install warning devices to alert motorists traveling on N.C. 16 of the signals ahead. As part of the project, NCDOT will reduce the speed limit from the current 60 mph to 55 mph.

Work can begin as early as April 15 and is estimated to take four months to complete. To minimize traffic impacts, the contractor will not reduce lanes during commuter times, holidays and special events.

Residents and local officials had asked NCDOT to evaluate the safety of this location, which is a reduced-conflict intersection designed to improve safety and reduce the risk of serious crashes. NCDOT recommended the installation of a traffic signal, in part because significantly more people are traveling through this intersection since N.C. 16 was widened in 2011.

Funding for the $281,796 signalization project is coming primarily from a program called High-Impact/Low Cost, a funding source established in 2017 by the General Assembly to provide funds to complete low-cost projects with high impacts to the transportation system, including intersection improvement projects, minor widening projects and operational improvement projects.

Ultimately, NCDOT plans to construct an interchange at this location under State Transportation Improvement Project U-6134. Planning and design work is just getting underway for the interchange project, with right-of-way acquisition currently scheduled to begin in 2022 and construction scheduled to follow starting in 2024.

The entire 17-mile expressway between Killian Crossroads and Lucia was constructed on new location about 13 years ago, built to full freeway standards with the exception of two at-grade intersections (Optimist Club Rd and St. James Church Rd), one of which will now be getting a traffic signal. Not sure why these two intersections were not grade separated from the beginning... hopefully this interchange can get constructed along with another grade separation funded at St. James Church Rd by the end of the decade, finally creating a full freeway corridor that can posted up to 65 mph (or all the way to 70 mph) with no interruption. The southern portion is already posted at 65 mph, though the northern half is restricted to 60 mph due to those two intersections, thanks to artificial classification speed laws.

Also... Google Maps now classifies the at-grade portion of NC-16 south of Lucia to I-485 as a freeway facility, but has the actual freeway / limited access portion north of there marked as a surface route...?

I used to use the NC 16 freeway between Charlotte and NC 150 all the time. I was never a fan of the current setup at Optimist Club and St James Ch. The configuration of these two intersections prohibits the cross street traffic from going straight across the highway. One must turn right, go down 16 a bit, U-turn, then go back and turn right... all just to continue straight. Why don't they just bridge over 16, and make the entrance/exit ramps RIRO? This still eliminates at-grade crossings over 16, and through traffic on the cross street isn't wildly inconvenienced.

NC DOT has repeated this setup in other places around the state, and them adding a signal to NC 16/Optimist Club is just a roundabout way of admitting its a flawed design from the start.

This is known as the NC Superstreet layout, and it's main goals are to prioritize throughput of the main road and reduce the number of phases of any necessary traffic signal.

This was invented by NCDOT and is being implemented in Virginia also.

It's in the same category as Michigan Lefts and Jersey Jughandles which eliminate time spent at signals waiting for protected lefts, etc.

The NC Superstreet makes certain turns require two actions that don't hold up the bulk of the traffic on the main road. I can see where minor, insignificant streets shouldn't make the big, important thoroughfare come to a stop for minutes at a time.....

but at the same time this is a unique way of reducing wait times at signalized intersections. Michigan lefts are a good way of eliminating protected left phases too. Jersey jugnadles requires more land and pavement but are successful too.

US401 from Raleigh to Louisburg is being rebuilt as a 4-lane divided highway but is also a superstreet design. When you see a bulb of shoulder pavement beyond an intersection it is to accommodate u-turns for people to make turns to another road without a phase for that specific maneuver.

All in all they are a good thing because of less time waiting at signals. At least the DOT is out there trying to help you, no such activity in Georiga's DOT although they have adopted Div. diamonds redos.

If they had done it properly, the two intersections on the NC-16 expressway would be interchanges or grade separations. Every other crossroad was grade separated, creating a mostly freeway design, except those two. Now they're coming back to fix one mistake, still the other to be determined.

[tolbs17]

Superstreets come in handy, but I prefer interchanges. People hate stopping. They should build an interchange. Make it a full freeway

[fillup420]

Lincoln County Intersection Getting a Traffic Signal

DENVER — A traffic signal and other improvements are coming to the intersection of N.C. 16 & Optimist Club Road in Lincoln County.

The N.C. Department of Transportation recently awarded a contract to LMJ Pavement Marking, LLC to signalize the intersection, add new pavement markings and install warning devices to alert motorists traveling on N.C. 16 of the signals ahead. As part of the project, NCDOT will reduce the speed limit from the current 60 mph to 55 mph.

Work can begin as early as April 15 and is estimated to take four months to complete. To minimize traffic impacts, the contractor will not reduce lanes during commuter times, holidays and special events.

Residents and local officials had asked NCDOT to evaluate the safety of this location, which is a reduced-conflict intersection designed to improve safety and reduce the risk of serious crashes. NCDOT recommended the installation of a traffic signal, in part because significantly more people are traveling through this intersection since N.C. 16 was widened in 2011.

Funding for the $281,796 signalization project is coming primarily from a program called High-Impact/Low Cost, a funding source established in 2017 by the General Assembly to provide funds to complete low-cost projects with high impacts to the transportation system, including intersection improvement projects, minor widening projects and operational improvement projects.

Ultimately, NCDOT plans to construct an interchange at this location under State Transportation Improvement Project U-6134. Planning and design work is just getting underway for the interchange project, with right-of-way acquisition currently scheduled to begin in 2022 and construction scheduled to follow starting in 2024.

The entire 17-mile expressway between Killian Crossroads and Lucia was constructed on new location about 13 years ago, built to full freeway standards with the exception of two at-grade intersections (Optimist Club Rd and St. James Church Rd), one of which will now be getting a traffic signal. Not sure why these two intersections were not grade separated from the beginning... hopefully this interchange can get constructed along with another grade separation funded at St. James Church Rd by the end of the decade, finally creating a full freeway corridor that can posted up to 65 mph (or all the way to 70 mph) with no interruption. The southern portion is already posted at 65 mph, though the northern half is restricted to 60 mph due to those two intersections, thanks to artificial classification speed laws.

Also... Google Maps now classifies the at-grade portion of NC-16 south of Lucia to I-485 as a freeway facility, but has the actual freeway / limited access portion north of there marked as a surface route...?

I used to use the NC 16 freeway between Charlotte and NC 150 all the time. I was never a fan of the current setup at Optimist Club and St James Ch. The configuration of these two intersections prohibits the cross street traffic from going straight across the highway. One must turn right, go down 16 a bit, U-turn, then go back and turn right... all just to continue straight. Why don't they just bridge over 16, and make the entrance/exit ramps RIRO? This still eliminates at-grade crossings over 16, and through traffic on the cross street isn't wildly inconvenienced.

NC DOT has repeated this setup in other places around the state, and them adding a signal to NC 16/Optimist Club is just a roundabout way of admitting its a flawed design from the start.

This is known as the NC Superstreet layout, and it's main goals are to prioritize throughput of the main road and reduce the number of phases of any necessary traffic signal.

This was invented by NCDOT and is being implemented in Virginia also.

It's in the same category as Michigan Lefts and Jersey Jughandles which eliminate time spent at signals waiting for protected lefts, etc.

The NC Superstreet makes certain turns require two actions that don't hold up the bulk of the traffic on the main road. I can see where minor, insignificant streets shouldn't make the big, important thoroughfare come to a stop for minutes at a time.....

but at the same time this is a unique way of reducing wait times at signalized intersections. Michigan lefts are a good way of eliminating protected left phases too. Jersey jugnadles requires more land and pavement but are successful too.

US401 from Raleigh to Louisburg is being rebuilt as a 4-lane divided highway but is also a superstreet design. When you see a bulb of shoulder pavement beyond an intersection it is to accommodate u-turns for people to make turns to another road without a phase for that specific maneuver.

All in all they are a good thing because of less time waiting at signals. At least the DOT is out there trying to help you, no such activity in Georiga's DOT although they have adopted Div. diamonds redos.

One of these signalized superstreet intersections recently appeared on US 64 near Jordan Lake. The thing is, they DO bring the major road to a stop in order to let like one or two cars make a U-turn. Last week was my first time going through this intersection with the signals working, and I was appalled at how long I was sitting stopped on 64.

[RoadPelican]

A contract has been awarded for improvements to US-64 in Washington & Tyrrell counties. Work can start on June 1 and is expected to be finished by September 30, 2022.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-03-16-us-64-improvements.aspx

Can a freeway be built and bypass Jamesville and Plymouth?

The project in question is a resurfacing project along two segments of the existing freeway between Columbia and Plymouth...

I did read it and that's great. Just have a smoother ride going to the OBX.

Any freeway between Williamston and east of Plymouth will have to be new terrain to the south of existing alignments.

I doubt that US 64 will ever be upgraded to a freeway between Williamston and Plymouth.  There is still a 2 lane section from Columbia to Manteo that needs to be upgraded to 4 lanes.  This section is about 25 miles and only half of it is on the current STIP.

From Columbia to East Lake has ROW in 2028 and construction is post 2029.

Nothing is on the current STIP from East Lake to US 264 (near Manteo) where the road goes to 4 lanes.

2 major reasons for this tough love from NCDOT: US 64 goes thru a National Wildlife Refuge (Alligator River) and Marc Basnight (former State Senator from Dare County) is no longer living.  US 64 used to be known as "Marc Basnight's driveway" he was the former leader of the State Senate and would regularly commute from OBX to Raleigh for legislative sessions.  Most if not all of the US 64 improvements that were made from the 1970's to the mid-2000's were because of him.

[cowboy_wilhelm]

I doubt that US 64 will ever be upgraded to a freeway between Williamston and Plymouth.  There is still a 2 lane section from Columbia to Manteo that needs to be upgraded to 4 lanes.  This section is about 25 miles and only half of it is on the current STIP.

From Columbia to East Lake has ROW in 2028 and construction is post 2029.

Nothing is on the current STIP from East Lake to US 264 (near Manteo) where the road goes to 4 lanes.

2 major reasons for this tough love from NCDOT: US 64 goes thru a National Wildlife Refuge (Alligator River) and Marc Basnight (former State Senator from Dare County) is no longer living.  US 64 used to be known as "Marc Basnight's driveway" he was the former leader of the State Senate and would regularly commute from OBX to Raleigh for legislative sessions.  Most if not all of the US 64 improvements that were made from the 1970's to the mid-2000's were because of him.

Something that I wish NCDOT would begin exploring for this route (and others) is a sort of "hybrid" three-lane approach using alternating passing lanes. Basically, every few miles you get a dedicated mile or two passing area before it switches back to two lanes or passing for the other direction. This would prevent the long queuing behind a single slow car for endless miles (like 64 east of Columbia) and offer a pretty decent level of service without the costs and impacts of a major widening. With rising costs for right-of-way and construction, NCDOT can't continue with the 4-lane and a median approach as the only option to upgrade rural highways with very little traffic. US 221 and US 64 from Rutherfordton to Marion and Morganton, respectively, are a couple of other examples. They took the 4-lanes and median approach south of US 74 on US 221, and it's expensive overkill for that route. NC 49 between Charlotte and Asheboro is another good candidate.

However, with all of the storms in recent years, it's surprising the 64 widening east of Columbia hasn't been moved up. All it will take is a major hurricane in the summer and a mass evacuation from the Outer Banks at the height of tourist season before everyone is screaming why this wasn't completed decades ago.

[tolbs17]

A contract has been awarded for improvements to US-64 in Washington & Tyrrell counties. Work can start on June 1 and is expected to be finished by September 30, 2022.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-03-16-us-64-improvements.aspx

Can a freeway be built and bypass Jamesville and Plymouth?

The project in question is a resurfacing project along two segments of the existing freeway between Columbia and Plymouth...

I did read it and that's great. Just have a smoother ride going to the OBX.

Any freeway between Williamston and east of Plymouth will have to be new terrain to the south of existing alignments.

I doubt that US 64 will ever be upgraded to a freeway between Williamston and Plymouth.  There is still a 2 lane section from Columbia to Manteo that needs to be upgraded to 4 lanes.  This section is about 25 miles and only half of it is on the current STIP.

From Columbia to East Lake has ROW in 2028 and construction is post 2029.

Nothing is on the current STIP from East Lake to US 264 (near Manteo) where the road goes to 4 lanes.

2 major reasons for this tough love from NCDOT: US 64 goes thru a National Wildlife Refuge (Alligator River) and Marc Basnight (former State Senator from Dare County) is no longer living.  US 64 used to be known as "Marc Basnight's driveway" he was the former leader of the State Senate and would regularly commute from OBX to Raleigh for legislative sessions.  Most if not all of the US 64 improvements that were made from the 1970's to the mid-2000's were because of him.

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.

Then they should do this project first (which I'm sure they will). It's currently unfunded though. I wish they added the Columbia bypass in there. And taking it all the way to Manns Harbor, a freeway is possible, but definitely a pain in the ass to do.

I say continue the freeway in Tyrrell County (going over the Alligator river bridge) and make it an expressway in Dare County.

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

[sprjus4]

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

US-64 is already four lanes between Williamston and Columbia. The higher priority is widening the portion that's still 2 lanes to 4 lanes to the Outer Banks. Perhaps at some point in the future, once those issues are addressed, they can shift focus at constructing bypasses for Columbia and Plymouth. The last part that would ever be touched would be Plymouth to Williamston as it's already expressway with only a few signals.

[tolbs17]

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

US-64 is already four lanes between Williamston and Columbia. The higher priority is widening the portion that's still 2 lanes to 4 lanes to the Outer Banks. Perhaps at some point in the future, once those issues are addressed, they can shift focus at constructing bypasses for Columbia and Plymouth. The last part that would ever be touched would be Plymouth to Williamston as it's already expressway with only a few signals.

And continuing the freeway until to East lake? There has been many complaints on the alligator river bridge. It's old and it should be replaced soon

[sprjus4]

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

US-64 is already four lanes between Williamston and Columbia. The higher priority is widening the portion that's still 2 lanes to 4 lanes to the Outer Banks. Perhaps at some point in the future, once those issues are addressed, they can shift focus at constructing bypasses for Columbia and Plymouth. The last part that would ever be touched would be Plymouth to Williamston as it's already expressway with only a few signals.

And continuing the freeway until to East lake? There has been many complaints on the alligator river bridge. It's old and it should be replaced soon

I believe the plans would have it be replaced with a new four lane bridge.

[tolbs17]

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

US-64 is already four lanes between Williamston and Columbia. The higher priority is widening the portion that's still 2 lanes to 4 lanes to the Outer Banks. Perhaps at some point in the future, once those issues are addressed, they can shift focus at constructing bypasses for Columbia and Plymouth. The last part that would ever be touched would be Plymouth to Williamston as it's already expressway with only a few signals.

And continuing the freeway until to East lake? There has been many complaints on the alligator river bridge. It's old and it should be replaced soon

I believe the plans would have it be replaced with a new four lane bridge.

Yes, similar to the one that US-17 has over the Chowan River.

[sprjus4]

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

US-64 is already four lanes between Williamston and Columbia. The higher priority is widening the portion that's still 2 lanes to 4 lanes to the Outer Banks. Perhaps at some point in the future, once those issues are addressed, they can shift focus at constructing bypasses for Columbia and Plymouth. The last part that would ever be touched would be Plymouth to Williamston as it's already expressway with only a few signals.

And continuing the freeway until to East lake? There has been many complaints on the alligator river bridge. It's old and it should be replaced soon

I believe the plans would have it be replaced with a new four lane bridge.

Yes, similar to the one that US-17 has over the Chowan River.

Yes, except with a proper 10 foot right shoulder.

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Documents/Preferred%20Alternative%20Maps%20and%20Typical%20Sections.pdf

[tolbs17]

Why? Williamston and Plymouth are both larger than Roper and Criswell and I think they have a reasonable candidate for a freeway.
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Pages/default.aspx#:~:text=Project%20Overview,end%20of%20its%20service%20life.

US-64 is already four lanes between Williamston and Columbia. The higher priority is widening the portion that's still 2 lanes to 4 lanes to the Outer Banks. Perhaps at some point in the future, once those issues are addressed, they can shift focus at constructing bypasses for Columbia and Plymouth. The last part that would ever be touched would be Plymouth to Williamston as it's already expressway with only a few signals.

And continuing the freeway until to East lake? There has been many complaints on the alligator river bridge. It's old and it should be replaced soon

I believe the plans would have it be replaced with a new four lane bridge.

Yes, similar to the one that US-17 has over the Chowan River.

Yes, except with a proper 10 foot right shoulder.

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/us-64-dare-tyrrell/Documents/Preferred%20Alternative%20Maps%20and%20Typical%20Sections.pdf

Speaking of that, should the Chowan River bridge shoulders be widened to 10 feet so it can meet interstate standards when I-87 is there?

[tolbs17]

When will we get 2020 or 2021 street view in this state? Other states have them and we don't...

That's from Google.

I'm asking about Google Earth imagery too.

[cowboy_wilhelm]

When will we get 2020 or 2021 street view in this state? Other states have them and we don't...

That's from Google.

I'm asking about Google Earth imagery too.

North Carolina   New Hanover, Pender, Brunswick, Columbus, Onslow, Halifax, Edgecombe, Nash, Wilson, Franklin, Wake, Johnston   03/2021 - 12/2021

https://www.google.com/streetview/explore/#sv-headed

For imagery, you can try requesting an imagery refresh in Google Earth using the methods described in the thread below. I tried it for Asheville and other portions of WNC that had 4-year-old imagery (2015), and sure enough some new imagery (2019) showed up a few weeks later. Did the same thing for Shelby and the bypass. Keep in mind that the imagery typically needs to be at least two or three years old before it will be refreshed, particularly for rural areas.

https://support.google.com/earth/thread/5416553?hl=en

The State of North Carolina acquires high-resolution (0.5 ft) orthoimagery on a four-year cycle. The imagery collected in 2020 was for the coastal counties. It is available in various GIS apps/viewers, and I think you can bring it into Google Earth (did it once, can't remember how off the top of my head).

https://nconemap.maps.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=3e09585dabca41c090d363a56a0d053e

[tolbs17]

When will we get 2020 or 2021 street view in this state? Other states have them and we don't...

That's from Google.

I'm asking about Google Earth imagery too.

North Carolina   New Hanover, Pender, Brunswick, Columbus, Onslow, Halifax, Edgecombe, Nash, Wilson, Franklin, Wake, Johnston   03/2021 - 12/2021

https://www.google.com/streetview/explore/#sv-headed

For imagery, you can try requesting an imagery refresh in Google Earth using the methods described in the thread below. I tried it for Asheville and other portions of WNC that had 4-year-old imagery (2015), and sure enough some new imagery (2019) showed up a few weeks later. Did the same thing for Shelby and the bypass. Keep in mind that the imagery typically needs to be at least two or three years old before it will be refreshed, particularly for rural areas.

https://support.google.com/earth/thread/5416553?hl=en

The State of North Carolina acquires high-resolution (0.5 ft) orthoimagery on a four-year cycle. The imagery collected in 2020 was for the coastal counties. It is available in various GIS apps/viewers, and I think you can bring it into Google Earth (did it once, can't remember how off the top of my head).

https://nconemap.maps.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=3e09585dabca41c090d363a56a0d053e

Well they should do something about it. The new SW bypass has come a long way and other businesses. As well as the 540 beltline and Greensboro urban loop.

This is an error. It says you can turn here but it's cutoff.

http://prntscr.com/10qd4e1

[HazMatt]

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One of these signalized superstreet intersections recently appeared on US 64 near Jordan Lake. The thing is, they DO bring the major road to a stop in order to let like one or two cars make a U-turn. Last week was my first time going through this intersection with the signals working, and I was appalled at how long I was sitting stopped on 64.

I like the recent intersection in Holly Springs with the 55 Bypass and Ting Park.  Same superstreet design, but with a flashing yellow U-turn that will only stop traffic if cars are sitting for a couple minutes.  The intersections further south at Target/etc. are frustrating as you always have to wait at a red.

[tolbs17]

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One of these signalized superstreet intersections recently appeared on US 64 near Jordan Lake. The thing is, they DO bring the major road to a stop in order to let like one or two cars make a U-turn. Last week was my first time going through this intersection with the signals working, and I was appalled at how long I was sitting stopped on 64.

I like the recent intersection in Holly Springs with the 55 Bypass and Ting Park.  Same superstreet design, but with a flashing yellow U-turn that will only stop traffic if cars are sitting for a couple minutes.  The intersections further south at Target/etc. are frustrating as you always have to wait at a red.

I thought they don't have as many cycles though.

That's why we need to implement quadrants and those roadways.