Angry rant about NCDOT and their road projects (Language adjusted)

[sprjus4]

I'm glad the airport connect was scrapped. The only useful connection would have been at the I-40/ Salem Parkway split. There just simply isn't enough traffic demand. At this point the Triad should start focusing on meaningful non-freeway projects like widening US 70 between Burlington and Greensboro, the Jamestown Bypass, and the widening of Market Street/ E Mountain Street in Kernersville. I would even like to see an extension of Cone Blvd to the east that ties into NC 100 north of Gibsonville. These projects improve connectivity, improve safety by reducing freeway traffic, and enhance regional cohesion which is something the Triad doesn't have.

A small freeway segment between I-40 at Salem Parkway and I-73 at NC-68 near the airport would be useful, but the remainder isn't needed. Focus should be put on freeway widening projects, such as I-40 and Salem Parkway to 6-lanes, and as you mentioned non-freeway roadways as well. A previous proposed freeway / expressway down to High Point extending from that I-40 to I-73 freeway would also provide better regional connectivity from western Greensboro to High Point, bypassing a congested segment of NC-68.

[tjcreasy]

Yeah I agree with your post, specifically the I-40/Salem Parkway widenings. A long time ago my Transportation Engineering professor told us one day in class about his involvement with the design of "new"  40. The biggest takeaway from him that day was that "new"  40 was overcapacity the day it opened.

[sprjus4]

The biggest takeaway from him that day was that "new"  40 was overcapacity the day it opened.

Based on traffic volumes, the segment of the I-40 Winston-Salem Bypass between I-40 / US-421 on the west side to I-74 that's currently 6-lanes needs 8-lanes, and the segment between I-74 and I-40 / US-421 on the east side that's currently 4-lanes needs 6-lanes.

The US-421 Salem Parkway would needs 6-lanes throughout.

[tolbs17]

http://prntscr.com/qhrxcr

When talking about I-840 and the connector, I would like to put it here.

Is there still enough space to make this interchange and have a ring road here?

http://prntscr.com/qhryqi

This is the other end of it and this area, they recently built new apartments here so this would have to be relocated. How would a real connection work?

[tolbs17]

https://www.pittcountync.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Minutes/_10142019-644

I HATE ROUNDABOUTS!!!! Use the Signalized intersection at signature dr and and Worthington dr. Roundabouts slow traffic down too much. I'm sure I've seen people drive 70 mph in that area.

Roundabouts are seriously overkill in my opinion.

[ARMOURERERIC]

I just wish there was more progress on widening I-40 from exit 100 to exit 153, it's such a clogged mess.

[tolbs17]

I just wish there was more progress on widening I-40 from exit 100 to exit 153, it's such a clogged mess.

Make all of I-40 to 6 lanes even west of there. To Asheville and to Waynesville! That part might need 8 lanes though.

[tolbs17]

US 264 I-587 North-South designation sucks. they need to change that.

[tolbs17]

https://connect.ncdot.gov/projects/planning/FeasibilityStudiesDocuments/U-3430_Feasibility-Study_Report_1996.pdf

I'm pretty sure this damn project would be useful. But it got expanded out I'm sure.

[tolbs17]

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/public-meetings/Documents/U5716_rdy_phm_Alt-1A.pdf

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/public-meetings/Documents/U5716_rdy_phm_Alt-3.pdf

Which is better?

This is a nice Kinston-Greenville Freeway idea.

[tolbs17]

http://files.www.campo-nc.us/programs-studies/hot-spots/NC_55_Bypass/FINAL_I-40-540_CAMPO_Report_111417.pdf

Who thinks this improvement would come in cool? It's heavily congested around here and some major improvements here are needed.

This is to increase weaving distances and increase safety. In my opinion, Alternative 6 or 7 are good. I'm not sure about Alternative 5... It looks kinda weird...

[tolbs17]

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/40-440-us-1-interchange/Documents/meeting-map-interchange-concept-1.pdf

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/40-440-us-1-interchange/Documents/meeting-map-interchange-concept-2.pdf

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/40-440-us-1-interchange/Documents/meeting-map-interchange-concept-3.pdf


Concept 3 is the winner because it's the most simple and has no weird left exits.

Concept 1 is good too but I'm not sure how people would do because of the fast moving traffic when merging onto the freeway with the left exits.

Concept 2 is ok because the interchange itself looks kind of weird because normally when going left, I usually like the flyover on the left side and the eastbound ramp on the right side. That concept shows them on the opposite sides which I don't like, also it does some impacts to South Hills Mall and Plaza.

[tolbs17]

Also, should the damn NC 11 bypass US 264 future I-587 interchange be a damn 2-level stack?? I'm just askin'.

[sprjus4]

Also, should the damn NC 11 bypass US 264 future I-587 interchange be a damn 2-level stack?? I'm just askin'.

No.

[tolbs17]

https://jumpo-nc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/NC24_Final_April_2013.pdf

http://prntscr.com/rd6wm0

Can't find the file that links to the proposed US 17 improvements in Jacksonville so i linked this. It's terrible quality but you can see some of the gradings and it would be like this:

http://prntscr.com/rd6xga

It was probably on the old public meetings but when NCDOT updated there website, it's extremely difficult to find the old projects.

[NE2]

Yes, make it a two level stack. Also known as a cloverleaf.

[tolbs17]

Also, should the damn NC 11 bypass US 264 future I-587 interchange be a damn 2-level stack?? I'm just askin'.

No.

Why? AADT is increasing on those loops so it's not a good candidate?

Also, I think it might be a good time to lock this thread.

[kphoger]

Why is more than a year after the most recent post a good time?

[tolbs17]

Why is more than a year after the most recent post a good time?

Cause I was asking sprjus4 a question.

[kphoger]

So you want it to be locked without getting a reply to your question?

[tolbs17]

So you want it to be locked without getting a reply to your question?

When he answers it first at least.

[kphoger]

But why lock it?  It wasn't exactly getting out of hand.  Quite the opposite.

[tolbs17]

But why lock it?  It wasn't exactly getting out of hand.  Quite the opposite.

So I guess it's fine if it stays open

Well an angry rant would be "Why does I-85 look so dated?" or Why does the US-13/264ALT widening project look incomplete?

[snowc]

But why lock it?  It wasn't exactly getting out of hand.  Quite the opposite.

So I guess it's fine if it stays open

Well an angry rant would be "Why does I-85 look so dated?" or Why does the US-13/264ALT widening project look incomplete?

Oof...

[tolbs17]

https://connect.ncdot.gov/projects/planning/FeasibilityStudiesDocuments/Feasibility-Study_0707B_Report-2012.pdf

How are they going to build an interchange on I-40 with an apartment complex in the way?