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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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TCN7JM

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The StreetView is from 2008 (read: bad), but it appears that today I discovered a long-lost western segment of US 46 right here in South Dakota! This is supposed to be SD 46, and the StreetView date would suggest it's been wrong for years.
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corco

Quote from: Alps on March 03, 2015, 07:30:41 AM
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Quote from: Kacie Jane on March 03, 2015, 01:15:51 AM
One of the I-5/US 12 interchanges had a street blade on the overpass that says "SR 12".

Hmm. Perhaps more common than I thought. Can you think of any other mis-labels like this?
I've seen a ton of SR 99s...

what

Brandon

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This is an "only in NJ" moment.



Stop sign, "no stopping", and traffic signal – any two of those are contradictory.  And the stop sign is hinged...  Got an explanation for any of this?
My friend who live in the area told me that Sunday morning they flip the sign down, and there is a police officer directing traffic.

Good catch, this makes it a little less humorous, but, to me, I still got a kick out of it...

That wouldn't be bad in case of a power outage, either.

That's what I thought it was for, and some moron left the sign in the open position after the power came back on.

It's how we use similar stop signs here in Illinois.
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Eth

Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."

Maybe not in Washington. Some other places*, though...

* US 41 is also (signed) SR 19 south of Forsyth, though you can't see that here because Google

SD Mapman

Quote from: TCN7JM on March 04, 2015, 08:53:46 PM
The StreetView is from 2008 (read: bad), but it appears that today I discovered a long-lost western segment of US 46 right here in South Dakota! This is supposed to be SD 46, and the StreetView date would suggest it's been wrong for years.
There's also an eastern US 87 in Wind Cave National Park linky
The "385" shield is a bit wierd to just have by itself, too (look around).
The traveler sees what he sees, the tourist sees what he has come to see. - G.K. Chesterton

TCN7JM

Quote from: SD Mapman on March 04, 2015, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: TCN7JM on March 04, 2015, 08:53:46 PM
The StreetView is from 2008 (read: bad), but it appears that today I discovered a long-lost western segment of US 46 right here in South Dakota! This is supposed to be SD 46, and the StreetView date would suggest it's been wrong for years.
There's also an eastern US 87 in Wind Cave National Park linky
The "385" shield is a bit wierd to just have by itself, too (look around).
Damn, y'all have got newer StreetView than us. I guess the Google car drivers feel like taking a trip to Rushmore more often than they feel like visiting farmland in rural Lincoln County...
You don't realize how convenient gridded cities are until you move somewhere the roads are a mess.

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jakeroot

Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."

I concur, however, that doesn't change the erroneous nature of the sign.

SD Mapman

Quote from: TCN7JM on March 04, 2015, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 04, 2015, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: TCN7JM on March 04, 2015, 08:53:46 PM
The StreetView is from 2008 (read: bad), but it appears that today I discovered a long-lost western segment of US 46 right here in South Dakota! This is supposed to be SD 46, and the StreetView date would suggest it's been wrong for years.
There's also an eastern US 87 in Wind Cave National Park linky
The "385" shield is a bit weird to just have by itself, too (look around).
Damn, y'all have got newer StreetView than us. I guess the Google car drivers feel like taking a trip to Rushmore more often than they feel like visiting farmland in rural Lincoln County...
We also have these: link1 and link2
US 85 isn't even traveling west there! And also, that 14A sign is not on the route itself, but 10 feet off of it. Then again, signage is horribly bad along the Colorado stretch of 14A.
The traveler sees what he sees, the tourist sees what he has come to see. - G.K. Chesterton

kphoger

Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 11:57:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."

I concur, however, that doesn't change the erroneous nature of the sign.

Perhaps (as has been mentioned, it is SR-395 on paper).  But, more to the point, my post was in reply to–and quoted–the phrase "might be a bit misleading".
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Male pronouns, please.

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jakeroot

Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 11:57:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."

I concur, however, that doesn't change the erroneous nature of the sign.

Perhaps (as has been mentioned, it is SR-395 on paper).  But, more to the point, my post was in reply to–and quoted–the phrase "might be a bit misleading".

Touché.

KG909

Spotted today, should be I-215

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yakra

Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."
Texas.
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

kphoger

Quote from: yakra on March 09, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."
Texas.
Salamanders
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

roadman65

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.179722,-71.869766,3a,37.5y,55.49h,88.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shHYI3bW2F5bdL2sBcKRmIw!2e0
Here is one in Auburn, MA that shows US 20 as MA 20.  I know that most people in Massachusetts call all highways whether US or state as "Route" so it probably is nothing out of the ordinary in most minds, but realistically it is not a MA route designation.
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yakra

There are quite a few MA202 signs in the wild as well. Forget where I saw them; Westfield or maybe Holyoke. Too lazy to go GMSVing around for them.
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

PHLBOS

Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2015, 12:41:50 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.179722,-71.869766,3a,37.5y,55.49h,88.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shHYI3bW2F5bdL2sBcKRmIw!2e0
Here is one in Auburn, MA that shows US 20 as MA 20.  I know that most people in Massachusetts call all highways whether US or state as "Route" so it probably is nothing out of the ordinary in most minds, but realistically it is not a MA route designation.
Fortunately, that's only a temporary construction sign.  There have been similar MA 20 shield goofs on more permanent BGS' out there (and probably since noted on this thread several pages back).

Quote from: yakra on March 09, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
There are quite a few MA202 signs in the wild as well. Forget where I saw them; Westfield or maybe Holyoke. Too lazy to go GMSVing around for them.
Such were likely already commented on this thread (several pages back).
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dfwmapper

Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2015, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: yakra on March 09, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."
Texas.
Salamanders
It's a legitimate problem in Texas because FM/RM, state highway, loop/spur, US, and Interstate are all separate classes of roads that have duplicate numbers, occasionally with different roads of the same number in close proximity to each other.

Scott5114

Quote from: yakra on March 09, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."
Texas.
Or Oklahoma, for that matter, which designated OK 270 over an old alignment of US 270. So now there are two highways with the same number running parallel. (Although US 270 follows I-40 for most of this section).
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jakeroot

Quote from: dfwmapper on March 09, 2015, 08:00:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2015, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: yakra on March 09, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
A thought that will never happen: "Oh, look, here's highway 395, which is where I need to turn. Oh, crap, wait a minute, this road is STATE route 395 but I'm looking for U.S. 395, so I guess I'd better keep driving until I find my junction."

Texas.

Salamanders

It's a legitimate problem in Texas because FM/RM, state highway, loop/spur, US, and Interstate are all separate classes of roads that have duplicate numbers, occasionally with different roads of the same number in close proximity to each other.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 09, 2015, 08:04:13 PM
Or Oklahoma, for that matter, which designated OK 270 over an old alignment of US 270. So now there are two highways with the same number running parallel. (Although US 270 follows I-40 for most of this section).

In his defence, he was responding to my initial proposition that Washington drivers were going to be confused by the difference between US-395 and WA-395, and he is correct (for Washington) in that we aren't likely to confuse the two, since we don't use duplicate route numbers (for example, I-5 is legislated as SR-5, US-12 as SR-12, US-395 as SR-395, and so on). That's why, sometimes, we don't use the letter prefix when speaking about a highway (routes are often just the number).

kkt

Quote from: jakeroot on March 09, 2015, 11:45:22 PM
In his defence, he was responding to my initial proposition that Washington drivers were going to be confused by the difference between US-395 and WA-395, and he is correct (for Washington) in that we aren't likely to confuse the two, since we don't use duplicate route numbers (for example, I-5 is legislated as SR-5, US-12 as SR-12, US-395 as SR-395, and so on). That's why, sometimes, we don't use the letter prefix when speaking about a highway (routes are often just the number).

We would know that, but it would still be confusing to the average motorist who may have just moved here from Texas or just not been paying that much attention to route numbering.

jakeroot

Quote from: kkt on March 10, 2015, 12:28:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 09, 2015, 11:45:22 PM
In his defence, he was responding to my initial proposition that Washington drivers were going to be confused by the difference between US-395 and WA-395, and he is correct (for Washington) in that we aren't likely to confuse the two, since we don't use duplicate route numbers (for example, I-5 is legislated as SR-5, US-12 as SR-12, US-395 as SR-395, and so on). That's why, sometimes, we don't use the letter prefix when speaking about a highway (routes are often just the number).

We would know that, but it would still be confusing to the average motorist who may have just moved here from Texas or just not been paying that much attention to route numbering.

FWIW, I'm not promoting the usage of an incorrect prefix.

bzakharin

Worse are routes of the same number in the same state (the 600 series county routes in NJ). Most locals don't even know most of those numbers exist and when they are neutered on signs... well, wouldn't you expect someone to be able to go from https://www.google.com/maps/@39.848653,-75.17715,3a,75y,27.63h,88.59t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sNrJ5btUJMJsqnLH3wgtUNw!2e0!5m1!1e1 to https://www.google.com/maps/@39.975163,-75.026494,3a,75y,60.87h,103.82t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sEOlXEh7Ke-IeosPGahdH5g!2e0!5m1!1e1 via "route 644"?

roadman65


Directional shields off of Westbound I-10 Exit 266 in Louisiana that are reversed.  US 190 E Bound is to the left here while W Bound is to the right toward Slidell.

I heard that this assembly was corrected since I took the photo back in July of 10.
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Sheryl Crowe

freebrickproductions

Found this on Facebook.
This is in Tuscumbia, AL. US 20 should be AL 20.
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cl94

I don't know if anyone has a picture of it, but NYSTA recently installed a rare erroneous BGS west of Exit 59. The relatively-new EB 1 mile advance (in Clearview, of course) uses a US 60 shield for NY 60.
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