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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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SignGeek101

Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2015, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 09:58:39 PM
Going through some old photos and I found this.

Anyone notice the 'TO' has the 'O' as a lowercase? It looks like it could be Clearview as well, but can't tell.

I think both characters are caps, but the "T" is just larger per MUTCD rules, which require larger initial caps.

I don't think it's Clearview, but both the "T" and "O" are hard to distinguish by themselves, so I couldn't be sure.

Initial caps for 'TO' as well? I thought that was just for cardinal directions (NORTH)


Big John

Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2015, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 09:58:39 PM
Going through some old photos and I found this.

Anyone notice the 'TO' has the 'O' as a lowercase? It looks like it could be Clearview as well, but can't tell.

I think both characters are caps, but the "T" is just larger per MUTCD rules, which require larger initial caps.

I don't think it's Clearview, but both the "T" and "O" are hard to distinguish by themselves, so I couldn't be sure.

Initial caps for 'TO' as well? I thought that was just for cardinal directions (NORTH)

Just for cardinal directions: http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2d_04_longdesc.htm

jakeroot

Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2015, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 09:58:39 PM
Going through some old photos and I found this.

Anyone notice the 'TO' has the 'O' as a lowercase? It looks like it could be Clearview as well, but can't tell.

I think both characters are caps, but the "T" is just larger per MUTCD rules, which require larger initial caps.

I don't think it's Clearview, but both the "T" and "O" are hard to distinguish by themselves, so I couldn't be sure.

Initial caps for 'TO' as well? I thought that was just for cardinal directions (NORTH)

Just for cardinal directions: http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2d_04_longdesc.htm

Seems like it would be a common error. I've seen larger T's on many occasions.

hbelkins

Virginia really seems to like using the larger "T" in "To" banners.

After seeing the new Street View image someone posted, I tend to believe the fading/peeling on my photo was caused by a fire. Come to think of it, I believe I thought when I passed that area that it looked like there'd been a forest fire or grass fire.


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Mapmikey

Quote from: hbelkins on November 13, 2015, 10:43:56 PM
Virginia really seems to like using the larger "T" in "To" banners.

After seeing the new Street View image someone posted, I tend to believe the fading/peeling on my photo was caused by a fire. Come to think of it, I believe I thought when I passed that area that it looked like there'd been a forest fire or grass fire.

Here is a fuzzy view of what it looked like in 2006 before the fire...


roadman65

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/23075607041/in/dateposted-public/

The above one is totally incorrect about the "Racetrack" as the NJ Turnpike does not go there.  In fact to put a VMS for any of the attractions at the Sports Complex via the NJ Turnpike is erroneous. 

I do know that there is a second entrance to the Complex about a quarter mile beyond the NJT, but that is not what the sign says even with the follow up signage ahead.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

odditude

Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2015, 12:44:21 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/23075607041/in/dateposted-public/

The above one is totally incorrect about the "Racetrack" as the NJ Turnpike does not go there.  In fact to put a VMS for any of the attractions at the Sports Complex via the NJ Turnpike is erroneous. 

I do know that there is a second entrance to the Complex about a quarter mile beyond the NJT, but that is not what the sign says even with the follow up signage ahead.
it's not saying to use the Turnpike; it's saying to use that lane. a driver paying attention to the VMSs will not have an issue.

okroads

I noticed a couple of sign goofs from an August trip I took to Kansas:

DSC05909 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

This is on Interstate 135 & U.S. 81 North not South as signed here.

DSC05917 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

This is at the end of the Exit 82 off-ramp from Interstate 135/U.S. 81 North & K-4 East. K-4 is actually to the right and not to the left.

Mr. Matté


jakeroot

Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

MarkF

For a construction detour sign, CA 55 was mis-signed as US 55:

End of the 1st Street exit from southbound I-5 in Santa Ana.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

That STOP marking seems fairly freshly painted, and the traffic light poles and assemblies seem to be fairly old!

davewiecking

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 22, 2015, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

That STOP marking seems fairly freshly painted, and the traffic light poles and assemblies seem to be fairly old!

I have a hard time believing that a STOP bar for a stop sign would be that far back from the intersection-zero visibility to the left. I think it's trying to reinforce that if traffic doesn't stop back far enough, cars (trucks, busses) turning left onto this road will have difficulty fitting through.

Big John

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 22, 2015, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

That STOP marking seems fairly freshly painted, and the traffic light poles and assemblies seem to be fairly old!
That is from the 2007 view.  Newer photos show the stop bar repainted but the stop text faded as that was not repainted.

Mr. Matté

#3540
Quote from: Big John on November 22, 2015, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 22, 2015, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

That STOP marking seems fairly freshly painted, and the traffic light poles and assemblies seem to be fairly old!
That is from the 2007 view.  Newer photos show the stop bar repainted but the stop text faded as that was not repainted.

The 2013 Streetview does show it faded (didn't want to use it because of the car over it), but it has been replaced recently, at least as of yesterday. I took this poorly-angled photo showing that it's been replaced with a thermoplastic STOP: http://i.imgur.com/wFpji77.jpg

EDIT: And apparently, it was really recently as the July 2015 GSV along Washington Road shows the faded marking.

jakeroot

Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 22, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 22, 2015, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 22, 2015, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

That STOP marking seems fairly freshly painted, and the traffic light poles and assemblies seem to be fairly old!
That is from the 2007 view.  Newer photos show the stop bar repainted but the stop text faded as that was not repainted.

The 2013 Streetview does show it faded (didn't want to use it because of the car over it), but it has been replaced recently, at least as of yesterday. I took this poorly-angled photo showing that it's been replaced with a thermoplastic STOP: http://i.imgur.com/wFpji77.jpg

Interesting. Then, the only thing I can reasonably decide is that Sayreville is misusing the pavement "STOP" markings for stop line markings (by this, I mean they are misinterpreting the point of such markings).

PurdueBill

Fairlawn, Ohio this past week replaced all the signage on its stretch of Market St/OH 18 (including some signs that were only a year old, but they got $$ from ODOT for the project in part, apparently) and perfectly good OH 18 shields were replaced with this:



They appear eastbound and westbound, independent on a post and above other signs as pictured.

In a separate thread (probably Good, Bad, and Ugly) I'll share an interesting piece of awesome that appeared in the past week as part of the project....

jeffandnicole

Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 22, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 22, 2015, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 22, 2015, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Almost certainly left over from a previous configuration, though I could be wrong.

That STOP marking seems fairly freshly painted, and the traffic light poles and assemblies seem to be fairly old!
That is from the 2007 view.  Newer photos show the stop bar repainted but the stop text faded as that was not repainted.

The 2013 Streetview does show it faded (didn't want to use it because of the car over it), but it has been replaced recently, at least as of yesterday. I took this poorly-angled photo showing that it's been replaced with a thermoplastic STOP: http://i.imgur.com/wFpji77.jpg

Interesting. Then, the only thing I can reasonably decide is that Sayreville is misusing the pavement "STOP" markings for stop line markings (by this, I mean they are misinterpreting the point of such markings).

It's a county intersection, so the county would have jurisdiction here.  Although I wouldn't think they would do something like this.

freebrickproductions

This error in Tuscumbia, AL still stands:
Spot the Error by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
It's all fun & games until someone summons Cthulhu and brings about the end of the world.

I also collect traffic lights, road signs, fans, and railroad crossing equipment.

(They/Them)

Big John

^^ US 20 does not enter Alabama.

jakeroot

Not sure if this is genuinely erroneous yet, though I suspect it will be replaced soon. That's clearly a doghouse, unless Sumner (WA) has plans to make this an FYA-doghouse hybrid (as seen in Wisconsin?):


jakeroot

Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 21, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
More of erroneous markings but I've never seen a stop bar with a "STOP" marking at a traffic light until I passed this one today: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4605345,-74.3380201,3a,75y,354.88h,68.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLH4N_4DcC3sFlAuM5CdmkA!2e0!5s20070801T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US

Here's another variation of that, except at a much wider intersection. This example is in Renton, Washington, near the Boeing 737 plant. Doubt this was ever a stop-controlled intersection, given how wide it is:


roadman65

#3548
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5319482,-74.2974203,3a,75y,20.91h,68.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sILD1U5fFW8A33HQZE8GDdQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656  The "Outerbridge" is supposed to be Outerbridge Crossing. 

Yeah, I know its short form on a sign with two other control points, but considering its not its proper name and that NJDOT always gets it right with "Outerbridge Crossing." Here they are merely treating the "bridge" as the type of crossing even though Outerbridge is one word named after a proper person.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5378294,-74.2955881,3a,75y,273.38h,88.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s__ifUIiP0eplvSjGk2HA9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Same interchange different side, but this ramp actually leads to NJ 184 as it terminates at the Garden State Parkway.  So signing it is an error.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

roadman65



This one was taken in 08, and any good road geek should know by looking at the sign what is erroneous about it.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe



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